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Sports › Re: England Vs Nigeria Friendly - 2 - 1 (Full-Time) by budaatum: 5:27pm On Jun 02, 2018

OkaiCorne:
I'll tell

Oh blast. Rumbled already!

Sports › Re: England Vs Nigeria Friendly - 2 - 1 (Full-Time) by budaatum: 5:25pm On Jun 02, 2018

I guess if we are attacking ourselves, we going to be leaving them free to knock the ball in.

Eng 1 - 0 Ngr

Sports › Re: England Vs Nigeria Friendly - 2 - 1 (Full-Time) by budaatum: 5:21pm On Jun 02, 2018

Joel Obi just fouled his teammate. Penalty!

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Sports › Re: England Vs Nigeria Friendly - 2 - 1 (Full-Time) by budaatum: 5:19pm On Jun 02, 2018

Sounds like we booing Dele Alli. British commentators sound surprised!

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Sports › Re: England Vs Nigeria Friendly - 2 - 1 (Full-Time) by budaatum: 5:13pm On Jun 02, 2018

Seat booked!

Don't no one tell them in the Religious section though please!

Christianity Etc › Re: Imagine Nigeria Bans Christianity And Islam! by budaatum(op): 5:06pm On Jun 02, 2018

Even I, would fight against the ban vaxx, or they'll soon come after me once they're done with the Christians, Muslims and the Pagans.

They'd claim I was an atheistian practising atheistianism or atheislim!

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Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Things in the Bible your Nigerian Pastor wont teach you by budaatum: 2:55pm On Jun 02, 2018

Thank you sir. The list of books show the Israelites do not live by one book alone. They are not afraid to dump old books in genizahs too and write new ones. I guess they ensure they've wrung out every word before dumping them!

Christianity Etc › Re: Imagine Nigeria Bans Christianity And Islam! by budaatum(op): 2:35pm On Jun 02, 2018

butterflylion:
Your words in bold just confirmed that it's not religion that is the problem BUT PEOPLE ARE.

Sometimes, you do use your brain. If only you would understand what you yourself wrote above. Religion (including atheism) is not the problem. There is hope for us yet.

Regarding the op. Only a totalitarian society would attempt to ban religion. But sneakily, what they would end up doing is impose their own religion (we tend to
refer to them as 'ideologies', but that simply is what a religion is too), on people with the same tyranny some think is reserved for the established religions. An example is what Lenin attempted to do by replacing the ideologies of Christianity with those of what he referred to as Scientific Socialism. Whether the former is better than the latter is still being determined by history, but the methods of imposition remain the same, as the brutal impositions of Christianity and Islam show.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by budaatum: 2:07pm On Jun 02, 2018

bobowaja:
He opposes everything their Jesus ever preached together with one aunty that called her name analice

No wonder someone once said "I like their christ but I don't like their Christians, because their christ is not like them"

Let me say it!
I love Christ. I will burn in hell if I were a Christian!

Christianity Etc › Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by budaatum: 2:04pm On Jun 02, 2018

Butterflyleo:
Somehow when it comes to facts about atheists and atheism coming from a theist they all claim those facts which are readily available online were distorted by the atheist and twisted to be a lie.

But when an atheist declares anything against theists they hold it to themselves as true.

So much for self assessment and ability to criticise ones own ideology as they claim theists do not do this yet it is evident that they are very much guilty of the same.

Cc vaxx

Stop playing the victim. They are many threads about Christianity on here that no atheist has entered. Very many indeed. And there are some where atheists actually suspend their disbelief for the sake of conversation. I can't point to that happening in any thread you get involved in though as your sole reason for existing seems to be to open anti-atheist threads where you resort to the use of lies and vile language to promote your "hatred, bitterness and resentment"!

I know you wouldn't take my advice, but I do strongly advise that you sell the dud gun you bought that shoots the shooter and buy a mirror instead. Looking at yourself would benefit you more than the constant shooting of yourself that you currently are prone to doing.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by budaatum: 1:47pm On Jun 02, 2018

bobowaja:
That is the funniest thing. He wrote about himself. It is either he intentionally want to be insincere or his is out rightly deluded.

