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JENESIS 1
God Kreate Di World
1Wen di world just start, na God kreate di heaven and di eart. 2Di eart nor get shape at-all. E dey empty and darkness kover di wota, but God Spirit dey waka on-top di wota.
3So God kon sey, “Make lite kom.” And lite kon kom! 4God si sey di lite dey good, so E kon separate di lite from di darkness. 5God koll di lite, “Day” and di darkness, E koll am, “Nite.” And dat evening and morning kon make am di first day.
6God sey, “Make di wota divide into two, so dat space go dey di middle.” 7So God separate di wota wey dey under di space from di wota wey dey on-top di space. And na so e kon bi. 8God koll di space, “Sky.” And dat evening and morning kon make am di sekond day.
9God sey, “Make di wota wey dey under di sky gada for one place and make dry groun kom out.” And na so e kon bi. 10God kon koll di dry groun, “Land” and di wota wey gada, E koll am, “Sea.” God si sey e dey good. 11God kon sey, “Make di land produce difren plants: plants wey go bear seeds akordin to how dem bi and trees wey go bear fruit akordin to how dem bi.” And na so e kon bi. 12Di land produce difren plants; di ones wey dey bear seeds and fruits, akordin to dia kind. God kon si sey e dey good. 13So dat evening and morning kon make am di third day.
14God sey, “Make lite dey for di sky wey go separate di day from di nite and make sign dey wey go show sizin, days, years 15and make dem bi lite for di sky wey go give lite to di eart.” And na so e kon bi. 16God make two big lite: di one wey big pass go shine for day time and di small one go shine for nite. God make di stars too. 17God put di lite for di sky, so dat e go dey shine for di eart 18and dem go dey rule both for day and nite. Dem go separate lite from darkness. So God si sey evritin dey good. 19And dat evening and morning kon make am di fourt day.
20Den God kon sey, “Make difren animals wey get life full di wota and make birds full di sky.” 21God kreate di big-big fish for sea and evry oda tin wey dey stay inside wota and difren-difren birds. God si sey dem dey good. 22God bless dem kon sey, “Make una stay di wota kon born many shidren and make di birds born many pikin full di sky.” 23So dat evening and morning kon make am di fift day.
24Den God sey, “Make di land produce difren animals akordin to dia kind: kattle, tins wey dey creep for groun and wild animals akordin to dia kind.” And na so e kon bi. 25God make wild animals, kattle and evritin wey dey creep for groun akordin to dia kind. God kon si sey dem dey good.
26Den God sey, “Make wi kreate human being like Awasef, just as wi bi, so dat dem go bi oga ova di fish dem for sea and di birds for di sky, plus di kattles and ova di whole eart plus evritin wey dey inside.”
27So God kon kreate human being like ensef;
as God bi, na so E kreate dem;
both man and woman, na-im E kreate.
28God bless dem kon sey, “Make una born many shidren full di eart and na una go kare for evritin! Na una bi oga ova di birds for di sky, di fish dem for sea and evritin wey God kreate.” 29Den God sey, “Evry plant wey dey bear seed and tree wey dey bear fruit, I give dem to una as food. 30Plus all di animals for di eart; birds for di sky and evritin wey dey waka for groun. Evritin wey dey alive and evry green plant, I gi-am to una as food.” And na so e kon bi. 31So God si evritin wey E kreate and dem good well-well! And dat evening and morning kon make am di sixt day.
© Wycliffe Bible Translators, Inc. 2020 in cooperation with The Nigerian Pidgin Translation Committee

