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Christianity Etc › Re: Mary Is Not The Mother Of God by budaatum: 7:13pm On Oct 30, 2018
solite3:
can a son exist before his mother?
No.
solite3:
if the son existed before the mother it means he is not really the son of the woman.
Agreed
solite3:
This is so simple! Jesus is both man and God correct
Accepted
solite3:
Mary is the mother of Jesus correct
So they say
solite3:
Mary is the mother of God incorrect
why?
Excuse me? If Mary is the mother of Jesus, and if Jesus is God, then Mary is the mother of God, just as she would be the mother of a doctor or lawyer if that was what Jesus was!

This thread is an example why Muslims get to laugh at Christians. It is this sort of reasoning you display that makes atheist call this fairytales! Even while typing you should have seen how silly you sound! Just listen to yourself. From the above, is it not clear enough that Jesus can not be the God, since he only came into existence after being born by his mother, Mary, while God is said to have always existed? No wonder the Jews chose to obey God's command not to worship other gods!

If Jesus is a god, Mary is logically, a mother of a god. And any woman who gives birth to a whole god should be revered even as a god in her own right! But mind, if Jesus is a god, you are worshipping a different god to God, and two gods if you worship both, and three gods if you include the Holy Spirit! The word for it is polytheism!

Now, won't "Christians Are Polytheists" be a good topic for a thread. I pray someone oblige.
Politics › Re: This Happened Nigeria And Everyone Is Keeping Quiet by budaatum: 4:10pm On Oct 30, 2018
boladez:
Dick head...read the report below

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/10/army-confirms-3-dies-in-shiite-troops-clash-in-abuja/

Your inability to read relevant material is damaging to your brittle brain
Thank you sir!

Whether na shite or ipob de stone army, dem all mad! Dem wan capture ammunition begin war!

Abeg, army never shoot una reach finish die sef, these enemies of Nigeria!
Politics › Re: This Happened Nigeria And Everyone Is Keeping Quiet by budaatum: 4:01pm On Oct 30, 2018
bantudra:
sooo,they should just allow them carry away the weapons....??

have you people forgoting that it was a weapons transport.....??
Was it? Didn't know that!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel According To Luke by budaatum(op): 3:55pm On Oct 30, 2018
jesusjnr:
And Jesus himself kept this, for he's not one to give an instruction and do otherwise, as this can be seen when he spake in parables to the crowd but later on would expound it to his disciples.
And yet, there he was, constantly confronting swines by casting his more valuable possession (his Word), and his most valuable possession (his Life), before swines who know not what they do.

I guess different instructions to different folks. Even God is not said to have sent Gabriel to do the works best suited to Michael.
Christianity Etc › Re: "I Believe I Will Go To Heaven Because I Live By The Golden Rule." by budaatum: 1:52am On Oct 30, 2018
LordReed:
Did you bother watching it? I am not ready to watch a dumb 55min video.
Of course I didn't! There's no way I'm allowing his stupid to take up that much of my time! That fool casts pebbles and thinks they are pearls.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Brain Of An Atheist Intelligently Designed? by budaatum: 1:48am On Oct 30, 2018
OLAADEGBU:
"Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you" (Matthew 7:6).
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel According To Luke by budaatum(op): 1:46am On Oct 30, 2018
jesusjnr:
Not at all for what else are such gems meant for, but to be disseminated to men, that they would be converted or even grow and develop spiritually for those are already so. However we speak of the importance of the doing part of Jesus words, and Jesus instructed me not to gives such gems to those who would see it as thrash, otherwise they would trample it under their feet, and then come to tear me apart. Hence this is only done in obedience to his words for i wouldn't want to be one of the foolish ones, would i? So i don't have any problem giving such to those that are able or willing to discern its value but when i'm certain that it's just a joker, i desist
This is the WWW, where many are on here who are like good soil on whom pearls fall and grow and produce abundant fruit. Many hardly say much, but they exist, diligently working away like the poor woman who secretly presents her offering at the temple. Then there are the legends, the dead soil, on whom pearls don't grow. To be obedient is to not waste time with the dead except to be mindful that also on those who are the good soil would one's pearls fall and grow.

