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PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Election 2012 - And the winner is ... by Charlesnerd: 9:41am On Oct 24, 2012
My vote for Eze goes to Onlytruth.

Okija_juju should form a shadow cabinet and keep the incoming Eze in check with constructive criticism.He would do well in the opposition for now.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 12:35am On Oct 23, 2012
Okija_juju: Simple..

Onlytruth should wade in... Remove PointB, UJChief and 9ja_i_hail..

Select an unbiased electoral chairman.. afam4eva or Dede1 would do just fine..

Let the electoral chairman appoint electoral officers and commissioners to aide in the election in the area of counting the ballots since we no longer have the electronic ballot system at our disposal..

Then set up an election tribunal for post election complaints.

Shikina!
Your demands are clear,though at variance with that of your supporters,who simply asked that you be allowed to run for the elections.

However,those demands of yours are too heavy,its almost like starting the whole process afresh,now there are other questions of whether Afam4eva or Dede1 would like to take the position of electoral chairman,in the event of the resignation of the current members,so that leaves us with a cul-de-sac.And going to shop/elect new electoral board members would take another time and process to conclude,assuming its devoid of rancour and trouble from your supporters.

To be realistic,from a personal opinion,the minimum that can be done at this point,is to allow you stand for elections,which I canvassed earlier,before you officially withdrew your candidacy.

Having withdrawn your candidacy,and I believe you to be a man of your words,not a flip-flop,is it possible that you beg your supporters to calm down and allow the process continue.I believe they would all calm down once you issue your usual press statement grin

Biko gbaghara PointB,UJChief and 9ja_i_hail,they are only rendering selfless service and should be commended,despite any noticeable flaws.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 11:59pm On Oct 22, 2012
Okija_juju: My people have asked me to rescind my earlier stance and run... So I am back in full force.. Evil triumph in the land where good men fold their arms and do nothing..
Okija juju,please be realistic,what is your take on the way forward?
.We have derailed so much from the elections proper.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 11:40pm On Oct 22, 2012
Ivynwa: I am nominating Onlytruth.

Please Please people who ever it is that wins this election should note that the onus of working against the tribal hatings between the Igbos and the yorubas online is on him. I hope to see that E-feud die down when the new winner emerges please. Thanks
Very good comment,the primary responsibility of an Eze should be to promote peace among his subjects ,guide and enlighten them to accomplish the Igbo agenda,if any.

I believe an Eze is too royal to engage in petty tribal fights,he should be an embodiment of class,cultural and historical knowledge,with a firm grasp of contemporary Nigerian politics.

I hope the incoming Eze would take a cue from your brilliant suggestion.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 11:05pm On Oct 22, 2012
Okija has to call his supporters to order,they've been breaking bottles everywhere ,acting like ndi Agbero Upper Iweka , grin grin
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 3:39pm On Oct 22, 2012
For the records,Okija Juju has written a long and interesting epistle,stating why he would not want to continue with the process ;he resolved to support whoever emerges from the process,despite the obvious flaws.On this premise,I think people threatening fire and brimstone should revisit previous portions of the thread and make informed decisions.

As for Okija,all I can do is laugh so hard whenever he puts up those funny pictures and comments on how he spoke with his attorney. grin grin grin.However,that does not diminish the obvious truths which are laced in his comments,the rules have not been fair to him,but he has withdrawn voluntarily,so no point over-flogging the issue.

I believe the elections are still on course and dissenting voices should be accomodated,that is the beauty of democracy. I would also ask that all dissenters should make valuable inputs during the electoral reform process,cos if the present rules are still in place by next year ,Okija would still stand disqualified,so it makes more sense to start clearing the hurdles before the elections /nominations .I believe Okija still has a good chance to be Eze,his future is bright.

Dalunu.....
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 12:58pm On Oct 22, 2012
PointB: As a matter of fact. I think we should have and Eze Ndi Igbo Electoral Reform Conference. We can do that in our Parliamentary Office (https://www.nairaland.com/934808/eze-ndi-igbo-parliamentary-office) after the election.

What do you think?
Nice Idea.Its long overdue.

I think that should be topmost on the agenda for the incoming Eze.

Dalukwa....
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 12:42pm On Oct 22, 2012
Those Okija pictures got me laughing so hard grin grin grin

Biko, cut PointB some slack,he's agreed to review the electoral guidelines for the next election,you can stick around and make your input when the electoral review process starts,your input would be highly valuable since you've been a supposed victim of electoral manipulation.

