₦airaland Forum

EreluRoz:
When I get married I'll prefer my husband do the buying, I don't even want to know the price of anything, let him just be buying them while the maids cook them and I take care of him and the kids. Life is not too hard abeg.

Shey you go see husband like this?

abbey621:
Again read the charges, she was not charged with defamation but cyber bullying or whatever, that's ERROR #1!

Furthermore, we all know there's no way she'll get a fair trial, as she's a nobody and human rights activist lawyers are not that good.....The problem here is that absence of any law that protects the consumer in cases like this, the loser will 99% of the time be the CONSUMER!

Whatever she's charged with is in court. Only the court can do justice aside God.
Like I said, whoever wins, I don't care. What I care about is the lessons companies and consumer public will learn from the saga.

abbey621:
Again a consumer has the right to review the product or services consumed! This is non debatable! There's something called cause and effect, a product does not need to directly cause harm for it to be harmful.

Exhibit one:
Vegans accuse meat eaters of eating carcinogenic items aka red meat.

We have over 100 scholarly and well researched studies that shows red meat is carcinogenic.

We have thousands of people that die each year due to cancer from bad diet.

Are you saying as a meat company, you would sue such a vegan?

Exhibit two:

Climate change is real

A climate activist claims that deisel factory is polluting the air causing climate chnage which can result in people dying.

If you're the owner of that factory, will you arrest the activist even tho there are empirical evidence that confirms air pollution is having a disastrous effect on climate.

In summary, the charges does not correlate with the offense, it is hogwash and nonsenstical and can only succeed in a dystopian country like Nigeria!

You can give bad review. Nobody is against that. There's fine-line between bad review and defamatory review. And as you should know by now, only the court can and will decide what is defamatory. Nobody else can.

Let the court decide. I'm not here to speculate, and I don't really care who wins either. What is important is either ways, companies and the consumer public will learn a thing or two from the whole saga.

abdsamad:
Uhuhn. Good attempt. I understand what you're trying to say, however:

Saying vipers and demons is a figure of speech meant to convey a different meaning within a certain context. You didn't actually start looking for vipers or demons.
It's killing people obviously has to be interpreted within proper context. Was she talking about people dying or was it a figure of speech meant to convey a different meaning.

Who was she talking to, and what led to what? Proving defamation is so incredibly difficult even when the intent is clear, much less here when you have to dig into the comment section to find one line that's paraded without proper context.

Again, who here doesn't do hyperbole when the conversation gets heated. Should you go to jail everytime that happens.

If you're an incredible jerk who thinks this is worth ruining someone's life over, it's very well within your right to try, but you'll be pushing that boulder up a very steep hill. In s normal trial, the lady will win and even have him pay for harassing her. How do you arrest someone on a civil accusation? No conviction and you have the civil liberty violated.

Summary: any which way you twist this, the man is a toxic stew of hatred and abuse. The lady should maybe be a bit mindful of comments but no more than the rest of us.

Be civil a bit.

If anyone feels aggrieved in dispute, the right thing to do is to approach the court. The judiciary will do their job. For me, I really don't care who wins. What is important is the lessons companies and the consumer public would take away from the saga.

Carazon:
Let her win the case first

I really do not care who wins. Either ways, companies and the consumer public will learn one or two things. And that's the most important thing.

AllenSpencer:
Bad reviews are a norm in any market.

Go the website of any brand you know and go check least rating reviews. They get lambasted often and don’t get people arrested.

Bad review is welcomed.

You can make reviews which can be good or bad, but don't make false/defamatory reviews. There's a fine-line difference between a bad review and a defamatory review.

Chioma's review turned from bad review (...it's too sugary) to defamatory review (...it's killing people).

AllenSpencer:
Hello, a customer has the right to leave a bad review.

Go to any brand site and check least ratings , you will find all sought of product condemnation there.

Anybody has a right to make bad reviews, it is not an offence.

You can make reviews which can be good or bad, but don't make false/defamatory reviews. There's a fine-line difference between a bad review and a defamatory review.

Chioma's review turned from bad review (...it's too sugary) to defamatory review (...it's killing people).

abbey621:
Does the tomato paste have more sugar than alternatives?
Does sugar cause diabetes?
Does diabetes kill people?
Has diabetes killed people in Nigeria?


CASE CLOSED!

That's exactly what she's sued for. i.e to come forward and defend her review.

It's not so simple the way you deposit it up there. You have to now show the nexus with that particular product with empirical evidence, i.e any known case of death as a result of consuming that product.

Does everybody that takes sugar have diabetes? No

Was Sugar content stated on the tomato mix can? Yes

Did Chioma read the content before buying or even before reviewing? I doubt!

Was Chioma intended to buy "tomato paste or tomato mix" ?

.......So you can see the fact that Chioma doesn't need Sugar or indeed too much sugar doesn't mean everybody doesn't need it.

