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401kk: I also asked this question a while ago but nobody responded.
You see, our lack of proper education has been a huge stumbling block to our collective development. Nigerians talk and argue loosely, without getting a basic understanding of what they're arguing about. Most people who criticize the president for not being able to curtail the BH crisis don't know
1. What the BH sect is
2. Their demands and objectives
3. The scope of their operation
4. Apparatus and strategies being put forward by the authorities to stop them.
5. Why it's been a difficult task for the authorities to stop so far
etc

These bunch of misplaced Nigerians would rather throw the blames at the president forgetting that
1. The BH insurgency and other insecurity issues did not start during his tenure.
2. Nigeria has been very disorganized before he became president
3. We have no proper intelligence gathering unit in place
4. The NPF is filled with lazy, unintelligent, dispassionate and corrupt nigerians
5. No proper citizen recognition system or database in place
6. Our borders have been porous before he became president
7. He is not to blame for the high level of poverty, illiteracy and religious stupidity in the north
8. He is not to blame for the presence of mules in the security forces
9. He's trying his best to eradicate the menace


If you want to criticize the president, do it well.

Don't quote me please. I'm out

Are these suggestions to the president on how to tackle Boko Haram or suggestions to the Critics on how to tackle the President?

Just asking!

gerald28: Why do you people aways make a moronic comment, do you think ribadu and fashola ticket is sellable??

I think Ribadu is perhaps not ready, as he
hasn't held any elective office, but he has
potential. He has liberal instincts, calls a spade a spade, but can't articulate well why we need the policies we need. And he is very likeable.

Of course, the North won't annoint him as there candidate for 2015. And pairing him with Fashola is not looking good either. After watching the Presidential Debate, I see he won't fair any better than GEJ.

But obviously 2015 election is 'Opposition vs PDP', so any good combination fielded by opposition will likely get electorate's nod.

Meristem: THIS IS RAT POISON!!!! I have hands on experience on a 3 bedroom bungalow project and I swear this poster wrote this list from the warm comfort of his/her jacuzzi! I even have an excel worksheet for my job so far, estimated costs, actual costs and all. OP if you expressly request, I can forward it to you. In naija, everybody knows everything about everything! if u get started on this 15k,15k,5k list, u'd be standed with a concrete slab, an unpaid mortgage, a blown up life savings...and no house. if you dont believe me,try. So many factors determine the cost of a building, like LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION (how many times did I say that?). ***switches back to listening mode***

Rat Poison? Kindly post your costs and let's have any building material supplier vet both of them. The fact that you spent millions doesn't make you any better than those who spend less.
Beside that, do you expect a man who bought a land of N300k to start putting chandelier of N200k, Bath Tub of N150k, Granite Countertop, Fence, Spanish Tiles, etc. That's foooolishness!

The act of being wise is knowing what one needs to overlook.

Interestingly, a lot of ignorants talk about location as key determinant of build cost. I don't think so. The size, quality of the finishes and features of a house determines its final build cost.
I can choose to buy a N60 tungsten bulb, while you choose to buy a N800 energy saving bulb. What has location got to do with that?

The materials needed to build a duplex in Lekki and a village in Ijebu is the same. The number of blocks, cement, iron rod etc. But if you want to prove Big Boy and decide to build on the Atlantic Ocean, that's your problem!

@OP, I'm not supplying you any material. Take time to do a market survey and find out for yourself

Keep in mind my advice - Build Simple. There's a lot of time to upgrade later in the future. Put your mind on items that should be quality upfront and those that can be upgraded later.

Of the names listed above, Fashola sounds the most interesting.

I can see him as a person to keep an eye on.

Why Nigeria must decentralise, by Babatunde Raji Fashola:

He said: “Does the central government have the human, institutional and governmental capacity to provide basic needs such as primary education, water supply, sanitation and primary health care in a reliable manner in all the 774 Local Governments?
“As a corollary, we might also ask whether the Federal Government is able to maintain all the 9001 roads in Lagos state and make them pothole free all year

