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Ishilove:
Fast and pray for wisdom to choose right

You know how little I eat already but you ask me to fast? You must not love me, Ishi!

Praying for wisdom, however is what I'm doing here. You can see all the wonderful amazing Angels the Lord already sent to minister to me.

Xposed2020:
pseudo names of Christians now.
Abi you have never gone for interview with a Jewish Christian from that side claiming Mohammed & in fact your LGA that you know there are no such species.

We might be asking him to overuse his brain when its obvious he knows not how to.

ANTIlSLAM:
No evidence to back up your lies

You call your lies evidence.

ANTIlSLAM:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-48107591

Can you not read?

budaatum:
Show me any Nigerian arrested for drug trafficking in Israel. There'd after all have to be one to be rescued before Buhari can actually rescue them.

ANTIlSLAM:
Show me one Christian among them

I'd say don't be silly, but I'm sure that's a waste of my time. Go through your list and mark out non-muslim names yourself, or go ask them. Some might have Muslim names but not be Muslims, or travelled using a false passports, after all, if you are going to traffic drugs what stops you getting a fake passport using an assumed name?

ANTIlSLAM:
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/africa/nigeria/names-of-23-nigerians-facing-execution-in-saudi-arabia-pop-up/ar-AAGja4W

Not all those listed are Muslims, but as I said, do not ignorantly traffic drugs to where they would behead you when caught.

ANTIlSLAM:
Ode, you are comparing Saudi Arabia with Ghana just imagine

I never mentioned Ghana, not to talk of compare Ghana with Saudi Arabia.

gnykelly:
that's a lie.

30% are Christians in Saudi Arabia

Note how no evidence was provided.

ANTIlSLAM:
Show me A Christian Buhari rescue for drug trafficking in the hand of Israeli Government? I will show you many Muslims buhari rescue in saudi Arabia

Show me any Nigerian arrested for drug trafficking in Israel. There'd after all have to be one to be rescued before Buhari can actually rescue them.

qwertyboss:
It's self explanatory!

To intelligent you, perhaps. Please have mercy on those who are not intelligent like you must be and explain.

ANTIlSLAM:
Na Buhari dey rescue ur people from Saudi government for drug trafficking when it is time for Saudi government to behead ur people that go on holy Pilgrimage Buhari will come to there rescue. Awon Eranko

The same Buhari rescues drug traffickers in US? Europe? Turkey? Or are those not my people too? Or is your issue the beheading?

My people should perhaps learn not to traffic drugs to Saudi Arabia if they do not want to be beheaded.

ANTIlSLAM:
Asinwin you're Not ignorance to have lower Saudi atabia with Ghana abi

Your lack of ignorance is obvious, no doubt.

Xposed2020:
You are not as educated as I thought.
John 26:39 was an event that occurred before the crucifixion & not during or after.
Why was he saying eli eli lama . . .?

You must be correct. Please educate me by posting John 26:39, so we can correct this ignorance.

ANTIlSLAM:
Oniranu how many Nigeria Christian pilgrim government of Israel has beheaded for drug trafficking? Odeson oponu omo

I mean, see your ignorant self.

We dey talk No Church in Saudi Arabia na another thing u dey talk.. Who do dis to u? Tani o so e di radarada bayii?

ANTIlSLAM:
We dey talk No Church in Saudi Arabia na another thing u dey talk.. Who do dis to u? Tani o so e di radarada bayii?

I can understand why you woukd wish to limit the conversation since it would allow you to pass off ignorance as knowledge, but thankfully, we are not all ignorant, uninformed and narrow minded like you.

Xposed2020:
maybe I am lazy, too ignorant, beat my wife, kill unbelievabers.

You may very well be and do all those things, but I very much doubt you'd claim Allah told you to do those things, I hope.

qwertyboss:
12 others?
I see the problem!

Share please, so I too may see the problem you see.

Xposed2020:
Do you believe in John 1:1?

I do not believe anything. buda prefers to understand.

You might want to read my opinion on John 1 here. Questions are welcome.

Xposed2020:
Can you please explain what Jesus was doing in Matthew 26:39?

Jesus was feeling the pain of being beaten, spat on, made to carry a heavy cross and having nails driven through his hands and feet. He is human like you and I after all, and its not as if the Being he was crying out to was the one who inflicted all that pain on him.

If he had wanted to beg for his life he should and very likely would have done so in front of Pilate or avoided being captured in the first place since he knew he was going to be [url=https://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+9%3A44-50&version=NIV]delivered into the hands of men and be killed[/url].

qwertyboss:
Please go and grab a "King James version "

I have already grabbed the King James Version and 12 other versions.

Xposed2020:
this ur argument should be with the authors of the Bible and not me.
As I said earlier, eyewitnesses can be two or more.
I did not claim anything.
Kindly interpret John 10:20.

One can not interpret a single verse in isolation of the rest of a book unless one is too lazy to read the whole book or too ignorant to understand one's reading in its context.

If one does, interpret a single verse in isolation of the rest of a book, Muslims would justify wife beating or unbeliever killing with single verses in a book, but as a Muslim, I hope you do not beat your wife nor kill unbelievers.

Do let me know if I'm wrong about you please.

qwertyboss:
Ignore that creature!
He is a blatant lier!
They are the propagators of falsehood to sow hatred amongst humans...

If he is a blatant liar, that's a reason not to ignore since one should not remain silent so blatant lies are all that are spread and eventually believed.

