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Christianity Etc › Re: When Will We Have The First Organised Theist/Atheist physical Debate In Nigeria? by budaatum: 11:44am On May 31, 2018
lilliesboy:
It was a great privilege and joy meeting Mr. Leo Igwe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Igwe
A Manifesto for a Skeptical Africa
Christianity Etc › Re: Palestinians Need To Know This... by budaatum: 9:10pm On May 30, 2018
peteregwu:
You are very funny......you been reading qur'an too much, right? grin
I don't remember the Quran has anything to say about it. Neither did I ask you to get your info from the Quran!
Christianity Etc › Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by budaatum: 2:36pm On May 30, 2018
Niflheim:
@op,

This doctrine encourages so many Christians to go into crime, with the mindset of................."I will repent after I finish stealing the money!!!"
Worst is the notion that all my future sins are already forgiven.
Christianity Etc › Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by budaatum:
And who is it that has gone to this heaven to check who was allowed in?

Or are you just asking what it is that you should believe?
Christianity Etc › Re: African Skin, Colonized Minds. by budaatum:
I too wait on vaxx! I am wondering if it will be claimed that the transplantation of my heart makes me a different person.
Christianity Etc › Re: Palestinians Need To Know This... by budaatum:
Anas09:
What does our God detest pls?
I would claim God detests those who do not do his will.

Anas09:
I hope you realize that the parables you mentioned above preaches Love, which does not say 'Love your Neighbours MORE THAN you love yourself. It says, Love your neighbour AS YOU LOVE YOURSELF.
Jesus never said we should stop living because we need our neighbours to live.
Good, so let's work with that alone, love, and not more than one loves oneself. In fact, the prayer, "Forgive us our trespasses" sets a nice limit on how much love one should have for others. "As much as one wishes to be loved" , to be exact. In effect, if one wishes to be loved a little, one just need love others a little, and the more loving one wants, the more one needs to love.

Be aware that I have replaced "forgive" , for "love" in the Lord's Prayer. I am not changing the law, just fulfilling its spirit.

And borrowing that, would I be correct in claiming God detests those who do not love others?

Now back to op. Have the Land grabbers not loved themselves at the expense of others by grabbing their land?

Anas09:
Dearest, as much as your intentions to see us Christians live according to Christ's teachings are noble, you as an atheist, can never know what the Life and teachings of Jesus means. You can only assume, but can't know.
I do not have any intention of seeing anyone live according to Christ's teachings! That is a choice every individual makes for themself, after all no one would be punished for the sins of buda and buda would not be punished for the sins of others!

As to an atheist not knowing "what the Life and teachings of Jesus means" , well, I guess that's an opinion, and one a certain Pharisee had that made him thank God he was not like that tax collector over there. It is also the lesson of the Good Samaritan. Are you aware they were considered in the same way Muslims are seen by some today? Yet, it does seem Christ was saying the Samaritan would enter the Kingdom of God way before the Priest and the Levite, both who believed, would.

There is a reason why some who call "Lord, Lord" will gnash their teeth, why there are many mansions in his Father's house, why common stones would be raised up to sing haleluya, and why some will hear from the mouths of babies.

Anas09:
Besides, you don't even know what it means, i mean the processes of Spiritual growth in a Christian. You assume that since we are Christians we automatically becomes perfect saints. Thank God that is not the way He assesses us.
If I believed Christians became perfect saints, do you not think I too would be a Christian?

Christianity simple shows a way and how to be so there would be peace on earth where the lamb would not be eaten by the lion. It is why the peacemakers are blessed. The Spiritual growth of a follower of Christ makes them the salt of the earth. I know you know the value of unsalty salt.

As for me, my credentials are displayed for you to observe if I understand the teachings or not. You may want to ask why an atheist detesting Christian might refer to atheist buda as "my dearest" and "my love", by the way. Is it because she sees the devils spirit in buda, perhaps?

By my fruit am I known, my dear, and not by mere words like "believe". I guess I can be said to be a James sort of guy than a Paulinite, I exhibit my actions, rather than my faith and let people see if my eye is dim or not.

Anas09:
It takes a life time for a naturally born child to mature to old age, so also with Spiritual birth. This is why i said, you can only assume but can never know the intricacies of being a believer.
As you well know, buda does not believe, nor does she consider 'believing' to be a virtue since even the devil is said to believe. You have claimed I "can never know the intricacies of being a believer", and you may be correct. I personally prefer to know than believe, as I see no virtue in what even the devil is said to do.