JOHN 1
How God Word Kom Meet Us
1Since wen di time start naim di Word dey and di Word dey with God and na God ensef bi di Word. 2Di Word dey with God from wen time bigin.
3Na God make evritin and if to sey E nor make dem, dem nor for dey dis world at-all. 4Na inside am life dey and na dat life bi di lite wey pipol get. 5Di lite dey shine inside darkness, but darkness nor gri with am.
6E get one man wey en name bi John, wey God send kom dis world. 7E kom bear witness for di lite, make evribody for fit get di shance to bilive wetin God tok thru en word. 8Nor bi John ensef bi di lite, but e kom tell pipol about Jesus wey bi di lite. 9Na Jesus bi di true lite wey go shine for evribody for dis world.
10E kom inside di world wey e make my ensef, but di pipol nor know am. 11E kom meet en own pipol, but dem nor wont am. 12But evribody wey receive and bilive en name, e go give dem di rite to bi God pikin. 13Dem go bi God shidren, nor bi as dia papa and mama take born dem from belle, or bikos somebody make dem so, but bikos God ensef make dem en own shidren.
14Den di Word kon shange to pesin and e stay with us for dis world. Wi si en glory wey show sey, naim bi di only pikin wey get korrect favor and trut, wey God send kom meet us.
15John kon bigin shaut sey, “Dis na di pesin wey I tell una about sey, ‘Di pesin wey go kom afta mi, big pass mi, bikos e dey before mi.’ ” 16Evribody for dis world don receive plenty good tins from am. 17Na thru Moses God give us di law, but God give us favor and trut, thru Jesus Christ. 18Nobody don fit si God face before. But Jesus, wey bi God ensef, wey en and en Papa bi tait friend, na-im kom show us how God bi.
John Di Baptist Tok About Jesus
19Di Jew oga dem send priests and Levi pipol make dem go ask John sey, “Who yu bi sef?” 20E ansa dem, “I nor dey lie, bikos nor bi mi bi di Christ.”
21Den dem ask am, “So, na who yu bi? Abi yu bi Elijah?”
E kon sey, “No, I nor bi Elijah.”
Dem ask am again, “Yu bi di profet?”
E ansa, “No o-o!”
22Again, dem ask am, “Who yu bi sef? Make yu tell us, so dat wi go know wetin to tell di pipol wey send us. Who yu sey yu bi?”
23John kon sey, “Na mi bi dat vois wey dey shaut inside wildaness sey, ‘Make una make di road wey pipol go pass go meet God strait well-well’, as Profet Isaya tok before.”
24(Na di Farisee pipol send dis pipol go meet John). 25Dem kon ask John sey, “Why yu dey baptize pipol, if yu nor bi di Christ or Elijah or di Profet?”
26John ansa dem, “I dey baptize pipol with wota, but among una, one pesin dey wey una nor know. 27E go kom afta mi. I nor rish to luz di rope wey dey en shoe.”
28All dis tins happen for Betany where pipol dey cross Jordan River kom meet John, make e baptize dem.
29Wen day break, John si Jesus dey waka kom meet am, den John sey, “Make una look! Dis na di Sheep wey God send kom die, so dat God go forgive us awa sins.” 30Na dis pesin I tell una sey, “Afta mi, one man wey big pass mi go kom, bikos e dey before mi. 31Misef nor know am before, but I dey baptize pipol with wota, so dat God go show Israel pipol who Jesus bi.”
32Den John bear witness sey, “I si God Spirit wey kom down like dove from heaven kon stay for Jesus head. 33I nor know am before, but di pesin wey send mi kom baptize with wota tell mi sey, ‘Di pesin wey yu go si God Spirit kom stay on-top en head, na-im go baptize pipol with Holy Spirit.’ 34I don si am and I bear witness sey, ‘Dis man na di pesin wey God choose.’ ”
35Wen day break, John with en two disciple stand for outside. 36Dem kon dey look Jesus wen e dey waka pass, den John kon sey, “Make una look! Na dat pesin bi God Sheep.”
37Wen John two disciples hear wetin e tok, dem kon follow Jesus. 38Jesus look back kon si di disciples dey follow am. Den e ask dem, “Wetin una wont?”
Dem ansa am, “Oga God, (wey mean Tisha) where yu dey stay?”
39Jesus ansa dem, “Make una kom si am.”
So dem go si di place wey e dey stay kon stay with am dat day. Dat time na about for oklok for aftanoon.
Wetin Andru Tok About Jesus
40Andru, Simon Pita broda, na one for di disciples wey hear wetin John tok kon follow Jesus. 41E first go find en broda Simon kon tell am, “Wi don si di Mezaya”, (wey mean Christ). 42Andru kon bring Simon kom meet Jesus.
Wen Jesus si am, e tell am, “Yu bi Simon, John pikin, na Cefas (wey mean Pita) pipol go dey koll yu from today go.”
Jesus Koll More Disciples
43Wen day break, Jesus kon plan to go Galilee. Wen e si Filip, e tell am, “Make yu follow mi.”
44Filip na from Betsaida, wey bi Andru and Pita home-town. 45Wen Filip si Netanel, e tell am, “Wi don si di pesin wey Moses and di profets rite about for dia book sey, ‘En name na Jesus, wey en home-town bi Nazaret and na Josef pikin e bi.’ ”
46Netanel kon sey, “Betta tin go fit kom out from Nazaret?”
Filip ansa am, “Make yu kom si.”
47Wen Jesus si Netanel dey waka kom meet am, e kon sey, “Make una look! Dis na betta pesin wey kom from Israel, wayo nor dey en belle.”
48Netanel ask am, “How yu take know mi.”
Jesus ansa, “Before Filip koll yu wen yu dey under di tree, I don si yu.”
49Netanel sey, “Tisha, true-true, yu bi God Pikin and na yu bi Israel king.”
50Jesus tell am, “Bikos I tell yu sey I si yu under di fig tree, yu bilive wetin I tok? Bikos yu bilive, yu go si wetin big pass dis one.” 51Den e kon sey, “Wetin I dey tell una na true word, una go si heaven open and God angels go dey waka up-and-down on-top God Pikin.”
© Wycliffe Bible Translators, Inc. 2020 in cooperation with The Nigerian Pidgin Translation Committee