Dalunu...
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 10:04pm On Oct 21, 2012
mimifonwon: why is it only open to men, mtchewww chauvanistic people...SMH..why can't there be LOLO or eze, whatever..not pleased at all!!
Go through the thread,there is provision for Eze nwanyi or lolo as the case maybe.

@PointB,like spyder said,maybe you have to modify the first page to reflect a brief of all that has been agreed so far.This for the benefit of those who might not have the time to scan through the whole threads.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 4:36pm On Oct 21, 2012
Dayokanu sounds like a changed man.Something tells me his Igbo girlfriend is really treating him fine. grin
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 4:15pm On Oct 21, 2012
Is the election losing steam or what?.Every other person is turning down his/her nomination.

I don't want to preempt Pa Eziachi,but I don't see him accepting his nomination,he has not been so active on NL of late .I could be wrong though.

Anyways,Like PointB has said,the process has to be concluded,irrespective....Dalukwanu
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 10:57pm On Oct 20, 2012
Great and explosive speech by Okija. He has also set a good agenda for the incoming Eze.

I think that sums it up.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 10:19pm On Oct 20, 2012
@Dede

Okpu adirokwam n'isi.If the reason you highlighted is sufficient enough to prevent a nominated candidate from standing for elections proper,then I expect the electoral team to wield the stick on that grounds,instead of the method of exclusion they had wanted to employ, which swelled opinion in favor of Okija.

Like you said,the matter should be laid to rest and I wish to rest my case for now.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 9:34pm On Oct 20, 2012
PointB: @Charles,
I think 12 hrs is fair enough. The process is self driven, and waiting for an individual for too long may cause other unforeseeable consequences. Personally, whichever prayer (yours or mins) the Election Tribunal chooses answer is fair enough for me. I just want us to move forward already.
Ok .I understand and agree with your decision. The ball is in your court.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 9:19pm On Oct 20, 2012
@ Onlytruth

Thanks for your clarification.I have been here much longer than my ID says.I am aware of all the "crimes" committed by Okija,they are all true and I know so many other persons who have been here long enough,or felt slighted by Okija's actions might not vote him if he eventually stands for the election.This is an obvious fact.

My position is,I want this election to be devoid of rancour and accusations,but a shining example of democracy,hence my insistence on allowing Okija to contest.I would be more glad to see Okija lose an election than being disqualified. This would show Okija that he has defecated on the altar,and needs to clean up,cos you cannot rule over a people you detest.

I would have thought that instead of outright disqualification,the tribunal would have collatted links to the thread where Okija made those scandalous comments,paste it on this thread, to educate people who don't know about Okija and his past,that would have made more sense than the current subjective method being applied.

Dalunu..
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd:
@PointB,the electoral commisioner

Thanks for the thoughtfulness of yourself and your team in agreeing to review the case of Okija,its a step well taken,and in the right direction.Udo diri unu.

However,I do not feel that the electoral team,with its composition and make-up would do justice to Okija ,if you are to go by the method of hearing which you have adopted.If for anything,going by the utterances of the members of your committee on this thread,in relation to Okija,I don't feel justice would be dispensed transperently.

On this premise,I would want to suggest that Okija should not be tried in absentia,he should come and defend himself before the tribunal members and the public.He should answer these questions.

A) why should the tribunal allow you to stand for election,considering the numerous allegations levelled against you?

B) What is your reactions to the accusation that you vilified the foremost Igbo leader while alive,and even in death?

C) what do you have to say about the allegation that you,in the past,ridiculed Igbos from other states and other Igbo groups?

He should be given 12 or 24 hrs to respond,and in the event of not responding,the committee can take any further action they deem fit ,as silence can be construed as acceptance of guilt.

This is just a mild suggestion and the tribunal is at liberty to accept it,modify it or reject it if they feel its not necessary. However,I feel Okija's case should be treated openly and fairly, in a way that even Okija himself would feel justified that justice has been dispensed and support any elected candidiate, while he waits for his time;I believe his time would still come.

Thanks for the work you and your team have done,though not perfect,but I believe you guys can do better since there is always room for improvement....Dalunu!
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd:
Eze Onlytruth,dalukwa,agam ekpu nkata n'isi we gwa gi okwu,maka na okwu na aso anya.I have read your submission. Frankly,I do not want to believe you typed all those,that should be the lowest point of your reign.Come on,even Ojukwu in all his knowledge and wisdom would not arrogate to himself the authority to decide whom to forgive and whom to vilify,he was a man who believed in the power of reasoning and consensus,this guided all his actions while he was alive.Okija Jujus sins are unpardonable?,damn!!,this got me laughing,Okija can as well be termed an outcast,Osu to be precise,since his brothers who are meant to forgive and caution him have ostracised him and consequently declared him ireedemable and worthless.Chukwu abiama,Ina afukwa ihe m na afu?

