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vertueptime:
Yh some truely need it, but not on NL,hw can someone with a browsing fone with data come online and be begging for food? Unless we are all stupid

Baba, its either u r young or u don't have experience.
One can browse and send pls help me on nl with just #10 credit on his ,#5,000 phone. If u r suggesting he sells the phone to eat, then sorry, u r chatting with a wrong person.
Safe bro!

nobilis:
Okay.
Let me educate you a little, if you will allow yourself to be open minded on this issue.
This is not an issue that we should just sit behind our internet-enabled device and be issuing condemnations anyhow.
At least, before you condemn something, try to understand it.
So let's examine some facts.

Traditionally, before the coming of the colonial masters, there is no culture in Africa that castigated homosexuality. You can check. You can ask questions. Do your research. If your grandfather or great grandfather is alive, you can go and ask him. If there is any person well versed in oral tradition and history in your place, go and ask the person.

African pre-colonial communities had this culture of "live and let live".
As long as the way you were living your life was not infringing on the rights of another person, as long as it doesn't constitute public displays of things that should be kept private, nobody disturbs you, nobody bothers you.
I'm not making this up.
You can ask.

In pre-colonial African communities, there were men who were known to be effeminate and were known to be girly. In some communities, it was reported that these men were also having sex with fellow men. They were still considered part of the community and not banished. There were women who were known to be masculine and manly. There were also individuals in communities who chose not to get married. These people were active and functional members of the community and they were not ostracized.
These are verifiable facts.
Ask around.

The first laws against homosexuality that came into existence in Africa, came with the coming of the white man.
There were no such laws before the white man came.
Now, come to think of it.
It is only when something is existent that you make a law against it.
For example, if you go to a place where they don't know what stealing is, it will be foolish to make any laws there against stealing.
Why?
Because the people there don't know anything about stealing. So the law you make against stealing will be useless.
It's the same thing in this situation.
The white man came with the Bible, saw the prevalence of homosexual behaviors in our communities, they saw that that behavior was countered by their bible and then they made laws against it.
So that is how how legislations against homosexuality in Africa came about.
There was no such laws before the white man.

Following up to the question I asked you earlier, since you said it is a societal problem, condemning it and discouraging it will not make it stop. It has been done several times. People have been killed for it. Yet, you can't stop it.

Apart from religious statutes, there is nothing again anybody has against homosexuality.
Let's assume for the sake of argument that we adhere to the religious principles.
We all know that not everybody in Nigeria is either a Christian or a Muslim.
So does that mean you will use Christian or Islamic standards to make rules that are binding on everybody?
That will be very very wrong and that is why our 1999 constitution is a mess because most of its laws are based on Islamic principles.
And this is the particular reason why countries with heterogeneous groups of people, as in the case of Nigeria, should be secular and not religious.
You don't make laws with religion as the basis.

And if you even choose to hold onto religion. There are several things that religion condemns that people do.
There is no legislation in Nigeria against premarital sex. There is no legislation against child marriages. There is no legislation against adultery. There is no legislation against pornography. Yet all these were condemned in the Bible. But yet we celebrate all these things.
Do you feel that if you don't condemn all these ones and then just choose to condemn homosexuality that God will be very happy with you?
If you see homosexuality as a sin, then even the Bible said that if you a guilty of breaking one part of the law, then you are guilty of breaking all of the law.

Homosexuality used to be seen as a mental disorder in the West before.
They reported how it led people to depression and how it led people to suicide and all of that.
But with time, they began to see a different perspective.
They learnt that it only led people to suicide because with all the legislations they had in place against homosexuality, gay people were feeling depressed and hopeless. They felt like outcasts and felt like they couldn't find their place in the world.
Gradually, as they phased out those legislations, the rate of suicide and depression among gays reduced.
There are studies that show this.
You can check it.

There are several countries of the world where there is some liberalism towards gay people.
Go and check the indices of those countries: economic, health, and so on.
Check their indices and you will see that that they are still progressing and their citizens are living better lives than us.
Then ask yourself, why is it that it is those countries that are intensely religious and have legislations against homosexuality just because they feel they are doing God a favour, why is it that it is those religious countries that have the poorest citizens in the world and have the poorest standard of living for their citizens.

I have tried to reason with you on this issue.
I expect you to go through this post with an open mind and do your own research with an open without prejudice against homosexuality. Just for a moment, forget about how much you hate homosexuality and do the researches I suggested. After you have done so, then tell me what you came up with.
If you actually do this, it will be a triumph for common sense.
But if you choose not do as I suggested, I still won't be surprised because you would be showing the typical Nigerian attitude of I-Know-It-All and that's why we don't progress much.

