₦airaland Forum

tintingz:
Does god or any supreme being have anything to do with Call of Duty? You're not even comprehending the subject here.

If Call of Duty is a belief system where the god commands it adherents to kill then they can justify their killings with it e.g book of CoD 1:45 "Go out and kill everyone that hold no phones" in this case the adherents can justify their killings with this command. It's a belief they hold to high esteem. God commands are perfect to them.

Tintingz! Can I justify wife beating or killing unbelievers to intelligent you because of a belief that God has something to do with the Quran?

Would you accept such a stupid ignorant justification from me if you were a judge?

ANTIlSLAM:
No be your Muslim women dey do Olosho for saudi

Isn't that just because Muslim women would rather do olosho in Saudi (if your claim is true, that is) than in Italy where many of Nigerian women go to do olosho?

Xposed2020:
he begged for his life ....

Jesus begged for his life?

Xposed2020:
Jesus was a mad man & possessed with demon according to eyewitness.
John 10:20
Many of them said, “He is demon-possessed and insane. Why would you listen to Him?”

When a person fabricates lies as you are doing, wise people see madness or at least ignorance.

It is "[url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+10%3A19&version=NIV]many of the Jews who were there[/url]" that thought what you claim above. And that many does not even imply half the Jews who were there, whom it is written, were divided.

IslamVIRGINS:
But still under Rome, Italy.. Pope only has spiritual independence, temporal and diplomat independence.. Get you fact right

Is your fact right?

Vatican City, in full State of the Vatican City, Italian Stato della Città del Vaticano, ecclesiastical state, seat of the Roman Catholic Church, and an enclave in Rome, situated on the west bank of the Tiber River. Vatican City is the world’s smallest fully independent nation-state.
https://www.britannica.com/place/Vatican-City

tintingz:
It's not about who abhor or not, it's about the belief they can justify their actions with, if Islam is so peaceful that there isn't anything to justify terrorism actions with, the Religion won't be the face of terrorism.

No tingz! The ignorant beliefs I cook up in my head can never be accepted by intelligent brain users like you who dominate the world, because my stupid ignorant beliefs do not dictate reality.

It's like using Call of Duty to justify a killing spree. All I have to say is "I believe God made Call of Duty" so its ok for me to shoot hundreds of people on a busy street on a Sunday Afternoon.
Please tell me how justified you think I'd be.

tintingz:
Ok, the part the book said "fight unbelievers till they believe"(Quran 9:29, 9:5) isn't in support of what they do?

If I'm a stupid lazy zombie, I might have thought so, but if I wasnt a stupid lazy zombie and bothered to read the book, I would have found that there are many verses in the same book that tell me Islam is not by compulsion, and that seeming contradiction alone ought to make me think a little bit since it must seem as if I can't follow both, what seems to be, instructions.

The Quran is a book, tingz, and not any one single verse. Zombies quote verses in justification, while enlightened people will take the entire book with all its beautiful contradictions, as a whole.

Thinking and reason and understanding those contradictions is what makes people grow, while ignorantly just believing a verse is just plain stupidity.

tintingz:
Let me ask you, Allah commands men to beat their disobedient wives, was that from my interpretation or from the scripture?

Let's see how you reason.

We have done this many times, but though it is obvious, you just can not accept it, I think now because your service to skeptism is of the lip.

Allah did not command anyone to beat their disobedient wives! The truth is you read in a book written 100s of years ago supposedly by an illiterate trader that an angel came from heaven and told him to write what you read today.

Skeptism should make you wonder if an angel truly came, and if it came from Allah, to begin with. That same skeptism should make you wonder if there is merit in beating your wife. And simply using your own eyes would make you wonder why so many Muslims seem to be disobeying their Almighty Most Wise Allah because most Muslims do not beat their wives.

"Allah did not command". It is zombies who read a book and say such a thing, and I think you would say you are not a zombie, so why do you use zombie expressions, tingz? I wonder! Is it because, without realising, you are actually a zombie?

Please know that aside from what one reads literally, and what it means (interpretation), their is understanding too, as in what it motivates one to do, and it is that understanding that is of Allah, and not mere words in some supposedly holy book.

Tamaratonye5:
Please watch this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr6nNvw55C4

I watched this twice when you first posted it and tried watching it again before this response but could only get to the 3:30 mark.

