₦airaland Forum

andrewza: where do you get 129 aircraft since you have not even sellected what aircraft you want to get other than i thing the MI17.

and you could only muster 122 aircraft so unless you hiding them(and that means not flying them) where are the rest.

either you lieing or nigeria is running in to massive debt every year i am going with you lieing.

Msauza: I gave you the speech by your president, in his mouth he voted N348.91 billion for defence for the year 2013. That is way too low my friend and it will not even put you on the top list of biggest military spenders in Africa. Our defence budget (SA) trippled it for the year 2013. I know you hate it when I tell the truth, but that's the way it is. Sorry for exposing your lies.

Msauza: That I don't believe my friend. It will take Nigeria 40-50years to reach to the level of development of SA. I know you hate it when a person tells the truth. Let us take a typical example, when ANC came to power in 1994, SA infrastructural development were so infragmented so that you could clearly see developments in white area only. Not that there were no any developments at all in black townships, some few developments were still noticed then such as building of free houses by local government through out the country. Tarred roads and sewage system were clearly noticed in soweto during the era of apartheid and Baragwanath Hospital was even then still in good condition.

Is been 20years now since the ANC has taken over, yet there is so much to be done and tell me how the hell will Nigeria ever achieve all that in 7-10years with a population of approximately 170 million. How will the government of Nigeria provide every household with clean running tap water, sewage system, 24hrs power supply and above it with free housing and grants to the poor. Will all that be a possibility in 7 years? Oh no, heaven knows that will be a long term dream that might not be realised in the current generation.

This argument will not even extend to infrastructure such as international standard road constructions, world class universities, well looked after sports and recreational facilities in townships, free basic education, health, social development and national student financial aid that can afford to loan prospective university students ( not academically deserving) finance to further their studies. This my friend takes a fortune.

andrewza: Nigirea releases the deffense budget at the start of each year. The first one is is old but the other one is valubil due to it showing the budget accross a larg perriod of time. But yes both sourse are out dated.

You don't have 6 frigats you got one and another converted US coast gaurd cutter and you have no subs at all no any planes to get more frigats or any subs in the meduim or long term yet, where do you see 139 aircraft in nigeria. You don't have any predtor drones yet and drones are actually very low on maintaince.

I posted a some time ago your milltary budget.

Msauza: I am not going to write anything ever again, because when I write something am being accused and persecuted with telling lies. Below is the list of biggest military spenders in Africa, I hope you will find it in order.

http://danielberhane.com/2011/06/12/africa-top-25-military-spending-countries/

And now here is the latest;

http://www.aneki.com/rankafmilitary.html

andrewza: According to your own 2013 budget report it comes out around 3 billion USD.

Has said before we underfunded. But the budget has increased.

The big problem is we got a lot more ops going than the money covers. This takes money other areas. These are non opertaniol side so training(training is part of ops) and actual missions are not affected niether is personal. What is affect is maitnaince. Now maintaince is not just milltary equment but everthing from printers(and some are massive) and fax machines to civlian standard cars all the way to drills and chipping hammars. Personealy I have seen no change and it hard to see why. The SANDF total permant force size is not inceasing so all extra money can go towards areas that are underfunded.

If they where built local there is a high chance of it staying secruit. DIXCON has no need to report what they don't import.

SA all so have tones of wepaons in storage such has alleot helcopter, up to 1000 AML armourd cars extra extra. It nothing speciol.

andrewza: I had a look at those pics. At least one is of a Spartan APC ( http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FV103_Spartan#section_1 )

I have no idea why nigeria would buy/build them. They carry a rather small number of passangers. The a 1970s ear AFV so may have been a second hand purches. Unless some one in the know is looking out for it. No one would no about a second hand sale.

The other are to blurry or not enough of it is in the pic or I have no idea what it is.

The patrol boat could be a reworked and refurbished work boat of some type.

mosquitoNet: Tho Boko boys gave us a tough fight but we gave them no chances. No be small battle, I was on the flont line.

admndrewza: I post both South africas and nigerias deffesnse budget some post ago's.

