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keppler:
I don't get your first sentence clearly and I was not blaming atheism outrightly. I was just informing him that his logic is flawed and that an atheist does not really have a logical ground to stand when asking some questions.

Well, like many other atheists, he has closed his mind to anything about God and just seem to use pseudo-intellectual argument to back himself up. His arguments were critiqued and he wasn't interested in defending them, rather, he just dismissed the "diagnosis". That is typical of many of the wannabe atheists. Only God can encounter them by mercy


Shalom

I think we humans, both atheists and theists, "use pseudo-intellectual argument to back ourselves up", just that we always see the pseudo in other people's arguments and only see intellectual in our own, which is the reason you should not
so easily wave your hand in dismissal, because you never know what you might learn from your own words.

sonmvayina:
The Torah is divine..it has the name of God in it...the new testament has none..

How can you possibly write this with a straight face?

sonmvayina:
The authors never said they where writting actual events or historical events...so i dont see the torah as historical. Because i know it was written by Ezra. (It was him who created judaism)as the national religion of the jews and he drew a lot from babylonian epics..

Those who wrote the New Testament also never said they were writing historical events, which is why the Gospels contradict.

And by the way, the Torah was not written by Ezra, but was edited by him.

sonmvayina:
Why impregnante another mans wife? After commanding man "thou shall not commit adultery"...

And saying i will not profane my laws...

The entire book, both the Torah and the New Testament, is full of such absurdities. My favorite is a God telling Adam that on the day they seek knowledge they will surely die, as if God is a member of boko haram. Pity most people seem to believe that stuff, without wondering why their stupidity kills them. And thank God that Eve never believed Adam.

sonmvayina:
The whole concept of God impregnating another mans wife...is what i am calling to question...

It is insulting to say the least....

Funny how you seem to be selective.

Is the whole concept of a God creating humans by breathing into mud not worth questioning?

sonmvayina:
Nah, you where eating grass and folders so i called you a maalu....

You can say whatever you want, son. Your mouth, your data.

sonmvayina:
Maalu.....

Glad to see you were taught well by your rabbi in London.

sonmvayina:
All i have been saying is that there was never any need for jesus or the new testament.

But there is need for a rabbi in London?

sonmvayina:
You dont care about Gods laws, you keep what some unknown authors said above the laws of the creator and you want me to obliige you...

Anything that comes from God is perfect..So his laws are perfect..

I guess your rabbi in London convinced you that God wrote the Torah and not human beings.
Did he convince you that it was perfect to stone adulterers and disobedient children too?

sonmvayina:
Dummy...i never claimed mine is the only correct one..just that the Torah belongs to them and they are the only people that can interprete it..not the romans or greeks. And definately not a Nigerian..

In one of my post, i did say my landlord was a jewish rabbi while i was in london...

So...

You can insult me if that makes you feel good. I simply disagree with you that I need a rabbi to tell me what I can easily read in a book.

sonmvayina:
Are you a jew?..so you need one of them to interprete their books for you...

There are different layers of meaning to scriptures..

I hope you are aware that the Torah exists in English and that numerous Rabbis have provided English commentaries. A wise person would read widely instead of having their brain washed by any particular one, and only an ignorant fool would claim their own particular understanding is the only correct one, considering.

sonmvayina:
Find a rabbii to teach you the Torah...

I should find a rabbi to teach me how to read?

Sounds like you are asking me to become a sheepie instead of use the brain and mind that God has blessed me with.

RegalBeast:
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You can get my email address from my profile, but do know that I would rather you post what you want to introduce me to here.

shadeyinka:
Christians don't share the same father with Muslims!

You are not very intelligent if you believe there is more than one creator of human beings.

Dtruthspeaker:
So also did you feel the blows, slaps and kicks when a person curses, insults and wounds you, even without saying a word or when you were sexing and smooching a girl and you knew she felt it even though you did not "physically touch her"!

You might chose not to believe this, but not once has curses and insults ever felt like blows and slaps and kicks, and I do feel it when I am physically touched, as will you if I physically touch you or you'd come in your pants like an immature little boy when I walk pass in front of your face.

shadeyinka:
It is morally wrong for a true Christian to marry a Moslem how much more an atheist.
Can light walk with darkness?

As a child of God, I can't have satan as my in-law! QED!

Next you'd claim you did not just imply that Moslems are satan, though in fact by your own very fruits you've simply shown the satan is you walking in the darkness of your own ignorance.

sonmvayina:
Lol...i always enjoy a good laugh..

Seriously, this is far greater than a laugh. Instead of reading the physical book in front of us and learning how to live productively on earth, we create in our heads a stupid thing called God that we only read about in books then some people will come on here claiming that God spoke to them when they can not even hear nor see the physical beings in front of them.

