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Christianity EtcRe: A Thread For Catholics by btoks: 9:29am On May 24, 2015
Syncan:
Feast of the Pentecost...Birth of the Church





May the good Lord receive our praises and
grant us many testimonies in our
lives. Amen.
May the Lord meet you at your points of need
Btoks and SalC

Good morning brethren, a splendid Sunday ahead to all.
Amen. Have a blessed Sunday as well.
PoliticsRe: FG Raises Alarm Over Dwindling Electricity Supply, Power Plants Shutdown by btoks: 8:06am On May 23, 2015
It really is shameful that in 2015 we still have abysmal power supply. when will this suffering end?
Christianity EtcRe: A Thread For Catholics by btoks: 6:12pm On May 22, 2015
Kamsified:
Dear chinelosa, Kizmarty and frodobee pls chose your special psalm

Cc: peppyluv02, btoks and Pa woky
Hi all,psalm 121 for me please.For continued peace and happiness in marriage.
Enjoy your weekend
PoliticsRe: This Ghanaian Just Finished Nigeria On Instagram by btoks: 9:28pm On May 11, 2015
kilokeys:
we can stand it cos we are resilient..

u would definitely run mad if u try imitating us.

we r made from tougher materials.. ode oshi.. and with all ur light and kenke no charlie fit ever fresh reach me and my padis

black dead stars
I think our resilience has become foolishness or Stockholm Syndrome in some ways.
How can we be suffering for this long but say we are resilient?No one else accepts this suffering where something can be done about it.
Christianity EtcRe: Can A Christian Be A BOXER? by btoks: 6:08pm On May 04, 2015
You could ask the same question of majority of sports.E.g is a tennis player intentionally harming himself by constantly rotating his shoulders or wrists,how about the ankles?Or athletes who have to constantly train their bodies?

Boxing is a sport that is well regulated-you cannot hit below the belt,you've got to wear gloves etc.unlike the gladiators who fought to death in st Pauls day.
The aim of boxing is to outbox your opponent through still and speed. you'll find that most fights will end by points or TKO. It is dangerous but so are most activities we carry out to one extent or another.

Obviously, it becomes a sin if a boxer goes in to harm intentionally for revenge,personal vendetta or get undue advantage by drugs or using hidden weapons.
Generally,I believe boxing does more good than harm.eg.unruly kids are able to channel their energy. My opinion
InvestmentRe: Oil Marketers Holding Nation To Ransom,Says Okonjo-Iweala. by btoks: 8:26am On May 04, 2015
supereagle:
I blame GEJ and Madam Okonjo-Iweala for this mess. When Abacha was Head of State we were not having fuel scarcity . When GEJ got there ,he promoted fuel importation and we found ourselves in this mess. If one of the four refineries is working , it will not be bad like this.
I seem to remember the Abacha stove run on saw dust during the Abacha regime.
Obviously, fuel scarcity is a perennial issue in Nigeria that needs to be tackled seriously,whatever the cause.
SportsRe: Sani Kaita Celebrates His 29th Birthday Today by btoks: 12:14pm On May 02, 2015
OrlandoOwoh:
Taiye Taiwo and his twin brother, Kehinde celebrate different ages in Europe and Lagos respectively.
Hoax!! you might want to check your source. This story ran on NL a while back

https://www.nairaland.com/921452/taiye-taiwo-turns-25-today
SportsRe: Sani Kaita Celebrates His 29th Birthday Today by btoks: 10:31am On May 02, 2015
micktoxin:
Lol Keita reminds me of one uncle London guy, that claimed 15Years old grin
This is the guy the UK immigration pulled up,right?I wonder what ever happened to him
Christianity EtcRe: A Thread For Catholics by btoks: 8:22am On May 02, 2015
I choose May 24th.
God bless
Christianity EtcRe: According To Original Bible by btoks: 7:56am On May 02, 2015
JMAN05:
those apocryphals are not inspired. The Jews who produced the bible Jesus used in the first century never used them. It was never part of there canon.