Apparently, yes. Though I haven't found Nigerian pidgin yet.

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God Make Da World
1Da time wen eryting wen start, God make da sky an da world. 2Da world come so no mo notting inside, no mo shape notting. On top da wild ocean dat cova eryting, neva had light notting. Ony had God Spirit dea, moving aroun ova da watta.
Day Numba One
3 Den God tell, “I like light fo shine!” an da light start fo shine. 4God see how good da light. Den he put da light on one side, an da dark on da odda side. 5Da light time, he give um da name “Day time.” Da dark time, he give um da name “Nite time.” So, had da nite time an da day time, az day numba one.
Day Numba Two
6 Den God tell, “I like get someting inside da middo fo no let da watta up dea an da watta undaneat come togedda!” 7An dass wat God do. God make someting fo no let da watta up dea an da watta undaneat come togedda. 8Da ting inside da middo, God give um da name “Da Sky.” Had da nite time an da day time, az day numba two.
Day Numba Three
9Den God tell, “I like da watta unda da sky come togedda one place, so dat get dry land!” An dass wat God wen do. 10Da dry groun, God give um da name “Land,” an da watta dat wen come togedda one side, he give um da name “Ocean.” God look da dry groun an da ocean, an he tell, “Real, real good, all dat!”
11Den God tell, “I like da land get all diffren kine plants! Da kine plants dat get seed, an da kine trees dat get fruits wit da seed inside, eryting!” An dass wat God do. 12So da land get all diffren kine plants, da kine plants dat get seed, an da kine trees dat get fruits wit da seed inside, eryting. An God look da plants, an he tell, “Real, real good, all dat!” 13Had da nite time an da day time, az day numba three.
Day Numba Four
14Den God tell, “I like put lights up dea inside da sky, da sun an moon an stars! Dass fo make da day time diffren den da nite time. Dass fo show da parts a da year fo do tings, an da days an da years. 15I like get lights up dea inside da sky fo shine light all ova da world!” An dass wat God wen do. 16God make da two big lights. Da big light, he make um fo be da main one day time, an da odda light, he make um fo be da main one nite time. 17God put da lights up dea inside da sky fo shine light on top da groun, 18day time an nite time, an fo make da light an da dark diffren. An God look da day an da nite, an he tell, “Real, real good, all dat!” 19Had da nite time an da day time, az day numba four.
Day Numba Five
20Den God tell, “Inside da watta, I like get choke diffren kine tings dat live dea! Up inside da sky, I like get plenny bird an all kine tings dat fly up ova da groun!” 21God make all da big kine fish an odda kine tings dat live inside da ocean, an choke plenny small kine fish an odda kine tings dat move aroun inside da watta, an all kine birds an bugs wit wings. An God look da tings inside da watta an da tings dat fly, an he tell, “Real, real good, all dat!” 22Den God tell da fish an birds an all da odda kine life, “I give you da powa fo you do eryting I wen make you fo do. So, I like you get plenny bebes, an fill up da ocean wit um. You birds too, I like you fo do da same ting an fill up da world!” 23Had da nite time an da day time, az day numba five.
Day Numba Six
24Den God tell, “I like da land get all kine diffren tings! da animals dat live wit peopo, an da small kine animals, an da wild animals.” An dass wat wen happen. 25God make um all: all kine wild animals, an all kine animals dat live wit peopo, an all da small kine animals dat run aroun on top da groun. An God look da animals, an he tell, “Real, real good, all dat!”
26 Den God tell, “Now, I like make peopo. I like dem be jalike me, jalike one copy. Dey goin be in charge a eryting: da fish inside da ocean, da birds inside da sky, da animals, all da land, an all da small kine animals dat go aroun on top da groun.” 27So God make da peopo, same same jalike one copy a him. He make guy kine an wahine kine. 28Den God tell um, “I give you guys da powa fo you do eryting I wen make you fo do. So, born plenny bebes, an fill up da world wit um, an take ova! You guys, in charge a da fish inside da ocean, an da birds inside da sky, an all da animals dat move aroun on top da groun.”
