₦airaland Forum

ifeness: My question to you mr know it all; Repent from what exactly?

my good mann, I have to commend u for answering these christians very well, people like u make me proud of being a freethinker.

Seun: What would you like me to do about it?


So many good people have commented on this thread. Deleting it completely is equivalent to slapping every one of them in the face. I can't possibly do that. By the way, We absolutely do not hide threads where politicians are abused. If any moderator is doing that, it's contrary to my explicit directives. You should report such cases to me so I can correct them. I think that any true religion can stand against criticism. The things being said here are not worse than what the Pharisees said to Jesus after all, and yet he prevailed. God doesn't need to be protected by us.

thanks for your input mr seun nairaland, I would like to make something clear that I did not create this topic to insult or belittle anybody or any religion,

as a freethinker we are given to moments of critical thinking, and I thought about the topic and decided to throw the question to the house, but unfortunately some of the christian folks see it as a deliberate ploy to foil their religion,

But they should understand that if their religion is indeed true, nothing I say here will change that fact, but instead they are fighting on behalf of their God. Calling me all sorts of names and wishing me death, but I'm not surprised though.

HmMmmm, I took my time in reading your comments and contributions to this "trend" (lol, like someone mentioned, trend, funny innit) and I appreciate everybody who has been engaged in this discussion,

I want to appreciate all my freethinkers, who have been replying on my behalf, u guys rock, and I also want to thank the christian folk who wish sincerely from their heart. For me to become blind like them, (although it's not their fault cos they don't know they're blind) thanks for your concern towards my soul.

And for all the foolish, bigoted idiot christians who have been wishing death upon me, for trying to explain the fable of jesus christ to u, u guys all are all a huge piece of shi.t, your hearts are full of hatred, and u would want anybody who doesn't believe in ur faith to burn in your imaginary lake of fire, but I have bad news for u, u'll be disappointed by the end of the day, u guys are so far gone.

yuzedo: Almost legit bro, but i thought Lucifer means "Son of the Morning"??

Still doesn't address the itsy-bitsy part about God's omniscience... If you knew shittt was gon get fuckedddd up by a nigga, why create him?

If you knew destroying Sodom and Gomorrah wasn't gonna solve the gay scourge, why destroy it?

If you knew destroying the WHOLE EARTH during Noahs time with water wasn't gonna rid the world of sin, why do it?

Does God know what He is doing or he just does trial and error and depends on contingency plans? Man, the bible doesn't sell itself convincingly to people who are willing to go beyond just accepting things blindly without testing. "FAITH" IS NOT ENOUGH!

lol, nigga u're making smile from ear to ear mann, keep em coming.

Must christians resort to name calling and insults when faced with pertinent questions about their faith?

manny4life: Your interpretation is awesome, GO BACK AND READ YOUR SAME CHAPTER, then rephrase your question. Our GOD DID NOT CREATE EVIL, Bible said he created all things in six days and rested on the seventh day. Evil came into this world from Lucifer after he was cast down, however, GOD is only speaking about his supremacy over evil. He created the Heavens and the Earth where Evil resides, so he controls it all.

sometimes I wonder to myself why most christians are so dumb, he did'nt create evil, but he created lucifer, and evil came from lucifer, so who does everything point back to?

obadiah777: ISAIAH 45 VS 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

mr reincarnation, I no understand u ooo, I no go lie, u be christian abi u won form ur own religion using the bible,

musKeeto: FOOOOLLL
There's more to life than Christianity and Islam.


And btw, Muslims also respect Jesus as a prophet. A Muslim would be going against Islam if he ever created this thread.

lol, pls help me tell him jare, most christians think that the world revolves around dem, I pity them sometimes, deluding themselves.

dulphines: Please, to start with it is Jesus not jesus. If you are not a Christain or have belief in Christainity, why don't you keep mute rather than write all these are incure the wrath of God. May God forgive you your sins, wash away your inequities and bring you to life everlasting through Jesus Christ our Lord, amen.

u people with talk about the wrath of God and dis and dat, why has'nt the wrath of God fallen on all the evil leaders in this country who are making christian Nigerians go tru hell, or why has'nt the wrath of God fallen on the many voodoo pastors who perform miracles in the name of ur God, he should take care of the meSsed up situations he created before visiting his wrath on me, lol

manny4life: My own understanding of the Bible, GOD NEVER CREATED EVIL. Yall should get it straight.

well in the bible, Isaiah 45 v 7, the biblical God is heard saying that he created evil, read it up and see for urself,

obadiah777: ITS A GOOD QUESTION. IN SO MANY OCCASIONS IN THE BIBLE 'KILLED' MEANS TO 'MAKE SOMEONE IRRELEVANT'.

so how do we know the instances where killed means making some one irrelevant in the bible? Give us examples.

damosky12: Shuo! am not trying to make sence. It just seems you prefer ignorance to knowledge. You need to see signs and wonders through His name before beliving?

well since u guys claim to know everything, I would like to know why ur God created evil in the first place?

obadiah777: YEZZUR I AM UBIQUITOUS

so do u believe that jesus was killed literally or is the story an esoteric one?

obadiah777: WAS A BIG DEAL IN WHAT IT ACCOMPLISHED. IT RE-UNITED A FALLEN WORLD BACK TO GOD

mr reincarnation I see u've found your way here, lol

damosky12: look friend. Jesus was not a man, He was 'God Himself' who came in form of a man(John 1:1), He carried the life spirit of God because He was born of that spirit and not a man's spermatozua; that is why He was called Emmanuel meaning God (himself) with us (in form of man). He wasnt born of any man (remember it was the the the prencense of God who over shadowed a holy virgin to bear Him), so he was not a normal being neither was he a sinner genetically because he wasnt born by a man's sperm remember, man is a sinner by nature of Adam. Jesus was not a product of Adam!! HE WAS HOLY IN NATURE AND IN DEED. HE NEVER SINNED AND WAS'NT BORN A SINNER LIKE ALL MEN!! The reason why the sacrifice is esteemed is because of.