don't allow him to push u to accept.
Yes,the apocryphal books are not inspired but the deutero-canonicals are inspired.two different things.
I'm sure that you're aware that the apostles mainly quoted from the septuagint,which had the DT books.
I also mentioned before that the same Jews who rejected the DTs are the ones who also rejected the NT.
You might reject the DTs as inspired but the early church says otherwise. Who do we believe?
PoliticsRe: Give Us Light Now : Enough Is Enough by btoks: 7:35am On May 02, 2015
Agreed.For too long Nigerians have suffered with this power supply problem. I just hope that the new government can genuinely address this major issue and alleviate the suffering. Regular power supply=better security,more jobs, better healthcare.
There is a lot of work to do as our current generation capacity of about 4GW will not even meet Lagos state power demand
BusinessRe: See What Fuel Scarcity Has Caused At A Filling Station In Nigeria(Photo) by btoks: 6:09pm On May 01, 2015
When will all this sufferhead end in Naija!!others are moving on we're dealing with fuel scarcity in 2015.
Christianity EtcRe: A Thread For Catholics by btoks: 4:16pm On Apr 29, 2015
brocab:
Seriously, why do you call me brother, by what is written in this page, it shows clearly' you don't seem to believe in word or in truth, let alone by their fruits you will know them.
When you pray go into your secret room and ask the Father in heaven, why you have so much dislike's against your brother brocab?

Tell the Father, you believe brocab should show more respect on this page, and that the truth of this matter, the word of God shouldn't be preached, amongst us Catholic believers, because the poster was meant to support a Catholic member only, not by some random Christian who calls himself one.
Tell the Father in Heaven you are confused on the word Catholic meaning universal-that all believers in Christ are the same.
Which points me in the right direction, as being a Christian myself I am sharing the word of God to my brothers and sisters in truth and word on this page.
Christians in Christ are the same, have you got any rejections btoks.
I am supporting someone in need, As Jesus tells me to do in word and truth...
Yes the word 'catholic' means universal. However, this was used to denote the true church established by Jesus from the heretical groups of the day. In our day, you will agree that there are more groups(over 30,000) claiming they know the truth so it is even more pertinent that the word catholic is used appropriately. We noticed that your doctrine is different from what the catholic church teaches and since you have not proven you are the true church establised all those centuries ago, how do we accept your version of events. You are aware that Jesus prayed the we all be one. Nevertheless, we are brothers and we'll keep praying for you.

As to your arguement about priests and confession, will you say the same about baptism or preaching the gospel? God bless.
Christianity EtcRe: According To Original Bible by btoks: 3:44pm On Apr 29, 2015
Scholar8200:
What matters is that the books were inspired..
Do read the entire epistle. Chapter 1 shows that the statement not only applied to the Old testament but to the Gospels, Chapter 3:15,16 further shows the extension to the epistles. 2 Peter 1:21 shows a criteria that the apostles did not come short of. Indeed, after them, God has raised up countless apostles and church leaders but since they were the first set, the inspired message giving to them remains the same for the Church for all time. Hence Jude 3 speaks of the faith once delivered to the saints. God is not the author of confusion. Inspite of the anointing on Joshua and the 70 elders, none of them attempted producing their own set of laws!
None of the books you just listed was written in the period when Divine revelations were halted.
Yes, the books are inspired but your basis for knowing this is weak.
Chapter 1 talks about the gospel but this was very likely referring to the oral rather than written gospel. (No books were mentioned)
Please go back to the history of the bible complilation. The only time anyone definitely removed books from the bible was in the 16th century by Martin Luther. In the early days of christianity there were obviously debates as to the canonicity of scriptures,which books were inspired or not etc. but no council defined the canon until the late 4th Century and difinitively by the council of Trent in the 16th Century. In all cases, the DT books were included.
If by the hebrews you mean the supposed council around 100 AD, these people also rejected the entire NT.
There is no Christian council that ever confirmed that the 7 DT books were not inspired. In fact the Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and oriental churches (All linked to the early church) all have the DTs in the canon.

All I'm trying to point out is that your conclusion of certain books not be inspired is not based on historical fact.
Christianity EtcRe: According To Original Bible by btoks: 9:01pm On Apr 28, 2015
Scholar8200:
First regarding your last question, 2 Timothy 3:16," All scripture is given by Inspiration of God" Also, 2 Peter 1:21," for the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man; but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost"

The apocrypha was written at a time when there was a halt in Divine revelation for 4 centuries implying no prophets, visions etc (inter - testament period). The books thus written were more of the product of literary activity. You will notice that neither Christ nor any of His apostles referred to them.
After resurrection, Christ spoke about the things written concerning Him in , "the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms" luke 24:44. Conspicuously skipping the apocrypha!
Re. 2 tim 3:16,this does not prove the NT is inspired. The NT was not in existence at the time.he was referring to the OT which wasn't even canonised at the time.
How can you tell from 2peter1.21 what books he was referring to?
Going by your logic of deutero-canonicals not been quoted from (although not entirely true), how about songs of Solomon, Esther, Ecclesiastes.These were not quoted from either. Why isn't Enoch part of the bible?
Jesus did not list the OT books in Luke 24.
Deutero-canonical means 2nd canon as opposed to the apocryphal books.
Your conclusions are based on protestant tradition and does not prove that the deutero-canonicals are not inspired.
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Not Prudent To Do Away With Doctrins That Are In Conflict With Bible ? by btoks: 8:14pm On Apr 28, 2015
urheme:
So because moses took bones it becomes a doctrine to remove the dead from their resting place even when half decayed, does it make sense to you huh
The verse you cited did not say by extention that christians should vandalise graves, it is rather an act of disrespect to the dead. An act of crime soto say undecided

