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MaNyEsq:
Talk about being pedantic? You better check yourself before you start talking gibberish. I guess you either did not read my first article and my initial response to your comment or you read both without comprehension, But either way, it really does not matter what your thoughts and opinions are. Let me repeat what I said from the get-go before you chimed in... "I can say without equivocation that Nigeria is the only country that I have had the privilege of visiting in all my travels that I have seen herds of cows competing with vehicular traffic on a major road in a city."

And I simply responded having "had the privilege of visiting in all my travels" countries where cows are treated with more reverence, which on reflection, you said was true.

Please do not feel diminished by "gibberish". Its just a "view" and "thought" and "opinion".

yommygift15:
I still don't know the meaning of the said BREXIT DEAL
can someone help out

Lol! That's why Teresa resigned. She could not come up with a Brexit deal anyone agreed on.

Martinez39:
The EU is an organisation that consists of unelected and anti-democratic bureaucracts that make policies and laws without the votes/consent of the people and are damaging Europe with their open border policies and globalisation and multiculturalism agenda.

Just so you know, we voted for Members of the European Parliament just yesterday.

SoNature:
Cameron saw this coming and ran away!

This, being the only thing you said in your very agreeable post, I can't understand why people say it! Cameron should have known the majority would vote to Brexit. He apparently never knew, never prepared, and had to resign because he lost his Remain mandate. And I think he should be tried for treason for getting us in this mess in the first place.

Imagine! UK exits from Europe! Doesn't it sound like we'd have to move all of Britain to off the African coast or something to exit Europe? Or is it the Britons who move leaving the land in Europe where it belongs?

They gave May way too much to do and broke her. We'd see how this all plays out come Halloween.

May is gone. Roll in June.

May is Gone! Roll in June.

MaNyEsq:
And your point is? I am not sure where you're going with your argument. But any reasonable person should understand the difference between a religious belief that had been in existence in a country like India for eon years- although you or I might not subscribe to such belief- and the mere belief for economic reasons that cows are more valuable than human lives like in Nigeria. There's a big difference between the two and whether you accept that fact or not is really immaterial.

The person I was 'talking' with clearly understands what was meant. Note how we weren't 'arguing' because both of us know a cow in India or Nigeria is just meat, whether revered or worshipped or protected with your life. You're just going on unnecessarily with a rather "immaterial" argument MaNy. Try being a bit less pedantically literal in your understanding perhaps.

Stephani3e:
It's so frustrating, you can't read a thread completely there must be unnecessary bashing.
I am angry, this people are spoiling nairaland for some users.

They are men with brain in pant! What do you expect?

Men are pigs! Real humans shouldn't be listening to pigs grunting!

Frankdoz29:
HOW WOULD YOU FEEL?

I'd be like "some people never learn", as it wouldn't be the first time 'we' woke up and heard something similar, so some of us would just look back to history and lament the future which would be very similar to when his older brother C. Odumegwu Ojukwu too declared The Biafran Declaration of Independence on May 27, 1967 which reads thus:

WE, THE Chiefs, Elders, and Representatives of Eastern Nigeria, gathered at this Joint Meeting of the Advisory Committee of Chiefs and Elders and the Consultative Assembly, do solemnly declare as follows:

WHEREAS we have been in the vanguard of the national movement for the building of a strong, united, and prosperous Nigeria where no man will be oppressed and have devoted our efforts, talents, and resources to this end;

WHEREAS we cherish certain inalienable human rights and state obligations such as the right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness; the right to acquire, possess, and defend property; the provision of security; and the establishment of good and just government based on the consent of the governed;

WHEREAS in practical demonstration of these beliefs, our people settled in other parts of Nigeria, served their country in many capacities, and contributed immensely to the growth and development of Nigeria;

WHEREAS WE ARE LIVING WITNESSES OF INJUSTICES AND ATROCITIES COMMITTED against Eastern Nigeria, among which are the premeditated murder of over 30,000 of our innocent men, women, and children by Northern Nigerians, the calculated destruction of the property of our sons and daughters, the shameless conversion of 2,000,000 Eastern Nigerians into refugees in their own country, all this without remorse;

WHEREAS in consequence of these and other acts of discrimination and injustice, we have painfully realized that the Federation of Nigeria has failed, and has given us no protection;

