Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus And The New Testament : A Closer Look. by budaatum: 3:06pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
sonmvayina: This is one of the deception of Christianity that I am talking about. We are God's breadth or spirit dwelling within a body made of dust.. When we die the breadth returns to God who gave it and the body back to dust who gave it.. Is that not why God gave us the laws so we can each and all have a meaningful human experience..the same fate awaits the sinner and Saint.. Really? How do you know this? And even though the fate of the saint and the sinner diverges right here on earth? How can a person who disobeys the law God gave have a meaningful experience? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 1:21am On Aug 16, 2020 |
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Family › Re: I Want To Give My Daughter Up For Adoption by budaatum: 1:02am On Aug 16, 2020 |
Or11: It's sad that that you have lived such life but I would say never give up your child. Especially a girl. Things may seem hard but would you want to make it harder for your child? You are going to regret it if you put her up for adoption. Better work hard and man up to your responsibility. The way you didn't ask to be born is the same way she didn't ask to be born. God bless you and may you find a solution without adoption. I borrow your very wise words because you say what I was going to say better. Thanks. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 12:41am On Aug 16, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus And The New Testament : A Closer Look. by budaatum: 10:23pm On Aug 15, 2020 |
sonmvayina: The gospel might contain some good advice and story I am not disproving that but why insist it was Gods plan or he is God son or messiah or sin sacrifice.. When none of these was ever prophesied by any prophet..
Why not present it like the vedas or the metu neter.... It will make more sense.. It is presented the best way those who presented it understood at the time to.present it hoping you will develop the ability to understand their presentation in due time. But instead of gratitude for their bothering to write the book the best they can and placing it in your hand for you to read to understand and gain knowledge and wisdom, you can't be bothered because some lazy people just like you say you must lazily believe it, and you are saying, those who bother to read it and understand and acquire the knowledge and wisdom therein shouldn't have bothered to gain such wisdom while at the same time refusing to admit if reading said book has benefitted you or not. What do you understand I mean by " ye, sonmvayina, shut up the kingdom of heaven against humans: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in"? |
Culture › Re: SHOCKING!!! Osun: Ruling House Declares Tablic Brother, 4 Others As Ritualist by budaatum: 10:05pm On Aug 15, 2020 |
You need to sort out your security certs! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus And The New Testament : A Closer Look. by budaatum: 9:55pm On Aug 15, 2020 |
sonmvayina: Hold on to your illusions.. There was never any need for the gospel..
All we need to do is set some laws and adhere to them.. So we can have a good and fruitful human experience.. And prevent chaos..
Every other thing is idolatry.. You must not understand that you are saying there was no need for more book. That all the book that was needed was the Torah, the same Torah that the Israelites use just to learn how to read the millions of other books that they write and read, which is precisely the evil that Christ was written to heal by having fantastic and fabulous stories attached to the Word of God so other Words of God can be placed in your own hands to be read so you learn and your eyes open with understanding of the immenseness of God. But you, sonmvayina, can not be bothered, because you can not see it benefit others just as you refuse to confront yourself with the answer to the question I asked you. I wonder why, as you will no doubt. C.f.: https://www.nairaland.com/5978597/skepticism-vs-zombiesm-which-good/3#92124496
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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 8:48pm On Aug 15, 2020 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 8:45pm On Aug 15, 2020 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 4:23pm On Aug 15, 2020 |
obixcel: It is also common sense for People to exercise their freedom and rights - Joe doesn't care about Rights. All Governments should respect the rights of their citizens, No one should be forced. I agree. So whats that thing about abortions and force, again? |
Sports › Re: FORMULA ONE F1 Official SeasonThread - Revamped by budaatum: 10:17am On Aug 15, 2020 |
FBS: We all know how he won so tey he couldn't wait to run away. Nah. That ain't a champion in my books or in anybody's books sef. He is in my book. |
Sports › Re: FORMULA ONE F1 Official SeasonThread - Revamped by budaatum: 10:16am On Aug 15, 2020 |