29An God tell dis too: “You know wat? I give you guys all da plants all ova da world dat make seed, an all da trees dat make fruits wit da seed inside. Dass fo you guys eat. 30An fo all da wild animals, an fo all da birds inside da sky, an fo all da animals moving aroun on top da groun—eryting dat stay alive, I give dem all da grasses an odda kine green plants fo dea food.” An dass wat God wen do.
31God look eryting he wen make, an he tell, “Real, real good, all dat!” An had da nite time an da day time, az day numba six.
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JOHN 1
Wat God Tell Make Us Come Alive Inside
(John 3:6, 16, 19; 4:44; 5:25; 8:41-42; 12:35, 41-46; 17:5; Songs 33:6)
1Da time eryting wen start, had one Guy. “God, He Talk,” dass who him. God an dat Guy, dey stick togedda, an da Guy stay God fo real kine. 2Dass da Guy, da time eryting start, him an God stay tight wit each odda. 3God wen make eryting, but da way he do um, he tell dis Guy fo do um. No mo notting dis Guy neva make. 4He da Guy, if you like come alive fo real kine, you gotta come by him. Dass da kine life come from him. Wen peopo come alive lidat, jalike dey stay inside one place dat get plenny light. Den dey can see an undastan stuff. 5No matta stay dark, da dark no can pio da light. Erytime get light.
6 Had one guy John dat God sen. 7God sen um fo tell all da peopo wat he know bout da light from God, fo dem trus God cuz a him. Dass his kuleana.
8John, he not da light. He ony come fo tell da peopo dat da light stay fo real. 9Dat time wen John stay teach, jalike da light dass fo real stay come inside da world. Dass da light dat show erybody wass true.
10Dat time, da light dass fo real stay inside da world. Wen God make da world, he da Guy dat do um. But da peopo inside da world, dey neva know who him. 11He come his country, but even his peopo neva come tight wit him. 12But erybody dat come tight wit him an trus him, God give dem da right fo come his kids cuz dey know who him. 13Da way dey born, az not jalike how one faddah like get kids. Dey come God kids cuz God give um his life inside.
14Dat “God, He Talk” Guy, he come one guy dat get one body jalike us guys get. He stay wit us short time, an us see how awesome he stay. He awesome, cuz he da One an ony Boy dat come from da Faddah. He like do plenny good stuff fo us cuz dass how he stay. Eryting he tell bout God stay fo real.
15John, he tell peopo wat he know bout dat Guy. He talk real strong fo all da peopo hear. He tell, “Dis da Guy I wen talk bout wen I tell, ‘Bumbye one Guy goin show up, an dat Guy mo importan den me, cuz he stay awready from befo I born.’ ”
16John talk lidat cuz dat Guy like do real plenny good kine stuff, an he do um fo all us guys erytime. 17Moses wen give oua ancesta guys da Rules From God. Den Jesus Christ, God Spesho Guy, he do plenny good stuff fo us, an eryting he tell us bout God, stay fo real. 18No mo nobody wen see God fo real kine. But ony dat Guy wen see um. No mo anodda guy jalike him cuz he God too. No mo nobody stay mo tight wit his Faddah den him. He da One dat wen show how God stay.
Wat John Da Baptiza Guy Tell
(Matthew 3:1-12; Mark 1:2-8; Luke 3:13-17; Rules Secon Time 18:15; Isaiah 40:3)
19One time, da Jew leada guys sen pries guys an odda guys from da Levi ohana dat help da pries guys. Dey sen um by John fo tell, “Eh, who you?” Dis wat he tell um:
20He neva bulai. He tell um fo real kine, “Lissen! I not da Christ Guy, da Spesho Guy God Goin Sen.”
21 Dey tell John, “Den who you? You Elijah?” He tell, “No, I not.”
Dey tell, “Den you da Spesho Guy dat goin come an talk fo God?” He tell, “No, I not.”
22Dey tell him, “Kay den. Tell us who you. Wat you tell bout you? We gotta tell someting to da guys dat sen us, you know!”
23 John tell da same ting jalike Isaiah tell, da guy dat talk fo God long time befo time,