Do you know the sugar content in most of the fizzy/carbonated drinks is almost half of the bottle itself?

abbey621:
Soshe's remanded in jail because of COULD? Una funny for this country o

It's the court that remanded her. And that's fair enough.

abdsamad:
So[b] if I say nairaland is a useless cesspit of vipers and demons, Seun should sue me and send me to jail ba?[/b]

This is simply a case of the powerful oppressing the rest of us.

If Buhari's son made the same statement would he be in court now?
If they charge him to court, he'll very likely win on the merits of the case. Same applies to this lady; it's very likely she'll win the case if the case were treated fairly.

And even if she were to lose the case, how exactly has she deserved to lose her freedom?
Calculate how much damage she's done and have her pay for the damages.

This should even be a civil case not a criminal case so I don't know how far up his butt the judge's head had to be to reach this conclusion. O wait, corruption. That makes sense.

I shaa pity us ordinary Nigerians for not having enough sense to see how this is a problem for us. We're there talking about how pained he was. I bet if it's revealed that his company does so and so damage to the environment we'll just look away like nothing happened.

He'll rather die than watch his 40yr reputation get damaged. Newsflah slowpoke: this is your reputation now. Where are the hardcore feminists to meme this as a clear case of male toxicity.

Please stop defending rubbish. Please.

If you say "nairaland is a useless cesspit of vipers and demons"
......that's a soft allegation which you could be true.

But if you then add... "those vipers and demons post messages that makes people commit sweetcide"
.......It becomes a strong allegation which Nairaland can sue you for to defend.

Chioma made her point, but the part she added "it's killing people" was where she got it wrong.

You can make reviews which can be good or bad, but don't make false/defamatory reviews. There's a fine-line difference between a bad review and a defamatory review.

Chioma's review turned from bad review (...it's too sugary) to defamatory review (...it's killing people).

dc23:
Even if she lied with malice I don't see how this is a criminal case.

Nigeria Judiciary keeps sinking by the hour. If it was a magistrate court I won't talk much, but how a full federal court takes up this non case and won't dismiss it instantly surprises me.

It could be a criminal case if it's found that there are syndicates behind her actions.

At the moment, the "syndicate point" is still an allegation. There could be people (esp. importers of tomato paste) behind all her actions, including the post and the media interviews.

Carazon:
Yes, NAFDAC did and her claims were false so let her come forth with a prove

Her proof is a matter of opinion. In her own view it's too sugary. Nothing wrong in her expressing her opinion. However, I personally think she took it too far with the part that says "it's killing people".

Anyway, I think there's more to this case that meet the eyes. It's sad enough that she's had miscarriage. May God heal her pain.

If she wins this case, mhennnn, Umeofia may be sued for damages that could take him out of businesses.

Also, the "over my dead body" comment from Eric is too deep. I pray he hasn't speak/ill-wish himself to past. The man is too loud mouthed for my liking. Ordinarily, he should have just allowed the company's media or customer relations to handle the issue.

Next time, you will ask the seller to place the item beside a commensurate dimension and snap the picture to you.

Anyway, it's a wicked world.

Conflicting court orders is a sign of dysfunctional society.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPNK7bc2qvM

I think this high tension work is more dangerous.

t2luv1:
Why get a loan in the first place? Someone needs to explain to me if is it compulsory that one must take this trip by any means necessary to be considered a good Muslim.

I'm absolutely fine if anyone decides to get a loan for pilgrimage. That's his/her personal decision. Afterall the loan is not taken in my name or your name.

What I'm concerned about is government using our collective purse to fund individual/personal pilgrimages that doesn't benefit the society. That, I don't support.

t2luv1:
It is not only in Nigeria Partner. In the USA you can file for bankruptcy and discharge for all your related debt but not for Student loans. Why is that because the banks inserted that clause into the student loan, Student loans originate from the USA treasury which is money given to the banks to administer by loaning it to the students the banks make money based on the interest repayment of the loan. Biden is currently in the process of forgiving some students loan with a limit of $50000. Hard to believe but before 1980 tuition at all public universities in California used to be free. Then Ronald Regan was elected then tuition was no longer free. Tell yaa the Conservatives will always find ways to fu*k things up. Just ask someone living in the United Kingdom currently. How they are enjoying the BREXIT they voted for.

Not sure I get you correctly. But my point is why can't people going for pilgrimage also get loans for their journey just as we are asking poor Nigerian students to get loan for education?

Abi pilgrimage and education which one is more important? Yet we are asking poor Nigerian students to get loans while the government is paying the rich to go "fornicate in foreign lands in the name of pilgrimages"

Racoon:
WTF! What the hell with using state or Nigerian monies to fund Islamic religious pilgrimage? Are the Christian pilgrimage and traditional faith being funded this way too? This shit has to be totally stopped.

The NASS is totally useless and dead anyway. Otherwise impeachment proceedings ought to be commenced against any governor or president that use state scarce resources for this rubbish

Christian pilgrimages are funded too. But both are wrong in a country that's asking students to get loans for education.