I do not see you as someone who does not mean well,but that statement is an insult on the sensibilities of people,an Eze should be Royal and unifying ,those comments were so pedestrian and undignified for someone whose words are expected to be of great import to his subjects.

Frankly,I do not like the way this thread has degenerated ,it has polarised opinion and has diverted attention from the main issue at stake.Its obvious from your statements that Okija would not be allowed to run,so going on appeal would be of little or no effect.

At this point,I would like to request that you have a rethink on Okijas case,mana o buru na ichee na Eze adighi eno aso mmiri ya,then the electoral committee should finally foreclose his case,strike his name off the official list and let people move on,instead tagging us along.

@Ifyalways,am glad you have a good head on your shoulders...Dalu..Jisike.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd:
I have noted with dismay the insistence of the electoral team to disqualify Okija juju from standing as a candidiate for the election.Obviously,this hard line stance by the electoral committee lends credence to the assertion that the rules were made to disqualify Okija even before the election.I would not want to believe this and I believe every right thinking person would feel so too,but with every action and pronouncement,it seems as if his fate has been sealed within the caucus of the clannish ruling aristocrats, even before the election was conceived.The clan has obviously profiled all possible contenders and selected who would succeed them and who would not,but if that is the case,why don't we nominate an Eze instead of conducting an election which looks more like a coronation since the choices of the electorate has been narrowed to a select few whom the clan has in mind to appoint. Its even more puzzling to note that Okija was nominated by four (4) persons whose right to nominate / vote has been nullified by the decision of the committee.
If the committee allows this to stand,they would have canonised Okija and portrayed him as a prisoner of conscience which would attract some unintended consequences.
I am not an Okija supporter,I am for fairness and inclusiveness. As a matter of fact,I was of the opinion that Onlytruth deserves to be re-elected,not because he's the best,but he has shown dedication and brought a different approach which I seem to be in support of.But right now,am considering on abstaining from voting anyone if this politics of exclusion is allowed to stand.I would not want the electoral committee to be seen as setting a bad precedence,I know its a daunting task to be in those shoes,moreso when you are not getting paid for it and might have other personal engagements which might suffer as a result of this act of sacrifice,but we should do the right thing and be fair to all and sundry.

Please, allow Okija to stand for the election,and if he fails,let him fail honorably.But if he wins,so be it,that's the beauty of democracy.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd:
berem: I don't care if he is an ojukwu worshipper or not! But whoever causes division amongst ndi igbo must be ruled out! He is not fit to be an Eze.I have never seen on NL where Ogun state indigenes throw curses on Ondo indigenes.or Lagosians insult Ekiti people.But people like Okija juju are fond of passing their hatred especially to Imo state.we want an Eze who would not bring hatred among NL igbos or always speak in favour his own state.

OKIJA JUJU CAN NEVER BE AN EZE!!
Lolo calm down grin grin.Its not a crime to be independent minded.Okija is logically correct ,but unfortunately there is an overwhelming sentiment against him by his fellow brothers and members of the electoral committee who feel strongly on the need to protect Igbo culture and the legacy of the current Eze.Going forward,I think there is a need to be more open minded and accommodating of different opinions and mindset,we should allow the process evolve by open and transparent participation,instead of the closed system which is presently in place;that is how great democracies are built and the Igbos are known to be republican in nature,that is why you hear people say "onwe ka oga adi,ekpulu nkata n'isi gwa Eze na onu ya na esi isi" grin grin grin.

Personally,I feel Okija should be allowed to contest,if he is elected by majority vote,so be it ,instead of the electoral team foreclosing his chances and alienating his supporters,who may be in the minority or majority as the case may be,they are Igbos too,and their voice should be heard.I dont think you would like to see anyone create another thread and elect a parallel Eze,that would be more abominable than allowing Okija stand for elections.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 4:38pm On Oct 19, 2012
PointB: I am also seriously considering the position of 'Lolo' in this election. I would like to see them rather as female Council members. Having seen the exploits of Dora, Ezekwesili, NOI, I believe that our women are more than capable of holding their own. Moreover, Igboland is a place where female empowerment is taken seriously, I believe our Nairaland should reflect this. I will therefore be willing to add two or more women to the list to give us this balance representation. The title they will go by, is however open for deliberation. But how to deploy them would be the responsibility of the incoming Eze.