“I da guy dat talk real strong inside da boonies,
‘Eh, make da road ready fo Da One In Charge.
Make um strait fo him!’ ”
24Some a da guys da Jew leadas wen sen by John, dey Pharisees. 25Dem guys tell him, “Kay den. If you not da Spesho Christ Guy Dat God Goin Sen, an you not Elijah, an you not da Spesho Guy dat goin come an talk fo God, den how come you stay baptize da peopo?”
26John tell um, “I stay baptize da peopo wit watta. Anodda guy stay hea wit you guys, but you guys donno who him. 27I wen start fo teach firs befo him, but I not spesho enuff even fo help him hemo his slippas.” 28All dis happen inside Betany town, da one dat stay da odda side a da Jordan Riva. Dass wea John stay baptize da peopo.
Jesus Jalike God Bebe Sheep
(John 1:15)
29Da nex day John spock Jesus stay coming by him, an he tell, “Eh, you guys, try look da guy ova dea! You know wat? He jalike God bebe sheep fo da sacrifice. He hemo da shame fo da bad kine stuff dat erybody inside da whole world stay do! 30Dis da guy I stay talk bout wen I tell, ‘Bumbye one guy goin show up afta me, but he mo importan den me, cuz he stay befo I born.’ 31I neva know who him befo time. But I stay hea fo da Israel peopo know who him. Dass why I stay baptize peopo wit watta.”
32-33John tell mo plenny bout wat he know. He tell dis: “God wen sen me fo baptize peopo wit watta. He tell me, ‘You goin see my Spesho Spirit come down an stay wit one guy. He da guy goin let my Good An Spesho Spirit take ova my peopo.’ Dat time I wen see one guy, an I neva know who him befo time. But den I see da Good An Spesho Spirit come down from da sky jalike one dove, an stay wit da guy.
34“I wen see dat, an I tell you guys, dat guy, he God Boy!”
Da Firs Guys Jesus Pick Fo Teach
35Da nex day John stay stan dea one mo time wit two guys he stay teach. 36Wen John spock Jesus stay walk by him, he tell, “Look! Dis guy jalike God bebe sheep fo da sacrifice.”
37Da two guys hear him tell dat, an dey go wit Jesus. 38Jesus turn aroun an see dem stay going wit him. He tell, “Eh, wat you guys looking fo?”
Dey tell, “Rabbi, wea you stay staying at now?” (“Rabbi,” dat mean “Teacha” dea language.)
39Jesus tell, “Go come look.” So dey go wit him an see wea he stay, an dey stay dea wit him dat day. Was bout four clock in da aftanoon.
40Andrew, Simon Peter braddah, he one a da two guys dat hear John Da Baptiza guy, an go wit Jesus. 41Da firs ting Andrew do, he find his braddah Simon an tell him, “Us wen find da Messiah.” (“Messiah,” dat mean “da Christ Guy, da Spesho Guy God Wen Sen,” dea language.) 42Den he bring Simon to Jesus.
Jesus look at um an tell, “You Simon, an yoa faddah John, aah? but not da Baptiza guy. From now peopo goin call you ‘Cefas.’ ” (Dat mean “Peter,” o “Da Rock,” in dea language.)
Jesus Tell Philip An Natanael Fo Come
43Da nex day Jesus like go Galilee side. He find Philip an tell him, “Eh, come wit me, an be my guy.” 44Philip, he from Betsaida town, da same place Andrew an Peter live. 45Philip find Natanael an tell um, “We wen find da Guy dat Moses write bout in da book wit da Rules From God inside. An da guys dat talk fo God long time befo time, dey write bout him too. He Jesus from Nazaret town, Joseph boy.”
46Natanael tell, “Nah! No mo notting good come from Nazaret!”
Philip tell, “Go come check um out!”
47Jesus spock Natanael stay come by him, an he tell, “Dis guy one fo real kine Israel guy. No mo notting fake inside him! He erytime tell da trut.”
48Natanael tell, “How come you know who me?”
Jesus tell, “I wen see you da time you was undaneat da fig tree, befo Philip tell you fo come.”
49Den Natanael tell him, “Teacha, you God Boy fo real kine! You da King fo da Israel peopo!”
50Jesus tell him, “You wen trus me jus cuz I tell you dat I wen see you undaneat da fig tree, aah?! Fo shua, you goin see mo betta stuff den dat!”
51 Den he tell um, “Dass right! An I like tell all you guys dis: You guys goin see da sky open up, an angel messenja guys from God go up an go down by me, da Fo Real Kine Guy.”
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One is unworthy.