A40: Which would be weird considering they still need him to be competitive else he doesn't get renewed. So why would they deliberately not have him competing on equal footing
If not that the Mercs are laughably faster than the rest at this point I doubt Bottas would be inside the top 3 They don't t need him on equal footing with Hamilton, or they'd always be fighting for the same tarmac and ruin each other's chances as happened in 2007 when Raikkonen beat him and Alonso by one point. I doubt Hamilton will be top 3 without a Merc engine. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus And The New Testament : A Closer Look. by budaatum: 9:58am On Aug 15, 2020 |
sonmvayina: When did God instruct us to believe in the things you believe about Jesus? God never instructed anyone to believe anything at all, not since Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. sonmvayina: I don't believe the story, I learn the messages in the story.. All the stories in the Bible are all lies, the letter killeth.. I learn the messages in them.. The Torah is not a history textbook.. It is a manual to guide my step. Like a lamp.. Bravo, except the "lies" bit, which is due to your misunderstanding. The entire Bible is "a manual to guide my step. Like a lamp". It is not for believing, but for one to help one seek understanding, but your assumption of already knowing it all, which is more than you actually do know, is a barrier to your learning, which makes you a sort those who read the Gospels have read a lot about and would know you are going to Damascus to develop the abilities that will make you understand. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus And The New Testament : A Closer Look. by budaatum: 9:38am On Aug 15, 2020 |
sonmvayina: Maybe you don't understand the purpose of this thread yet.. Let me remind you.. I am saying without all conviction that there was never any need for the Jesus story as God has already provided everything in the Tanakh.. They Jesus is a Roman creation..i am not an atheist.
I just obey God's laws as contained in our omenani or Torah.. And leave my life.. Because at the end of the day.. My body will be committed to mother earth and my spirit back to God, because he gave it... I am yet to find how Jesus fits into all these..? And I am simply asking if reading the entire Bible has been of no benefit to you, while recognising that you have absolutely no understanding of Jesus and none of how reading about him has affected your life, nor most importantly any understanding nor regard for the immense work done by the hands that love you more than any other hands on this earth that placed stories of Jesus in your hands. A smarter person would at least wonder "why, mummy?" Do you really "obey God's laws as contained in your omenani or Torah"? Is the following in the Torah? Honour your father and mother that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God has given thee. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus And The New Testament : A Closer Look. by budaatum: 12:32pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
sonmvayina: My mum.. The person who gave you life and loves you the most on this cruel earth gave you a copy of probably the only book she had and very likely the biggest, which she likely read to you from when you were inside her womb and long after you were born and taught you to read yourself, and because you cannot see how it has benefitted others who read it "But yiu just short ur brain down" and can not be bothered? Bothered to believe or understand, since we've established you read it, or does the difference not matter? kkins25: This constitute issues of subjectivity of the inquirer, fore the inquirer can only grasp the BEING of the DOG that the inquirers Mind or level of understanding permits the inquirer to grasp |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus And The New Testament : A Closer Look. by budaatum: 12:19pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
Sonmvayina, you have acquired a lot of facts and think what you know is everything but you have not yet begun to develop understanding of what you know and therefore have quite a lot to learn. There is nothing you wrote below that has not been written a hundred times on NL so I can't see why you'd think you are the first to inform us that Euseubius (260AD-340) wrote a history. I bet you haven't got a copy of it. Read below what modern scholarship makes of him, and remind yourself how many years after Christ he was writing his subjective biased history and let us know how it informs your reasoning. The question you fail to ask, however is, Why? As in why would all those people you mentioned go to all that bother to place this one book in your hands? Are you reaping no benefit from the Word of God that you read?budaatum: Without the Grace and all the effort that placed in your hands the Words of God so you can read and learn to question and seek understanding, you, sonmvayina, would have been one super ignorant dude and you would not be "stay home with my wife and daughter watching Telemundo or any good programme....
So.. It is going smoothly".