It is therefore my own opinion that one must cast ones pearls even before swines. It afterall is not the case that one can run out of pearls nor can pearls be eaten by swines so one can always pick them up and clean them even after they have been trampled on. It is those who are poor in pearls who need to be misers and fearful of swines. Misers store up what they think are pearls only for them to be eaten by moths!

Be not like those who hide their talent for fear they would lose it, jesus jnr. Jesus himself cast forth even his life so how much less one's mere pearls? Be like the birds and the bees and worry not about swines for it is not true that they can tear you apart, not even a single hair can they touch. Those who are rich in pearls must be more generous to the point of giving away all their richest pearls knowing they fall on the good and the bad.

Remember that those who give are recompensed, even a thousand fold plus some. That which is abundant in the heart never runs out.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel According To Luke by budaatum(op): 5:59pm On Oct 29, 2018
jesusjnr:
Onething i initially wanted to clarify with such ones who emphasize to "believe" and not to "obey", but changed my mind when i saw the extent of their blindness, so as not waste such treasures on them, is what they meant by "believe" because i've come to realise that same word means different things to different people. For instance when Jesus used the word in "For God so loved the world..." he meant "obey" but it was typical Jesus doing what he does best in hiding those gems of the kingdom from the blind and unwilling, but revealing them to those who are willing to see. And you can get the Jesus version from other sayings of his such as: "...if any man keeps my saying, he shall never see death"(Jn 8:51), in other words he shall not perish right? And "i know his command is life everlasting, what i speak therefore even as the father said to me so i speak"
Jesus is not written to have said, "For God so loved the world"! Nowhere in the Bible is that verse said to have been said by him. It's in fact, such an out of context statement that one can only assume someone thought to add it to the chapter. Despite that, interpreting it in light of what Jesus is written to have said, "believe" hardly conveys his message. Nor would it be a problem if many do not literally understand that more than mere 'believing' is meant, despite the numerous verses that suggest it isn't.

I would suggest that the time is right to reveal the "gems of the kingdom" to the "blind and unwilling". Not doing so might be deemed as hiding one's light, and finding treasure and keeping it to oneself. If I'm not wrong, the punishment is to spend "three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish".
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel According To Luke by budaatum(op): 5:58pm On Oct 29, 2018
Christianity Etc › Re: "I Believe I Will Go To Heaven Because I Live By The Golden Rule." by budaatum: 5:24pm On Oct 29, 2018
OLAADEGBU:
Why don't you just say that you haven't got enough data to watch it and save us of all these excuses? undecided
Don't have enough with indoor unlimited wifi? You funny!
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Brain Of An Atheist Intelligently Designed? by budaatum: 3:28pm On Oct 29, 2018
LordReed:
The hypocrite just pulls out conclusions from his arse like a crazy person. Its like talking to a brick wall.
It indeed is like talking to a brick wall., except a brick wall would be hard pushed to be an ass and come up with the nonsense he comes up with!
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Brain Of An Atheist Intelligently Designed? by budaatum: 3:26pm On Oct 29, 2018
OLAADEGBU:
Have you quickly forgotten that you claimed that your paternal ancestors came down from the heavens? Except you are saying that atheist evolutionists are actually idol worshippers.
How do you go from "paternal forebears came down from heaven", to "buda worships paternal forebears"? And where did you get that buda is an "atheist evolutionists"?

You seriously need to stop reading what one writes through your biased lenses, and perhaps become as a child and read without being blinded by your own adult filled blindness.

The children of Oba Sorun do not worship. We leave such nonsense to the likes of you who feel the need to worship the gods that have been created for you!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel According To Luke by budaatum(op): 3:16pm On Oct 29, 2018
jesusjnr:
Bros i dey hail oh! I dey see your handwork oh and i wanted you to know that. I for say God bless you but as you know believe say hin dey, i go talk the 'God' in the spirit and 'bless you' in the physical.
There's another fundamental error made by some religious people. They tend to reduce the existence of God to a belief, as if, if one does not believe God exists, God disappears in a puff of disbelief and stops existing. If they did not think this way, they would not bother arguing whether God exists or not. For if God truly exists, they would accept that God created all regardless, even the atheist who says otherwise. It's why, if I were a Christian, I would not ever insult God by claiming "I believe my God exists", since I would more than believe, and know my God exists!

