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mrnwas:
Now that we're certain Cane married his sister Awan, is it wrong for a young man to decide to marry his sister?

Even if no one advises you not to marry your sister, would you say the implications of marrying her are positive?

stanech:
Fact

The same Kanye who said "My eyes are now wide open and now realize I’ve been used to spread messages I don’t believe in. I am distancing myself from politics and completely focusing on being creative !!!"

Has he flipflopped again?

LordReed:
Happy birthday brilliant lady.

Buda when's yours?

20 July

hayoholla:
Yes, majority of anarchist are non coercive even if they agree objectively to be anti authoritarian, aside that all pyjet of their views are subjective with respect to each belief. Mind you, I know where you are getting at Sir. Anarchism is not a religion, neither is it a school of thought sef, and also may not be wholly about being anti authoritarian, anarchist live their life devoid of any central dogma or belief, save for the one they subjectively created for themselves mostly as form of moral compass. The term anarchism is very complex to practice though. But you lean closer to one. I hope you get and understand me.

No, I don't get you. You have not exactly explained how you came to your conclusion nor have you pointed to anything I've said to support your view. And unfortunately, subjective opinions don't cut objective ice, least not in this thread. But, first, thank you very much for contributing here. This thread is about a complex topic with profound implications if understood so I can't but be immensely grateful to anyone who engages and comments in it. Those who do will find the subject a thing they'd chew on long after they've engaged in conversation here, and like me, perhaps, would be better for it. Thanks again immensely.

Beliefs, by their sheer nature, are subjective. They are the views and opinions that one choses to hold inside one's head. They are hardly objectively tested or they would no more be beliefs. After all, as I continuously state, no one claims they 'believe' it is raining if rain is falling on their head. Nor have I come across anyone who 'believes' their mother and their father are their parents unless they aren't quite certain who born them - most of us tend to 'know' who our parents are and whether it is rain that is pissing on our heads. That's why, in my own subjective opinion, believers are categorically claiming not to know because they don't have evidence for their claims. If they did have evidence they would no more believe and would know instead. The West came to this understanding when they arrived in the Scientific Age and decided to test their beliefs. It is what has allowed them to "Be fruitful and increase in number; to fill and subdue the earth, and rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground" and to be blessed, so to speak. While believers, on the other hand, tend to still be calling out to God to bless them please or they struggle to elope to the West. (See here for details on this very subjective view of mine).

I have a dear friend who is an anarchist and we hardly agree. Anarchy, I tell him, means devoid of order, order he is finding he can not do without. He manages a library in Chelsea and hates when his staff don't turn up for work or do what he tells them to do. He could not exactly have gotten to where he is if he is anarchical and he'd not like any of his staff to be anarchical neither. Even in his writing he can't be anarchical (I would expect one to be if one were), since it would involve not obeying the rules of language and the writing of unstructured sentences which would be meaningless to the majority of readers. Much order you sentence just words placing try anarchic and you might mean what I making hardly see sense, I would think.

I'll let you into a secret that many contributing to this thread fail to observe. We are discussing two ideas - the subjective, as in made up in the head - or at best one's own point of view; and objective factual evidence, yet many fail to recognise when they themselves are doing either. I can make up any opinion in my head for instance, but I can't necessarily make anyone agree with me except they share my subjectivity or I present compelling objective evidence (albeit subjectively still), or they are stupid and cannot reason for themself. Even my objective fact and evidence based utterances are still subjective since I would have subjectively chosen the objective evidence I present out of all the objective evidence that is available with which I would have spun my own subjective opinion.

You'd see it more by observing this section of NL well where you'd find so called Christians devoid of love for their neighbours and atheists ranting against a God they 'believe' does not exist. Imagine, an atheist, who claims to rely on evidence, 'believing' and ranting against what is claimed not to exist, and a Christian, abandoning the core principle of their faith and not loving others! If we could only learn to understand the subjectivity of our so called objectivity we might see how absurd and ridiculous we can be and perhaps learn to walk our talk. But we go deeper, or don't scratch the surface, would be more precise. Imagine a thread about mysticism where the proponent of the thread is not practising mysticism. You've got to ask if what's being presented is an objective subjective view of mysticism - an art which by it's nature is very subjective in itself, and not objective at all.

What one 'sees' (or believes) depends pretty much on where one stands and looks from, is my point, and changing position changes one's view. One should very much be aware of this fact and not define things by the bit they hold on to, nor mistake the finger for the moon it points to - two sayings that teach of this error and are two "dogmas" I tenaciously hold on to contrary to your observation that I hold on to none. Einstein won a Nobel Prize for making us aware of this very cogent fact he called Relativity.

