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basilico:I can see the agony of thought that went into you writing the above double entendre. I mean, "most" and "usually", yet we all know you can't provide any evidence for this except from q who seem to think the FBI is omniscient because of social media. Do you want people arrested for their social media posts now all of a sudden? I have a suggestion of whom we should begin with if you agree. |
elated177:Fortunately, as you can see, my forebears did not "accept" what you think they should have accepted. My great grandparents for instance just accepted a book which they read, but they in no way accepted all the claims made in the book. My grandfather would tell you people go to church like they go to babalawos expecting Gods to provide them with their daily bread, he however accepted learning to read and understand what he read, which he instilled in his descendants, and my father, on reading the book, went further and refused to eat only bread, and I, his child, is buda. We evolved, you see. Unfortunately, on the other hand, many "accepted" the claims made in the book without quite understanding what they read, many thinking Gods wrote the book so they must believe it, while those who brought it to them have evolved to understand and utilise it so well that if you offer Nigerians the opportunity to migrate to the semi-heaven they've created, Nigeria would empty before you blink. It's a process, you see. We evolve from speaking as children and understanding as children and thinking as children who see in mirrors darkly and know only in part, into adults who put away childish things and know, and we have just not yet evolved enough, hence, hope. We would be worse off if we had not learnt to read with the books we were given. We sure would not be communicating what we communicate as we do. But blindly accepting and believing just shows we have a lot of growing up to do. |
Ibime:I think you assume he has a brain. I bet he'd be there proclaiming his son was protecting his rights to mass murder and would not see a connection, like some. |
Are you the "Coconut-head generation"? BBC: Peter Obi: The Labour Party candidate electrifying young Nigerians. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-61865502
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donjazet:One can be Obidient wherever one is. Location does not stop one seeing good things. https://www.nairaland.com/7174875/peter-obi-structure-100million-masses#113732194 |
elated177:I have answered you the best I can, elated. Pity he's long dead or I'd ask him for you. |
Okoroawusa:We know the op was propaganding out of fear. |
dazzlingd:No you don't need "ballot boxes snatchers, Thugs, corrupt party installed politicians that can help cohase and rig elections". In fact, that is the whole reason we are being obidient, so "ballot boxes snatchers, Thugs, corrupt party installed politicians" can not steal our ballots. We have faith in our ability to learn to police our ballots so no one steals them from us, you see, and you should have faith in yourself too. |
elated177:Elated, nowhere did I imply "accept" and "learn" are synonyms as you are trying to play off here! Accept, as in received the book when given it. And learnt to read it and learned from reading it too, obviously. Reading was the main thing as we are talking like late 18th early 19th century before schools or telly, though you might understand that I can't exactly claim "from that book" alone, since he preferred using his senses a lot and never liked bread. I mean, it is rather very difficult for one to pinpoint exactly what another learnt from a book. Reading the book, the only book he really read being as it was the only one he had in his language with the time to read, did widen his horizon and empower him immensely, I'd say I noted. His ability to read enabled him to become a tailor instead of a farmer. He made agbadas for the wealthy and for kings and earned a lot of money. I saw his learning more in how he reasoned. He was the first to adopt birth control with his 3 wives for instance, and the first to send his daughters to school abroad, two things very new in his day. Oro worshippers would never go past his father, my great-grandfather's yard and disturb his neighbourhood because he'd be sitting outside and oro would have to confront him to which he would invite his wives to come out and watch. My grandfather himself never believed what he was told and would say, "fi han mi" (show me), whenever he was told anything, and he was renowned for whipping a pastor out of his house because the pastor said God told him my grandfather should feed him. "Tell God to come tell me himself", the story goes, and even then I bet he'd question that God when it turned up. He would go around the family compound every morning looking for children who had not gone to school, and was noted for whipping their mothers for not sending them, to which my grandma, his wife, would give the money her children earned selling eko to the child's mother to pay the school fees. A very enlightened man was he, for his time. |
Maynman: budaatum: |
Maynman:I guess you must know what my name means more than I who's name it is. |
Maynman:You know this? So why would you think my name must only mean what you think it must mean? |
If Peter Obi accepts any such nonsense (I never bothered with the video by the way), we will all become disobedient!.Thankfully, he is much smarter than that. Or what's the difference between vice to Kwankaso or to Atiku whom he's already rejected?
