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When the time comes,okorocha would be executed for harming the prosperity and peace of Igboland. And not only him but his entire family with him

AkwaIbomrep1:
you are a big disgrace to the igbo nation for vomiting such thrash against a tribe that feed this God forsaken nation , something an hausa man suppose to do & u as our k/kin (uncle) will be there to back us up & u are there spewing thrash, come to Akwa ibom even my villa u will see real love b/w we & our s/east brothers they dominate our markets which sells weekly even some major supermarkets ,yam stores etc etc are owns by the igbos no one disturbs anybody they leave peacefully & participate in some activities like sports etc my elder brother married from umunakanu ,Ehime mbano in Imo state & my elder sister married from Okpofe, Ezinihitte mbaise still in Imo state & so many man from my village married igbo woman ,& as am charting with u now my fiancee is from Ulakwo I guess it should be in Owerri north LGA in Imo state , It's very seldom to see our ppl marry from hausa or yoruba ,though ...'' Men stop the hate , s/east & s/south are one ....thanks!......#VisitAkwaibom

Don't take it to heart bro
Your people especially those Oros love to spill BS and when this happens,at times the most cool headed of my brothers might start spitting fire.
Pls fasten those marriage rites and become an in-law..and while you're at it try and learn Igbo language. It helps you blend in

TheSonOfMark:

Alas! A true Igbo man! Thanks for laying to waste that charade of enduring love for us. Eyen Amauke!

I bet there's a member of every Igbo family in jail for fraud! I wouldn't be surprised to find out that you pilfered the phone you use.

You are as fake as what your kinsmen sell.

Igbo boys sell fufu encased in phones! I bet you've considered money rituals. I bet you plan to use your mum!

Anambrarians eat snakes!

Ebonyis eat HOUSE RATS!

Accursed parasitic leprechauns!

Bring it on!

This little boy that uses crayons when others had progressed to Biros and pens. You only gave those for Anambra and Ebonyi, what of Enugwu, Abia, Imo, Anioma
Pls while you're at it for those four other states,can you get me a list of the Mmoño(since using efik or Ibibio would antagonize the other) alphabet

Sweetlemon:
Now you are talking. This is how you should have put it from the begining. We are similar, in fact we are a group. BUT we don't have an umbrella name that unifies us as a people like the way Igbos, Yorubas and Hausas do. So we are NOT Ibibios.

Babe you guys have an umbrella name and its called Mmong(Mmoño as my people call it). Now stop being divisive and embrace your fellow Mmoño people.
While you're at it,can you provide me with the list of the efik alphabet
I'd wanna start learning Mmoño

naijaguy77:
Are you sick? Since when did Oron people become Ibibio? And since when did Oro language or even Efik language become an Ibibio dialect?

Just consider the following facts:

1) Oro people speak oro language, they also generally understand Efik language but only because the bible was first translated into Efik, so the missionaries used Efik to spread the gospel. Even in the most rural parts of Oro, people can understand efik, but ibibio is some irritating sound that no one relates to.

2) Ibibio is a dialect of Efik, not the other way around. Efik is the main language, it is understood by everyone, Efiks, Oros, Ibibios, Anangs, etc. The Efik bible is what is used from Ikot Ekpene to Ikot Ansa, so I wonder which alternate universe you live in where Ibibio is a language and Efik is a dialect?

3) What are the characteristics of a language, as opposed to a dialect? Efik is studied in university, Efik has poetry and artistic music from Inyang Nta Henshaw to Peter Effiom, plays and playwrights, literary luminaries, Professors of Efik language such as E.N. Amaku, Efik alphabets and etymology. Jesus, what is ibibio? Ibibio is a barbaric dialect of the efik language.

Comparing Efik and Ibibio is like comparing Queens Engligh to Pidgin English, just because more idiots speak pidgin English doesn't make it the language, it is still the sub-language/dialect of proper English.

Maybe becuase you have started getting some oil money (which you don't even produce a drop of oil, oil is produced by Oros, Ibenos, and Obolos) and you are no longer houseboy and housegirl, you think you can come on nairaland and denigrate other people's culture and language? You better think again.

The Ibibios, up until recently, have been something of 2nd class citizens in that region. Because they live in the hinterland (despite being in a predominantly Riverine/coastal region) , they had the following misfortunes:

1) The Efiks and Oros are coastal people and their main commodity during the slave trade era were ibibios. They sold ibibios to Europe slave traders and this led to the generally perception of the ibibios as inferior. Since they had no access to the coast and were mere commodity.