WHEREAS in spite of these facts, the government and people of Eastern Nigeria have persisted in their efforts to find a practical and just solution that would preserve the continued existence of Nigeria as one corporate unit and restore peace and confidence as demonstrated by the initiative of our military governor in getting all the military leaders together at Aburi, Ghana;

WHEREAS the hopes which the Aburi Agreement engendered have proved to be misplaced and have been destroyed by a series of acts of bad faith and distortions and finally by a refusal on the part of the "Lagos Government" to implement these and other agreements notwithstanding the fact that they were freely and voluntarily entered into;

WHEREAS the Federation of Nigeria has forfeited any claim to our allegiance by these acts and by the economic, political, and diplomatic sanctions imposed against us by the so-called Federal Government;

AND WHEREAS the object of government is the good of the governed and the will of the people its ultimate sanction;

NOW, THEREFORE, in consideration of these and other facts and injustices, we, the Chiefs, Elders, and Representatives of all the twenty provinces of Eastern Nigeria, assembled in this Joint Meeting of the Advisory Committee of Chiefs and Elders and the Consultative Assembly, at Enugu this 27th day of May, 1967, hereby solemnly: More

During the two and half years of the Nigeria-Biafra War (6 July 1967 – 15 January 1970), there were about 100,000 overall military casualties, while between 500,000 and 2 million Biafran civilians died of starvation.¹ Population of Nigeria in 1966 was 51.22 million.²

We really need to start learning history again in Nigeria so we can stop repeating the same mistakes over and over again!

Officialgarri:
Don't be stupid bro. What's the difference between saying a prayer and seeking peace with someone who is dead.

Praying for him is useless, but expressing my soberness is a lesson to others

I thought you were learning from this death

Don't make me shake my 12 year old head at you please!

Frankicent:
You a Big Frustrated F**l Lemme guess you still between the age range of 18-23 if you way older than this age. You no fit get s*nse for life again .

How can a grown human being who suppose to think about money, career and success come to an online forum to talk rubb*sh.


Your St*p*dity is rich

Hello?! You got a mirror? Look in it!

beatcoins:
That is it! Some kids would come online and talk trash to people not knowing who is at the other end of the conversation like they're mates in life. I hope some other young folk would learn from this?

Everyone should learn from this! Being older gives no right to insult anyone. It should in fact place a burden on one to be respectful to those one is older than even. Maturity doesn't come with age.

P.s. I am 12 years old. Respect me!

Elose11:
As it stand currently:

Senate Presidency: APC 58, PDP 49, YPP 1, Absent 1.

APC will not work with PDP to produce National Assembly principal officers and in fact they won't be allowed to chair any committee - Oshiomhole.

Would Teresa May or Trump allow anyone from their opposition to 'chair a committee'?

jaxxy:
If U do not stand for something you will fall for anything. However I don’t support hate.

Interesting that you realise "stand" can be "hate". "Stand for something", is what boko haram would claim they are doing. We could claim the " stand too firm". Thankfully, America doesn't stand so firm. If it did it would likely be the "Land of the Free Brave White Christians"!

Ubenedictus:
they were not resisted by the Catholic Church, there were no Catholics in England then, the Catholics were been killed and murdered by the Anglican state.

They were resisted by there fellow Anglicans who considered their teachings heresy. There is no truth to the claim that it was the Catholic Church that drove out the puritans.


Puritanism itself was considered weird, even today it's strain of though has twisted that of the reformation

Never said there was "truth to the claim that it was the Catholic Church that drove out the puritans" Uben.

MaNyEsq:
I am not sure what part of Nigeria where cows are sacred and worshipped that you have been to. But if there's, I am certain that just like you mouthed off India, you would have done the same. So, please tell me what part you're alluding to. There's a difference between the government of Buhari's belief that cows are more valuable than human lives and cows actually been sacred and worshipped in whatever part of Nigeria you have in mind. Those two are disparate and unequal.

In my own opinion, there is no difference between a "belief that cows are more valuable than human lives" and, "cows actually been sacred and worshipped", and the fact that you yourself mentioned both shows you know exactly what I mean.

kunleweb:
Perhaps birth control would have avoided them altogether.

