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NotProphet:
He would have said I'm working for Nigeria not for Tinubu

There's realistically no difference between both.
He's working for Nigeria under the employ or appointment of Tinubu. If he hadn't gotten the ministerial nomination by Tinubu, he wouldn't even be a Minister to be able to render the services of that office to the Nigerian people. So he's working for Tinubu as well as the Nigerian people.

plaindealer:
You don't get to ask me to ignore my point just because of whatever point you are trying to prove, you are free to debate that with yourself or other people.

My issue is the OP's ignorance, lies, deception and bait and switch crookedness.

The title is different from the story and content.

Smh.

limitless777:
Guy stop deceiving people here abeg.
200 day old chicks for 74k?
HABA!!!

A chic as at last week was N250. The highest in three months. Three weeks and back a chick was just N200.

Na wah O. 🚶🏼‍♂️ 🚶🏼‍♂️ 🚶🏼‍♂️

😂😂.

I deliberately ignored that part of his write-up. That guy has passion for the poultry lifestyle and it's admirable. But this his thread is rife with so much falsehood and inaccurate data.

By his submission, if he bought 4 cartons of Agrited chics at 74K, then each carton cost him 18,500 naira. Even if his home is just outside the Agrited hatchery in Ibadan, it is realistically impossible for him to have gotten their chics at that price. The last time Agrited sold between 17K and 19K was sometime in December 2021.

So he either has to tell us what magic he used to buy 4 cartons of day old Agriteds at 74K, or be honest enough to stop deceiving the public with falsified figures.

GorillaApp:
The law and process for this thing too much. I can't keep up 😂

Lol.
It's not that hectic. You can keep up, quite easily even. All it takes is one breeding circle and you'll get the hang of it, so long you pay attention and are committed to it.

costandi:
Bold faced lie. Obi moved to PDP in 2014 and was appointed by GEJ 2015.

Throwback:

- Governor Peter Obi doubled as the honorary Special Adviser on Finance to President Goodluck Jonathan until May, 2015.

- Governor Peter Obi was also a member in the Presidential Economic Management team under President Goodluck Jonathan until May, 2015.

And he held those positions for years before he decamped to the PDP between September and October of 2014.

So, where is the bold-faced lie?

nairalanda1:
Okay, enjoy your coup.

N.B...You don't have to agree with me, neither do I expect you to.

N.B 2. I stand by all that I wrote, and yes, I believe that democracy in Nigeria is not fit for order. But millitary rule was much worse.

N,.B 3. And as for you, if you want change, get up and BE THE CHANGE. Take your anger, form a party, join a party, work within the system, and change it for the better. YOU CAN DO IT.

In days past, I had engaged you on certain issues of national relevance, one of them being our very flawed subsidy initiative prior to its removal and in the early days that followed the infamous decision to remove it.

There is no arguing your commendable intelligence and confidence to exhibit same, but you have nonetheless, proven to be in the moulds of young men who are fixated on their knowledge, are too sublimely arrogant to give room for corrections and most certainly believe your opinions should be "ye and amen"! You remind me of this Garfield fellow here on nairaland.

- I cannot agree with you for suggesting that Cameroonians are responsible for their current existential woes as regards awful democratic leadership.

- Whatever brings the Nigerian issue into this discourse has to be a cause for concern, as nothing explains why you're mixing two seperate issues in one discourse and failing to sample a connection between both.

- Again, the issue isn't about me or the Nigerian people, but Cameroon and her leadership/citizens. It is wrong for you to "assume" Cameroonians have not made practical efforts to get involved in their own politics with attempts to float political parties and be active members of same. What do you even think is the fundamental reason behind the civil war that has existed for years now between the Anglophone and Francophone regions of the country? You think they're struggling lands or killing themselves over women?

You insult the sensibilities of a people under subjugation and pain when you make unguarded, uninformed and insensitive comments such as you've done on this thread.

nairalanda1:
Coup will not help Cameroon. It would be good if Biya got kicked out , very good, but replacing him with sit tight army rulers won't help much.

Plus Biya is there because the Cameroonian opposition is divided, and because most Cameroonians do not want to take a risk and participate in democracy.

Many of you supporting coups think that developed countries got developed because of some great leader taking over. They did not. They got developed by people using the democratic system to effect change, EVEN when that democratic system was angled against them, and it seemed at first that nothing would change.

Army rule did not help Central African Republic, Chad is a family run business since the 1991 coup, and now Gabon, and even Congo PR is run by a former coupist, turned civillian.

You guys , both you and your tinubu supporting friends, get out and join a party, and work for change within the system. Democracy is common household sewage and trash, but the alternatives are radioactive nuclear waste. You can at least wash off common trash.

With all due respect, this your submission is nonsensical to the very last alphabet.