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Maynman:Same way you "think" and believe buda is something you sit on instead of considering the evidence before you or asking and knocking and seeking for that which you can't possibly know. You will grow, Maynmann. |
Maynman:I guess that's you apologising for bearing false witness against buda. |
elated177:My grandfather really accepted a book. He was familiar with reading having been shown it with the Qur'an, so when the Bible was put in his hand and he was taught to read it himself he gladly did and sent his children to school to learn to read better than he could. The main thing my grandfather learnt from Christianity was reading. This learning empowered him to be able to stop labouring on the land as a farmer and learn the trade of tailoring which afforded him with the resources to educate his own children to learn to read too. |
Maynman:Islam arrived in the Orolu Kingdom of Ifon Osun where buda's forefathers lived at least 2 centuries before Christianity turned up I would have you know. Muslim traders from the North used to come and buy produce from way before the 1400s and they brought Islam with them. buda's father was never a Muslim nor a Christian, and neither was or is buda who was born and educated not to believe but to check with one's own senses so one may know. And Jehova Witness would not ever accept buda even if buda begged to join them, which alone would need to involve the complete overhaul and replacement of buda's mind and being. Maynman, perhaps stop thinking and see the evidence that is before your eyes or kindly post links as evidence for the allegations made above so others can see where buda claimed what you claim buda claimed instead of hoping baseless crap you believe would be believed by the many here who are very able to use their own senses. |
Mazisimonekpa:Is that not a place in Uganda or Tanzania somewhere? When did their opinion start mattering in Nigerian elections? |
Which "forefathers"? My great grandfather abandoned the Ifa he got from his father for Islam which arrived before Christianity or Europeans. He preferred that they had a book, and he sent his children to learn to read. His son, my grandfather followed tradition by abandoning Islam for Christianity when it arrived. He preferred that they had a book that could be read and he sent his children to learn to read it. My father, true to his forefathers, continued the tradition by reading the books and discovering that those who live by bread alone will become malnourished, so he fed his own children with books from everywhere so we don't end up in any. I, fed on books, learnt they are to be read to be understood instead of believed unless one likes trembling. Our religion, if it may be call one, passed down from 3 generations of forefathers to me, is, Read To Understand, because that will make you grow and evolve than if you merely gullibly believe all you read in a book.
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You'd think the gold was hidden away in a safe, lol. |
AdolfAboki:For some odd reason I don't think Seun is dumb enough to "admit that Peter Obi is the cleanest of all the 2023 presidential aspirants" and then be pro-someone else. Unlike some, he seems far too intelligent to not be "pro- the cleanest", but I suppose I should let him speak for himself. And to be honest with you, I don't think tinububots are being oversuccessful as more seem to becoming Obidient.
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andysmith123:Lol, if that's all they got. More Buhari must become their slogan. |
KingofAnambra:I can smell your fear of losing from here. It must be hard for you to believe we are not ipob.
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Age, like you. One can honour a bad father for so long but the time for this generation to take over from their old and ancient parents who wish to rule us with antiquated dead ideas is now!
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Anyone else feel this to be showing abortions would significantly reduce if the abortees' partners were a bit more responsible? ono: |
basilico:Basilico says something one can partly agree with, lol. Imagine your daughter saying she's a man. Must her belly not be full first? Yet see the pandemic America fills it's belly with but is refusing to abort. In 9 months there'll be a baby for certain, but let's just hope someone adopts it.
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KnownUnknown:P.s. Every verse (and book of this type) must be taken in context, Known, not only of the book itself least one only eat bread, but of its writing, and who wrote it, and the sort of writing it is, and why it was written, and the effect it's reading has on different readers, and how it has been used by different people, and why it's use has survived so long, and the effect it has had on oneself, on one's society and one's community and why. As you can see, quite a lot of contextes, of which asking and knocking and seeking, as in, research, is required to know what truth and lies are in the Bible and why, and I am very pleased that we can be here deciphering both, because, in so doing, even by our mere arguing et al, our knowledge is increasing which is a good thing even if it is being done through engaging with what may be untruths. If you'd like us, you and I, to dump the Bible for Adam Smith or Things Fall Apart or any other book worth reading, do tell please. They all have truths and untruths, if broadly defined, and there's no reason we can't be arguing about football instead, yet here we are where our interests lie, in arguing about a book of so called untruths, lol, instead of learning as much as we can from and about it, a truth I doubt you'd deny since you seem to have yourself done some already. |
KnownUnknown:We have been here before and I bet we are heading nowhere like we did then. It's a big book, Unknown, and I've chosen just one verse for us to begin with. And it is unlike Genesis 3:14 which is part of a story that can only be taken in the context of Genesis 1-3, and even on to 5 for its truth, if any, to be derived if one has the patience to derive it for oneself, which, if I'm not mistaken, you don't particularly have the time for. |
basilico:Don't you mind "the left" for worrying about the health of the abused 10 year old instead of that of the abuser who is likely on his way to jail. |
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