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hopefulLandlord:
those guys are still waiting for the TV that'll show Jesus

hopefulLandlord:
the Jew also said there are those alive then that won't die till he comes back, even told them to keep running when persecuted cuz he'll come fast and they won't run around too much before he's back

those guys are still alive today running all over Israel to escape persecution of Judaism and Islam, they're theoretically at least over 2027 years old right now, still waiting for that glorious return, running around for millennia

spacetacular:
Intellectual dishonesty or actual intellectual genius in truth. You are the one who is being intellectually defunct.

dalaman:
The people that wrote the bible do not even know that people lived in China and North America yet you are here trying to tell lies to yourself just to rationalize their ancient mythology and superstitions. You get work oo. So now every body will see the dead Jewish hippe's return via TV? You guys are real jokes. Keep making things up.

TLuzzie:
Indeed! IF it had a beginning. If Physical Cosmology later reveals that the universe had no beginning, and has existed forever, then the idea of an eternal origin must be discarded, and "God" in ALL its forms will be [color=darkgreen]permanently dead[/color].

TLuzzie:
Lol. When I call myself an atheist, it's in relation to the Gods of monotheistic and polytheistic religions, not the origin of the universe, which MUST definitely exist IF the universe had a beginning. So you might want to ignore semantics and letters and focus on the idea behind them.

TLuzzie:
Hahaha. Double think and Paradoxes are the trademarks of Abrahamists. They carry mutually exclusive ideas in their heads all the time.

felixomor:
Theist - (Merriam Webster Dictionary)

Full Definition
: belief in the existence of a god or gods; specifically : belief in the existence of one God viewed as the creative source of the human race and the world who transcends yet is immanent in the world...

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Please go and get a dictionary.

KingEbukasBlog:
Because God is a pure mind , infinite intelligence, consciousness while the universe is matter, unresponsive .

It's like asking why a book needs an author or why a program needs a programmer . The author is the mind behind the book , the programmer is the mind behind the program .

KingEbukasBlog:
There is no origin . And yes , the universe continously needs God for its existence. And God can decide to end the existence of the universe since it is greater than it and exist as a separate conscious being.

KingEbukasBlog:
No it does not because without God the universe will not exist . The universe needs God to continously interact with it for it to exist from past infinitude

That means God can decide to end the existence of the universe even though it has coexisted with It from past infinitude .

You get?

KingEbukasBlog:
A we talking of Christianity or theism? What concerns the scripture now because it does not even say the universe came from nothing.

Created out of the being of God is somewhat like panentheism, whereby the universe is the material manifestation and it interprenates in it but the immaterial being is yet distinct and greater than its material manifestation.

Ephesians 4:6 King James Version (KJV)
One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

I think this verse gives the greatest hint that everything was created from the being of God .

hopefulLandlord:
"Creation out of being of god" how meaningless can a sentence get?

TLuzzie:
Oh, interesting. Can you tell me how CREATION OUT OF [color=darkgreen]THE BEING OF GOD[/color] occurs, and which part of the scriptures of your theistic religion of Christianity backs it up?

CatfishBilly:
Since Spacetacular didn't answer my question, maybe you might.
Can prayer work in the face of an incompetent doctor?

hopefulLandlord:
https://www.nairaland.com/3799778/sub-saharan-africans-intellectually-inferior-other/5#56582764

EnigmaticEnigma:
That friend had no idea who my professor was.

Remember I said I called the tow company and if they had trucks available at the time, I wouldn't even have found the need to go to the computer lab.

It's not very often in Dallas, that you call a tow truck company for assistance and they tell you that they don't have trucks.

Lastly, imagine a key in the middle of the street. Not in a closed classroom or a closed toilet, but a street were thousands of students/ordinary folks use. Then of all the people walking on that street, it's my professor who happened to pick it up. Same professor I wouldn't have called, if not for my friend. Same friend I wouldn't have met, if the tow company actually sent a truck as usual when I called.

Remember, the friend suggested I call the professor cause he thought I may have left it in class, which may be common. Meanwhile, the professor found the key on the street.

ifenes:
This is really interesting. I am happy to see people who think outside the box with upgraded minds. All humans are the same but all do not vibrate at the same frequency.

All mobile phone can primarily make calls and send text messages but you cannot expect the 3310 Nokia to carry out the unique functions of an iPhone 7. In fact the vintage Nokia fone will argue that it is not possible to do a video call simply because it cannot do it or imagine such possibility. This is what goes on in the human world. Logic is limited and those governed by logic alone are prone to sever ignorance. They want evidence they can see with their limited foresight. It is not impossible to explain a 3 dimensional theory to a 1 dimensional being.

Once upon a time I joined an "Atheist" whatsapp group chat via naira land. Honestly I have never met such extreme ignorant minds as I did on there They claim to be "free thinkers" but will not consider the possibility of a parallel universe or possibilities of existence of higher dimensions. They were always quick to debunk. They crave debunking anything contrary to their views. Such mindsets are enslaved to science and Charles Dawkins just as Christians are to the false interpretations of the bible.

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheism belongs to the gutters .

Joshthefirst:
This is not a case of science vs religion. Christian religion has never declared medicine futile. So stop trying to put them against each other.

Image123:
Of course it does, serious people more brilliant and accomplished than you would ever be don't spend hours daily doing unimportant things that don't matter. Do they?

spacetacular:
Read above.

spacetacular:
And I have shown you that Prayer cannot be experimented upon. So the Templeton foundation prayer experiment isn't evidence as its impersonal to you. Below is an analysis of the experiment.

"The problem with the Templeton prayer study was based in the hypothesis itself: if we pray for someone then God will intervene in some supernatural way to restore a person’s health. No doubt this is a wonderful concept, but it eliminates the truth about the subject being studied. In the same way that the Prosperity Gospel cult has undercut the basis of Christian belief, this study is based on a lie. Somehow people have come up with this idea that if we ask for something then we can obligate God to deliver.

What kind of God would he be if we were able to say just the right words or preform just the right action that would somehow get God’s attention and thus getting a desired result? This concept makes God not God at all, but rather some cosmic vending machine or light switch

In John chapter 3 Jesus describes to a religious leader, Nicodemus, the nature and action of God. “The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going.” This makes the scientific study more akin to the study of psychology. If God is a volitional being, then we cannot expect that God will perform based on a regular standard and without fail.

In essence this study was not about prayer at all, but about the effect of positive words and their impact on a person’s health.

This is not to deny the power that abides in prayer, but it does stand in the face of a fallacy. Prayer is not about getting our goodies from God, but it is about trusting God to do what is best. It is about building a relationship and leaning on the truth that comes from that relationship.

This study would be just as flawed if it were conducted on child-parent relationships and we expected that the child would receive everything she asked her parents for. No doubt we would think very poorly of a parent who did that and it would be no stretch to expect that the child would be a lazy, fat brat. No doubt we would be in quite a big mess if God also fulfilled every request to our liking. It frankly gives me much satisfaction that this study was a failure, because it strengthens my trust in a God that cannot be contained".

So you see what you say drew you away from God drew another to God in a much stronger way.

Carefully read the observation again.

Humanistme:
you guys are funny

spacetacular:
Arguments without proof are not tenable. I told Jack to drop his arguments along with evidence. Have you done same?