It's unfortunate too that people treat Jesus Christ as a god, even though he proclaimed himself a human being. It allows them to disregard the essence of his ideology as contained in the Bible and bow down and worship him instead of doing his will. And when they see someone else driving out demons they try to stop them, because, according to them, "they do not believe as we do". They do not understand that receiving "even a cup of water" does not depend on the faith of the giver, but on the faith of those who "bear the name of Christ" who are in receipt of the "cup of water", for they "will never lose their reward".

But as is said, not to everyone is the gospel preached. While the blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cleansed, the deaf hear, and the dead are raised - whether they believe or not - the good news itself is proclaimed to the poor, for they are not blinded by spirits! Those who are blinded by spirits "preach Christ out of envy and rivalry". But those who mud has been spat on and rubbed in their eyes and can see, "preach out of goodwill". "The latter do so out of love. The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble." If they but comprehended, they would know that what matters is that "one conduct oneself in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ", which is "do my will". And not the mere uttering of "lord, lord" and "I believe", which even devils do.

Quotations for this post are from the baav.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Brain Of An Atheist Intelligently Designed? by budaatum: 12:31pm On Oct 29, 2018
OLAADEGBU:
Who said that you are an atheist? There are hardly any atheist in Nigeria, what we have are witches, wizards, New agers and traditionalists all fronting as 'atheists.' Watch the film and see how your gods became idols that you are worshipping today. smiley
Where did you get, "There are hardly any atheist in Nigeria" ? Cooked it up in your head as usual? All the same, you accept there are some atheists in Nigeria, since "hardly", does not imply, 'none at all'.

Consider me one of the exceptions. I do not worship idols, which is what all gods are. Maybe you should be watching your own videos to learn this!
Politics › Re: Kanu Presents Map Of Biafra To Israeli Nation by budaatum: 2:58am On Oct 29, 2018
Why is that ijiot including Kano State in his Biafria? Did Kano State tell him they no more want to be Nigerians!

Soon time now, he would be including Cameroon sef!
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Brain Of An Atheist Intelligently Designed? by budaatum: 2:47am On Oct 29, 2018
OLAADEGBU:
The videoclip will enlighten you on what your so-called gods really are. Watch it and thank me later. wink
"My so-called gods" � You're beginning to make me think you have a comprehension problem. Hardly the sort to be recommending videos to me!

Please tell, which bit of "buda is an atheist" have you missed?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel According To Luke by budaatum(op):
[url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+6%3A46-49&version=NIV]Luke 6:46-49[/url]

Lord Lordism!


There is indeed a sort of Christianity that could best be described as Lordism. It's fundamental characteristic is to elevate "Lord, Lord" over 'work work'! Somehow, those who practise, or rather, 'believe', have a complete disregard for "do my will". Or perhaps they've read somewhere that the will of their Christ is "believe as I do". They are quick to point to "For God so loved the world" and numerous other verses to justify believing with disregard to whatever other verses have to say on the topic.

Some must most certainly not have read that 'believe' is a thing shared in common with the devil. They further confound it with asking one to fear, which is also a thing devils do. Makes one wonder if satan has not overtaken even the minds of some without their knowing. Ironically, they are one's to evoke the antichrist when referring to others.

Considering "believe" was what those Christ continously argued with and against peddled, saying they gave people "stones instead of bread", one could say he absolutely abhorred such notions, and in fact claimed those who "act not on his words were foolish"! He himself appears to have some element of disbelief, or at least, not holding beliefs in such high esteem with his working on the Sabbath, equating himself with God, forgiving sins and dishonoring his parent to name but a few instances where he appears to disregard scripture.