I'm going to have to agree as you've acknowledged, that you are not in anyway stating an objective opinion about me. I can hardly expect you to since you can't exactly have any objective evidence to base your claim on and you sure haven't presented any evidence, be it subjective or objective at that, for your claim. And that's perfectly okay because this is precisely the thread to practise to differentiate your subjective opinion from objective fact and acknowledge the difference between the two. It is what this thread was created for.

That said, and of course, subjectively speaking, I'm not anarchic, nay. The consistency of my thought as expressed in my writings, despite a recent flip from atheism to theism, is sufficient evidence that I am not. But if you insist, then do please present me with what you see that makes you think I am, for I do love seeing me through the eyes of others since it's very likely they may have a point. After all, it's very unlikely that I can possible have an objective view of my subjective self since I'd always be subjectively observing me from the subjective position of being inside my subjective self looking inside my subjective self. And if subjective I were to subjectively think I'm objectively observing my very subjective self, anarchy would not sufficiently describe the level of stupidity I would be engaging in, I assure you.

Curvinus:
That must be your father's picture, the one who grunts so hard while ravaging your dirty stinking pozay. It's clear the both of you are meant for each cos I can't think of any other animal that could withstand such acrid stench of decay from an overused slack hoe.

Grunt! Harder! Let the pig in you shine Curvanus.

We're going to a party at Sabrina's I hear.

bakila:
She should not have assigned herself to the Panel, knowing fully well that her beloved husband won election on the clout of Buhari. She know that is is not actual bias that is the worry, but the LIKELIHOOD OF BIAS. The ruling of the motion in my opinion ought not to have being activated if a neutral person who brought to chair the panel.

She did not "assign herself to the panel"! She is a Judge who has worked her way to her job!

You know what, I tire for you. You will inshallah become a person in a responsible position someday and abandon this juvenile thought process you so strongly hold on to. In Jesus name I pray.

marvrick:
The Bible is a master at deception and telling lies

Funny. Or rather, let me first joke at your expense. The Bible lied to you op? It actually spoke to you and what it said was a lie? Or are you just coming on here and telling us a lie?

Now, seriously. Your post is indicative of the state of education in our illustrious nation I say. You read something in a book and expect it to be the truth. Did you read the hare and the tortoise and just believe that too? Would you believe a word I write and believe me too? Do you do the same with history you read in a book? Or would you dig deeper and try to reason too?

Take the very short incomplete list of contradictions you mentioned in your op. Read more and you'd find so many more that trying to believe them all would get you in a right pickle. But that's because, contrary to general belief, you aren't meant to believe the book, but learn from it and develop your mind. Or don't you think all those contradictions could have been edited out before you got it?

It's a book op, and not a god. Stop believing and worshipping it and learn to think instead. Understanding the import of those contradictions will heavily enhance your life. Especially when you eventually discover that life itself is full of contradictions one best understand.

P.s. I'm still laughing at your Bible lying to you op. But I recognise it's not your fault but those who sold you the infantile stupid soul and mind destroying idea that you must 'believe' what you read in a book.

To understand what I mean, see here.

jaxxy:
The senate passes bills to correct everything elsewhere except in the senate. The humongous corruption legal and illegal going on in the senate won’t be addressed?

Or They do not think it’s part of what is destroying the country?

How can senate be passing bill for Abuja sef? Are they not Senate of Nigeria anymore?!

firstbornson:
Haven't done this before, but I want to know your honest, experienced and well thought out opinions. I'm really depressed but I won't take Snipper (that devil is a liar). If you don't have anything serious and reasonable to say, please, just read comments (I know as e dey be for here, sometimes).

Its quite a long read. Apologies for any grammatical or typographical error encountered.

Here is my story.

My younger sister who is staying with me disrespects me alot, and she doesn't take my advice. My parents stay very far away and I feel responsible for her. It frustrates me whenever I tell her something and she will wait to do it at her own time or not do it at all. She even sometimes abuses me indirectly.

She is 19, came to stay with me last year November, for a Predegree program, after staying at home for two years without admission. After the first semester of her program, her result was released and it was very disappointing. She made 51% in only one course of four courses, while others are below that. To be honest, I felt I failed in my responsibilities of giving her the right counsel, motivating her, and all that. All she does is press her phone all night long, that's if she isn't watching a movie with her phone. She'll sleep and wake up the next morning by 8 or 9am.

Recently, there's this guy who happens to be my late landlord's first son in the compound where we stay that she has been spending too much time with in dark corners and I can tell in my gut that he's up to no good. He doesn't go to work, school, church, nowhere. He just seats at home all day, smoking weed and any other smokable substance he can lay his hands on. Sometimes, his friends come around and they smoke and play PES 2011 on a laptop. Lest I forget, he's also a cultist. He has tried on several occasions to make me a yahoo boy, but I had to consciously refuse.