But for the Grace of God who so loves one did the Lord God send the Messiah that one may hear the Word of God and accept Jesus Christ as one's Lord and Saviour. The acceptance of this free gift, believing, so to say, despite being ignorant about it, is indeed how one is saved aleluya amen, for one could be unfortunate to "not have much soil" or be "soil amongst thorns" on which the "word falls and is choked to death" bearing no fruit at all.

That belief you now have sown in you inspires you to seek to learn about your Saviour, which is done by reading the Bible; and the Bible being a big book, can not be read least one work at it (and I do not mean Sunday church reading, picking a chapter here and a verse there as many do, but from the Beginning to the End without missing a single word).

Reading, however, is the beginning of your work. One can read the Bible and believe it and be done as some do, but some will seek for an understanding of what they have read which is more work. And yet, by the Grace of God! For if Jesus Christ had not sent you the Holy Ghost and Comforter to minister to you, all your work trying to understand is work in vain!

You may be the fortunate who loves the Lord God with all your heart and soul and being and hence be given to understand the Kingdom of God. You will pick up your cross, so to speak, big and heavy, being made of very heavy timber as you will find when it is on your back and feel it's weight on you. But carry it you will, which is work. Because if you have done the work of building up what is commonly called your spiritual muscles, it would not only feel like Simon of Cyrene carries it for you, though when goodness and mercy works on your behalf it would seem so, for the Power of Christ in you will empower you to such an extent that you would be strong enough to bear your cross and the crosses of others too, which is what I see the likes of Oyedepo doing - not so much by giving bread which is as stone, but by making you a Fishers of People, which is what he does, teaching those who go on to establish in their own right. After all, see ye not his fruits?

Some may accuse me of claiming I have said here that "work justifies". But I would have you consider, justify in who's eye? Surely not in the sight of those whom darkness has overcome and who see not! And besides, "study", which is predominantly the work I have listed above, is not to be done where you are to be seen doing it least you be justified by your fellow humans and your head puff up or you be disturbed and asked to go and play instead. The work I have listed above is not done to justify you nor be justified by you as you are not the one sitting at the right hand of God judging the living and the dead, but to the Glory of the Lord God Almighty alone whom one serves.

Be wise therefore and fill not only your lamp but also your jars with that which moths cannot get at because you do not know the day or the hour when the bridegroom will arrive.

"Oro Ut Omnes Sequantur Viam Ad Veram Vitam"

naijapips04:
Religion goes deeper than rice and beans though. Just saying.

Indeed it does. It includes love, respect, charity etc etc, and see the atheist eomajeh is so full of them all while the so called Christians can't even do the love bit.

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Tell me you are not reminded of teeth gnashers.

shadeyinka:
How naive can you prove to be!

She believes in life after death. She believes in heaven and hell. She want her children to make heaven.

Now, here you are. You don't believe in life after death. The concept of sin is foreign to you. You'll encourage your children to practice immorality as long as they do it safely and responsibly.

How would you not disagree bitterly on this? If she doesn't mind, then she isn't a Christian Or she is selfish and wicked!

So, rather than live peacefully here on earth, you expect them to be arguing about some afterlife as if they are about to commit suicide today? And what makes you think atheists can't have morals?

Op, your response sounds simple, but its full of wisdom.

Maybe the other planets are in reserve for when we completely mess up earth or become too many and need to migrate.

I mean, imagine earth's population hits 1 Trillion and the date is 1^st January 2,000,021, and Jupiter just might appeal.

Looks like one seed per hole too and not 3, 4, most plant.

I'm beginning to think we need a thread of bobrisky's scams as she too de involve in them!

CoronaVirusRelo:
Have met several professionals who fell in this trap. Some made it to get papers but always complain about the years they were dormant and had to work hard for peanuts.

You ask most of them if they regret the time it took and they'd tell you the alternative of staying where they were is worse.

CoronaVirusRelo:
Most prefer the fast and hard way

You are far too smart not to know this is untrue and that what you call "hard and fast" is impossible for most.

capitalzero:
I thought you know it all. Mr Philosopher

You should try not to think wrong. No one can possibly "know it all" except fools who know nothing.

Herbephe1:
Lol, you've just violated one of the laws of reasoning,by concluding without making any research on the word.
For you to type this, it means you've nver heard of it

You are so very correct, lol. I just happen to know them as the Laws of Logic, and not of "thought" .