You cannot sit in the comfort of your home and feel you know enough to have a modest opinion on every issue. Just reading through these words goes to show that you're very un-informed about the goings-on in the political landscape of the Cameroonian society. Most Cameroonians do not take the risk of participating in their politics? I sincerely want to believe this was meant to amuse the audience rather than inform. Please be mindful of the kind of opinions you publicly posit on sensitive issues.

AllenSpencer:
With the whole intellectual capacity of Ogun and Osun, both states are usually blessed and gifted, with the worst sets leaders.

Even the same Adebutu that happens to be criticizing, has practically nothing to offer.

Seems the intellects have deserted Ogun and Osun!

Imagine an illiterate ruling over the great Osun state. It’s really sad.

Are you insinuating that Ademola Nurudeen Adeleke is an illiterate?

To this day, it remains a subject of awe, how Dapo Abiodun managed to find legitimacy enough to be the Governor of Ogun State of Nigeria, having been convicted of credit card fraud in the not-too-distant past.

Nigeria is a really sad excuse of a democratic country!

Silentgroper:
you must be new on here..



She/it isn't 5he first

Lol.
Did you say "she/it"?
I'm enthused as to your choice of pronouns.

God will punish Ben Ayade wherever he is and wherever he goes! His generations unborn will know no peace!

That stunted clown didn't start and complete one single stretch of road in Cross River State, spent 8years erecting one substandard flyover at Odukpani junction which he didn't even finish, left months of unpaid salaries, pensions and gratuities, only to raise the debt profile of the state by over 120percent while El-rufai of Kaduna spent the same governance period completely transforming Kaduna city into what it is today, yet the state's debt profile isn't even up to half of Cross River's.

Benedict Bengioushuye Ayade is not going to die pleasantly in this life or the next!

Not bad.
I currently speak Lokaa, English, Spanish, bit of French and learning the sign language.

Looks like I have to learn more, going forward.

Broveens42:
Coming from someone who didn't watch the match.
Chelsea rivals are really scared because they can't fathom a resurgence of a team who sold close to 11 ucl title winning squad.

It will be difficult to beat Chelsea in any epl game from match day 4

Make Westham no hear you sha!

donjazzet:
A murderous dictator just murdered his opponent in broad daylight, killing 8 more innocent people with the target and these fools are still arguing whether he's a dictator or not.

Who is fooling who? How long do you plan to lie to yourselves that you're not supporting evil??

Prighrozin was a man you all admired and Putin just had him killed like a dog and you retards can't even say anything but to run up and down deceiving yourselves.

These are some of the most high profile victims of Putin's murder rage. The trappings of a brutal dictator. Something that the west cam never do, murder a political opponent.

Can you ever address issues without calling people names? You're a very disturbed young man.

Abbeytoy:
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What's standard practice required

Brooding lasts between 7 to 10 days. Once the first vaccination is done, chics can be relocated to the permanent pen.

OgogoroFreak:
He stated his own practice that worked for him step by step.

He did. Which was fine. Until people started to ask questions to know more, and his subsequent responses prompted readers like me and a few others to begin putting in corrective statements. It is supposed to be an interactive thread. And you might argue that poultry farming is done according to the discretion of the farmer, but you cannot negate what has long been standard practices.

I know a farmer who doesn't use veterinary medications from week 3. He has his organic combinations of herbs, leaves and certain seeds/fruits that he blends and administers to fight poultry ailments, and it works for him. Doesn't mean he has to put that up in a public conversation forum as a standard farming practice.

Personally, I don't even use manufactured medications to combat fowl typhoid or manage newscastle disease. I have tested and proven remedies that I cannot pass off as standard practices.

Hope you dig??

limitless777:
What of Y2Farm?
It's been a sad story 😞 from some people who patronise them, according to.

Never patronised Y2farms, so I can't give any recommendations or observations in that regard.

OgogoroFreak:
If he brood for 4 weeks and still makes good profit, how is that a problem for you?

When you're giving the public a step-by-step approach towards actualizing any initiative, you have to differentiate between standard practices and personal specifications. That's the mistake he's making that has to be corrected.

Standard practice does not put brooding at 3 to 4 weeks. That's his personal approach to brooding and he has to specify that to the audience.

UmehzEmmanuel:
You're right.
Though I prefer New Hope to Chikun.

Never heard of the New Hope feed before, but I'll research on it and probably use it subsequently, if it's up to standard.

SaLongs1:
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You should actually be the one to calm down and read.

Someone asked you how long you raise broilers before they're ready for sale, and you said 3 to 4 months. And I'm letting you know again, that no commercial poultry farmer raises broilers beyond 7 to 8weeks. At that point, they should be very ready for sales. His, probably got stunted.