James said, "Show me your faith without your works (beliefs), and I will show you my faith by my works (fruits)". The road is way narrower than to believe that the thoughts you cook up in your head would take you to a desired destination. Indeed, those who believe it would are foolish people who build on sand! The wise would know that rain will fall, torrents will rage, and the winds will blow them away, eventually!

I would say "understanding" is way more important than mere 'believing'. For when it is said that one should first "seek the Kingdom of God", surely, doing what even satan does could hardly be what could have been meant. Unless God loves satan too, of course!


For further discussion on this topic, see jesusjnr thread titled
Believing In Jesus Without Obeying His Words' Like Building A House On Sand
Politics › Re: Why using Hardship under Buhari to decide voting in 2019 is Unjustified by budaatum: 4:54pm On Oct 28, 2018
life2017:
What did Obama do? Obama increased US govt debt from 11trillion USD to almost 20 trillion USD in eight years to bail out US economy. Obama simply borrowed his way out of recession.
Obama spent his way out of recession by investing! Now that the fruits of his investments are ripening, everyone says "trump done it"!

Goes to show that even America has it's lazy youths!
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Brain Of An Atheist Intelligently Designed? by budaatum: 4:00pm On Oct 28, 2018
OLAADEGBU:
Watch the film and get enlightened about where your ancestors came from. cool
Did I not just tell you where my ancestors came from? Or do you think I need you telling me?

Some people sha! One just has to kot!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 3:57pm On Oct 28, 2018
JeromeBlack:
So, are you ready to join/create one?
Would join. I'd be too dictatorial to create one.
Christianity Etc › Re: BREAKING: 39% Of Icelanders Have “little Or No Trust” In The National Church!!! by budaatum: 2:09am On Oct 28, 2018
Niflheim:
Iceland is the nation where literally 0.0% of people under 25 reject the idea that God created the universe.
As pointed out in the comments, everyone in Iceland accepts that God created the universe?

Maybe they do their worshipping somewhere else then, lol!
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Brain Of An Atheist Intelligently Designed? by budaatum: 1:06am On Oct 28, 2018
OLAADEGBU:
If that videoclip is too technical for you then I'll suggest that you watch 'Abejoye' in the following thread --> https://www.nairaland.com/61791/top-ten-gospel-movies-drama#down
"ignorant", is the word I used. I don't think it means the same as "too technical", degbu!
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Brain Of An Atheist Intelligently Designed? by budaatum: 12:41am On Oct 28, 2018
OLAADEGBU:
I noticed that you stopped at your great, great, great grandparents. How did they get here? undecided
Seems I preempted you. We do have this mind reading ability!
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Brain Of An Atheist Intelligently Designed? by budaatum: 12:39am On Oct 28, 2018
I only survived 4 minutes of your video, sorry. The interviewer showed way too much ignorance for me to go any further wasting my time!

I never said I evolved. I was born, by my parents who were born by their's, who were born by the their's, who were born by their's, who were born by their's, who were born by their's, who were born by their's, who were born by their's, and so on, at least on my mother's side.

On my paternal side, go back way further and you'd eventually get to my first paternal forebears, the Oba S'Orun. They came down straight from the heavens of their own free will from where they ruled the entire universe. Now we do the begatting in the bedroom thing, commonly called 'to be born', at least to lay people like you. The actual process takes 9 months because it involves a trip to the heavens. The Omo Oba S'Orun, we the offspring of my forebears the Oba S'Orun, go to the heavens to bring forth our offspring. That's why we are known as a ti orun wa si aye. You can hardly expect us, the Omo Oba S'orun, to bow down to gods now, can you, since it is an abomination!

Hmm. Perhaps your's forebears might not do the begatting in the bedroom thing afterall, which is why you must worship gods. Or are you too Omo Oba S'Orun?
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Brain Of An Atheist Intelligently Designed? by budaatum: 11:48pm On Oct 27, 2018
OLAADEGBU:
And how did your mummy and daddy get here? undecided
My grandparents went into their bedrooms, did what adults do, and 9 months later daddy was born by his parents, then mummy was born by hers. Amazing, isn't it! According to my mummy and daddy, their grandparents did the same thing, as my grandparents did - enter the bedroom - as did the parents of their parents, my great great great grandparents.