Go and read any of the Gospels. You would find that those who opposed Jesus Christ also believed, but I am certain you would not claim their believing was of any merit. I find a foundation based on knowing to be firmer than one based on mere believing.

I'll end this with that Pharissee and the atheist again and have you consider Christ words when the former says, "Thank you Lord that I am not like that atheist over there"!

“I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”

I refrain from saying an amen lest it be seen as buda cursing. But I will say, 'salt', as in, may you be salted.
Christianity Etc › Re: Palestinians Need To Know This... by budaatum: 2:43am On May 30, 2018
Anas09:
Dearly beloved, those instances you just mentioned, if we are to go over them, you'd see you are wrong
Wrong that Jesus did not teach in those instances that because a person calls on the same gods as one doesn't mean they really worship God?

Then educate me love. But note that your response as quoted already shows you acknowledge my point, albeit the inverse - that one who does not call on the same gods as one can be loved.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Peace Agreement Will Be Signed Between The Israelis And The Palestinians by budaatum: 4:18pm On May 29, 2018
Emmysteve:
as a watchman, are you not more than this?
He is no watchman, for his dim eye blinds his whole body so he can't see.

You though, Christ!
Christianity Etc › Re: Palestinians Need To Know This... by budaatum: 4:13pm On May 29, 2018
spartan117:
Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

The fruits of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, patience, etc.
You have failed to display any of these by your actions, yet you claim to be led by the spirit of God. I doubt that claim.
Amen
Christianity Etc › Re: Palestinians Need To Know This... by budaatum: 4:11pm On May 29, 2018
bloodofthelamb:
Stop saying your land. Even your life is not your own.
True. So if you killed me, no one should complain, and you should not get done for murdering me.

What a world you wish you lived in!
Christianity Etc › Re: Palestinians Need To Know This... by budaatum: 1:22am On May 29, 2018
michlins:
This same people supporting Israel will kill every of their uncle to claim their family land. If your God is a loving and just God and yet he will support a genocide against a nation, then I think you he and Gowon are brothers for the genocide against Biafran people and kids.
Its really sad that people blindly support those who claim to worship one's gods even when they do things those gods are supposed to detest.

Jesus preached numerous sermons against such stupidity (Parable of the Samaritan, the Pharissee and the tax collector, the gnashing of teeth, the mansions of his father's house, to name a few), but that lesson just seems to fly over some people's heads. What a waste of the blood of Christ if people can't learn the lessons wrote in it, I say.
Christianity Etc › Re: Palestinians Need To Know This... by budaatum: 1:13am On May 29, 2018
peteregwu:
But christ was born there, why didn't Jesus tell them to leave the land then? Bros, you just shot yourself in the foot.
Peter, go get yourself a Bible and read it. Then read some history too please. The land grab was way back in the early books. When it was grabbed, there was slaughter too so no one was alive to say "gi'me my land back Jew!" Many years passed after that and it just wasn't an issue when Christ was said to be alive, and besides, didn't it belong to Rome at the time?

After the first world war and much in between, Europe felt guilty for killing the Jews and offered them land to form their own nation. Are you aware they were offered Uganda? But the Jews of the time, who had never been to Palestine, dusted their Bible and said they wanted Palestine because, "that was the land their god had promised and given them", and Britain and USA just took it from its occupants and said, "there you go, have it". They had to lie and make various dodgy deals with the Arab nations and the Palestinians too to steal it from them and give it to the Jews whom actually, they detested and didn't want living in their countries!

The thing is that it might not have been the issue it is today if those land grabbing Jews hadn't gotten greedy and occupied more land than they were initially given. Now Palestinians watch lands their forefathers had cultivated and lived on for years being occupied by some other people who have no title to the land except for some god book!

Its very similar to how we treat the oil regions of Nigeria. We steal their resources, pollute their land so they can't grow or fish for food, and expect them not to complain! I'm sorry, but I would not like or accept it if I were the one treated the way the Palestinians or the inhabitants of Nigeria's oil regions are treated. It is not fair, and I can't accept any god worth worshipping should sanction such theft!

I've left out quite a lot of detail here so do some research and don't just take my word for it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Palestinians Need To Know This... by budaatum: 8:41pm On May 28, 2018
bloodofthelamb:
Did you or anybody create land? The God who created and owned has giving it to those who pleases him.