Just think how absurd it is that we people claim a Jesus who's every teaching was about how to live in peace and fruitfully on earth is offering you eternal life and you might get my point when you begin to imagine how long three score and ten years is especially if you are living them in hell.

Humans are not asking for bread, but for scorpions and serpents instead, and by golly are there thousands to give it them!

sonmvayina:
What did i miss out.

I really can't understand this human need to complicate their existence. What do you mean by humans are spiritual beings? Are you not content with the physical you that you must create a spiritual you too? What does that even mean, for you and for others?

If I slap you for instance, is it the spiritual you that feels the pain? Does the food you eat nourish the spiritual you or the physical you? How about the shelter you live in, is it for the protection of a physical you or a spiritual you? And what exactly is this spirit you?

One of my favourite Bible verses is "inasmuch as I do for physical you who is before me, the Spirit God in heaven whom I see not is pleased". But here is you spiritualising yourself so I might not even see you to do for!

Na wa o!

I'm beginning to wonder about this Biafra. If Imo State that is right in the middle is not Biafra then where is this Biafra self?

But I guess this is just one Imoan talking, and others might see it different.

So, kedu ihe i kwuru?

Babinski:
You need to understand the difference between whistleblowing and making a complaint. If someone says you stole his money or your raped her, that person lodges the complaint with the Police. That is not whistleblowing. That is making a criminal compliant and under the criminal code there is an offence already for making false criminal complaint with intention of causing undue punishment for anyone. Infact such person can be jailed.

A whistleblower is an informant and not a complainant.

Whether you complain or you blow whistle, you are now learning that if you do not get your facts right efcc will do you in court. So next time, get your facts straight.

And just so you know. When you blew your whistle, someone informed me so I was able to remove the incriminating evidence before efcc arrived. You might be a straight shooting hunter but I am a bird that flies without perching, so try harder next time. And be grateful I am not suing you for tarnishing my name!

pocohantas:
The question is straightforward.

Is there any risk to cutting in the market or cutting before washing?

Cutting before washing opens up pores in the vegetable through which all the goodness will get washed away. You'd notice the water is greener when you wash cut vegetables than uncut vegetables. I like my goodness to remain in my food and my belle loves the labour of my hands.

Babinski:
Having anyone blow a whistle or raise suspicion about you to law enforcement is not tarnishing your image. It is expected that the law enforcement will do due diligence first and foremost. If Police stop and search you, are they tarnishing your image? If there is anyone to blame, it will be the EFCC in how they handle issues. If they treat a suspect like he is already guilty, then that is a problem with EFCC and not the whistleblower. You cannot sue someone for raising suspicions about you to law enforcement.

If police stop and search buda? Wetin dem go talk say dem chop belleful to be stopping to search buda? Somebori report buda to dem or wat? Dem no do due diligence?

I fit no sue someone for raising suspicions about me to law enforcement, but as you are finding out, someone can sue you on my behalf for raising false suspicion against me. Its just a great pity I can not sue you myself.

I guess you'd need to see this from the person whistle is blown against. Imagine you and I are contesting election and a week before, I blow whistle against you for things you never did. You will just be like a certain Hilary Clinton who had whistle blown against her emails 2 weeks to election and lost to one orange turd!

If I blow fake whistle say you stole my money and raped me, I'm sure you'd appreciate it when I am severely punished.

You talk as if I am asking you to not defend your land Mintum, or as if you need my permission to defend your land.

Please know that me and my people are busy defending our land from our very own neighbours who happen not to be Fulanis but Yorubas like us who are threatening to occupy our land this very moment. And if Fulani come we will defend our land from them too.

Two people were reported killed, yesterday, as the communal clash between Erin-Osun and Ilobu communities in Osun State that started Saturday over land dispute escalated.

It was also gathered that about five persons sustained gunshot injuries in the violence between the two neighbours situated in Irepodun Local Government Area of the state.

Houses were vandalised around Ire-Akari area before the Ilobu mercenaries repelled the attack from Erin-Osun warlords.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/02/2-dead-many-wounded-in-osun-communal-clash/

Mintum:
Budaatum, do we wait until this starts happening in Yoruba land before we take action and defend ourselves? These people were deceiving themselves saying the same thing you are saying now that it's just baseless fears that we have about fulani taking over people's lands, look at them today. Do you know what it means to lose 55 villages to strangers forcefully? And these fulani have no intention of stopping there, they are doing the same thing in Benue state as we speak. If you like continue deceiving yourself and defending the enemies of the Yoruba nation, wise Yoruba sons and daughters have to be be vigilant, this rubbish must not happen in Yoruba land. The foolish Wakili already wanted to start this rubbish in Oyo state but thank God for the OPC, he has been put in check for now. You better wake up from your delusions and face the reality of what is happening in this country.

