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dalaman:
He should tell us when he saw the oceans been created.

winner01:
Honestly bro, I believe you bro, I've never had to admit this but I will; I never saw a creator creating my Honda accord, neither can I honestly say that I saw a creator creating the smoke that emanates from the exhaust pipe.

I fully admit that the exhaust smoke, just like stones or goosebumps do not directly require a creator.

I also agree to a large extent that you might have seen things that have not been directly created by a creator, but what I can strongly suggest is that everything in existence is product of Creation forms. Goosebumps are not directly created, thy are more like by products of creation, just like stones or smoke or snow.

They are all major or minor effects, to which there are causes.

winner01:
creation always requires a creator.

winner01:
The cause of a result.

Anas09:
@bolded. True.

But i don't insult personalities, i don't.

winner01:
in my opinion, the result of a process.

winner01:
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Have you seen creation without a creator?

winner01:
Are stones not supposed to be small rocks? I've forgotten the process of rock formation I learnt while younger, but rocks are formed right?

winner01:
I didn't have to go far. Its like saying snow has no creator.

winner01:
Have you seen any creation without a Creator?

Anas09:
But, if i do what the Bible commands there, you'd call me Potty mouth. See? When i told, 'If i sin in my words i know', i meant it.

I don't attack personalities, but what they do.

winner01:
Originally? Can you give me proof?

Historically, any person who did not believe in any deity supported by the state was fair game to accusations of atheism, a capital crime. For political reasons, Socrates in Athens (399 BCE) was accused of being atheos ("refusing to acknowledge the gods recognized by the state".


Christians in Rome were also considered subversive to the state religion and persecuted as atheists. Thus, charges of atheism, meaning the subversion of religion, were often used similarly to charges of heresy and impiety as a political tool to eliminate enemies. Wiki


An Atheista ; one who rejected the gods worshipped by the wider society.


ath'-eh-os Adjective
without God, knowing and worshipping no God
denying the gods, esp. the recognised gods of the state


“[R]emember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God [atheoi] in the world” (Eph 2:12). In describing them in their pre- Christian life as atheoi (“without God”)

The fools are not limited to those who openly state, “ There is no God”; the y include those who profess belief in God but live as though he does not exist.
The Only “Atheists” in the Bible

HappyPagan:
I could cut off your limbs, eyes and ears, and you'd still be able to survive.. Damage to the brain will yield a different tale.

A computer can't function without a RAM.

HappyPagan:
But the 'self' today may not be the same tomorrow... Self is revealed as we walk through time and experience. The 'self' is never stagnant, always changing and adapting, the story of survival.

HappyPagan:
I think self is an illusion, one formed and moulded by environment and nature on one hand. But whether that illusion holds as one grows into maturity and self-awareness, that's an area where I find myself unable to put my exact thoughts in words.

plaetton:
Lol.
Good try friend.

But, Louis Pasteur did much greater for humanity by painstaking showing that indeed germs, not six or seven demons, were the primary causes of diseases ,and ultimately, death.
And humanity has not been the same ever since.

dalaman:
How many amputees do you know that have been healed in the name of Jesus?

plaetton:
And Jesus, alleged son of God, supposedly cured leppers and polio victims, but apparently forgot to inform them that these diseases were caused by germs

Primesky:
At the mention of the name of Jesus Christ, every knee shall bow.

dalaman:
Jesus lied. You can NOT do anything they said Jesus did because his promise to you remains a lie lie promise. You can NOT do it.

dalaman:
When did the Gods become so powerless? I mean, when someone says "God", I'm expecting stuff from the first list, not something that's indistinguishable from an idea, made by humans and spread by humans.

vchykp:
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Peacefullove:
If flesh and blood can't inherit heaven, Why is Jesus still human ?
A contradiction ?

Peacefullove:
- Secondly, that flesh and blood according to bible cannot inherit heaven , isn't this a contradiction ?

HappyPagan:
But what we seek for has no physical trait... the thoughts that make you, the ideas and symbols through which you view the world, the thoughts that form your habits and behaviors... are you your brain, or is your brain you?

hmm... I'll need some help here. where does the self exist? Anyone from the audience? Is self an illusion? If it's, who's having the illusion?

Peacefullove:
but unfortunately this perfect human body have scars all over it , how could Jesus perfect human body still have scars?

Over to you, enlighten me

Bethankful:
I really wish you understand but you don't

FannySwindler1:
Budaatum. I want kids because I love kids. And won't be bad idea I have mine. At least I can give them good life.

FannySwindler1:
Budaatum. UjuJoan2 is only curious. She has no interest. People who have genuine interest have inboxed me and asked questions. And I have guaranteed them strict confidentiality. Zeb04 has been exposed here she is married. All I need is a genuine person.