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Christianity Etc › Re: Could It Be Satan Vs God by budaatum: 3:01am On Jul 26, 2020

Kobojunkie:
We still don't have enough information to make that judgment at this time.

What information would do you suggest we use to make that judgement when the time is right?

Islam › Re: Skepticism Vs Zombiesm - Which Is Good? by budaatum: 2:57am On Jul 26, 2020*

tintingz:
I Agree to some of what you said but the Bible have issues with people that question.

I really can not stand the language you use here. It sounds like the Bible has an opinion about what people do! Perhaps you mean the preachers don't like people asking questions. But I would say those preachers are ignorant and don't want people to know they are unable to answer questions so they'd rather you not ask. [url=https://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Luke+11:37%E2%80%9311:54&version=nrsv]Woe[/url], Christ said to such people, 8 times!

The Bible is a book. Reading any book is an art of questioning so as answer the question, "what is written in this book", and anyone who reads the Bible will ask the very fundamental questions, "what does what I read mean?" And if they do not ask, it will be difficult for them to acquire understanding of what they read.

Not many, on first reading Jesus was born by a virgin, for instance, just say, okay, since it defies what they should know about getting pregnant. Intelligent people are likely to ask, "how", or "what does that mean".

tintingz:
Even Jesus cursed the people that questioned him, same for the Pharisees that hate Jesus for questioning them because one doesn't question the Jewish scriptures. The Bible has to do with whose belief should be superior not that they want to establish a knowledge like how the Greek philosophers did by attacking and countering themselves with very logical questions.

Please show me one single verse in the Bible where Jesus cursed people for asking questions, I am not quite familiar with that.

If you go to theology school where I live, you'd need to learn Greek Philosophy so that you know the art of rhetoric. It involves asking questions, and Christianity has thrived only because questions are asked or we'd still be in the dark ages. Judaism itself is a religion of questioning, which is why modern day Israelites have developed as much as they have. By questioning, they learn and advance and evolve.

tintingz:
The Bible has to do with whose belief should be superior not that they want to establish a knowledge like how the Greek philosophers did by attacking and countering themselves with very logical questions.

The Bible has nothing to do with who's belief should be superior, and actually has bits in it that say fuq your belief! A clear example of this is where it clearly states that there is not much merit in belief because even demons believe and tremble.

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Another is my favourite Parable of the Orangutan.

budaatum:
In reply Jesus said: “A man was stuck in a river".

"A photographer stood there taking photos while an orangutan saved the man".

“Which of these do you think was a neighbor to the man stuck in a river?”

The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

Jesus told him, “[url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+10%3A25-37&version=NIV]Go and do likewise[/url].”

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In the original Parable of the Good Samaritan, the Priest and the Levite refused to help the beaten man because of their belief. It was the Pagan unbelieving Samaritan that Christ said "go and emulate". The pity is most don't question and research for answers so don't quite get that Jesus chose a pagan non-God worshipper and said "Go and do likewise".

In all honesty, only people who have not actually read the book wouldn't notice and wonder why Christ himself used questions as a teaching tool so much, yet expects one not to question, as you claim. If you truly understand the Gospels, you would find that Jesus actually requires you question or some priests will give you scorpions when you asked for bread.

I think you are stating how you've seen Christianity practised and think that is what is written in the book itself, hence your "Bible have issues with people that question", and your "Jesus cursed the people that questioned him". But as I said in my previous, one should not determine a religion by actions of the so called religious, because they might not be following what the book says. Its what I mean when I say The Muslim practise of some, like boko haram, is not Islam, just as thieves are definitely not practising Christianity even if they bow down and pray to Jesus before going off to steal.

By the fruits that people produce do we know if they worship God, and not by the crap beliefs inside their heads, so the skeptic will go check the source to determine if the religious are worshipping God the way it is written in the book, but of course the skeptic must first understand the book before judging others. Or they'll be judging ignorantly.

Below is Jesus in his own words:

"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened."

"Ask", "seek", "knock", all mean question question question till you find answers.

P.s. Sorry it's long. I've cut half out so its only this long.

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Islam › Re: Skepticism Vs Zombiesm - Which Is Good? by budaatum: 2:43am On Jul 26, 2020

tintingz:
How?
I hope you know what "no true Scotsman" is?

You love your fallacies, I see. No, I don't know what true scotsman is. Elaborate please.