That's most likely the case.

coldzobo:
Says who
it seems like youre a trouble maker. I wont reply you again

Oga, I don't know how and where you're seeing trouble in my responses. Like others, I'm following your updates and chipping in corrections where necessary, but you seem to have problems with being corrected.

There's nowhere poultry brooding is done for 3 to 4 weeks. NOWHERE! Not even in the US.

coldzobo:
Calm down and read. We are selling them after 4 weeks. We are not rearing them for Christmas

You should actually be the one to calm down and read.

Someone asked you how long you raise broilers before they're ready for sale, and you said 3 to 4 months. And I'm letting you know again, that no commercial poultry farmer raises broilers beyond 7 to 8weeks. At that point, they should be very ready for sales.

coldzobo:
Consumable size in six weeks ? That is not proper. Brooding alone is 3-4 weeks

The moment your newspapers or carton litter materials are replaced with wood dust and your birds moved to larger spaces, you're done with brooding. And no professional commercial poultry farmer broods for more than 10 days.

That guy was right. Broilers should be ready for sale from 7 weeks.

successmatters:
Take it easy boy, so, is tinubu still working for APC, or for himself?

You're asking questions that are running foul of the issue in discourse. This thread is solely about Wike and where his allegiances lie. But to answer your question, Tinubu at this point is working for Nigerians, having been (s)elected on the platform of the APC. He's neither working for himself nor his party. He represents his party, but serves Nigerians.

And please don't call me "boy" in your subsequent submissions. Accord me what respect I do you.

Xkale1996:
why do use newspaper to cover the floor

Same reason you put socks on the feet and mittens on the hands of babies. Prevent them from cold and germs.

zhirkovrado:
Man the agrited we once knew is not what we have now. My aunt brood them the last time and we saw too many variable growths, it may look normal but it's not so. Some where sold but there are still some we are feeding uptill date cos they were like having stunted growth. We went out to observe and realized it was same with other farmers of the product. We realized not all the hybrids are the same. Besides I knew Olam right from the time I graduated from secondary school. I was even a sales boy to a vet dealing strictly with Olam products and the customers testimonies were highly positive. That's why I opted for them. Mind you it's my first time of doing it practically ever since then. Meanwhile my aunt is a pro in the system.

Points duly noted.
Quick question though: does your aunt buy her Agrited chics by herself from the hatchery in Ibadan, or does she order her purchase through a high-end agent/distributor?

coldzobo:
3-4 months depending on how big you want them to be

Properly raised broilers should be ready for sale from exactly 8 weeks, that's about 2 months. If over 60percent of your 200 broilers do not weigh 2.8kg upwards at week 8, then your practices were wrong. No commercial poultry farmer keeps broilers for more than 10 weeks, not to talk of 3 months.

successmatters:
And when he started working for Jonathan, Jonathan moved to APGA?

What are you saying?

GEJ of PDP appointed Obi of APGA. Why would GEJ be moving to APGA? And in this scenario, has any of Wike or Tinubu remotely suggested moving over to each other's party?

zhirkovrado:
My chicks are from Olam(Chikum) and their feeds also Chikum. Still less than two weeks old but bigger than your above chicks. I'm not capping, just an update I'm not trying to advertise any company but try Olam(Chikum) products next time and the results will speak for you. Also feeds are really costly now so try going for the quantity of chicks you can afford to feed at a time to avoid stories that touches the heart.

Agrited chics are way better than Olam. If you're having good sizes, it's all down to your feeding commitment and level of attention. Chikun makes good feed, but they don't hatch quality chics.

- Putting feed on the bare litter material for day old chics to "snack" on was and is a poultry practice that defies logic. If those birds were not properly vaccinated from the hatchery, you'd have had more deaths for that very mistake.

- Tray feeders are no longer advisable for brooding. The idea of chics stooling in their feed and pecking in it, is partly responsible for early coccidiosis. There are modified chic feeders that are price friendly.

- Even if electricity cannot be afforded, kerosene lamps are bad for chics. They're very contributory to Chronic respiratory disease. Small solar lights are serving that purpose now.

- You're wasting medications with the amount of water you're using for your brooding. One drinker of water is enough to meet any round of watering for all 200 chics. A tablespoon of medicine in a drinker, stirred, then shared into other drinkers can serve the purpose, since the water gets replaced three times daily.

- Your vaccination process is a bit worrisome, especially looking at that black container you're mixing it in, which is the same you use to wash drinkers. You're setting yourself up for fowl typhoid, and believe me, that's one illness that 80percent of inorganic veterinary medicines cannot treat.

- Agreeably, heat is important to regulate their temperature, but be certain to properly ventilate that brooding pen whenever the sun starts to come up. Circulation of that "smokey" heat not only causes CRD, but hampers proper growth.