Shalom.

You made valid points not only because everybody has right to life but also because of the fact that everybody should live the way he or she fancies.
I'll be very brief cos of time. A lil child can think of doing whatever thing he feels like, even jumping into red sea but his parents have the responsibility and duty to safeguard him and put him back to his feet.
Taking for example, your sister might find a dog more sexually attractive than a man based on what she has seen, heard or learnt in the society, I want to believe strongly that you will lay your life for the cause of stopping her (God forbids anyway) just like some of us that have seen the futuristic effect of GLBT on the society.
Let me quickly state that it is socially immoral to think that the normal sexual intercourse BTW a man and a woman is overhyped and it will be dangerously criminal to think of terminating the continuous existence of human race. We all know the only valid way of reproduction is the sexual intercourse BTW a man and a woman or the cross-sex means. Now, don't you think it will be selfish and unnatural to start making babies out of wedlock, adapting babies cos of inability to reproduce together and exploring other means not because of impotence but for lusful desire or admiration which can attract damnation....
Let's now assume everybody becomes GLBT, how do u think new babies can come on board since there is no tech yet to handle that.
Lastly, I have a strong belief that it is criminal to attempt stopping the human race.
Think about!

Pepe has a Boss!



This got me cracking.... Ramos Animal can unplug a life support battery in order to charge his phone. Abd that was exacyly what happened but thank God he didn't spill his blood on the field for sacrifice

BetaThings:
I have corrected the options
All the countries you mentioned are Muslim countries. The penalty for being homosick in Islam is death.
And that is the only sensible solution

You have eyes for good things as ur moniker suggests, very creative coincidence.
But I think they should make it as habit if they get there and not as hustle.
It will save a lot!

vertueptime:


Why is it that its only final year students that beg on NL? If they are brilliant then they should use their heads to get funds from family and friends who might reap from their education in the nearest future not NL that come here to relax and get entertained. Im sure some beg to get money to go and drink or flex girls

You can't be sure of the ones that will flex with kind gift but be sure that some are genuine.
In the process of being mean to the unfaithful, u might eventually be wicked to the needy obliviously.
I read something like 'kindness is not when u expect back from ur kind gesture' (something like that), earlier in this post.
I think u don't know or feel how difficult it is raising funds from family and friends these days, everybody is broke and has huge responsibilities, so how will they abandon their own responsibilities and cater for urs, the most reason I used the word 'unlucky'.
In a nutshell, help the ones u can regardless of the motive, circumstance or the channel, and if u cant, move on pls! I know one day u will also need someonesle's help except if u have never begged for anything b4.

nobilis:
OK.
For the sake of argument, let us agree that it is a societal problem?

So tell us, what is the solution to this societal problem?

Its not a prioritised problem, so don't even think of prolific solution.
As simple as everybody should just condemn and discourage it! Don't abhour, don't attach unnecessary sentiments to it. The only thing gej did in his tenure was making gay an illegal act, so we follow that up adequately. Hemp Smoking is a habit and not genetic, just still same as gay. Some pple discovered the fun in smoking weed and sell it to other pple, jest the same way some pple found joy in GLBT and sold it to their slaves.
But our society condemns it based on out cultural values and beliefs, we are society and we condemn it just the way we condemn prostitution, we also took a step further by declaring it a crime, so if u can not live with our society's laws and value, pls u can proceed to Yemen, Afghanistan or Iraq. Simfu!

vertueptime:
If i was then i wouldnt be an advocate to stopping it. Its for the low life, if u do better stop

What of some brilliant unlucky students, still low life?

donstan18:
Then why do we have homosexuals and lesbians all over?

How did it manifest?

They downloaded it from playstore, abi?

Did they download stealing on internet, she mentioned that its a societal problem and doesnt have any thing to do with nature. Don't u get it?!

donstan18:
Then why do we have homosexuals and lesbians all over?

How did it manifest?

They downloaded it from playstore, abi?

Did they download stealing on internet, she mentioned that its a societal problem and doest have any thing to do with nature. Don't u get it?!

vertueptime:
Pls NL should block any E-begging post from now on, we dont even want to be seeing such, its the most annoying thing on NL today,

I know u use another moniker for ur begging skills, talk tru

Issakendrick:
The "Johnny" crooner "YemiAlade" took to her twitter page to call out people that are fond of begging for money or other things on social media.