I give up on you guys cry
Really huh
But the scriptures do not give a minute by minute commentary of everything that happened. He's given you a relevant citation. At least try to understand that there may be a lot more to it rather than dismissing all together.
I think the issue you should be looking at is one of authority i.e.how can you tell what is doctrine or not. E.g. is the consecrated bread and wine really the body & blood of Jesus or not.
Christianity EtcRe: A Thread For Catholics by btoks: 12:33pm On Apr 28, 2015
smoothpapuzy:
But do you agree with me that the priests neglected there duty?
I mean, I don't own my life and can be called at anytime. What if other people have died as a result of the negligence!
God knows your heart and intentions and will judge accordingly.
The priests are not always readily available as mentioned by Syncan.What you can do is to show perfect contrition and pray to God.You can then go to confession at the next available opportunity. You could also try another Parish.

If you're concerned and have proof that a priest is neglecting their duty,you can raise it with the bishop as well.
Christianity EtcRe: A Thread For Catholics by btoks: 12:13pm On Apr 28, 2015
brocab:
Firstly in Christ you don't need to see any priest for confession, you just ask the Lord in prayer anywhere-and repent.
Secondly a priest has no power to forgive sins. Mark 2:10, "But that you may know that the Son of Man has power on earth to forgive sins..

Matthew 16:25 "For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.
Priest can't save your souls.
Romans 10:9-10, That if we confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart, that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. V's 10-For with the heart one believes to righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made to salvation.
Only Jesus can save your soul.Only Jesus can hear your confessions.
Talk with Him today...
Seriously brother, you're helping no one here with your futile interjections. I'm sure this has been mentioned before.The poster came on this thread to get a catholic answer not some random brocab answer. Please show some respect and consider opening another thread to do your preaching or air your views.
We'll keep praying for you. God bless.
PetsRe: 7 Dogs Attack Driver In Lagos (pics) by btoks: 11:58am On Apr 28, 2015
The dogs will keep doing that until trained properly or put down, unfortunately.
Dog owners need to ensure their dogs are trained adequately, I wonder what laws we have in place for dog handling like this.
Hope the guy gets better with good treatment.
Christianity EtcRe: According To Original Bible by btoks: 11:50am On Apr 28, 2015
Scholar8200:
they include the deutero-canonical writings- not inspired.
This is quite a claim here.How do you know the deutero-canonicals are not inspired?In a similar vein,how do you know any of the NT books is inspired?
Christianity EtcRe: Catholics - What Is The Reason For Not Eating One Hour Before Communion? by btoks: 11:26am On Apr 28, 2015
homesteady:
Since during my cathetism classes, I've always heard of this not eating one hour before communion!
Is it real or just a myth? who made the rule? because I haven't seen it In the Bible.
What is the reason or aim for the rule?
The time limit is a discipline/church rule not a doctrine or dogma.The time limit can be changed by the church if it deems it fit.In fact,the time limit used to be longer - (fasting from midnight)and the eastern Orthodox still practice this including sexual relation abstinence between couples night before.
As a previous poster mentioned,it's all in preparation for receiving Christ.
As for not been explicit in the bible,remember that it is the church that is the pillar and foundation of truth(1 tim 3:15).It decides how we are to live our lives as Christians, the rules, doctrines etc. as Jesus gave the founding Apostles the power to bind and loose.
EventsRe: (pics) White Wedding Trapped At Imo / Rivers Borther (closed) because Of Election. by btoks: 8:18am On Apr 26, 2015
We take too much nonsense in Nigeria, a supplementary election shouldn't be an impediment to day to day business,. when would we be truly free to live our lives in Nigeria?
CrimeRe: Nigerian Woman Steals £17,000 From UK Employers For Luxury Wedding!!! (pics) by btoks: 4:29pm On Apr 25, 2015
runningback:
Our motivation to better our country shouldn't be motivated by changing anybody's opinion about our country. They can go to hell, we should be better for ourselves.