Billyonaire: My man, I am an unbiased patriot, I sweat it out in this country and I buy fuel everyday to power businesses and home. I am not ready to vote anyone who will have my unborn kids go through what I go through now just to live basic life which is the right of all. The Tinubu that you mention, I can provide you with several concrete proof on how he highhandedly pushed out people from the waterfront that his Oriental Hotel is built, I can also take you to Kizito bar, where he nearly render the owner of that business homeless with his political powers to take over that entire region, he didnt stop there, he crossed over to the opposite lane to take over the Oniru family's plot using the LCC staff and machinery, but the Oniru Family is a tough knot to crack, he came into Lekki Phase 1 and instituted a new law that makes it mandatory for plot owners to develop it within 6 months or loss the plot to the State government, he has overtook several plots and sold many of them and developed others for personal use, I can point to one of his bullet-proof mansions at Fola Oshibo Street in LP1. Do you want me to continue with analysis of the Alpha Beta imbroglio and the battle unseat Fashola just to keep his loot machine afloat. Dont be sentimentally supportive of these wicked and corrupt politicians, he wont give you bread for breakfast. Tribe and region does not earn you a place in paradise and that paradise can be here on earth if Tinubu and the rest of the corrupt politicians can share one-tenth of what they own to every other Nigerians to keep. I rest my case and am waiting for blind bats to commence their attacks on the counts of ....1....2....3....GO!

Keep counting! I can't remember when Nairaland was turned into law court.

How about Dangote? Did he made his wealth legitimately or not?

Being patriotic is an expression of your love for your country and not the government or an individual. I don't have to agree with the policies of the federal government in order to love my country.
Beside, Nigera was founded on the fact that some citizens didn't agree with how the Oyinbos were governing us.
It is the responsibility of the citizens to keep elected officials accountable for their acts and the policies they establish by criticizing the country when things are going wrong.

So why should criticizing GEJ's administration be an exception?

hunniebomb: Instead of building with low amount, why not lease the land. Lots of houses around lagos (can't remember specific areas) are contructed with inferior (low-grade) building materials in the bid to cut-cost (stick to budget) or complete construction in records time. Such building sink overtime and might eventually collapse.
So if possible lease the land and use the proceeds for other investments.

Madam, I have a plot of land to lease. Can you refer me a lessor?

Its nice seeing that we're taking a clean break from non-stop talking about issues and weakness of the GEJ's administration and we are discussing 2015. Whom do you think Nigerians should have as a presidential candidate for 2015?

More discussion going here www.nairaland.com/974791/should-nigerias-presidential-candidate-2015

Ayee Idris: why would a Ghanaian come and abusing our president sef? Not supporting GEJ,but i take some degree of offense at a foreigner addressing my president with such impetus. one may insult his father or his alma-mata but let a stranger do this same and all hell breaks loose. thats how i feel about this issue. Professor sir, please address my president with some respect, 2ndly, its none of your business. face your "perfect" country and leave mine for me. Have we reached the level that a foreigner would insult our president and is celebrated??

Go and arrest the man now!

PhysicsQED: Kobo, you are incorrigible and I wonder why I even bother with you sometimes.

GEJ was against revealing his asset declaration (declaring publicly) in 2007, but went ahead with it because Yar'Adua, his boss, wanted that.

GEJ is against revealing his asset declaration now. The constitution does not require public declarations of one's assets.

The Freedom of Information Act would be useful in forcing the CCB to reveal information on GEJ's assets except that:

"Specifically, Section 153 of the Constitution establishes a Code of Conduct Bureau to ensure, among other things, that all public officers, as defined in Part II of the Fifth Schedule, declare their assets on assuming office and immediately their terms of office expire. Paragraph Three of Part 1 (A) of the Third Schedule, empowers the Bureau to receive declarations made by all public officers, examine same and keep them in custody. Paragraph 3(C) says the Bureau shall have the power to "retain custody of such declarations and make them available for inspection by any citizen of Nigeria on such terms and conditions as the National Assembly may prescribe."

The Constitution trumps the Freedom of Information Act so the CCB people are correct on blaming any withholding of information on the National Assembly's failure to describe under what particular terms and conditions the CCB may release Jonathan's information.

If making it mandatory that asset declarations to the Code of Conduct Bureau are revealed to the public is a good way to fight corruption - it might have some impact - then every government official at every single level of government should make them public. I don't understand why people assume that the president of the country is the only potential thief.

You don't have any point here. You should be asking why the Constitution was written in a way that the National Assembly has to dictate how and under what conditions declarations of assets may be released for inspection by citizens instead of going on about imaginary constitutional violations.

You're just too lazy to dig up information for yourself, like that professor. This is my last response to you on this thread.

Oga, are you Mr Reuben Abati? You seem to know something!