You decided you knew all there was to know about the the subject and were unwilling to consider other views and opinions presented to you. That is absolutism, a lack of sceptism, and is exactly what you said religious people do - make up their minds and shut their eyes to contradictory information. It however delights me that you've taken a step backwards and reinstated your sceptism with the questions you've asked.

tintingz:
You always give this argument that muslims are not practicing Islam and I've argue with you on this many times. So please which Muslims are practicing Islam? Give example of the true sect and why you think they're the true muslims?

Not all Muslims are not practising Islam. Some actually read the book and adhere to its teachings as closely as they possibly can, but some Muslims obviously don't read or understand the Quran and don't know the practices so can only practise what they've been told is in the book. As I suggested, boko haram are Muslims, but they are not practising the Islam that most others do. Some Muslims would even go further and say boko haram are not Muslims. Or do you think the Islam that boko haram practise is a proper understanding of what's in the book?

The divide is not by sect, however. People of different sects can be practising Islam while others in the same sect might not be. In Christianity those who claim to practise but actually don't are referred to as [url=https://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7%3A21-23&version=NIV]Lordists[/url], to whom it would be said, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

Islam › Re: Skepticism Vs Zombiesm - Which Is Good? by budaatum: 1:30am On Jul 26, 2020

tintingz:
Unfortunately Religious people needs scholars to interpret the scriptures for them.

Some religious people, and not all.

Some don't need the brainwashing and actually read and understand the book themselves.

Christianity Etc › Re: Could It Be Satan Vs God by budaatum: 1:13am On Jul 26, 2020

Kobojunkie:
Again, you cannot simply say that because Canada has a lower death toll means Canada indeed handled this more wisely than the US government did. There needs to be more indicators to measure this and so far, every country is still working to understand the situation. Maybe a year or two from now, we can sit and harsh out the details and point out what worked, how and what definitely did not.
Forget what the media and politicians are doing here in America right now. We all know this is election year and mud-slinging is a tradition to be expected.

Mud slinging or not, would you agree that handling this correctly means minimising fatality rates? If not, what criteria would you suggest we use to measure "handling it right"?

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Is Madness by budaatum: 10:20pm On Jul 25, 2020

MuttleyLaff:
"[i]¹⁰and the Devil, who is leading them astray,
was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where are the beast and the false prophet,
and they shall be tormented day and night -- to the ages of the ages.

Sounds like the Bible is evidence to you, and if its written in the Bible, its necessarily so.

Do note that buda is not wired in such a way that what is written in a book trump understanding or facts.

Islam › Re: Skepticism Vs Zombiesm - Which Is Good? by budaatum: 10:14pm On Jul 25, 2020

tintingz:
What's your point here?

Do you need a pastor or imam to interpret it to you? If not, ask specific questions about the bits you don't understand and I might be able to help you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Six Christian Families In India Issued Ultimatum To Renounce Their Faith by budaatum: 9:50pm On Jul 25, 2020

rationalhuman:
Fake, Those people in Jharkhand are Native Tribal, They are not Hindus but they have their own religion Sarna.

Thanks for this. The op is known to post fake propaganda so I'm not surprised his source is about the only one for his post. I did find the following though, which might be the source of his lies.

Non-Christian Adivasis in Jharkhand, who worship Nature and are opposed to idol worship, appear to be upset at attempts by the RSS and the Vishwa Hindu Parishad to collect soil from ‘Sarna Sthal’ for offerings at the proposed Ram Temple in Ayodhya on August 5.

Following a meeting on Friday of the adherents of the ‘Sarna Dharma’, a call has been given to foil the attempts of the RSS and the VHP. Shiva Kacchap heading the ‘Central Adivasi Sena’ informed the media that the meeting was attended by various tribal bodies including Adivasi Sangharsh Morcha and Parha Samajik Utthan Sansthan. The priests or the Pahans, he said, had been advised to stop VHP supporters from reaching the Sarna Sthal and desecrate the place of worship.

https://www.nationalheraldindia.com/india/non-christian-adivasis-in-jharkhand-warn-rss-and-vhp-against-co-opting-them-as-hindus

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Politics › Re: The Emergence Of A New Africa Leadership And by budaatum: 9:38pm On Jul 25, 2020

I'm beginning to think it's the people who are led that is the problem, and not the people who lead.