2) During the colonial and missionary era, the Europeans first settled in the coast - Lagos, Calabar, Oron etc. Because of this, Education and Administrative generally went to people from the coastal regions, hence the reason why you find the oldest schools in these areas - Hope Waddell Training Institute Calabar, Methodist Boys High School Oron, St. Patrick's College Calabar, Kings College Lagos, etc. Because of this, the ibibios had no access to Education until the late 20th century. This naturally placed them at a disadvantage to the Efiks and Oros, who are coastal people and had earlier interaction with Europeans, embraced western education early, etc.

Today, you see jokers come on the internet to proclaim a barbaric dialect as a language. Can you tell us even one seminal work done in the ibibio dialect? None. You think a sound is considered a language because it is chanted by numerous monkeys?

What a joke.

The main language of the Lower Cross River Basin is EFIK. The dialects of Efik include Ibibio and Anang. Some related languages to Efik are Oro and Ibeno.

Nna eh
Iwe ji gi oo

NAIJASOM:
Opobo people have never ever denied their igbo root. They actively do everything to attach to rest of Igbos. They attend every major ohaneze meetings and don't have "AWA OYEL MENTALITY". if Igbos leave theis cesspit, I have no single doubt that they will join 100%. A massive sea-port will be built in opobo for big ships with a corresponding river port in ogbaku for smaller vessels

Exactly!
I've always known that opobo would be our seaboard... And to make it watertight, 10% of all revenues coming from opobo would be paid to the King of Opobo.
In that way,the Igwenga coastline would be secure and the population would be ethnically and culturally Igbo.
So even if the Ogoni fail to join us,Igwenga(Opobo and Andoni) would be our own Kaliningrad oblast!

Maxi112:
agree to be Opobo man..

That's even the best in my view. As long as your allegiance as a son of opobo is to the house of Jaja,we don't ve problems with it.
For Biafra, the descendant of Jaja sitting on his throne is Biafra's admiral of the seas

Ugomba:
I have told you my opinion.
And btw, why is it that anytime you mention Delta, you go with Urhobo, Itsekiri and Ijaw; and you remove Anioma nation?
Are we not Deltans again?

That shows that its time for Anioma to become a state. The so called "core" deltans don't want you guys anymore

basilo101:
the Apex igbo sociocultural organization is Ohaneze, both Delta and Rivers are members. i dont kw y igboland should be ceeded in the name of some contraption called south south

This is what I keep telling dovish Igbos like ezeagu that we'd not accept any part of SS Igboland be it ikwerre or opobo or even Anioma from being kept out of future Igboland in the name of a phantom SS

PedroJP:
Tonyebarcanista i doubt IJAW(ur tribe) can intimidate Igbos in ur NigerDelta dream. If ur plans are to have Ijaws take upper hand in affairs of a united NigerDelta, it has failed already as my Igbo brothers in SS can never allow that. They would rather have Igbos from SEast flood there to give them advantage in any manipulation Think twice. Better for u fight for Ijaw interest alone than think u will combine other ethnic groups to lord it over them..

Ochi nke a atolam iche
The OP thinks that the Igboids he's canvassing to join his phantom NDR would sit there and have his ijaws dominate them
If you follow the logic used at times here by one moniker called hopeathand,you'd know that the igboids in rivers state are more than capable of doing the highlighted aspect of your comment well

QuotaSystem:
The SS have nothing to worry about. No single inch of Nigerian land outside the 5 SE states would be ceded to the secessionists if their dream is ever considered by the FG.

In fact the FG is more likely to spend more time investigating the claims of the Igala people of Aguleri who have border disputes with Anambra state. Their lands would likely be returned to them before the biafrans are allowed to go in peace.

We've even through research found out that igalas are Igbos. it'd be a welcome development to in addition to Igbos and Ibibios in Biafra have the igalas and the idomas too in Biafra.
That'd mean a Biafra stretching from river Benue to the Atlantic

DaBullIT:
You hearam with your own ears abi ?? abi you see am with your own eyes ? If people no be goats , na Boko haram i hear say dem dey ready to die , how one dan danza shege mutum go tell him fellow citizens say make them kill 10 sojo before them die , all them him pikins why dem no die join ?? until people get sense for ss /se /nd , na so so suffer suffer dem go dey suffer

Last but no be least , Sojo die pass Biafrans , So if the kill wey dem they call massacre na 5 million Biafrans , definitely applying your logic , he mean say na 15 - 25 Million Sojo die , so all those Sojo wey die no be human being ?? why una dey always cry massacre ??

Ihe a gosiri na o nwere ndi dika onye a mu na ya naekwu naesi n'otele eche echiche!

juicee1:
so, you honestly think your own lives will be better just cos you are going to get biafra?