PhysicsQED: Kobo kobo kobo, I'm disappointed. You usually seem good at picking little holes wherever you can and building mountains out of small details but in this case you're just wrong.

This is what the constitution actually says:

"140. (1) A person elected to the office of President shall not begin to perform the functions of that office until he has declared his assets and liabilities as prescribed in this Constitution and he has taken and subscribed the Oath of Allegiance and the oath of office prescribed in the Seventh Schedule to this Constitution.

(2) The oaths aforesaid shall be administered by the Chief Justice of Nigeria or the person for the time being appointed to exercise the functions of that office. "



Now how does one "declare his assets and liabilities as prescribed in this Constitution"?


In this manner:


"Declaration of assets

11.

- (1) Subject to the provisions of this Constitution, every public officer shall within three months after the coming into force of this Code of Conduct or immediately after taking office and thereafter -

(a) at the end of every four years; and

(b) at the end of his term of office, submit to the Code of Conduct Bureau a written declaration of all his properties, assets, and liabilities and those of his unmarried children under the age of eighteen years."


And the meaning of this?

Assets are declared

a) within 3 months of taking office or "immediately" after (not before) taking office

and

b) 4 years after taking office

and

c) after leaving office

GEJ declared his assets to the Code of Conduct Bureau in May 2010 after becoming president in February of 2010 and has not left office since then. Maybe you'll have a case four years from when he took office or when GEJ leaves office, but until then, you're just blowing hot air on this particular issue like the Ghanaian professor was.

I know this is not too difficult to understand, Kobo.

Please try and open your own eyes next time.

How come you're not on Dana flight? M*ron!
Why did he declared his asset in May 2010 afterall he did so when he was sworn-in with President Yar'adua in 2007. They both did and it wasn't up to 4 years.

Cook up another lie for your master!!! Nigerians are no fool.

GboyegaD: I also need advice. I once bought 2plots of land around Ofada somewhere very close to the new Nestle factory and the community then told us we needed to do something on it. I chose to fence mine and I spent so much fencing it. However, when I visited the place after several months, I realised no other person had fenced theirs and now I am quite skeptical about building anything because I do not know when others would start developing theirs. What would you advice?

Nothing stops you bro! Shell construction for now is not a bad idea.
Also, it depends on what you're planning to put up. If its commercial - OK. But if its for personal use, bros chill out a bit. The land aint running.

I knew that place like the back of my hand. Its too isolated but with Nestle and other companies/estates springing up in the area, the prospect is very high.

Don't be deceived into thinking home ownership is as simple as buying a car? It isn't. One wrong move, you're gone.

Here's a layman/ruggedman calculation of a simple 2 bedroom house to finishing stage.
Note: Finishing here is just basic.

Land: 300k

Shell Construction

1500 Blocks (foundation to roofing level): 180k
50 bags Cement (foundation/flooring/block setting excluding plastering): 90k
20 tonnes Gravel (foundation/flooring/casting): 35k
Sand: 50k
Iron rods, Ring, Binding Wire, Iron Bender etc: 40k on a paddy-paddy arrangement.
Carpentary works: 25k on a paddy-paddy arrangement.
Bricklayer: 70k on a paddy-paddy arrangement.

Roofing Woodwork

Planks (including internal/external ceiling nogging): 200k
Nail, wall belt etc: 8k
Carpentary work: 60k
Roofing sheet: ?

Windows, Doors and Burglar Proof

Aluminium Windows : 90k don't buy tower, use imported. Its cheaper.
Doors (5 local and 4 imported doors): 100k
Burglar Proof (Simple one using 12mm iron rod): 70k

Plumbing and Electricals

Toilet Seat x 3: 18k
Wash hand basin x 2: 5k
Shower fittings in the master bedroom: 15k
Pipes and other fittings: 30k
750l Overhead tank: 15k
Plumber: 15k

Electrical wires (lighting/socket): 50k
Socket and Switches (MEM): 25k
Distribution board: 5k
Cut-out/Fuse: 3k
Change Over box: 5k
Light fittings[i]normal lampholder in the rooms and kitchen, wall bracket and ceiling light in the living room and dining: 35k
Electrician workmanship: 15k on a paddy-paddy arrangement

Tiles

Kitchen backsplash on kitchen sink area, and full tiles on the floor: 15k
Bathrooms tiles in floor and shoulder level in the wet areas alone: 20k
Living Room: 25k




I got to go and pick my kid in school, more updates later on Plastering, Septic Tank, Well/Borehole, Ceiling, etc

Note: the prices above is generic as a result its non-binding. Just a guide.