If the people knew where they wanted to be led, they'd chose a leader who could lead them there.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Reincarnation : A Second Go by budaatum: 9:32pm On Jul 25, 2020

sonmvayina:
What did I say differently each of us has a mission here on earth.. Not everyone get to complete in one life time.. Hence they have another go or chance.. Til they achieve the God Conciousness..

The unfortunate thing here is while you are on to a very interesting topic, you do not seem to have the desire to explore it with rigour.

The person who wrote what you think is no different to what you wrote, is very precise in his word use, and unlike you, he does not assume reincarnation is possible. If you read it slowly, as you advise I should, you'd notice his "at least, potentially", which does not mean the same as "possibly" nor "potentially".

If you are willing to explore the subject further, consider reading his The Archetypes and The Collective Unconscious (Collected Works of C.G. Jung Vol.9 Part 1)

It's about £32, but you can dowload a free copy here.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Reincarnation : A Second Go by budaatum: 8:47pm On Jul 25, 2020

sonmvayina:
Read through the original post again... This time slowly..

I think you should read your own original post, slowly, so you can see how many assumptions are in it.

When you are done learning what assumptions are, perhaps you'd be able to intelligently discuss the subject of your original post.

Here's something to start you off. And, good luck.

http://box5415.temp.domains/~sacreeh5/2013/06/07/carl-jung-on-rebirth-resurrection-metempsychosis/

Career › Re: Should I Expose Them? by budaatum: 8:39pm On Jul 25, 2020

Abbeylanre15:
Nothing... What do you expect?

Nothing, is what I expected, once you've told the boss. Well done.

Politics › Re: Why I Want To Delete My Nairaland Account. by budaatum: 7:56pm On Jul 25, 2020

Who is going to promote your opinion after you deactivate, or is it that your opinion matters so little to you that you are willing to let opposing views deactivate you?

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Education › Re: Converting A Theist (still In Progress) by budaatum: 7:48pm On Jul 25, 2020

Ishilove:
Buda, you're too tit obsessed to be a woman. I have very sizeable tits meself but they don't hold much fascination for me. Only a man and a lesbian will be fascinated with tits. I'm not even sure lesbians are fascinated with tits seeing as they have a pair of their own.

Come be lesbian with buda and find out.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 7:45pm On Jul 25, 2020

PremierGuy:
It is going to be interesting if Trump loses Florida, the state he planned to retire to...

One good thing about trumpists is their belief in their own lies and conspiracies which means they can't possibly be facing reality.

Hopefully, they will not smell the roses until it's too late.

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Education › Re: Converting A Theist (still In Progress) by budaatum: 7:39pm On Jul 25, 2020

TheSourcerer:
I don't want to. As long as my message is passed

The message buda receives is Sourcerer is just intentionally being rude.

Christianity Etc › Re: Reincarnation : A Second Go by budaatum: 7:37pm On Jul 25, 2020*

sonmvayina:
Reincarnate... Not resurrect.. Big difference..

Still assumptions.

Define reincarnation. Then show me one single instance of reincarnation and I'll change my mind.

Christianity Etc › Re: Yoruba Version Of Life After Death. It Is Logical And Scientific by budaatum: 7:33pm On Jul 25, 2020

ultron12345:
My questions to the Christians who will soon storm this thread to call this crap is:

How do you know this concept of reincarnation is wrong while your concept of heaven and hell is right ?

Christianity Etc › Re: Reincarnation : A Second Go by budaatum: 7:05pm On Jul 25, 2020

sonmvayina:
Does that look like an assumption?..

You begin with the assumption that humans resurrect without providing evidence for your claim, despite me asking for some, then you assume a reason for human resurrection that you assumed.

Doesn't it look like assumptions to you?

Career › Re: Should I Expose Them? by budaatum: 7:02pm On Jul 25, 2020

Abbeylanre15:
Most of them were transferred to a post with lesser responsibilities.. Some allies were separated.

And you? What happened to you?

Christianity Etc › Re: Reincarnation : A Second Go by budaatum: 6:48pm On Jul 25, 2020

sonmvayina:
Read from there to the end... The answer to your question lies therein..

I already did read to the end, including the other assumptions in the op.

What is the evidence for the following assumption?