I hope it is intentional, for the fight would be against his simple flesh. He has been told many times over but refuses to acknowledge the fact. And if its delusion I'd have to worry more at his blindness and lack of the ability to reflect.

Either way, he does a disservice to Jesus Christ, in my opinion, by touting bigotry in his name.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by budaatum: 1:40pm On Jun 02, 2018

Butterflyleo:
Atheism : Not connected with religious and spiritual matters.

Please help me people. Does anyone agree that atheism is not connected with religious and spiritual matters?

In fact butter, are you not the one who opened a thread claiming the reason for the existence of atheists is religion?!

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Of John - A Study by budaatum(op): 1:19pm On Jun 02, 2018

luvmijeje:
The Book of John is distinct. My first time of reading it I saw Christ in a new light. I saw a fierce and a no nonsense person. His messages to the pharisee and scribes were lather. I saw a total description of Christ.

Very distinct that I confess to making a complete hash of it. For instance, I am not focusing on the mysticism in it, yet, and might not do so in this thread.

However, and hopefully, this reading still serves a purpose.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Of John - A Study by budaatum(op): 1:14pm On Jun 02, 2018

luvmijeje:
OP, You are an atheist? Why are you interested in the Bible?

It is a book read by many around me. Only a fool or one who has no interest in understanding their fellow human being would not read it. They would then fabricate lies to justify hating their neighbours. I refuse to be ignorant.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by budaatum: 1:08pm On Jun 02, 2018

Butterflyleo:
Your desire to go defensive out of guilt (as I earlier pointed out) is evident so I will stick to my earlier word and ignore you. Thank you

The guilt you assume I have, you mean. It doesn't appear to hinder me much, or haven't you noticed.

You are incapable of ignoring me butter. Your powers do not extend that far. However, I post not for you, but to correct the lies with which you attempt to sway opinion.

Those with eyes will not be blinded by your sort!

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by budaatum: 12:51pm On Jun 02, 2018

Butterflyleo:
http://news.gallup.com/poll/108625/more-religious-countries-lower-suicide-rates.aspx

Another concern is that countries that are more religious might tend to underreport suicides -- because of subpar medical documentation, or the added social stigma suicide carries in countries that are more religious.

In these data, however, homicide rates were actually somewhat higher in countries that are more religious.

In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.

Butterflyleo:
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a2a902ee4b022ec613b812b/amp

Yes, atheists like many other marginalized minorities can be prone to depression and even suicide in large part due to the horrible behavior of many in the religious majority. We live in a world dominated by people who often fervently believe ancient superstitions and who many times demonize, harass, ostracize, and disown those who lack belief in those ancient superstitions. Atheists on the receiving end of this treatment are understandably stressed and isolated. They often experience anxiety and depression as a result.

Butterflyleo:
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/Thread-Why-Do-Atheists-Have-the-Highest-Suicide-Rates

This final one is like using your own rhetoric to justify yourself. Kind of like your loaded gun that shoots both ways, to be honest!

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by budaatum: 12:28pm On Jun 02, 2018

Butterflyleo:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

Soviet law never officially outlawed the holding of religious views, and the various Soviet Constitutions always guaranteed the right to believe.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by budaatum: 12:24pm On Jun 02, 2018

Butterflyleo:
You can go ahead and petition the owners of the links I referenced.

Na, not really. I just need to point out how you twist and fabricate your facts! People are not stupid. They can see the truth when it is presented.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by budaatum: 12:21pm On Jun 02, 2018

Butterflyleo:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Tigers_of_Tamil_Eelam

Below is an example of your gun shotting both ways!

The LTTE was a self-styled national liberation organization with the primary goal of establishing an independent Tamil state. Tamil nationalism was the primary basis of its ideology. The LTTE was influenced by Indian freedom fighters such as Subhas Chandra Bose. The organization denied being a separatist movement and saw itself as fighting for self-determination and restoration of sovereignty in what it recognized as its homeland. Although most Tigers were Hindus, the LTTE was an avowedly secular organization; religion did not play any significant part in its ideology.

I strongly advise you buy your guns from reputable dealers so you don't shoot yourself!