Besides, Blessed are the Peacemakers.

Xposed2020:
Did he murder innocent souls as god or not?
So it is a fact he killed. All these holy shit has been disproved. At least you have now accept Jesus was bloody & bloodier than any slave of human on earth.
Now that I have proved beyond reasonable doubt that Jesus was the bloodiest creature that ever liveth the face of the earth, Islam will now see peace from the hypocrites demeaning Islam while praising the most dangerous religion of jesus.

Are you sure you read the Bible?

Please show where it is written that Jesus killed anyone.

Xposed2020:
Taqiya of biblical Commandments.

You have finally admit it that the Bible says Muslims like myself should be killed as we are regarded as idol worshippers.
This is wonderfulous!

No, Xposed, that person has not admitted "that the Bible says Muslims like myself should be killed as we are regarded as idol worshippers"!

What that person has shown is ignorance of the Bible, period!

You might want to see here how the Quran is ignorantly being used to justify wife beating and the killing of unbelievers.

tintingz:
Doesn't change the fact that violence was encouraged in the Qur'an and any group can justify their actions with it. Good that you admit there are contradictions, isn't this problematic as anyone can just cherry pick anything and justify it with it?

Indeed their are contradictions, and its those contradictions that make the book valuable and which ought to make one sceptical of any one verse and therefore seek deeper understanding instead of just being a zombified ignorant believer who feels encouraged to violence by one single verse. I mean, would one not need to square the circle of the contradictory verses about fighting unbelievers with those that say no compulsion, or beat your wife with protect your wife?

Zombies justify their violence with the Quran, while thinking intelligent Quran readers know different.

Xposed2020:
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Ignorant people take one verse and make out its the entire Bible. More ignorant people take parts of verses or single phrases.

You hopefully see the next line that indicates submission to his faith.

Xposed2020:
If you have problem with the quantity or the witnesses, direct you grievances to the authors of the Bible.
Thank you.

I don't have any problem with the quantity since its clear that only many of the few that were there said what you claimed. Any proper reasoning individual would understand those "many" are a minority as far as the total number of Jews who thought otherwise would have been concerned.

Tamaratonye5:
Yes but whatever that something is, science can not identify. Science also can not completely rule out a deity, but hasn’t found any evidence that one exists either. If science does find that a god exists, I dont know if it will be any of the gods people believe in today.

Science and physics can not prove a soul exists either, and nothing has proved that consciousness can exist outside the brain. So once the brain dies that’s probably it.

I am in no way claiming anything whatsoever about a deity or a soul, Tamaratonye5. I am simply pointing out the error of treating science like religious people treat their holy books.

The fact is we do not know what might have existed prior to the big bang, and science, or rather, humans have not yet used their scientific abilities to look so far back, which is why good scientists like the one in your video will always say "as far as we know". But claiming there was nothing to go bang is the invocation of Gods.

tintingz:
Let me ask so that I won't be wasting my time.

Do you believe the Qur'an is words of Allah?

buda is not a believer in anything, tingz, and prefers to understand instead since believing is unthinking and requires a lack of sceptism which buda happens to have imbibed massive doses of.

A more accurate question to ask someone like buda would be, What does it mean to say the Quran is the Word of Allah? Which I would answer though you have not asked.

I wonder if you are familiar with the Temptation of Christ where satan tempted Jesus with quotes from the Bible? That story shows how words in a book of God can be twisted in such a way that they become the words of satan, just as some do with the words in the Quran.

To say the Quran is the Word of Allah is to say that one has a viewpoint that makes one's understanding conform with one's idea of Allah. If ones understanding of Allah is wisdom and mercy ones understanding of the Quran will be a wise and merciful, and if one's understanding of Allah is that of an ignorant tyrant, one will be ignorant and tyranical.

The Quran itself is merely words in a book until one breathes the breathe of understanding into them.

tintingz:
Like I said if Islam is very anti-violence like Jainism and Buddhism, there won't be justifications for terrorism actions, infact I won't associate terrorism with Islam because there won't be anything to justify with it.

Yet, there are many Jainists and Buddhists who justify their terrorism with their Jainist and Buddhist understandings, despite the religion itself promoting pacifism.

Read about Jainist terrorism here.

And Buddhist terrorism here.

tintingz:
If I believe in God the absolutely perfect being then I've to follow anything he commands, remember Abraham story that try to slaughter his SON, he obeyed God because God is the supreme perfect being!

Was Abraham ignorant?

The Qur'an is said to be from God(Allah), anything in the Qur'an is a command from the perfect being.

Once you disregard all the knowledge about how the Quran came into existence and believe the Quran came from God, you are already zombified and ignorant. If you applied a tiny amount of skeptism, you'd likely know otherwise. Please see The Origins of the Qur'an so you'd know what unignorant Muslims might be aware of.

It is my opinion that the conduct of Abraham in that story was that of an ignorant person who wisened up before committing what most of us would have seen as unintelligent. If I were to do what Abraham is written to have done, you'd call me ignorant, even if I did not go threw with slaughtering my son. But do please correct me if I am wrong about you.

Xposed2020:
I said eyewitness if I am not mistaken.

"Jesus was a mad man & possessed with demon according to eyewitness" . . . (xposed2020, 2020).

John 10:20
Many of them said, “He is demon-possessed and insane. Why would you listen to Him?”

So don't quote me out of context.

Point is, they were a few, and even if most of us here say you are mad, we can all be wrong.