Birth control for illiterates? I doubt kunu stops people getting pregnant.

kunleweb:
We should register the cows here too so they stop going berserk causing mayhem

Perhaps register the almanjeris first. Its their not being in school that leaves them tendering cattle.

MaNyEsq:
True that! I have not been to India but unlike in Nigeria, cows are sacred and worshipped in India, so, that's the difference.

Cows are not "sacred and worshipped" anywhere in Nigeria"? I feel like asking if you haven't been there neither, but you must have heard the news. Surely!?

Trump announces $16 billion in aid to farmers as trade war continues. The bailout is the second aid package issued to help the agriculture industry as tensions with China remain high.

"Most glorious God! author of all good and giver of all mercy! pour down Thy blessings upon us, and strengthen our solemn engagements with the ties of sincere affection! May the present instance of mortality remind us of our approaching fate, and draw our attention toward Thee, the only refuge in time of need! that, when the awful moment shall arrive, that we are about to quit this transitory scene, the enlivening prospect of Thy mercy may dispel the gloom of death; and after our departure hence in peace, and in Thy favor, may we be received into Thine everlasting kingdom, to enjoy, in union with the souls of our departed friends, the just reward of a pious and virtuous life. Amen."

So mote it be.

Brethren: Here we view another instance of the uncertainty of life, and the vanity of all human pursuits. The last offices paid to the dead are useful as lectures to the living. From them we are to derive instruction, and we should consider every solemnity of this kind as a summons to prepare for our approaching dissolution.

"Notwithstanding the various mementoes of mortality with which we daily meet; notwithstanding death has established his empire over all the works of nature; yet through some unaccountable infatuation we forget that we are born to die; we go on from one design to another, add hope to hope, and lay out plans for the employment of many years, till we are suddenly alarmed at the approach of Death when we least expect him, and at an hour which we probably conclude to be the meridian of our existence.

"What are all the externals of majesty, the pride of wealth, or charms of beauty, when nature has paid her last, just debt? Fix your eyes on the last scene, and view life stripped of her ornaments, and exposed in her natural poverty; you will then be convinced of the futility of these empty delusions. In the grave, all fallacies are detected, all ranks are leveled, and all distinctions are done away.

"While we drop the sympathetic tear over the grave of our deceased Brother, let charity incline us to throw a veil over his foibles, whatever they may have been, and not withhold from his memory the praise that his virtues may have claimed. Suffer the infirmities of human nature to plead in his behalf. Perfection on earth has never been attained; the wisest, as well as the best of men, have erred.

"Let the present example excite our most serious thoughts, and strengthen our resolutions of amendment. As life is 'uncertain, and all earthly pursuits are vain, let us no longer postpone the all-important concern of preparing for Eternity, but embrace the happy moment, while time and opportunity offer, to provide against the great change, when all the pleasures of this world shall cease to delight, and the reflections of a virtuous and holy life yield the only comfort and consolation. Thus our expectations will not be frustrated, nor we hurried, unprepared, into the presence of an all-wise and powerful Judge, to whom the secrets of all hearts are known.

"Let us, then, while in this state of existence, support with propriety the character of our profession, advert to the nature of our solemn ties, and pursue with assiduity the sacred tenets of our Order. Then, with becoming reverence, let us supplicate the Divine Grace, to insure the favor of that Eternal Being, whose goodness and power know no bounds; that, when the awful moment shall arrive, be it soon or late, we may be enabled to prosecute our journey without dread or apprehension, to that distant country, from whose bourne no traveler returns."

May we be true and faithful; and may we live and die in love.

"Most glorious God! author of all good and giver of all mercy! pour down Thy blessings upon us, and strengthen our solemn engagements with the ties of sincere affection! May the present instance of mortality remind us of our approaching fate, and draw our attention toward Thee, the only refuge in time of need! that, when the awful moment shall arrive, that we are about to quit this transitory scene, the enlivening prospect of Thy mercy may dispel the gloom of death; and after our departure hence in peace, and in Thy favor, may we be received into Thine everlasting kingdom, to enjoy, in union with the souls of our departed friends, the just reward of a pious and virtuous life. Amen."

So mote it be.

Brethren: Here we view another instance of the uncertainty of life, and the vanity of all human pursuits. The last offices paid to the dead are useful as lectures to the living. From them we are to derive instruction, and we should consider every solemnity of this kind as a summons to prepare for our approaching dissolution.