So lets add a female each to our nomination while we deliberate on the appropriate title and responsibility to assign them. It will however cost us nothing to drop the idea if it is unworkable.
Thank you for understanding that political education and emancipation is a critical component.You would be surprised at the turn out of ladies from the romance board who would be very much interested in participating in this election,either as candidates,nominators or spectators.

In no particular order,I would like to nominate the following,based on the interest they have shown in the political process.

A) Odunnu

B) ifyalways

C) Berem
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 2:20pm On Oct 19, 2012
PointB: First, let me comment on Eze OnlyTruth's submission about the attitude of some council members, and his subsequent call upon me to resign and pick up the Ezeship nomination gauntlet.

Indeed, there were one, two, or more council members who for various reason did not live up to their billing. Whether it is an act of dissent, genuine lack of time, loss of interest, or feeling of redundancy, I wouldn't know. But what I do know is that leadership is a great responsibility and it is always easier if you have people that you can rely on, in thick and thin - agreement or disagreement. People you can always count on to be there when you need them, even though they might not agree with you always. Exception can be made for those who complained of tight schedules, out of coverage - these ones clearly made impact in the council while they were around, and the fact that you hardly see their comments on Nairaland suggests too they may have a point in their excuses. But for those who went AWOL, I believe they can at least offer Umu Igbo explanation for their action. I won't dwell further on this for now.

Secondly, the call by Eze Onlytruth that I resign and contest for Ezeship is indeed borne out of genuine concern for continuity, and perhaps what is good for Umu Igbo. I quite understand the intent and purpose, and I also feel humbled by other glowing tributes the Eze made on my person. Even though I feel there are some element of hyperbole in it. I thank him nonetheless.

But I am afraid, my responsibility at this point in time in ensuring we bequeath a lasting electoral guideline, which weeds out charlatans and ensures that only fit and proper Igbos gets close to the Ezeship, is one I take seriously. I do not arrogate upon myself the only one fit to do justice to that role, but I believe I should see this process through at this stage. If however, we fail to get top nominees to accept their nominations. I shall extend the nomination period, and stand down from the position of Electoral Commissioner, and pick up the gauntlet. That is the very least I can promise. I am very hesitant of changing the rule in the middle of the game.

In anycase, anyone interested in taking up the electoral commissioner job in that circumstance, or next year should indicate his/her interest so that the Council can make a quick decision.

Generally, I believe only those who show passionate interest in anything Igbo should be considered in both the Electoral members position and the Ezeship. Half-heartedness will take us no where.

Here I stand!

PointB
Electoral Commissioner.
An honorable clarification.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 1:53pm On Oct 19, 2012
For the purpose of fairness,I suggest okija juju be allowed to stand for the election.Let the voters decide his fate.Like I said earlier,the rules are subjective and rests so much powers on a few persons who can arbitrarily decide the fate of the majority by interpreting the rules the way they deem fit.For the next election,am inclined to suggest a review of the electoral guidelines, where everyone would put forward his/her input, to forestall cases like this where some people like Okija would feel hard done by if they are eventually disqualified.

Also,for those suggesting that PointB should step down and contest,please dont be clannish, but more inclusive and circumspect.Without prejudice to PointB,he is eminently qualified like every other person and I would nominate him if he wasn't part of the electoral team,but he has started a process and should be allowed to complete it;the goalpost shouldn't be shifted midway into the match.The electoral guidelines is silent on issue like this but common sense should dictate to everyone that its not a good step to take.

In the event that my sugestions are overruled and PointB is allowed to contest,then I humbly request that

A) Okija Juju should also be allowed to stand for election

B) We also modify the rules to allow for the Lolo contest to hold alongside that of the Eze.

I make the following plea with the belief that if the rules are so subjective and amenable to change,then it should also be inclusive and accommodating,irrespective of ones ideological inclination and gender.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 8:09pm On Oct 18, 2012
Lord Naya: @ Odeni Igbo aroli, Nri Priest you are a far more confussed bastard, you idiotic pig of no gender. Pls dont derail this thread. Revisit you posts on the last thread of developments in Imo state.
Two wrongs make no right.You guys should take it easy abeg.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 8:01pm On Oct 18, 2012
berem: nna jiri nwayo! Ochi choro imeru m ahu eba.