Laws of thought, traditionally, the three fundamental laws of logic: (1) the law of contradiction, (2) the law of excluded middle (or third), and (3) the principle of identity. The three laws can be stated symbolically as follows.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/laws-of-thought

Accept my apologies op!

PrideofLincoln1:
You are wrong again. US laws used to be porous but not anymore. No undocumented immigrant can get a Social Security Number and they can't get a Driver's License and they have to go through E-verify to work and if any company knowingly hires an illegal immigrant, there's heavy fine waiting for the company.

Sounds like UK.

CoronaVirusRelo:
Illegal immigration can never affect my job. I am just thinking about people if affects and that shows I am not thinking about myself. It even more solidifies the fact that I care more about Americans irrespective of their cadre.

I know what plays out and have took time to study it. The lower class feel that impact the most.


I refered you to our discussion about $15 per hour. It will only take Americans out of job in a place like Texas. 15 what?

Stop making out like you are the only one who has studied this and the rest of us are stupid.

In UK, paying less than minimum wage is illegal, period, and it is a separate crime to hiring an illegal. So if you hire an illegal and pay them less than minimum wages that's two crimes you've committed. Can you see how both laws would disincentivise you to commit the crime of hiring an illegal and paying less than the minimum?

The illegal migrant will of course be deported if illegal.

Point is, it isn't just the crime of the migrant, but that of the indigene who hires them too.

CoronaVirusRelo:
Did I say their are none.

Let me brief you what you seem not to know. It's as easy as ABC to live the fullest life in America as an illegal if you avoid crime. I am telling you authoritatively that you can access anything if you have people to lead you on.

You cannot say same about the UK, Germany, Australia and Canada. The US system is very very porous.

Yes you can say the same about UK, at least, if you avoid crime, let me brief you about what you seem not to know!

CoronaVirusRelo:
I am not demonizing any undocumented immigrant. I am just saying it as it is. This I believe should be a norm and debate. I only mention the effect on jobs, health, institutions and security, but you have chosen that all this factors does not warrant tightening immigration policies. The refugee option is also on the table, and we still talking about illegal migration.

This should not be a debate and I repeat, I am not demonizing illegal immigrants but advocate for checks and balances by the government

Effect on who's job? Your job, or the job I will get when illegal me gets across the border?

Can you not see how you are only thinking about yourself here, and are even asking the illegal migrant to think of you too?

CoronaVirusRelo:
And what I am canvassing for is checks and balances. That notion permits everybody who is suffering to make the journey across the boarder.

This are points made with compassion and pity. And that pity applies to all that fall in that cartegory. Now tell me, can the system accommodate a massive influx over time, it will most definitely lead to a collapsed. Any design will collapse once over utilized, especially when you have no outright records of people coming in.

Their is farm worker Visa cartegory, Yes.. I might not know the actual name. Are this options been exploited?

Would you mind explaining to me why a person attempting to cross the border would care about your system apart from circumventing it to get into the country?

armyofone:
Condition is bad everywhere - life is not a platter of gold. They should use non illegal way in their pursuit of better life.

I just wish everyone was priviledged like you might be.

I assume you are in US. Mind telling us how you got there?

CoronaVirusRelo:
What I said in that comment you quoted, only few will believe. The good stories and nollywood videos has brainwashed many. They barely have an idea about the life of an illegal immigrants.

Stop this! There's a lot of illegal immigrants already living in UK who already know what it's like and will still do anything to remain here.

But of course it's like telling me not to steal while I'm starving!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/17/joe-biden-immigration-putin-afghanistan-cuomo-dog

armyofone:
I'm with you. Illegal is not the right way to travel and "becoming" worst still pushing children over the finishing line...Goodness what those kids go through- sigh

And you can't imagine that people's conditions can be so bad that doing the above seems like the lesser evil?

Amazing!

CoronaVirusRelo:
It's just a result of incompetent leadership.

And a reflection on the majority of deplorable citizens who allowed it to happen!

CoronaVirusRelo:
You are not in favour of illegal immigration and still canvass for it in subsequent sentencesw. I seem not to know where you stand at this point. Are you advocating for free boarders or not.

What is your opinion about immigration in US. Should it be lessened or tightened.

You fail to understand how one can be compassionate without exactly condoning. He is simply saying he understands their plight.

But ask me and I'd tell you I advocate for the very unrealistic the world is not ready yet free borders all over the world. But note that crossing a border does not make one a citizen.