Yes or No? sonmvayina: Judaism happens to be the national religion of the jews, this religion, Was created by Ezra after their Babylonian exile. Marduk told Cyrus to free all his captives. Ezra was asked to write the Torah and take it along to teach the jews.. Much of the stories in there were adaptation from the Babylonian epics.. Marduk is the creator of the universe hence he used king nebochadnezzer to bring his people to Babylon to learn about him..as nebochadnezzer was also his messiah.. Or annioted king.. Babylon was also the center of several cults and much of these was also taken along to Jerusalem. One of this cult is the cult of inanna or queen of heaven.. She is lucifer and morning star or venus.. When Rome became world power, the ceasers tried to consolidate and increase the empire and most of these wars had religious implications..
It was emperor Constantine who saw that religion was a big stumbling block in achieving domination gathered all the religious leaders in the empire to nicea to fashion a single religion for the empire. So many gods where tabled for consideration, after almost 2 years of deliberations they settled for Marduk... But in the Babylonian tales Marduk was the son of Enki.. So they had to find out the relationship between both.. Some said he was God, others said he was man.. So after much in other to satisfy both Athanasius said he was both God and man... A vote was taken and the majority carried the day.. Afterwards the nicean creed was drawn up and endorsed by all but 3 delegates.. Who declined.
From the ancient Babylonian scriptures eusebius was commanded to prepare a uniform account. "make it to astonish.. Was emperor Constantine order and they where written accordingly.. So says eusebius in his history of the church...
http://www.bobkwebsite.com/belmythvjesusmyth.html |
Business › Re: Why Shoprite Is “exiting” Nigeria by budaatum: 11:33am On Aug 14, 2020*. Modified: 11:51am On Aug 14, 2020 |
The unseen problem of shoprite was its lack of vision to see how to solve its currency problems by increasing local spending and reducing foreign currency dependency.
It could have manufactured in Nigeria for instance, and pay local wages, but they imported most of their stuff which was silly for a country the size of Nigeria.
I can't wait for someone smart to crack the Nigerian mall market experience.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 11:12am On Aug 14, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by budaatum: 10:55am On Aug 14, 2020 |
SonofLincoln: Bunch of losers they are. They have this Right wing loonie lawyer saying that Sen Harris father and mother were immigrants and by that she's not a Natural born American forgeting Ted Cruz of Texas who is a Republican was born in Canada by a Canadian father and an American mother. He renounced his Canadian Citizenship when he was running for President in 2016. Late Republican Senator John McCain was born in Panama by American parents while his father was serving in the Navy and lost in 2008 to Obama. See the crazy deplorables we are dealing with in America. These are the lowest creatures at the bottom of the oceans. MrPresident1: Buda for eartum aka budaatum, what do you have to say about sleepy Joe's chances and his choice of Mrs Kamala of Uganda? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus And The New Testament : A Closer Look. by budaatum: 10:40am On Aug 14, 2020 |
sonmvayina: Just say there is none... So I can educate you where the Roman's got the idea from and why they super glued it to the Jewish scriptures.. Did you not read I said there's nothing like that in the book? Note that you still have not answered my question and have never said if reading it made you less intelligent! Go on, where did the Roman's get the idea from and why they super glued it to the Jewish scriptures? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus And The New Testament : A Closer Look. by budaatum: 10:34am On Aug 14, 2020 |
sonmvayina: I never said I have never read it, I said I have never owned one.. Big difference.. So who's copy did you read? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jim Bakker To Christians: You Must Love Trump To Prove You're 'Saved' by budaatum: 2:21am On Aug 14, 2020 |
solite3: The present Jewish state is a trojan horse to decieve the gullible. The kingdom of Israel will be establish by Jesus Christ when he comes back not the beast system currently dictating things. Show where it says Jesus Christ will establish a kingdom of Israel! Verses of the Kingdom Jesus will establish. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 11:23pm On Aug 13, 2020 |
Minent: Just like yesterday
I remember.