I think there's something in that their bedroom entering thing. They do this thing in there called begatting and 9 months later, there's this thing they call a baby, which grows up and begats. Don't you have it in your family? I thought everyone's parents had one and begat!

How did your mummy and daddy get here, degbu?
Christianity Etc › Re: HOMOSEXUALITY! What Is Wrong With It? by budaatum: 10:49pm On Oct 27, 2018
Gay Penguins become parents!

Sphen and Magic -- or Sphengic, as they are collectively known -- proved themselves natural parents when they incubated a real egg from another couple that laid two during this year's breeding season.

The aquarium announced the birth on Twitter, saying: "Born Friday 19th October @ 5:46pm, weighing just 91g! Gender TBC in 2 months. Both dads are doing well and are so in love with their precious bub."

Sphen and Magic began developing a strong bond and became inseparable before breeding season, according to staff at the aquarium. Visitors would often spot the pair waddling around and going for swims together, which was why they were deemed to be suitable prospective parents.
Politics › Re: 2019 Presidency: Why I Call Atiku Corrupt – Keyamo Tells Senate by budaatum: 1:42pm On Oct 27, 2018
vedaxcool:
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I know most of you are morally deprave and would vote a flea infested pig as president, that remains your problem and your family's problem. I personally don't give a damn about such choice because a morally deprave person can do just about anything. My point is simple, Kayemo is very right when he says Atiku is corrupt.
Please, give a damn. If you don't give a damn, the next president of Nigeria would be a thief!
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 1:28pm On Oct 27, 2018
Abbeybailey:
And we have some right wing nuts here foaming in the mouth that the Democrats are doing the bombing to help their chances on Nov 6. Have you voted yet ?. Waiting for Nov 6 to send the Republikkkans away.
They know that Obama paid the bomber and Hillary put the stickers on his van. Perhaps you just did not get the memo lol!
Christianity Etc › Re: For Those Of You Atheists by budaatum: 1:23pm On Oct 27, 2018
There is a certain power in the word "atheist". I think it might be the one way to get religious posts to the frontpage or something or why else would people be creating threads with that word in their topics?

Seun, perhaps consider creating a thread for atheists alone. People could be mandated to swear an oath like "I know there are no gods", or, " my brain is in my head" before one posts in it. If you don't do this I will strongly consider talibanning your ass! If we threaten like some have done, I feel we could get you to do this for us, except, what would be the fun in not being challenged, I guess.

Op, your thread is lame! What you are asking us to do is create bulls doodoo in our heads and believe it exists without realising that is the exact thing that atheists are incapable of doing!
Christianity Etc › Re: The True Identity Of Catholic Mary by budaatum: 9:33pm On Oct 26, 2018
blueAgent:
Ubenedictus, solite3, Hundredfold4lif, Gggg102, UbiPetrus, KENFERDYOORI, budaatum, MuttleyLaff, Syncan
Isn't there a thread on here about Jesus being a pagan god? And one about even Yahweh wearing pagan clothes and being syncretised from various different gods? I feel someone would post me a link.
Christianity Etc › Re: "I Believe I Will Go To Heaven Because I Live By The Golden Rule." by budaatum: 3:50pm On Oct 26, 2018
LordReed:
Says the hypocrite who constantly lies and hates people. This is so rich hypocrite, so very rich. LMFAO!
He just mentions "Jesus" and becomes immune from God's wrath.
Christianity Etc › Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by budaatum: 8:12pm On Oct 25, 2018
johnydon22:
do we come with an inherent right or are all our rights granted to us by an authority? (Because I don't understand this statement)
Well, just think about it. Who's permission do I need to kill myself?

A right, I would think, is something society agrees to confer on one. Society has no say however in whether I terminate my life or not. Society can confer a right to life though by ensuring I am kept alive by providing healthcare. So, yes, granted by an authority would be correct.

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