Can you tell me how the
vacateeland was formed? If you know.
So, because I might not know how land is formed, it's ok for some people to come kick me off my land because their god said they should?

I wonder how it would go down with you if I came over to you on your land, claim my god said its mine, and besides, because you don't know how the land was formed, it definitely is mine. You would pack up, say ok and leave the land for me right, you nice God fearing person?

Now try thinking how you'd act if some people turned up claiming your land was given to them by their god called say, Allah, and you should pack up and vacate the land! Pack up and go, right?
Christianity Etc › Re: A Peace Agreement Will Be Signed Between The Israelis And The Palestinians by budaatum: 1:44pm On May 28, 2018
MrPresident1:
America will not have an embassy in Jerusalem for atleast the next three years, this is all just so laughable.
I am laughing at you!
Christianity Etc › Re: Palestinians Need To Know This... by budaatum: 1:32pm On May 28, 2018
MrPresident1:
You dare to open your stinking cesspool of a mouth to insult your maker, you piece of nothing? You wait for your just recompense. antichrist.
This has nothing to do with Christ. Christ would never advocate stealing other people's land, and he sure wouldn't have kind words to say about you and your god!

But why wait for your god to dish out recompense? You come over here and serve out that recompense yourself for your maker seems incapable!
Christianity Etc › Re: Palestinians Need To Know This... by budaatum: 1:25pm On May 28, 2018
peteregwu:
Mr man, why not go and collect the land from Israel na.what are you there ranting about, go join Palestine and where suicide vest. Mtcheeee.... The land belongs to Israel whether you like it or not.
It pains me not that they stole it. What pains me is stupid people who think its ok to have done so.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Nigeria Considered A Christian Or A Muslim Country ? by budaatum: 4:25am On May 28, 2018
Nigeria is a multi-religious nation. We are not secular at all as religion has a great influence on us. The constitution is in no way specific on this issue.
Christianity Etc › Re: Palestinians Need To Know This... by budaatum: 2:16am On May 28, 2018
I wonder how you'd feel if some people turn up to your land and inform you to move because "their god has given it to them". I bet you'd tell them to fuq off with their god. Except in this case, their god didn't say move, it told them to kill you and take the land for themselves, about 2000 years ago.

Now imagine, that many years later, some people turn up again and claim that land is their's because their god gave it to them 2000 years ago and it's written in their book so it's true, and besides, "we got the might of UK and USA behind us". I bet you'd say fuq off again.

But just because you are now convinced that those land grabbing people's god is your god, it's ok to go stealing other people's land, right, because your god says it's ok to do so and in your opinion, those other people don't worship your god so it's ok to take their land?!

If I were Palestinian, I would fight you to the very last breath of all my descendants, and I will be marrying many wives and having tons of children just so I don't run out of generations who will continue fighting you and your land stealing fake god and document which you wrote yourself but make the gullible believe your god wrote!

If you were one of the people who's land was being stolen, I bet you'd see the Palestinians point of view. If anything, this is the worst atrocity of the modern era, and the fact you claim your god sanctioned it is enough reason to kill your god off to be honest!
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Was God, Why Didn’t He Say Anything New Or Even Marginally Useful? by budaatum: 1:28pm On May 27, 2018
prinzfavian:
He came to salvage what was lost, our relationship with God...
I think he salvaged people's relationship with one another, for, "why claim to do for god in heaven whom ye see not while disregarding your neighbour who you do see?". (From the bau.)
Christianity Etc › Re: The Athanasian Creed Captures It Perfectly. Happy Trinity Sunday. by budaatum: 1:21pm On May 27, 2018
Guess there we have it. Only Catholics are going to heaven. Everyone else can go about creating the Kingdom of God or go to hell.

(I've assumed the KoG and heaven are different places).
Christianity Etc › Re: On The Jews And Their Lies... The Story By Martin Luther 1543 by budaatum: 1:16pm On May 27, 2018
I wonder if this is where Hitler got his justification from then.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel According To Luke by budaatum(op):
Luke 5:17-26