According to the singer, she wants a stop to the activities.

She Wrote:

Seriously begging on social media should STOP. NO BE ONLY YOU DEY HUSTLE. if u wan work send email to my label. Work plenty.

Source:
http://nairaplus.com/2018/05/begging-on-social-media-should-stop-yemi-alade-demands/

Which work plenty, what's d size of her economy sef, oshisco. Dangote self no say work plenty cos he knows that unemployed Nigerians are plenty than his gross worth, this one wey never stabilize in own economy com dey form CEO. Come n c young Abj babes wey no dey beg for Ferrari... Idiat!

E be like say ur head no even correct sef, where make dem com beg u, make dem come beg u for house ba?
Give if u want to give and if u are stingy like you are, just stick to ur broke arse and get the f out of here... Stingico!
Somebody should just help me to Google that meme, a man throwing a trash can at that useless lady, am going to church.

Tessyama1:
From; Amagitesblog.com

A Nigerian lady, @holuwatosyn on Instagram has narrated how 3 old men jazzed and duped her yesterday in Surulere, Lagos.

According to her, one pretended to be a Rev. Father, the other pretended to be passing by and the last was the cab man.

Read her story below...

"I was jazzed and duped in Akerele surulere Lagos 12pm yesterday by 3 old men.one pretended to be a Rev. Father, and the other pretended to b passing, the last was the cab man.D Rev as he said he is, was in a cab, so they asked direction from me, which I told them I don't know I set to leave, and help them stop the other man that was going, as they tried stop him! The man asked the old man in the cab if he was one of the Reverend father that came to pray for the kids that had accident in an hospital on bode Thomas, then he said yes, and said he saw a revelation that we should be careful crossing and travelling, we set to leave, and the other man said there must b a reason (I was under control already) so we crossed over, and stopped d cab, then we got in, and all this prophesy started concerning us, I was adamant @ first mehn but the jazz strong unfortunately, I can't recall a thing they said in that cab! I couldn't even talk, I was just looking, and that's all I could recall! Then the Rev.Father asked the other man to get down, and he revealed what was going on in the man's life and asked me to write it down, I did, and we later went to pick the man up, then I was asked to drop all I had on me, I did, and that was it (419) and jazz (phoneless, money too, where will I start from now! ). My face cleared until I got down from the cab.3 old men, between the age of 53 to 70. It was a red cab. Are they now using old men? Ayele. Please beware of 419, they are so desperate. Am grateful to God it wasn't my life they took."

https://www.amagitesblog.com/2018/05/lady-narrates-how-3-men-jazzed-and-duped-her-in-lagos-yesterday.html

U no even happy say dey no even remove ur ovary

Buhari2rule:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayzefn-FExE

The arrest threat no even allow people to catch fun of this...
So, u can close ur window ma. Thanx.

Frauds from other countries according to their terminologies were also reflected in the blueprint na, so what's the big deal?
Let a country come out and boldly state that they don't have criminals in their citizenry then i will agree that the lady in question has every right to be upset with her country.
Mw, she and other Nigerian achievers in diaspora are good ambassadors of Nigeria. We thank God for that...

I don't understand.

The News, some Nigerians love reading these days...
May God save our souls.

Bump ain't sexy

GavelSlam:
You spent $16 Billion without power but you want us to read a book to explain why.

If na so make we kuku dey produce books.

This comment makes more sense to me than the post itself, even more than the allegator and the alleged himself.

@op its u I want to have a word with but firstly, why do u think I should know about this?

Is she an NIA Agent?
Or CIA rather...

I thought they wanted to say '0pen legs'. It must be a typo I guess...

Before na Boris we deyride at this age

Chioma on it again...
RIP!

How big? As in...

But the suspects denied being kidnappers, insisting that they were just fraudsters looking for who to swindle.
This part tho, they will go and tell it to their IPO.

You will not be great like your mum in Jesus name! Amen...

naijacentric:
lol yes o in situations where dey need men dey throw away their laws of recruitment

Huhh huhh, you got d rhythm.

naijacentric:
Lai lai unless ur in its okay as a new recruit wont work ur body must be flawless

I pray there is no major war sha, in Jesus name. Even an ogbomosho man with big tribal make will be conscripted if you know what I mean...

Postanalyser:
To the journalist, please keep hiding o...you can never count on the words of people with black uniform.

Truly bae!

Sombori will not Coman read this now...

Its not safe to read this then, I close the post on my own device asap....huh!