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by budaatum: 12:10pm On Jun 02, 2018

Butterflyleo:
As pointed out in the OP.

This is clearly evident in the language of the comment from the atheist who is one step above me.

Oh, we need not go outside this thread to "see hatred, bitterness, resentment and vile language all roled into one" butter. There is enough "hatred, bitterness, resentment and vile language" in the original post in this thread!

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by budaatum: 12:04pm On Jun 02, 2018

Butterflyleo:
You can use the loaded gun term to mean a two sided coin or words though attempted to focus on others were actually focused on ourselves.

I could if I wanted to, but I do prefer not to twist illogical analogies to prove my point as discerning readers would see right through my shody attempts to justify the unjustifiable!

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by budaatum: 12:02pm On Jun 02, 2018

Butterflyleo:
His arm twisting technique evident in his method of writing is meant to trigger you emotionally and force words of defence from you. This method of his is already captured in the OP.

The op itself was intended to trigger emotion and force words of defence butter, and you know it was!

And you also know the last thing you intend to do on this thread is take a dose of the medicine you advise others to take, as that would defeat your intention.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by budaatum: 11:54am On Jun 02, 2018

Butterflyleo:
Do remember that you are holding a loaded gun that points both ways with a feather trigger.

This is a religion section of this forum last time I checked and it is actually atheists who invaded it and decided to focus on the twig in our eyes while deliberately ignoring the forest of thorn bushes in their eyes.

I hope I helped reset your thinking.

You would have to take that up with the mods butter, for if as you say, that is a rule, you need just report me and get me banned.

As to the loaded gun that points both ways, it is as I have suggested in my post, perhaps consider that it points at you too. Though, to be accurate, loaded guns do not point both ways, least not as far as I can recall!

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Of John - A Study by budaatum(op): 11:46am On Jun 02, 2018*

John 5

We atheists would point out contradictions in the Bible and literally speaking, this is one (and apart from whether the Sabbath is Sunday or the day before, which is of contention itself), for is it not written that thou must: "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates. For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy."

Yet here is Jesus claiming certain types of work are acceptable, including cutting ears off corn to eat on the Sabbath, healing the sick and getting ones sheep out of a well. Are holy works then acceptable (though cutting ears off corn would have to be stretched to fit, as would minimising ones loss down the well!) I would suggest that it would have been correct for Jesus to postpone the healing of the invalid of thirty-eight years. What difference would a day make afterall, though reading today that he did so would rather enslave him to Scripture.

Perhaps this stands as an example of what it might mean to fulfil the law, as God would have to be quite wicked if say the Priest, the Levite and the Samaritan had all refused to help the man who had been robbed because no work should be done on that day. I guess, for the parable to hold, the Samaritan would have returned the next day to help. Thankfully, that's not the issue in that parable, as it would only have complicated issues further!

It should be noted that the no Sabbath work rule did not prevent Joshua from marching around Jericho for seven consecutive days, nor did it prevent the chief priest Jehoiada from organizing a palace coup on the Sabbath in order to remove queen Ataliah from the throne and replace her with Joash, so, Jesus had precedence to justify his Sabbath work.

One could argue that he adopts Isaiah's view of "rather than going one's own way or do idly as one pleases on the Sabbath, one should do that which is holy", and what is holier than loving other sentient beings?

"You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life," says Jesus. As is my wont, I'd say, "Some believe because they think in doing so they have eternal life". Seems to me like Jesus saw it differently.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by budaatum: 10:30am On Jun 02, 2018*

Butterflyleo:
As I chat with atheists here on nairaland I tend to also study them and their styles of argument which unknown to them, projects their mental states through their writing and I have come to discover a few rather shocking things as I studied them.

The great pity is that unbeknown to you, it would seem, your style of argument projects your mental state, and if you could only see, you would find what you've written here applies to you.

But one need not bother about the forest in ones own eye, I suppose, when one can focus better on the twig in the eye of others.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel According To Luke by budaatum(op): 10:19am On Jun 02, 2018

[url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+5%3A27-32&version=NIV]Luke 5:27-32[/url]

“Why does Jesus eat and drink with Muslims and atheists?”