Day 2. Just like any other day except that I walked a lot yesterday and was tired so I went to bed early and woke up very early.

Babinski:
It is not a good development at all. It is just a subtle way to kill whistle blowing.

A whistle blower is an informant and not an investigator. Informants are allowed to give information based on suspicion and not necessarily confirmed details. You may see movements of bags that contain money into a compound and overnight they can move it out before EFCC acts on your info. It doesn't mean the bags were not there and it doesn't mean an informant within the EFCC didn't tip the suspect off. For them to now start prosecuting you is the height of irresponsibility. That is why the masses hardly help Police with information in Nigeria.

It is the responsibility of security agencies to determine credible tips and act on them. Prosecuting whistle blowers is simply corruption fighting back. It is never done anywhere else in the world.

crafteck:
This is a bad thing,

A whistle blower might intentionally lie
B they might move the money due to informant in efcc
C they might move it as random precaution
D whistle blower shouldn't be published no matter what, now he/his family are in danger
E efcc and the theif might settle illegally
F this will discourage idea of whistle blowing permanently.
G its the efcc job to verify if its true or not before bursting in, is the whistle blower ment to sneak in there and do selfie with the money?

Well, sorry, but you should get your facts right before you blow your whistle and tarnish my name. If you had assets I'd sue you instead but since you got none, I'm glad the law got you.

Actually, where's that lawyer of mine? Perhaps I should sue efcc for helping you tarnish my name!

Gimme a break, will ya? Wherein I rant, supported by the Fed’s own data.

Mr. Powell, do you see that we see that you see that we know that inflating asset bubbles is designed from get-go to inflate the wealth of the very rich, and the remainder of the Americans get to eat dust?

https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-joe-bidens/2070#100038024

Powell in WSJ Op-ed: “I Truly Believe that We [the Rich] Will Emerge from this Crisis Stronger and Better, as We [the Rich] Have Done so Often Before”
by Wolf Richter • Mar 19, 2021 • 109 Comments

Gimme a break, will ya? Wherein I rant, supported by the Fed’s own data.

Mr. Powell, do you see that we see that you see that we know that inflating asset bubbles is designed from get-go to inflate the wealth of the very rich, and the remainder of the Americans get to eat dust?

https://wolfstreet.com/2021/03/19/i-truly-believe-that-we-the-rich-will-emerge-from-this-crisis-stronger-and-better-as-we-the-rich-have-done-so-often-before-jerome-powell-in-wsj-op-ed/

Do note the 30 Proverbs that precede Proverb 31.

If you man do not learn The Way you can't deserve a Proverb 31 woman.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/11000678_notablestrongwoman1_jpegfcb825ad574991670c3a5c5080380080

It is a great pity that we are prepared to believe this nonsense without investigating it at all, especially when the narrator is clearly an advocate for Biafra which they can only achieve by sowing discord.

Just think how possible it is for foreign Fulanis to come on your Yoruba fatherland and be mining gold. Na so you chop belle full that you will just let them? Or is it that you truly believe your Yoruba kin are so afraid of Fulani that someone will come and rape your land and your kinspeople will be cowering in fear to let them?

Our problem is not Fulani, if we so easily believe crap like this, because, through our ignorance we have already defeated ourselves!

Irresponsible! That seems to be my word of the day.

Before the last election, bubu specifically called you youths lazy fuqs, and you still refuse to get it. Did you seriously believe he was going to do all the work himself while you sat on your hands reaping the rewards where you sowed not?

Next election soon come with politicians promising you more than bubu ever promised. All I can say is, if you think you suffer now, you will be learning what original suffer head means if you remain lazy and don't question those promising you then. You'll also learn that, "In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread till thou return unto the ground", is not a curse as they inform you, but simple plain reality.

Join the Nairaland Democratic Party. Don't be a lazy fuq!

www.nairaland.com/attachments/10959328_notable01411_jpeg1c1c9acf42efa3328b3348b29c401fc2

keppler:
Again, it would have been better if you defend your position that have been critiqued, rather than making a hand waiving dismissal, which shows that you really don't have a case in the first place. Maybe like others, atheism is chosen since it gives one the belief that one is not responsible for any of his actions - no purpose. Hence, one can live life the way they want.

Shalom

Keppler, I don't think you should wave your hand in dismissal by blaming atheism for whatever it is you blame him for.

How about questioning him to fully diagnose his ailment instead of jumping to conclusion? You never know, but you might be the angel that saves him if you but tried to let God use you.

Shalom.

DuBLINGreenb:
They were in desert so no water they had to drink whatever liquid they can find, so whoever has urine they will drink that to survive.
So the only thing they had was one woman's urine that had small blood in it, you either drink or die if thirst the choice is yours.

Thanks. Op might have added "to survive in the desert" so it does not sound like some juju ritual, but Naija must sensationalise I guess.