1)God's love for man for Jesus to die in the place of sinfull sinners when He himself never sinned. (1Corinth 5:21)

2)He himself was the creator of men. Bible says "...and without Him was not anything made that was made"-JOHN 1:3. He was the one who could die to bear the sins of all men because he made them and remember He could have chosen not to die and kill all men, creating a new set of Men. He chose not "for God SO LOVED the world" this world.


3) A man who hated sin was made to carry it in bulk upon himself, that was why He was praying to God. He wasnt afraid of the death but never wanted to be a sinner for once because He had to carry the sins of the whole world (alive, dead and unborn) upon himself even though He never sinned!

no matter how much u try to make sense from this fable u can never make anything sensible from it.

.

ednut1: hahahahahaha yeah paid a price to himself how cheesy, mumu folks

lol, yes boss, these folks are something else.

braine: I love good thinkers. I love this thread.

big ups to u my good maNn,

musKeeto: The real sacrifice was not in his death... But the shame.. a god becoming a man and subjecting himself to the torments that exist in this evil world..

At least, that's what the apologetics would have us believe....

one thing I know is that christians can never be able to give a reasonable explanation for the alleged death of their savior, cos like they claim jesus was the sacrificial lamb who paid a price to redeem mankind,

but that brings a whole new perspective to the whole story, who was the price paid to? Was it the devil? Or he paid the price to himself? If the price was paid to the devil that goes to show that the devil is more powerful than God/jesus, if the price was paid to God/jesus then that also goes to show us how blood thirsty he is, either way this story is all bull.shyte,

ninja4life: [
100000000 likes.lol at
100000000 likes.lol at begging himself in heaven not to allow d cruxifiction to happen like seriously let those trinitians to come and explain.u made good points about those african slaves most esp those born into slavery forced to work in plantation with their mouth locked for decades under whips and molestation imagine comparing wat those people suffered to wat d imaginary jesus suffered for JUST A DAY with wat those slaves suffered for DECADES and some are killed unjustly and dis is happening under d watch of d almighty God who loves everybody but cant save d africans.dats pure rubbish anyway i need a BLACK JESUS

thanks my good man, christians really need to have a rethink about everything, lol, tupac claimed to be the former black jesus, but now I think it's rapper, the game, he is the current black jesus, lol.

It's a question that should be answered with utmost sincerity, with all honesty and with no religious bias (but I doubt my christian folks will be able to do that).

But let's examine the death of jesus, christians from time immemorial have given us the illusion that it was the greatest and noblest thing any man or God could have done for his people, by paying the ultimate price, ( giving up his life),

But I chose to disagree, in the case of jesus, he is said to be God, and he created all things, having this knowledge how would coming to earth and dying and going back to splendor a big deal? I know of people who have gone through a lot worse for no reward at all, not to talk about jesus, who is supposed to be the beginning and the end, this should have been like a walk in the park for him.

But it was'nt, even knowing fully well that he was going to rise up again and be praised in heaven and on earth for all eternity, he was still scared, begging himself in heaven not to allow the whole thing happen.

Personally I would go through all jesus went through just to be given one billion dollars, I know of people who would go through same tin or even worse for less, did jesus suffer more than the slaves in america? Or did he suffer more than the people who were tortured and beaten to death, in places like cambodia, uganda, rwanda etc, the answer is No, so christians should stop saying how difficult it was for jesus to lay his life down for sinners.

Freiburger: Hello posters, try to post on topic and your posts wont be hidden
Thanks.

*singing in bob marley's voice*, we want equal rights and justice. Bros no be so oooo.

Vanity upon vanity all is vanity so sayeth the bible, this is vanity,

Why are the moderators hiding the posts on this thread.

Hahahaha, great story.

tobechi74: the idea of not going to hospital is rubish.

God could heal through drugs, trough pastors,through herb etc

science isnt a waste of time she has a role to play physicaly. Religion plays a role spiritual.ly. Problem is when religon doesnt stick with spiritùal and start interfering in footbal, politics etc. Problem is when science interfers with religion, wana prove God, devil etc

God lays the foundation we use it our way. I can decide to use my intelligence to dupe my brother, yahoo yahoo. I may use it to teach my younga one or to find cure for aids. Its my choice. Blame me not God

let me ask u a simple question, if an adult places a knife on the table and tells the child that the knife can be used for killing people or cutting yam to prepare food, and the child takes up the knife and goes on a killing spree, who should be held accountable for the actions of the child?

Bidam: HOW CAN YOU UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURES WHEN YOU ARE BLINDED BY SATAN.

The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.2 Corinthians 4:4

why are christians like these, u are all seeing the obvious flaws and errancies in the bible and u're saying somebody is being blinded by satan, the reverse should be the case, u guys are the one that are being blinded by satan,

Let me reserve this space.