You are forgiven


The question is though, why are you not healed?
Christianity Etc › Re: RCCG Bans Long Beard At Weddings (Beard Gang Grooms And Groomsmen) by budaatum: 12:53pm On May 27, 2018
Earthbound:
I hope for the sake of both our sanities that you're being sarcastic.
I would suppose that the best response to "taliban beard" is sarcasm. I can just about imagine some RCCG members informing those with beards that god wouldn't let them into heaven. An appropriate response would be "O Lord God please make me an atheist!"
Christianity Etc › Re: Dear Christians... by budaatum: 11:58pm On May 26, 2018
eph12:
What does it mean to be a Christian?
It should mean allowing the ideas of Christ to influence one.
Christianity Etc › Re: Dear Christians... by budaatum: 11:56pm On May 26, 2018
There is profit for the Coca Cola salesman who converts Pepsi drinkers. If only they could convert the Guinness drinkers too, they pray.
Christianity Etc › Re: RCCG Bans Long Beard At Weddings (Beard Gang Grooms And Groomsmen) by budaatum: 11:40pm On May 26, 2018
Earthbound:
Even Jesus wore long beards.
And that's one reason to ban grooms and their friends from growing one. Some might think Jesus turned and married at RCCG!
Pets › Re: Help! Ruggedman Is Dying!! :-( by budaatum: 1:41pm On May 24, 2018
mhd5757:
My guy!! Just put the dog down and get another dog.
If not that you are finding market, I for go potty on you myself.

I was sleeping jeje and heard my dog. At first, I was like, "Oi, Get out!" But unusually it continued. Besides, it's an on the bed dog and never under, so I looked under the bed and saw dog shaking, shivering and foaming at the mouth. "What the fuq! Call ma!" Ma's a nurse, should know what to do, but before she arrived, dog dead! Some bastard had poisoned my dog!

The entire sky was rent asunder and I bawled like a baby who had been denied its mother's tit. I had trained that dog from 3 weeks old now 3 year old dog dead. Part of the consoling was what you said up there, "don't worry, you can get another dog". Like another dog could ever be my dead dog, right? Guess when ma dies, I needn't cry then either because, "don't worry, I can get another ma".

That dog died in '84, and while I've had dogs after that, something in me went with my dog. I've only shed a dead tear once since, and that was when grandma lay in her coffin giving me joke all night. It was just such a special dog.

Sorry about your dog Ishi.
Culture › Re: When We All Fake Accents by budaatum: 5:27pm On May 21, 2018
Then people like me turn up and folks claim even our Yoruba has a fake English accent.

I tire!
Family › Re: Marriage Kitchen Wars by budaatum: 5:18pm On May 21, 2018
Oh, one more thing op. I am likely to call you names and insult you if it is my nature to behave as your in-laws do. It is how I would justify my own scrounging - by defending other scroungers - and you would not be being smart if you consider my opinion in such circumstances.

Intelligent people would tell you to kick those scrounging in-laws out of your pot. They don't sound like they will be there to assist you when your pot is empty!
Family › Re: Marriage Kitchen Wars by budaatum:
tbanj07:
Food aint ordinary when there's little to go around for many
I wonder why people aren't hearing you say you are managing what you have! I wonder too how your wife would feel if your family helped themselves to her cooking. It wouldn't surprise me too if the servings they take for themselves is not much more than you get served. Or do you serve yourself too?

They are guests in your house and should not even be going into your kitchen if you asked me, and if your wife has any regard for her home, she would stop treating it like it were her and her siblings father's house!

You've told her. If they go in my pot again, I will not eat from that pot until new food is cooked, and I will go eat out, deducting the cost from what I give my wife until she gets the message (which, apart from cost, is a matter of respect!)

Personally though, my wife and I are on the same page, or "Houston", we got problems far greater than a pot of food in my kitchen, I think.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 3:16pm On May 21, 2018
4kings:
Where was this circus?
School trip when I was six. Can't remember where but could have been Finchley Park in North London. A circus was (and probably still is) set up there every summer, though without the animals these days as the 'treat animals like humans' brigade fought against perceived cruelty to animals in captivity.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Middle Path by budaatum: 11:01pm On May 20, 2018
LoJ:
The Middle path is the most difficult path, in my opinion. It requires to achieve a state of equilibrium and continue to maintain it.

Right paths practioners, believing in noble ideals and virtue, see the world as white and pink. Though more numerous, they are usually outpowered by nasty men who do not hesitate to cheat and fraud as the end justifies the means, in their perception.

Left path threaders on the other hand, getting used to cheating crookery and all sorts of perversions, unconsciously enter a vicious circle of passions and Lust, like an ever hungry beast which ends up totally out of control.

Forcing the mutually repulsive Ying and yang side of life to come together into a state of equilibrium, liberates unfathomable divine energy. This is the Middle path.
Om Mani Pädme Hum

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