Rounded of
Nigeria was over 3 billion USD
SA was over 5 billion USD and with a much smaller deffense force the per capter expedture is much much higher for SA



SA total budget for 2013 is 3 to 4 times larger than Nigeria. And since SA popultion is 55 million with mayber 10 million forghners compared to 170 million nigerians in nigeria.

Msauza: Why do you temper with the Numbers? Oh desperation again. Give us a source, or do you want me to embarrass you by proving you wrong that those numbers have been tempered with.

peleson: Is CIA trying to twist what we already know?
We are going to ofcos study this report and schedule our planned approach. We are not loosing sleep that CIA may be funding BH from there Algeria arm in order to weaken Nigeria as a regional power noting that we can only grow to international power following our population, oil wealth, agric wealth, aggressiveness in educational pursuance etc. Our politics n presence in Africa has been admired by many countries following our matured approach in international politics ousting S/Africa from the scene. With our improving economic power , the west is seeing another china in Nigeria, what Nigerians don't see themselves .
G8 Nations lead by David Cameron wanted to twart GEJ by oil money n corruption but GEJ took the battle to there door steps and rattle them with the caution "Stop buying BLOOD OIL from NIGERIA" bigger corruption for them to contend with. Hahaha

snydergp: Ivory Coast and its coastline were never under the control of Nigeria infact, Nigeria protested this at the AU summit and saying that souyh africa is backing up Bagbo and is not a neutral force. Even then the SAS Drakenberg is a naval supply vessel not a frigate but it packet enough power to stand its ground against any threat it faces.

Stop twisting issues because I've posted the link of this story last year already.

snydergp: [b]Now boy stop talking sh*t do u even know the capabilities of saaf.

Here is the specifications on of the SU-27 and Gripen JAS-39/C and remember SA has both C and D versions.
http://www.aviatia.net/versus/jas-39-gripen-vs-sukhoi-su-27/

Now can we settle this SU-27 once and all mr bullsh*t talker, do your research because we all know your a amateur boy,
Your own NAF can't even keep ur F-7's in good service they already crashed 3 F-7's in the last two years due to poor pilot training and maintenance.

NAF bought 15 1980's tech F-7 which is nolonger even on the production line in China and crashed 3 within Two years now that is the worst crash record of any military in peace time over the last 10 years your sh*ty NAF is far worse then Rwanda.

Nigerias air safety record is also in shambles with over 6 commercial passenger crashes in 4 years your country is so worse that even the EU air safety authorities banned flights a few years ago and don't even allow ur planes in there airspace without proper safety checks.

Now is this the same wurthless Nigeria who can't even guarantee the safety of its NAF pilots claiming there the best in Africa when the very same Ethiopia out classes you in all sectors of your ill disciplined army

Go dream over this sh*t this weekend amateur[/b]

snydergp: 95% of all acquisitions are logged by international arms companies and the information is freely available even on the NA, the only difference would be the cost associated would mostly be classified but your national budget expenditure would reflect these acquisitions due to oversite by democratic institutions like opposition party's( that is if democracy is in place)

If you don't have it you don't, if u placed orders with reputable arms companies the world would know simple as that unless its intelligence related.

jackbauersballs: Unless gay acts are illegal in the country they want to play for!

Abeg arrest those riffraff and bring them to my house for 'reconditioning' [/b]

snydergp: They are better armed then ur average AK-47 checkpoint thugs u call soldiers.

All those parasites can't even protect your ur small 800km coastline.

CAMEROONPRIDE: @Syndergp , please could u give me again the link of military websites? Esp the one with full infos on countries' armies.
Syndergp or andrewza

agaugust: thanks capnd143

Msauza: You wish with what money are you going to buy all that. We all know that the government of NGR is poor beyond recognition. The government that cannot even build better roads and infrastructure, where will they get money? It is no secret that private citizens of Nigeria pocket way far bigger chunks of Naira than the government. The government remains poor, while many business people evade tax and there is no system in place to track those who offended and prosecute them.

Henry120: @capnd143, that the navy 10 year plan, with the acquisition of 6 light frigates from china and india, the plan has already been set in motion.

49 warships
42 helicopters
3 submarines

sheyie2007: Awesome!