This is why we often find ourselves powerfully drawn to a particular cause and make it the focus of our lives, dedicating to it a seemingly disproportionate part of our time and energy: it is our soul gravitating to the “missing pieces” of its divinely ordained purpose.

Politics › Re: Northarn Youths Are So Quiet And Docile by budaatum: 6:44pm On Jul 25, 2020

I think you might be focusing on the few graduates, and fail to see all the majority of Northern youths who are not quiet and docile and hankering for change by coming down South to better themselves.

C.f. If There’ll Be A Revolution In Nigeria, The Almajiris Not Bbnaija-loving Youths

Christianity Etc › Re: We Mistake Righteous Lies To Lie by budaatum: 6:39pm On Jul 25, 2020

A person who lies has something to hide, and I doubt the righteous have things to hide.

Do note though that buda is not righteous.

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Politics › Re: Twitter Influencer, Imam Of Peace Calls For Buhari’s Arrest by budaatum: 6:35pm On Jul 25, 2020

The question here is, has this twitter influencer influenced you, but I guess we'd find out when an influenced person arrests Buhari.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Is Madness by budaatum: 6:30pm On Jul 25, 2020

MuttleyLaff:
Why are you evading and outrightly avoiding using the word devil, to say, if the devil is evil or the devil is not evil, hmm? Commit to saying whether the devil is evil or the devil is not evil.

There is an underlying assumption you seem to take for granted with your question, which I do not, which is that an entity called devil actually exists.

A non-existing thing can not be good nor evil, and you'd find the entity you call devil always has a human agent through whom it seems to work, which just makes me think it is humans abrogating responsibility for the evil they themselves do.

MuttleyLaff:
You haven't factor in, eventuality(ies) that will make the prospect of having that potato to eat, become a bygone absolute irrefutable faith. Say the authorities, due to an emergency and health & safety, demand you all immediately vacate your property and street, and do so without taking anything out. Pop, goes your plan, to eat that potato.

I think you misunderstand. I took everything into consideration, including the known fact that it is unlikely "emergency and health & safety, demand you all immediately vacate your property and street", since it is a rare occurrence where I live. All the same, my potato baked, I ate it, I am not hungry so my faith was justified.

Hopefully, evidence, as in, the facts, trump anything you or I decide to cook up in our heads and believe.

Christianity Etc › Re: Reincarnation : A Second Go by budaatum: 6:10pm On Jul 25, 2020

sonmvayina:
At times, a soul may not conclude its mission in a single lifetime. In such cases, it returns to earth for a “second go” to complete the job.

Quite a lot of assuming going on here! What evidence do you have for the above for instance?

Phones › Re: Help Please! by budaatum(op): 6:06pm On Jul 25, 2020

missjo:
8.3 is a good choice, really good.

Honestly, any mid-range or flagship device from Nokia is good. My personal tip for you though is to pick Nokia devices that are branded under the Android One programme. The updates for these come early

I knew nothing about Android One programme.
Thanks.

Education › Re: Converting A Theist (still In Progress) by budaatum: 6:01pm On Jul 25, 2020

TheSourcerer:
you're a Boomer , explains alot.

I would rather my explanations stand on merit than you stand at attention to age. Or else, I'd be talking crap and you'd still be standing at attention.

Education › Re: Converting A Theist (still In Progress) by budaatum: 5:50pm On Jul 25, 2020

Ishilove:
You put this love icon when you quoted Buda. Source, talk to Aunty Ishilove: are you gay?

I think its you who's the lesbian!

Education › Re: Converting A Theist (still In Progress) by budaatum: 5:49pm On Jul 25, 2020

Ishilove:
Na the handiwork of maturity. After today I will go through a person's profile before cussing them out.

buda's profile, lol, clearly states the date of buda's creation as August 08, 2006, which clearly makes buda 14 years old next month, though I do confess that I migrated from another forum with my tits intact.

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Education › Re: Converting A Theist (still In Progress) by budaatum: 5:45pm On Jul 25, 2020

TheSourcerer:
free WiFi
Explains why he is a chill modafvcker, always writting in full words and details with precision

Good schooling. Attention to detail. Disease of perfectionism. Pride in a job done well. You name it.

You, can't even spell my name right.

Education › Re: Converting A Theist (still In Progress) by budaatum: 5:43pm On Jul 25, 2020

Ishilove:
You're almost 60...

No I'm not! I am 14 years old.

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