What I love about science is its ability to make one reflect. Its why the scientist in the video does not make the error the 'scientists' who wrote the Bible made. Unlike them, he states clearly at the beginning and all the way through "what we know for sure", and says when he's speculating, which he assures us is about anything 10^-13 seconds after time = 0, ("14 hours, after he was born", he called it), so I can't see why you'd present this as time = -1, as in prior to the big bang, unless you've suddenly gone religious on me and believe the gospel according to the youtube video you posted, which clearly would be a misunderstanding of said gospel since its presenter carefully separates what is known from speculation.

Do note that I am not myself claiming to know what existed prior to time = -1. Just that something tells me bangs do not come out of nothing, and most especially not big ones.

RightChannel:
Christians living in Saudi Arabia in the days of Muhammad were massacre in one night

Provide sources for this claim please, I hate being ignorant.

Vexatious:
I didn't need to, I own several books of his, including 'The Regulators', a book he wrote under the 'Richard Bachman' pseudonym.

He even made a cameo in 'IT Chapter Two'.

You'd have to be a reader to recognise him. Gone are the days when I'd stand outside waiting for the bookshop to open so I can grab his latest release. I'm planning to read the duo of Regulators and Desperation again someday. Its been awhile.

Patrik007:
God instructed them to not use trousers, make ups and artificial hair. When i asked God why He did that, God said He's trying to groom them to a certain level before He permits them to use jewelry and make-up

The whole wide world exists and God is bothering about "trousers, make ups, jewelry and artificial hair"?

Have you checked that you are not making up voices in your heads and claiming it's God's?

It's also a way to hide ignorance and an inability to accept you are in error.

MuttleyLaff:
budaatum, one word: "maieutic"

The method of answering a question with a question, is done, in order to let the original questioner realise that he/she can find the answer to the question he/she asked, by reasoning. Socrates, in eliciting truths from his students, would say that the answer(s) was/were in them/him/her all along. Catch up with you again, God willing, on Sunday next coming

Vexatious:
SoA is a show that really drew me in, and was one of the first shows I marathoned. Yes, it has flaws, but it has quite a few strong arcs. Are there better shows? Yes. Is it the best show? No. Is it worth watching? Yes.

Don't give up yet. Season 4 is really good, the show's best season IMO.

Eric14:
keep watching bro, the series peaked at Season 4 to 7

I got a disease from book reading that makes me always get to the end, so I will watch this to the end, especially since you both agree it picks up at S4. Thanks.

Vexatious:
Stephen King.

Well done!

Did you recognise him or had to check though?

tintingz:
In almost every religious texts there are school of thoughts where scholars interpret the scriptures. Most Religious people if not all are brought up in a particular school of thoughts.

I agree. With both statements.

Do you agree that some "religious scholars" are not scholars at all, but ignorant idiots who twist scripture to their own selfish ends?

Would you agree that the version of the religion formed by such ignorant idiots is a corrupt form of what might actually be understood by religious scholars?

Basically, would you call [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Yusuf_%28Boko_Haram%29?wprov=sfla1]Mohammed Yusuf (29 January 1970 – 30 July 2009)[/url] a religious scholar or an ignorant student who failed to understand what he was taught?

Are you answering my question with a question, muttley?

Please know that I see it as you rudely and deviously evading the obvious flaw in your reasoning or lack of thereof despite your apology.

MuttleyLaff:
budaatum, please answer this. Who is this above me? Who is the person who immediately above me posted? Whats the person Nairaland's moniker name/ID?

It is an assumption that I "bow down and worship your my understanding of it", (sic). Fyi, budatum, believers dont "bow down and worship your their understanding" of Logos and/or Rhema

I am sorry in advance, if you dont find me immediately responding back to you. I'll, God willing, Sunday next coming, if necessary give response(s) to your reply of the "Who is this above me? Who is the person who immediately above me posted? Whats the person Nairaland's moniker name/ID?" question.

sino:
So I find it utterly ridiculous that tintingz and his likes keep claiming that Islam is zombeism...

I feel they watch the worst practitioners of the religion, which is where the ex-Muslims here get their doctrine from and claim that's the religion, without understanding the zombified version they were given and rightly rebel against is not what many understand from reading the Quran. They have been programmed to see what they see, and even when they rebel, they still only see what they are told. I'll call them the zombies and watch tintingz completely miss the point that refuting that fact is his scotsman fallacy with him sticking absolutely to his preconceived notion with an inability to apply skeptism to his already made up mind.

The zombeism they claim is due to Islam is universally distributed in Nigeria, they'd find if they looked carefully. Almost all Nigerians bow down and worship their own religious book or preacher or imam or big man in their neighbourhood, all of which they dare not question, but rather than use skeptism to help them dig out a reason for this zombeism, tingz et al have made up their mind to blame it on the cure without really knowing that's what they do, and that, despite that same book being the beginning of their own eyes opening slightly.