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Webmasters › Re: Dear Seun, Nairaland Needs A 'dislike' Button For Users To Express Displeasure by budaatum: 11:06pm On Aug 13, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Mind Of A Bible Researcher by budaatum: 10:38pm On Aug 13, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus And The New Testament : A Closer Look. by budaatum: 10:23pm On Aug 13, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus And The New Testament : A Closer Look. by budaatum: 9:34pm On Aug 13, 2020 |
sonmvayina: Am I obligated to believe them? When it can't improve me in any way.. I read or listen to gain knowledge even when I am in a pub.. Obligated? Someone is asking you to refuse to use your own well developed mind and just believe that God impregnated another man's wife? Show me them so I can join my boot and we can kick them together after we finish looking into your reasons for your weak feeling of obligation. Just one question. Do you see any relationship to what you say below? sonmvayina: I want us to agree on what man is and what God is.. "Let us (God the father +God the mother) create man.... Man is made of spirit +body.. God the father provided the spirit and God the mother provided the body.....hence God proclaimed"my spirit shall not dwell with man forever." Any impregnating there at all? sonmvayina: Not when your asking me to believe that God impregnated another man's wife... That is bull shit and you know it.. But yiu just short ur brain down.. To accept it.. I don't see any reason to.. I wonder what you see.. Let us get one thing straight. buda does not tell anyone to do what buda would never ever do. It is you who has not bothered to read the book. buda bothers and in it is it clearly written that believing is a thing demons do. See it written: www.nairaland.com/attachments/11663600_20200604102351774_jpeg_jpeg0a6707a5c919e2761327fab9920679aaAs you can see, it makes one tremble in fear, and is not exactly worth emulating unless one intends to worship the opposite if God. You may read my view here on believing here. https://www.nairaland.com/5907043/why-dont-believe-everything-read#90363647 But I guess you never read the book before coming on here to tell us the book you never bothered to read is of no benefit. sonmvayina: Funny enough I have never owned a Bible in my entire life.. I don't see the benefit of those who have.. So, "yiu just short ur brain down" and do not read a book but think you qualify to come on here and discuss the benefit of a book you never read? Can somebody here please confirm that sonmvayina has not been mentioning the content of a book he never read.sonmvayina: My answer: enjoy it. Some others answer: Improve it. www.nairaland.com/attachments/12117449_20200809145758252_jpeg_jpeg937a481dd9a596b8350dc6866c20baa8Though I don't know why I bother since you never bothered reading the book. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 6:52pm On Aug 13, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus And The New Testament : A Closer Look. by budaatum: 6:32pm On Aug 13, 2020 |
sonmvayina: Who sent him Those who wrote the book you read at the very least, plus all those who have worked all the way through the centuries to place it in your two hands. Now, answer my question. Are you reaping no benefit from the Word of God that you read? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus And The New Testament : A Closer Look. by budaatum: 6:15pm On Aug 13, 2020 |
sonmvayina: So if man is made of God's spirit + dust from the earth, what is Jesus coming to save!? He has come as the Words that you must read to come to the understanding that you have come to which is why: sonmvayina: Yes oh.. I don't disrespect my parents I don't have sex with another man's wife, I don't steal, I don't bear false witness, I don't desire what is not mine.. I don't kill, I take Saturday off I don't go anywhere, I stay home with my wife and daughter watching Telemundo or any good programme....
So.. It is going smoothly.. Without the Grace and all the effort that placed in your hands the Words of God so you can read and learn to question and seek understanding, you, sonmvayina, would have been one super ignorant dude and you would not be "stay home with my wife and daughter watching Telemundo or any good programme.... So.. It is going smoothly". Yes or No? |
Christianity Etc › Re: To the atheist, what do you think? by budaatum: 6:04pm On Aug 13, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Is This The True Love Jesus Taught Or Just A Secret Cult Love? by budaatum: 5:16pm On Aug 13, 2020*. Modified: 6:05pm On Aug 13, 2020 |
Maximus69: The bolded is what's causing all the problems in false religion!
Do you know that most religionsists are so lazy even to the point that they can't pray on their own? Well that's why they're running to professional prayer masters (Bàbá Aládúrà) to pray for them, so whenever they see anyone even though they never knew him/her before, they'll say "pray for us"  That's why Jehovah's Witnesses will never pray for them but teach them how to pray just as we will never give beggars money but teach them how to make money!  And to make it worse they will claim the Bible they read told them they should not work despite very clearly being told otherwise! Anyone following Christ who does not consider the "work being plenty" should seriously consider if they worship God through Christ with the Holy Spirit or something else.
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