Stop Talking. Start Building. Build Simple.

spyder880: For me, I cannot put off till tomorrow what I can do today. Todays fears could turn to tomorrow's horror.
The best time to have planted a mango tree was 20 years ago, the next best time is NOW!!!

Another opportunity to catch with my Oga on NL. Well done!

@OP, Home Ownership is not for everyone, but for most people. You must want it enough and be willing to sacrifice to get there.

Stop Talking. Start Building. Build Simple.

It's the only investment that you can buy and borrow against, live in, use everyday and possibly still see growth in value.

Read more on Building a house on limited means http://nexthomebuilder.blog.com/building-a-house-on-limited-means/

sojmann: Thank you for your review.Very much appreciated!So in effect,I should get another domain like "christian nation" and continue from there?

@sojmann, a good website is a sum of its parts. Domain name inclusive.

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pls suggest if my workis good or not.

First, the URL is http://basebook.tk. At first, I was going to ask where you got Facebook's Source Code.

In the world of web design, we can see other people’s mistakes, but not our own, because we’re too close and too familiar with our own pages. We can use our critical eye on another site, but our critical eye goes blind on our site.

Can I assume basebook.tk is a work in progress or in beta stage? I see to many flaws that you should have noticed.
I can post or even upload a picture without signing in, why is there a need for a 'Sign in page'?

Overall: its a good job! Just minor tweaks and you're fine.

msay: Rochas Okorocha IMO State

Fashola and Rochas!

Both Governors have very solid approval ratings, but Fashola's are absolutely through
the roof. He reminds me of Duke in OBJ days.

Rochas is someone I'd like to see run in 2015.

Thanks all. I'd gotten one in Iyana-Isashi area, Okokomaiko.

Let's take a break for a moment from non-stop
talking about issues and weakness of the present administration, who do you think Opposition Parties should have as a presidential candidate for 2015?
I think we should we be setting things up now so that that person is well-known and has a strong resume by the time of the elections?

Who are the rising superstars in the current political dispensation? We need to start identifying good candidates now and start getting their name out there.

I'll tell you one of my heroes is Gov. Fashola of Lagos state. I am not sure whether he is right to be our candidate or not, but I really like the way he thinks and articulates why we need good policies. Lagos is a state for all (Yoruba, Hausa, Igbo) and Fashola is managing the state well.

Who are some of the good guys you really like and who you think might be the next rising star to make a great run at the presidency in 2015?

Mekusnwa: The way you guys talk as if Gej's govt has not done anything on roads baffles me. Systematically, some people in Nairaland keep hiding the truth from the public. But I will make bold to list GEJ's achievement on roads so that genuine minded people will know and take steps to verify while the haters and BH Nairalanders,will find another opportunity to reign in their insults and abuses. In just one year, precisely 2011 budget, Gej was able to award and also complete some of the road projects across the country viz; Owerri-Onitsha, Afikpo-Okigwe, 9th mile, Auchi-Okene, Benin-Ore-Lagos(80%), Apapa-Oshodi expressway awarded to Julius Berger, Kaduna eastern Byepass, Kano Byepass, Keffi-Akwanga-Lafia, Obi-Awe-Lafia, Kano - Maidugri, Kolo- Nembe-brass, Zaria-Funtua-Gusau which is above 101 km. let's be factual please

Is it the same Benin-Ore-Lagos of Nigeria you're talking about? Provide your facts, I'll send thousands of pictures to refute your claims.

Naijagunner83: Not dying in silence is not the same as flaunting your ignorance and lack of knowledge of your Country's policies, prospects, achievements and challenges. And rather tow the folly of a mad Ghanaian proffersor who does not know us. Ghana is a fellow West African (rival) neighbour and this is an attempt to rubbish the image, pride and integrity of our fatherland

Excuse my ignorance and lack of knowledge! Educate us further on what the President is doing (in the area of corruption) that you know that he's not willing to share with us.

If you ask me, I'll say GEJ is too ideologically
motivated to be an effective president. At these present times, Nigerians need the smart and rational people to come back.
You don't need a binoculars to understand what the policies this administration has conjured up will do to our country.

Of course, people can be smart and rational but not have the best interests of the country at the top of their priorities list.

The Ghanaian Professor is only showing concern because they can see clearly from the outside.