My apologies for the long read.

About a week ago, this guy asked her to cook indomie for him, and she did, using our gas, without telling me. This got me really up set. I had to take several deep breaths. I calmed down and allowed her finish. After she was done, I asked her to seat down and we started talking. While we were talking, she started responding rudely to me.

This made me hit her for the first time in 19 years (I hate hitting them). To my utmost surprise, she hit me back. That singular act made her receive a very hard beating that she sustained lots of injuries. She immediately called home and my parents where now shouting at me on phone. My dad came the next day and said lots of things. My mom said lots of things on phone which just piss me off the more, called me all sought of names. Said I shouldn't allow the devil that is controlling take me close to my sister.

Right now, I hate all of them. My dad, mum, and sister. If I was financially buoyant enough, I would have moved out of this house. I feel really depressed, being having nightmares and I so much hate the fact that am still living here.

By the way, am male, 24, studying Biochemistry, should have finished my first degree last year but I'm having an extra year (3 spill over courses).

How do I move from here? Advice me.

Dude, you seriously make me laugh! Young sister is eating your food, slapping you, reporting you to parents who are cursing you, and you did not tell them to take their daughter and go! Is there something you are not telling us here, like she's not really your sister but your child instead, or the one that pays the rent and buys the food you eat or worked so you could go to school? Would you allow your wife to treat you like she does?

You are ruining her life! Because of you, she can play around, failbexams, not take life serious and still have food in her belly and a roof over her head! If you had been like she was in your parent's house would you have food to put in her belly and a roof over her head?

Send her back to her parents please and let them ruin it for her instead, or what is wrong with you!? Hopefully, she's not the only sister you have. Let one of the more serious ones come and live and benefit from you!

Sniper, my ass! I'm so annoyed with you that I want to come over where you are and sniper you myself!

Curvinus:
Just cos pigs of all classes get to dump cum in you and grunt away doesn't make you better than any one on this forum.

And what makes you think I would ever consider an unattractive harpy with a dirty stinking vagina that's been severally passed around with wiped in shiite and stale piss?

"Better than any one on this forum"? Is that what threatens you?

You really are working hard to prove you are a pig. Go on and grunt harder so we have no doubt.

bakila:
Your just answered for me. She said she is eligible as chair or the panel, then on her own she refused to hear the matter. How convinient? I do not need Google on this matter, because I have appeared before the PCA since 10 years ago.

I like your choice of words but you are being disingenuous! She did not "refused to hear the matter"!

She, told them to present their argument stating why she should recuse herself. She, and the four other panel members considered the petition and decided it had no merit. She, then decided to recuse herself regardless even though she didn't have to. And if you can't see the merit of her action I'm seriously going to go and cry for my country Nigeria or just be delighted that that there might be more sensible people like Atiku who does, despite my dying hope that he never becomes President of Nigeria, (though I'm now thinking that I might have to reconsider just so he can show your like what a commendable act should be!).

MaNyEsq:
Ha! Ha!! Ha!!! I guess the joke is on you.

Indeed it is. And why you did not see that all along amuses me. The fact my opinion matters so much to you is rather touching though, loving, in fact, and very endearing indeed. So endearing that I am going to just come out with it and beg you to marry me please.

I love you too MaNyEsq. With my heart and mind and being (and my cows, might I add). So send me your details, my darling dearest future loving hubby please, so I can send dowry. It will not be in cows since I think you might not so much revere the meat.

MaNyEsq:
I understood it was a comment and that was why I stated that I was in agreement with you about India but you would not let it go simply because I said that India has more of a religious view of their cows.

You funny MaNy. Why should you care if I "let it go" or not? Isn't it my time, my data, and my "gibberish" even?

Try to stop making out buda's opinion is so important. buda is just one of the many faceless individuals on here.

I wonder which of the two is preparing for war.

Turantula:
These are criminals and not terrorists, no God sent them to do it

No god sent anyone "to do it"!

Shikini:
This is laughable.
Are you serious, OP?

Yes op! Are you serious. The fact he lost election does not mean he was corrupt (dont know if he is or not). But if he had been then he must pay.

Stephani3e:
Lol people around you are really trying ,

are you white ?

Black. How are people around me trying? I did cook that bacon sandwich myself lol.

Curvinus:
Your posting sandwich and bacon. Why not upload your pix let's see how ugly and frustrated you are. All the pretty gals are doing that here. So, what's stopping you.

Obviously, men are pigs because they're not asking you out or don't bother to stay long enough for a sequel. Would you blame them? Who wants to go out with an idiot sired by a pig?

Blame your father and mother for passing on their worthless genetics.