CoronaVirusRelo:
Not at all, I deter Republicans, and can never be a part of them. No government gets all the marks. Everyone has a fault. Obama did not debate much about immigration, but had one of the toughest policy. Deportation was on a high...

Biden just shot himself in the leg with those policies he made mention of.

Well do not discuss like those brainless daponobasili&co please.

America lacks universal healthcare, is continously arguing what a woman does with the content of her womb, has lots of people who think the darker the skin the less human the being, and has just lost the most people to coronavirus than any other nation so it really can't be the top of anything but an ego.

If my country behaves the way America does, we will burn it down in shame! Damn, we burn my country down in shame of USA already!

PrideofLincoln1:
Bhudhaman, you nailed it perfectly. God bless you for that. There was a Mexican lady here about a year ago advocating for shutting down the border during the Presidential campaign just to suck up to Trump. Guess what happened to her ?. She was going through the process of adjusting her status and the Immigration office found some information about her and she ended up being deported back to Mexico. Do these guys know the amount of Nigerians that overstayed their visas in Europe and America. Imagine our friends here advocating for all these Nigerians to be deported. I guess they think only Mexicans, Guatemalans and other undocumented immigrants from Latin America should be subjected to deportation. Some of them here probably know guys that are in America illegally. Imagine if Americans were shouting about deporting all these Africans that are overstaying their visas. What's happening is that our friends are being brainwashed by the Republicons immigration propaganda that comes out of bigotry, hatred and xenophobia against colored people. You don't see RepubliKKKans advocating for deportation of those illegal immigrants from Eastern Europe.

Is it time to send an sos to Texas to save CoronaVirusRelo I wonder. Can you believe how he just misrepresented what I said? Has he been taking the qanon pill behind our back or something, he is surrounded by Gops in Texas after all so they might be poisoning him behind our back and I'd hate to lose him to basili&co!

CoronaVirusRelo:
Coming to the USA is reaching the top? You need to have a change of mindset. Once again, Travel and See.

I think you are strawmanning and deliberately focusing on the wrong point of my statement. I mean, how the heck can USA that elected an idiot like trump be top of anything if you really think?

It is those who have acquired America citizenship who might think they have reached a top. I spent a year in Mexico because I consider USA to be the bottom of the pit.

This US Intelligence is very unintelligent!

How can they possibly have missed all the efforts of us here to influence the election in Biden's favour? Did they not notice the Corona virus we sent to reduce the trump voters and the dead we raised to increase the Biden vote?

They must please give us the credit we are due!

Putin targeted people close to Trump in bid to influence 2020 election, U.S. intelligence says

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/intelligence-assessment-2020-election-russia-iran/2021/03/16/a2650478-8662-11eb-bfdf-4d36dab83a6d_story.html

PrideofLincoln1:
The funny part of this immigration debate is that I know so many Africans including many Nigerians that came into the Fruited Plains and overstayed their visas and ended up getting permanent residency enroute to Citizenship. How convenient for them now advocating shutting the borders now. What would have happened if people were advocating the same thing against them when they overstayed their visas as they are advocating against those trying to better their lives. People will do anything to get their families out of poverty and I am not in favor of illegal immigration but it's what it's knowing the history of America and the geographical location of the United States.

It's the selfish act of pulling up the ladder after they've reached the top. Those who've climbed up are the harshest at keeping others down.

BLOODYSPERM:
So Asian Americans are Chinese
You sound like a Dullard and an illiterate

You wanna tell the shooters please?

Asian Americans in Atlanta stunned by shootings as advocates demand action Asian Americans in Georgia have faced escalating verbal abuse and harassment, community leaders said, leading to fears that the shootings that killed eight, including six Asian women, were racially motivated. Authorities say they are working to determine motive. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/03/17/atlanta-spa-shootings-reactions/?

For the religious warriors, abortion is a gateway drug. Once they ban abortion, they can move on to ban the pill, then IUDs, diaphragms, and even condoms. After that, women can be returned to their "proper" role as chattel.

Amber, the GQP doesn't care about families with mothers. They only care about controlling women. That is why certain states allow convicted rapists visitation rights with the children they made unwilling women conceive.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-anti-roe-v-wade-movement-is-increasingly-disconnected-from-facts/2021/03/16/42bfead8-8671-11eb-8a8b-5cf82c3dffe4_story.html

ashewoboy:
must you know me? you are rude. you quoted the real thread for your rude behaviour. make sure you listen to the song by the artiste of this thread.

I swear, you are not too rude.

Smh!