Do American's bother the world thinks of them as capitalist war mongers with no morals?
Suit yourself bros. However, do note that America is known for a lot more than you've listed.
CrimeRe: Nigerian Woman Steals £17,000 From UK Employers For Luxury Wedding!!! (pics) by btoks: 2:21pm On Apr 25, 2015
runningback:
You guys exaggerate this bad name thing. Crime is everywhere perpetrated by people of various nationalities.

The 419 we think Nigerians are king of, go ask about Russian scammers. Drug dealing? Colombians. etc.
Whilst it's true crimes are committed by various nationalities, unfortunately for Nigeria there isn't much else to write home about. Most of these other countries at least have some major positives intentionally. The perception of Nigerians is one of fraud and Boko H.
For instance, I'm aware several organisations have a Nigerian scam awareness session.We,Nigerians, have to change the perception foreigners have.
Christianity EtcRe: A Thread For Catholics by btoks: 6:26am On Apr 25, 2015
I throway salute.Have a wonderful weekend all.God bless.
FoodRe: Common Nigerian Foods And Their Recipes by btoks: 12:46pm On Apr 23, 2015
Definately making me salivate . Would love these foods to be known worldwide like chinese or indian meals
Christianity EtcRe: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by btoks: 7:17pm On Apr 19, 2015
I think you may have some misconceptions about the Catholic Church, there is nothing to be scared about.the fear is that of change which occurs to most people in other circumstances as well.
I'll suggest that you try to learn about the church properly and you may have a different opinion about it. You may want to raise this with your fiancé and get him to agree that you're willing to keep an open mind but will like to learn about the church. Ultimately,it should be your decision if you wish to convert or not.
Your decision should be based on your love for your fiancé, if it's strong enough you'll both do what makes you happy.
PoliticsRe: James Ibori: UK Taxpayers Face Huge Bill To Recover Profits From £50m Fraudster by btoks: 6:37pm On Apr 18, 2015
geosilbert:
The british are quick to judge us but will never judge their ppl who have stolen more then him. In d uk we know ppl who have stolen more than him but were never brought to book and to tell d truth was he d only one that stole money. How about someone who went to jail only to come one to be president of Nigeria use 8good yrs to enrich himself and today he is a scent ?
I doubt that the British don't judge their own....they're well known for going back in history to prosecute past crimes to serve as a deterrent. Who are the people who have stolen more Ibori in UK but not brought to book?
PoliticsRe: Buhari Slams Iweala & Will Force Ministers To Declare Assets by btoks: 6:20am On Apr 13, 2015
HARDDON:
Go read up history young blood.....

Is this the first time he is talking about corruption?

What happened to war against indiscipline n .....?

Why did Babangida chase him outa power?


At best, he wud end up wasting d lil ounch of fura-de-nono in his stale body fighting pseudo , lopesided corruption ghost that is even lining the fabrics of those he surrounds himself with already, leaving any development stride in d dust, b4 he realise, his tenure wud be over. Then Nigerians wud take to d streets again!

A chick that wud grw into a cock is spotted d first day it was hatched! With d bed he"s laid, all his talks are nan sense!
Well aged blood,I suspect you'll rather have the 'business as usual' snail pace so called development with the country mirred in corruption. The country voted to change this and at least GMB is taking a stand against it.He needs to be given a chance without the personal attacks.
Let's see what he does, then you can judge his actions.

"To think too long about doing a thing often becomes its undoing" has been the case of Nigeria for too long - let's change tact, and I think we have started.
PoliticsRe: Buhari Slams Iweala & Will Force Ministers To Declare Assets by btoks: 7:30pm On Apr 12, 2015
HARDDON:
N no one is even talking about developmental plans! No one is asking him if he wud halt d trains again!
No one is asking how he intends to stabilize power!

Hell, no one is talking!

He wud be a catastrophic failure!

Quote me in two years' . for a man with an elephant on his head has no biznes digging rats with his leg!


Soon u never learning from history Nigerians wud start raising dust again..... Wonder what d mantra wud be then"
Development plans hardly ever work with institutional corruption. This is why Nigeria hasn't had significant development in any sector over the years.When corruption is dealt with head on,you'll find things will fall into place.
Security,which is also a big issue and one of his priorities needs to be tackled.
Christianity EtcRe: A Thread For Catholics by btoks: 5:10am On Apr 12, 2015
Happy Easter season all and wishing you a blessed divine mercy sunday.
HealthRe: Combating Halitosis by btoks: 4:46am On Apr 12, 2015
Dentists also recommend using interdental sticks or brushes in addition to brushing and flossing.

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