Billyonaire: On a second thought, Nairaland, after so many years of existence has 912293 members; not even up to 1 million, of the 167m people in Nigeria, I guess Nairaland will even lose more people because no one wants to stay here and see the folly going on here.....

Bye, bye. Make una start your own forum and grow it to 100 million in 2 months.

By the way, Nairaland gave you a VOICE.

Spirit of Okija: Ask America why they were willing to fly sorties into Libya to bomb out Ghadaffi yet have not lifted a finger against Assad in Syria who has commited worse attorcities than Ghadaffi did..

America is not a yardstick for measuring nothing..

Smart f'ool

And when has land mass became yardstick for measuring success? If not for your name and the juju wey you carry, I for blow you for my screen.
You fit talk say, the whole of south-east develop pass Lagos.

Wake up from your slumber!

fesse: Those of you supporting the half-baked mad prof. from Ghana, what are you guys still doing in Nigeria? I thought by now you guys would have been en-route Ghana.

Well Nigeria is the way it is now because many of us refuse to be patriotic. Must everything be done by the government? I remember how we all rejected the move made by south africa some months back; here we are now insulting a sitting president who is billions far better than your fathers joined together.

Why can't we for once reject our enemies who are doing everything possible to destabilize this government. Please the boko sponsors in the north and the greedy oppositions should allow this man to concentrate.

He is bad, clueless, lunatic, vision-less, etc what were you doing during the elections? or are you not qualified to contest? LIVE ABOVE HATE and be PATRIOTIC.

Did you say 'election' or 'selection'? The best way to reject our enemies is by resisting and criticizing them which you had a problem with.
As for me, patriotism does mean the same as been a slavery - a question of freedom. Should I keep back my opinions through fear of giving offense on the guise of being patriotic.

NO! I won't die in silence. Your fathers did and here we are.

Billyonaire: Every Nigerian who welcomes insult to the President by a foreign will never do well.

Every Nigerian who supports evil and abhor the truth will never do well. Say 'Amen' to that!

Amen!!!

Enough of all this talk! GEJ is a failure and the most incompetent president Nigeria ever produced - how do we get rid of him is the next thing. Or how do we stop him from perceived 2nd term agenda?

GEJ must go!

401kk: Thanks for saying this.
Most Nigerians now call Obasanjo "the best president we've ever had", "the father of modern day nigeria" etc. The same Obasanjo that wasted eight years of our national life!

Keep on wasting it!

Spirit of Okija: Whats the population of Ghana?!

How much does it cost to build roads in Ghana?!

How many megawatts of electricity does Ghana produce?!

Apart from Accra and maybe Kumasi, where else in Ghana is developed?!

On what ratio do you compare Ghana to Nigeria as Nigeria is over 3 time the land mass and population of Ghana..

Bros, Ask OBAMA why he chooses Ghana over Nigeria?

Foooooools world!

Spirit of Okija: Someone just disrespected an entire Country and you salute him?!

You are worse than an infidel..

Na today? Expect more insult from other African countries. If it pains you, CHANGE at the next exit.

jmaine: Bros, no need trying to polarize my assertion . . .i was simply destroying the warped notion that studying "perceived" intelligent courses are the needed requisite to be affirmed a good leader . . .A reason why i cited Peter Odili and Gbenga Daniels who are intelligent individuals using the academic yardstick . . but still performed below par . . .Get my drift dude ? . . .
I can sense your anti ACN dance steps here . . .

Next time you're making a citation, choose a good reference. Daniel is not one and definitely not Amosun.

jmaine: Interesting . .let me appease your intellect and sincerity by saying Gbenga Daniel was the best thing to happen to Ogun State . . .The people were unfair in berating him and accusing him falsely . . .He performed excellently and never embezzled . . . .Ogun peeps were erroneous in calling him a failure . .

If you feel the above ticks your approval . . then permit me to also strengthen the theory that the worth of a Nigerian politician is in his/her course of study and professional field



Again, it's silly trying to attack a personality based on the course he/she studied in the university . . . .that is what kids do . . .Do you also support that notion . . .

Verdict :- If you must criticize . .don't be silly about it by citing his course of study, more so when you don't even know much about you chose to castigate . . .

I dey laugh o. Is it the same Ogun state? So what do you have to say about Lagos, Ondo and even Oyo state?

Abeg, make we digress! Gbenga no try at all. Amosun is even worse! Don't know when the word 'try' became standard for politicians.