"Notwithstanding the various mementoes of mortality with which we daily meet; notwithstanding death has established his empire over all the works of nature; yet through some unaccountable infatuation we forget that we are born to die; we go on from one design to another, add hope to hope, and lay out plans for the employment of many years, till we are suddenly alarmed at the approach of Death when we least expect him, and at an hour which we probably conclude to be the meridian of our existence.

"What are all the externals of majesty, the pride of wealth, or charms of beauty, when nature has paid her last, just debt? Fix your eyes on the last scene, and view life stripped of her ornaments, and exposed in her natural poverty; you will then be convinced of the futility of these empty delusions. In the grave, all fallacies are detected, all ranks are leveled, and all distinctions are done away.

"While we drop the sympathetic tear over the grave of our deceased Brother, let charity incline us to throw a veil over his foibles, whatever they may have been, and not withhold from his memory the praise that his virtues may have claimed. Suffer the infirmities of human nature to plead in his behalf. Perfection on earth has never been attained; the wisest, as well as the best of men, have erred.

"Let the present example excite our most serious thoughts, and strengthen our resolutions of amendment. As life is 'uncertain, and all earthly pursuits are vain, let us no longer postpone the all-important concern of preparing for Eternity, but embrace the happy moment, while time and opportunity offer, to provide against the great change, when all the pleasures of this world shall cease to delight, and the reflections of a virtuous and holy life yield the only comfort and consolation. Thus our expectations will not be frustrated, nor we hurried, unprepared, into the presence of an all-wise and powerful Judge, to whom the secrets of all hearts are known.

"Let us, then, while in this state of existence, support with propriety the character of our profession, advert to the nature of our solemn ties, and pursue with assiduity the sacred tenets of our Order. Then, with becoming reverence, let us supplicate the Divine Grace, to insure the favor of that Eternal Being, whose goodness and power know no bounds; that, when the awful moment shall arrive, be it soon or late, we may be enabled to prosecute our journey without dread or apprehension, to that distant country, from whose bourne no traveler returns."

May we be true and faithful; and may we live and die in love.

Tears of the Sun
The Nigerian government has fallen, and the country is on the verge of civil war. Lt. A.K. Waters (Bruce Willis) has been assigned to lead a team of soldiers into the Nigerian jungle to rescue Dr. Lena Kendricks (Monica Bellucci). When Waters and his team locate Kendricks, she tells them she won't leave her helpless patients to be slaughtered by rebels. The team incurs the wrath of both U.S. and Nigerian forces when they side with Kendricks and attempt to march the refugees to safety.

Must say, I only had one eye on this but with America dropping bombs on what's meant to be Nigeria border, it did come across as a promotion for interventionism to save........

Yep, I did say one eye! "Roger Ebert gave the film three stars out of four and said, "Tears of the Sun is a film constructed out of rain, cinematography and the face of Bruce Willis. These materials are sufficient to build a film almost as good as if there had been a better screenplay".

Crap, I'd say, and give one for the movie and half for my eye, since the "rain, cinematography and the face of Bruce Willis" just wasn't enough to attract both for its 2hr22min run, though more accurately, not my sort of movie as I'm more of a dialog person and not a "bomb shoot die" sort.

Patience's teeth though, acted by Akosua Busia - no, not her teeth silly, herself - was a highlight worth a half. There were perfect white and they made a feature of them, so 2 out of 4 it gets and next time I'll stick with a book!

hayoholla:
Of course its my subjective opinion of you. Most of your argument are in favour of a non coercive subjective view, something similar to anarchism

Non-coercive, as in, don't force anyone; and subjective - to my view; yet, anarchist, as in anti-authoritarian, self-managed and voluntarily, cooperative?

Mind elaborating with an example please. I might have an opinion if I understood what you meant.

Ubenedictus:
the puritans didn't escape because of harsh Catholic law, the puritans were been persecuted by the Church of England aka Anglican Church. It had nothing to do with the Catholic church

The puritans were actually trying to make the Church of England less Catholic after the reformation actually, and were resisted!

HappyPagan:
this thread is too calm to make front page. I'm glad.