Christianity Etc › Re: MAN SENTENCED TO DEATH FOR FARTING IN MOSQUE DURING RAMADAN by budaatum: 8:52pm On Jun 01, 2018

vaxx:
I just want to entertained is ignorance bro.... I hope he is not a moderator, it will be a disaster

If he's a moderator, he's a crappy moderator and should be sacked!

Christianity Etc › Re: MAN SENTENCED TO DEATH FOR FARTING IN MOSQUE DURING RAMADAN by budaatum: 8:30pm On Jun 01, 2018

vaxx:
so what are you saying? Is the op content true ? Your links says it is satire......

I think he's saying god didn't give him his brain, or he didn't read before typing!

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Christianity Etc › Re: MAN SENTENCED TO DEATH FOR FARTING IN MOSQUE DURING RAMADAN by budaatum: 6:33pm On Jun 01, 2018

[url=https://www.thequint.com/amp/story/news%2Findia%2Ffake-pakistan-man-sentenced-to-death-for-farting]Hoax Alert: Pak Man Sentenced to Death for Farting Was Satire[/url]

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Christianity Etc › Re: MAN SENTENCED TO DEATH FOR FARTING IN MOSQUE DURING RAMADAN by budaatum: 6:19pm On Jun 01, 2018

espn:
Why should people just cook up lies against a religion?

Because it makes them feel better about themselves.

People with mature brains have at least asked if the man was insane, or why he wasn't sentenced for farting in the second mosque, if not in the first! A simple check shows it's fake news!

Christianity Etc › Re: Palestinians Need To Know This... by budaatum: 3:47am On Jun 01, 2018

Anas09:
Very correct, by our actions (fruits)we are known, For without Faith it is impossible to please God.

No Anas, you have not called me a fool at all, and I am not claiming you have. I would go even further and claim you will forever find it almost impossible to say a rude word to me. You might think it is your faith that would stop you, though note how it only seems to work with one single atheist whom you dearly find yourself loving! It must indeed be the power of God manifesting in you!

Now, to th above. You cannot possibly know what pleases God when it comes to someone else, for God might just have different missions for different people. It is as Christ said when John sent some to ask if he was the messiah, "the lame walk, the blind see, and to some the gospel is preached", different strokes for different folks see.

Do not be blinded by ones beliefs dear, for our actions are way more important than the thoughts that we hold in our heads as I have tried to show you with the Samaritan's parable, and as this thread itself testifies to. Those with Christ seem more antichristlike while we who are without, well....... Or do you really think God would care more about ones beliefs or ones faith than ones actions?

I advise you find out why Christ specifically chose the Samaritan for that parable. The hint is that according to the Israelites of his time, even the gentiles and dogs would make heaven before a Samaritan would since the Samaritans did not hold the right beliefs. It is like some Christians today believe Muslims would not enter heaven, yet there was Christ asking which one of them was more likely to, the priest and the Levite who both worshipped God, or the Samaritan who didn't but loved his fellow human being. Some who call "Lord, Lord" will gnash their teeth, scripture reads.

All said, you have stated your belief. You have however not considered what I said and which you claimed looking at would not be as I stated. As to I, an atheist, teaching a Christian how to behave, you are correct, I do no qualify. However, I look at you, a human being, and think I have not done too bad, or would you disagree?

Atheistically do I end with, the peace of the Lord is with you, just so my stance is not mistaken.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Was Never A Christian - Aroms Aigbehi by budaatum: 4:32pm On May 31, 2018*

Adieza:
I often wonder how the people in Israel feel anytime they see Christian pilgrims in their country.

One thing Israelites are not, is stupid. If God sells, they set up shop.

According to Wiki 3.6 million tourist visited Israel in 2017 yielding a 25 percent growth since 2016. They contributed NIS 20 billion, equivalent to 5.6 billion US Dollars, and about a quarter of Nigeria's education budget in the same year to the Israeli economy.

Then there's the goodwill they receive as a nation from all the Christians who worship their god. I assure you more people from around the world would die to defend them than any nation on earth.

If so many people came to Nigeria and spent so much money, and were willing to shed blood on your behalf, would you object to them coming to worship some fake mammywater in the desert?

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