BTW is Chino the same as Chino11? Hmmm! I guess he is from Anambra right? He and Okija juju are birds of the same Feather.sorry to say this but both of them don't say good about Imo state.smh
My dear laugh well oh, we have dont have to be all uptight,this is not PDP primaries grin. As for Chino and Chino11,I guess they are the same person.But dont blame him too much,I think his world view has been shaped by the fact that he has hardly left Anambra state and interacted with people from other places,hence his parochial and supremacist views.People can be bad or good, irrespective of where they come from;there are good Yoruba men,Good Hausa men and Good Igbo men ,in the same way bad men can be found amongst the aforementioned tribes.The problem with the average Nigerian mindset is a fallout of the civil war,with a resultant effect of deep-seated prejudice and mutual suspicion amongst the major Nigerian tribes.

We can contribute money and take Chino on excursion to the eastern states first and to other parts of Nigeria latter.This would go a long way to broaden his views. grin grin
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 7:32pm On Oct 18, 2012
Odenigbo Aroli: Didn't you say you are from Umuoji? Don't play like that,hommie!
Its just a nomination, not like they've been elected grin grin
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 7:20pm On Oct 18, 2012
I also suggest we have another election for OSU.I nominate Bluetooth,Eko Ile,Cyber G and Rhino.5dm for that vacant position.I guess they would all be returned unopposed... grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 7:09pm On Oct 18, 2012
tchidi: Sexkillz bu onye igbo? Gwa'm okwu!! shocked
Well, I'm pretty new here, so I'll sit back and let y'all do ur thing..... Ehmm, but I nominate Ogugua88 as nwunye igwe grin ... And Berem as 2nd wife(cos 2nd wives are always d Agu nwanyis wink ). Thank you! cool
Nwunye Igwe is billed for next season.I expect it to be a hot contest between the amazons on the romance board.I look forward to their manifestos next season..... grin grin
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 1:11pm On Oct 18, 2012
PointB: @Mrs.Chima,
I didn't know that Sexkilz is Igbo and that you were nominating him. When I saw his name and the 1000 kisses you gave him, I thought romance has come to politics. Lol. I will add his name in the next update. You can still nominate a second person in addition, as you are entitled to two nominations.

@Crazyman, I am glad the electoral team have cleared every doubt you have. Thanks for the NYSC advert offer.

@Charles.Nerd,
Thank for your observation. The electoral team if I may speak for them are of the opinion that being a Mod does not hinder from serving as Eze.B[b]esides the current rule does not exclude Igbo Mods from contesting, and I don't think it best at this time to change the rule in the middle of the game. [/b]

Please let's keep the nominations coming in. We need the best Igbomen where ever they are to answer this noble call. To put our best foot forward is the essence the nominations process. This is where we have control, what happens at the poll, we cannot control!
Thanks for the highlighted part.I agree.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 12:20pm On Oct 18, 2012
afam4eva: This is not an election organized by Nairaland but by Igbos on Nairaland. Being a Mod does not stop one from being an eze.
I think you guys should look into this.I dont think you would want to have a controversial Eze.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 12:01pm On Oct 18, 2012
CrazyMan: See how you just contradicted yourself.

Isn't odumchi a mod also? Did he resign before he was nominated? Just admit that this election is for politics section igbos and friends of the section.
If Odumchi is a MOD,I think his nomination should not stand also,because he might be accused of bias or would not want to act for the sake of being accused of bias.The position of the Eze is partisan by nature and in a multicultural environment like nairaland,I dont think a MOD is best suited for the job,except he would agree to step down as a MOD if elected Eze.

Anyway,its left for the electoral panel to decide.
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Online Election 2012 - Nomination in progress by Charlesnerd: 11:48am On Oct 18, 2012
afam4eva: I guess it's because i rarely visit the Romance section...I really don't think we want a Romantic Eze. We don't want our girls to be turned into love peddlers grin.
lol@romantic Eze grin grin.moreover,I think hes a MOD too.So that disqualifies him ,except he would want to resign from being a MOD and stand for nomination.
SportsRe: Lance Armstrong Dropped By Sponsors Over Doping Evidence by Charlesnerd: 10:13am On Oct 18, 2012
Its been long coming.To think Lance Armstrong was even used as an exemplary model of a man who sets out to achieve against all odds makes it even more puzzling.The anti-doping agency says its the most sophisticated doping cover up in the history of mankind.

I feel for him too,but he has recovered from cancer and made cool bucks,all from doping grin.

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