Let me insult you for the fun of it just to get it there. Big massive insult mode turned on!

You happy.

There. Fp please!

Tocynone:
Trump at work

When they say "build that wall" many think it's only a physical wall.

Come on people, love Trump!

MaNyEsq:
I have had the privilege of visiting so many countries around the globe and I can say without equivocation that Nigeria is the only country that I have seen herds of cows competing with vehicular traffic on a major road in a city. Having those cows roaming the street with that much traffic poses a danger to both the drivers and pedestrians especially at night.

Could you imagine the amount of damage that can be done if one of the bulls goes on a rampage at an oncoming car? It is appalling that the government of Buhari does not give a damn about the citizens but giving a pass to cows roaming the highway and obstructing traffic while arresting hardworking citizens hawking their wares just to make a living takes lunacy and idiocy to another level. Nigerians need to wake up and decide how long they want to be abused and browbeaten.

You haven't been to India then? They'll make you bow down and worship the cow!

It is not unusual for cattle to be moved at night since they are less likely to cause harm if moved when everyone is asleep.

Iyana Oba and its environs is a popular place to fatten cattle. It's close to Owala, a lake in the Orolu Kingdom, where lots of cow food grows in its surrounds. After months of fattening, they are driven through Ifon Osun or Ilie in the middle of the night to Ogbomosho and further on to Ilorin where they are sold. I can sit in front of my home after 12 midnight and watch hundreds of them herded by till about 3am.

There's absolutely no way the Orolu Kingdom would let anyone herd that many cattle through town during the day! Cattle would destroy stuff and likely kill people and we'd shout "Fulani" and there'd be war.

LoJ:
Exactly my point.

What is it they found that gave them tremendous power?

I personally lean towards thinking they discovered the suppressed feminine aspect of the Divine. Revelation so great that it changed their perspective for good.

There is evidence that the present free masonry and even the rose croix tradition are offshoots it the Templars.

In 1751 Baron Karl Gotthelf von Hund und Altengrotkau began the Order of Strict Observance, which ritual he claimed to have received from the reconstituted Templar Order in 1743 in Paris. He also claimed to have met two of the "unknown superiors" who directed all of masonry, one of whom was Prince Charles Edward Stuart. The order went into decline when he failed to produce any evidence to support his claims, and was wound up shortly after his [url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar_%28Freemasonry%29?wprov=sfla1]death[/url].

The Societas Rosicruciana claims a link to the original Rosicrucian Brotherhood. It bases its teachings on those found in the Fama and Confessio Fraternitas texts published in Germany in the early 17th century, along with other similar publications from the same time.

Thomas De Quincey in his work titled; Rosicrucians and Freemasonry, put forward the theory which suggested that Freemasonry was possibly an outgrowth of Rosicrucianism. The theory had also been postulated in 1803 by German professor; J. G. Buhle.

As you can see, a lot of "claims" and hardly any evidence, and all contradictory, like the four Gospels. It's for such reasons that religious discussion is banned in the Lodge least Masons start arguinng who's 'beliefs' are right and who's wrong and not therefore get on with doing the business of the Lodge. Some don't even require a belief in a supreme being and scripture anymore and would hardly be in amity with those who only accept those of only one faith.

If the Templars found anything I think it would have been revealed by now especially if they had Rosicrucian affiliations who's aim is to transmute the ignorant into the wise which can only be done by revealing information and not by hiding it, and more especially if it were the lost ark which would be a found ark if they had found it. But it's just "I think", and not a belief I hold on to. What's more important is the fruits that are produced, and not the seed that is planted or the soil it's planted in - apart from ensuring they are considered to be good and free, so to speak.

In the "feminine aspect of the Divine Revelation", I detect a reunion of the Godhead established in "in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them", a Duality which humankind got rid of in its early patriarchistic wrathful God but which was reestablished with the Love of the Son, Christian speaking. Add a third, intellect, if you may, or that which we heretofore struggled to name in a previous conversation, and you got your Trinity. Add one more aspect and you got what Jung called a Quarternity which is Whole. Don't ask me what the fourth represents though. Recall our struggle with even the third aspect.

Maximize52:
She had no option.

How so?

Oops!

And Fox Cancels Empire. He should watch his back so his co-cast don't beat him up for real!