Zombeism they speak of is the result of little information. The first and only book most people read is a holy book, which they are told came down from heaven and therefore must worship despite very limited understanding. I'm discussing with one in the Christian section who thinks he's smart despite his ignorant zombeism shinning through in almost every word he writes. You'd see on that thread how and what I am claiming opened Adam and Eve's eyes and freed them from zombeism. Unfortunately, tintingz is unknowingly claiming such people's misunderstanding is the books fault instead of the individuals ignorance and lack of understanding, and nothing one says will make either of them, despite being on opposite ends, skeptical to their strongly held preconceived beliefs.

Those who will make zombies of our people will make sure those people have as little access to as few sources of information as possible. It's why there's not enough books, no libraries, no electricity, ill-treated teachers and bad schools, and instead a multitude of religious institutions willing to zombify people and get those people to tithe for the privilege. We see the result as the inability of many Nigerians to think and reason for themselves and create employment for the millions of ill-educated unemployable youths graduating annually from our third world universities.

Skeptism, the questioning of knowledge, will make people understand why it is written that, humans must not read only one book or they will become malnourished.

The solution is to increase sceptism by providing people with the access to more information and the opportunity to reason with one another as we do on Nairaland. Even when we do not agree with one another, only the zombies will resist considering and questioning what they've heard or read which is why I do this.

tintingz:
Again you're committing no true Scotsman fallacy. Why do you think Boko Haram are not actually practicing true Islam? How do you tell who is practicing the true Islam?

Do you know what the reverse of no true scotsman is? Its when one uncritically lumps all sorts under the same banner. I'll call it the true scotsman fallacy.

By simply reading the book, tingz, one will find nothing in it to support what boko haram do, and only a prejudiced person wouldn't see the fact that most Muslims abhor boko haram.

Kobojunkie:
I don't know

Lol!

I'm going to stick with mortality rates till you come up with a different indicator. Every country is using it as an indicator so I'm not alone.

I told this man to come here but he too fear NL, so those of you who might have something constructive to say might want to tell him and his followers on twitter @jidesanwoolu

Vexatious:
Was the opposite for me. Mayans MC felt like poor man's version of Sons of Anarchy. Completed season 1... barely, and called it quits. It's a spin-off to Sons of Anarchy, BTW.

I'm in the middle of S3, and so far, SoA hasn't captivated me like Mayans MC did. I keep losing concentration to something else and have to rewind a lot.

I guess I haven't found a character to root for yet, though Maggie Siff who plays Tara Knowles is close. I keep comparing with her role as Wendy Rhoades in Billions.

sniper619:
Stay away from me gay

Yawn.

Kaycee7:
You could stick to other media apart from American content, instead of incessantly whining about LGBTQ content creators trying to tell their own stories. Last I checked, nobody's forcing you to watch any of these movies or TV series.
Nobody gives a sh1t what you choose to accept or not.

I like this.

bamangar:
I couldn't keep up with Wentworth after they killed my favorite character, Bee smith.. Quite emotional for me. I stopped at season 5 and won't go further.. But Fergusonis really maddddd

I hear these names and remember my [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner_%28TV_series%29?wprov=sfla1]one time favourite tv series[/url] of which this is a remake. I finally gave up because it went on and on and on!

hellohgy:
Someone needs to explain the meaning of over hyped.

If I watched a movie and I liked it it thereby rating high you people will say it is over hyped.

You should not care if people do not share your opinion. It shows you are independently minded, and not a sheep.

Trivia

I'm sure some of you would need to go search to answer this, but try to be honest and say if you knew who this is before you searched.

festwiz:
At £500 I doubt there's any device that give abetter value for money than the Poco F2 Pro. You may want to check out the OnePlus Nord but it's a weaker device if I say so myself. You can also look for any special discounts on older devices like the OP7T or S10+.

#peace

You might have a point, and its on my list.
Thanks.

MuttleyLaff:
The Logos, after all, is the Word of God, and if its written in it, it then, necessarily, is so.

Are you suggesting that the Logos which was with God in the beginning and became flesh and made his dwelling among us that John testified concerning, is the Bible, muttley?

It would explain why you bow down and worship your understanding of it.

Kobojunkie:
There needs to be more indicators to measure this and so far, every country is still working to understand the situation.

Tell me what indicators you suggest we use to measure when the time is right please so we can start gathering it now.