You must be one of those pigs we are talking about, half brain in head the rest in pants. Didn't the elders in your home teach you not to behave like a pig and to respect your mother and father?

No, you can't date me! I'm way past your level as you can very clearly see in the thread where we did post pictures. Go dig it up and see.

Stephani3e:
Your food combination is weird, are you in Nigeria ?

Nope. They don't sell bacon in Nigeria as far as I know.

Bacon and egg is standard in Blighty where its part of an English Breakfast. And before you say "it ain't breakfast time", its eaten anytime of the day and is, or rather, was, my first meal today.

Someone should have told him 4 years have a tendency to fly by. If he'd been told perhaps he'd have been more productive with the 4 he was given.

Stephani3e:
you are crazy ooo

Especially on Fridays! Must say, that was yummy!

MaNyEsq:
I am in awe of your reasoning. Not sure if your point is that Cows should be allowed to roam around the streets in Nigeria simply because they are allowed to do so in India. But whatever your point is, it's surely irrelevant to what my initial article was about.

It was really just a comment MaNy.
And you're making way too much of it.

Stephani3e:
LMAO, they must have really angered you lot, and their behavior in dis forum ain't helping matters.
Your opinion, but not all of them are pigs, we have some good ones.

My opinion: Men are pigs! And no, they haven't angered me. I'm in fact going to go make myself a bacon and egg sandwich and attach a photo before I eat it just to prove to you that pigs don't anger me.

Make sure you laugh please Stephani3e. Laugh

MaNyEsq:
Please, spare me the anguish! I am neither diminished by you or your gibberish. The point is that society has in some way become so effusive due to the advent of the internet giving people the temerity to read something without comprehension and make some "off the wall" comments. So, if by your own admission that I agreed with your point albeit with a caveat as regards to India, why the proclivity? Let me try to break it down maybe you will understand. In India, cows roam the streets because it is their religious belief that cows are sacred; cows roam the streets in Nigeria, not for religious reasons but because the present government believes that cows are more precious than human lives. Of the two scenarios, reasonable minds would give more deference to India simply because their reason is rooted in their religion, which can't be said of Nigeria. I am not sure what your whole point was but I hope this helps you immensely! Buh Bye!

Why would one "give more deference to a cow in India simply because their reason (not of all, by the way), is rooted in their religion"? Is a cow not just a cow wherever it is?

Not everyone gives "more deference to a cow", not even in India! You can educate yourself here if you care to.

Stephani3e:
some men are pigs, not all men.

On this I beg to differ! All men are pigs!

Just my opinion though. My brain goes in to 'off mode' where pigs are concerned.

Martinez39:
. Okay, I will wait for the result. I heard it would announced on the 26th, I am not sure. By the way,
1) what are the policies I stated?

* who becomes the leader of the EU
* controlled border
* banning Muslim immigration

I presume.

Martinez39:
2) what are the policies you don't want?

Banning people because of their religion, to name but one. We (Europe), have been there before. Read up what 'we' did to the Jews.

Martinez39:
3) what do you mean by "we"? Why try to speak as if the british people are on your side?

"We", "the people", as democratically determined by a majority, and not by some fringe minority like those few you mentioned in Hungary!

Martinez39:
Your perspective doesn't have to be my perspective.

That, 39, is the exact definition of beans is not beans, lol! But anyway, back to topic.

Euroskeptic parties have always existed within the European Parliament. But they’ve struggled to wield substantial influence. Their staunchly nationalistic views aren’t exactly a successful formula for cooperation in the pan-European political body. But the current crop of far-right leaders are trying something different this year: attempting to build a cross-continent alliance of anti-EU parties. They’re betting that by working together, they can weaken — and remake — the EU from within.

If the parties listed in the article win enough seats they'd be proposing the policies you listed.

Martinez39:
She is a traitor of democracy and a traitor to her nation. I rest my case here, I shall say nothing more on this issue.

That's your opinion, or rather your beans. While my beans is that Cameron is the traitor.

Or do I need to remind you again that my beans does not have to be your beans?

Martinez39:
Please read my post. Can the people vote for who becomes the leader of the EU? Can the people vote to have a controlled border? Didn't the EU threaten Hungary when they democratically wanted to fulfil the will of the people by banning Muslim immigration? Buda!

Democracy, 39. If the numbers are there for what you suggest that's exactly what would happen. Just you observe the results of the election held all over Europe yesterday. The European Parliament are worried we'd all vote for people who would implement those policies you stated. Thankfully, those policies are not what we want, as you'd see by those we have voted for.

Karleb:
It was initially Cameron, now it's May.

I do hope the next PM will not resign before this brexit that is always coming soon.

We need an election!