Ever heard of the saying: "If you boil stones long enough, it will become meats"?

unbiased2021:
If you’re not financially set to sponsor your own marriage, then you’re not ready.

Like myself, I decided to build my businesses to top class before thinking of anything marriage. I no send anybody message o, who never ready never ready.

Everybody will not be like you. And to each his own standard. Your standard is for yourself and not an authoritative standard for everyone.

Whenever my friends are having anything to celebrate, whether they ask for contribution or not, me and my circle of friends contribute.

As a matter of personal principle, I don't attend events or party without giving something towards that course. I don't go to party to spray money. I would rather give the money to the celebrant. And that I find comfortably to do well ahead before the party.

The world is filled with several perspectives. The lens and authority to view it doesn't reside with you alone. The fact that you don't take contributions doesn't mean it's a rock solid standard for everybody.

To the glory of God, I'm quite comfortable. Atleast I've been to all the continents of this world. So financially, I can say I'm moderately ok. Nonetheless, I don't do for myself what others can do for me. It's the spirit of camaraderie, and togetherness that's important to me and not the perceived boastfulness or feeling of pride that I single handedly do this and that.

I will leave you with this that might help you in future.
TEAM: Together Everyone Achieves More.

Don't shame us na. It's normal for family and friends to contribute towards a good course. Abi you want make dem steal ni?

Loverboy for film those years!

yarimo:
bitter OBI will soon react and also visit the place because it happens in Lagos state, but he is yet to react to the lady that was killed by Chinese company in Abia state

Na wa ooo!

SoNature:
In Matthew 7:1, the Bible advises Christians not to judge anyone. Let God be the judge of our deeds on earth.

I'm sorry, I don't read that Sir. And my own scripture tells me the exact opposite. "Judge all men, because you will be judged too".

Not everybody works with your book as the authoritative scripture! Quote your scripture to your sect next time.

SoNature:
I'll always remember this man for recovering looted money and relooting the money to the point that his own office declared him wanted and he had to escape from Nigeria. RIP to him.

I only write "Rest in Peace" for people that have "Lived in Peace".

flokii:
Let me not join issues with you.. you've won.

This is the best answer you gave that fool! Who does not know that Abuja-Kaduna route is volatile? The fact that he plied it everyday doesn't mean it's still not volatile.

If it's not volatile, Why does an airforce helicopter escort the trains between Abuja to Kaduna? Apparently, he doesn't know the meaning of Volatility!

SultanOfPuna:
Muslims pray to Allah
To help them find Iran president alive

The same Allah that can't fight for himself

If Allah can't fight for himself
What make you think he can save Iran president

There's no humanity left in you. Change your ways! SMHFU!

fineboynl:
For the past one month now pepper is very expensive and while onions is very cheap right now.

and I noticed no one is even talking about it unlike during the time of onions.

Here is N200 pepper

That pepper would probably cost N1000 or more if workers get #615,000 minimum wage.

Kingrshd3:
So wat next or y telling us

Exactly.

This is why I don't believe everything from dailymail.co.uk. So much make up stories from them.

Kushites:
Sorry, but this is nonsense.

What magic are other cities across the world using then?

Even Kigali, Rwanda doesn't build roads without covered drains and sidewalks.

Stop making excuses for incompetent govt.

Kigali
https://www.safarisrwandasafari.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/1414700616_MG_9796-750x450.jpg

Close drainage system is good but not effective in Nigeria because we don't have stable electricity. Those subway drainage have underground pumps that evacuates flood. Over the years, those installed in Festac and major cities in Lagos were either stolen, spoilt and rusted away. Also our lack of maintenance structure makes us to opt for sustainable option. There are several developed cities of the world that opt for open drainages as well.

Proserpina:
I hope she's aware she can be sued for this?

How will she know which of the numerous husband's wives that posted it from the lots esp. if she's cheating with multiple husbands?
And even if it's just one man she's cheating with, she can't authoritatively say it's his wife that posted it. Someone that's concerned and also someone that's not even connected to the woman could also post it just to teach this Helen a lesson of her life.

Unless you catch the person posting it in the act, it's difficult to know who did it.

What a good strategy to adopt to shame home breakers provided you leave no trace/digital prints behind.

immortalcrown:
The stupid wife can be sued for this.

Instead of facing your stupid husband, you are attacking the girl. Your husband will still find another babe if you chase this one away. Face the problem and not its shadow. Prevention is better than cure.

When he is poor, "He cheats on me".

When he is rich, "She is trying to steal my man".

How will she know which of the numerous husband's wives that posted it from the lots esp. if she's cheating with multiple husbands?
And even if it's just one man she's cheating with, she can't authoritatively say it's his wife that posted it. Someone that's concerned and also someone that's not even connected to the woman could also post it just to teach this Helen a lesson of her life.

Unless you catch the person posting it in the act, it's difficult to know who did it.

What a good strategy to adopt to shame home breakers provided you leave no trace/digital prints behind.