Imagine all ibos returning to alaigbo. Do you think the land will contain you? Don't you know that the competition will be unbearable for ibos? House rent price will increase amidst other harsh realities.

Every region will suffer should Nigeria disintegrates, but the regions with a good foundation now will not.

Pls stop thinking the SS will go with you cos I can already see the OP mapping out developmental strides that can only be achieved with abundance of oil which SE lacks.

The OP calling PH igwu ocha shows the false love you have for the SS. You guys couldn't even wait for them to join biafra before even renaming their cities and grabbing their land. And you wonder why they call you oil thieves.

Its now clear that all you guys know is to go from one Igbo thread to the other looking for trouble and creating nuisance!
That map represents 95% of Igboland and it also include both SE and SS Igboland. Talking about inclusion of others, did you see yenagoa,warri,Bini on the map
Or uyo or ogoja or calabar
I don't know why a particular Nigerian tribe loves to be stupid despite glaring evidence that they need not to be

vicenzo:
Isn't this supposed to be an Igbo fantasy thread? What exactly are Yorubas doing here?

Seun, lalasticlala, etc. If you lots won't put these Yorubas in chain, then I am going to the Yoruba development thread, and I am so going to mess it up that the only place it's going to end up is tribalism thread.
And Amadioha will judge and strike any of you, if you don't interfere here now by banning all these Yorubas but decides to ban me in Yoruba thread.

Off I go, Yoruba thread here I come.

Seriously I wonder what kinda people Yorubas are

The SS is made up of 4 different groups viz
Igboid(RS,AKS,Edo,Anioma,CRS)
Cross River/Mmoñoid(AKS,CRS,RS)
Ijoid(Delta,RS,Bayelsa)
Edoid(Edo, Delta)

These groups had regional centers and the only true affiliation Igboids have there are the Mmoño or Cross river group of languages.

ezeagu:
Self explanatory.

https://s16.postimg.org/vchhtna78/Alaigbo.jpg

Though your map is good,permit if I may criticize your map a bit
1]the Igwenga coastline is absent. I wonder how the Great King Jaja would feel if his people the Igbos left his descendants behind. Igwenga(opobo, andoni and bonny island) are Igbos and nothing can change that.
2]the Western bank of river Cross starting from its confluence with Aloma to its bend at Arochukwu belongs to Igboland. In your map,only afikpo has direct boundary with the river while the upper aspect which is present day Abi LG of CRS isn't represented

Pls,make appropriate changes to reflect the data you missed out together with their projected economic potentials.
See maps of pre 66 eastern Nigeria( I couldn't find maps of the East central state created by Gowon as it better explains my points

DaBullIT:
useless people


is that what happened ??


Holy Jihad ?

Of course
The msg was very clear from radio Kaduna and Igbos and to an extent Ibibios,having already seen the brutal pogroms of July and September '66 knew that radio Kaduna wasn't joking
And coupled with the charge from the Supreme leader to kill at least 10 Nigerian soldiers before dying, you can see why the war lasted longer than it should with more military casualties(btwn thrice to 5X that of Biafra) for Nigeria

PointB:
Even though I don't agree with the tone of the Op, he did raise salient points which even a child can see, viz:

1. Niger Delta oil is already being stolen by Nigeria
2. The oil will eventually run out
3. Nigeria will eventually divide, and it will be very hard for all, especially the ones without resources to trade


Now the question is, compare to what they are losing now, and what they 'think' they will lose in a federation with Biafra, which is a better option? I think it's a no-brainer. It's no secret that the SE region has huge proven reserve in oil and gas, so what the big deal with Ijaw oil?

You bother yourself too much about Ijo...I myself wouldn't want them in Biafra. Their excess oil wealth and its attendant pollution is something I'd not want Igbos and Ibibios to partake of.

To all Igbos(both in the SE and SS),
Those pix above shows the sacrifice our fathers made to ensure that Great Biafra stands.its time we show them that we'd not fail in our duty as descendants of Great Biafra
Great Biafra has fallen,just like Great Goguryeo fell but we as the descendants haven't failed!. When our own "Dae JoYoung" comes,I want us to join hands with him and resurrect the state that Eri built and his son Ifikuanim established its power.
Pandishi ,we as Igbos must survive and reclaim Great Biafra!

trapQ:
True... The SSerns should even be the ones feeling victimised because we've been feeding the nation for decades and our lands have been devastated, our water polluted with oil spillage.

We're simply enjoying the national cake that happens to be in the SS
Baby stop whining and join us in chopping the national cake

CSTR2:
You dey craze.
If you want Palestinian independence, go and ask isreal and leave biafrans alone.
Your senile president voted for a free Palestine when he has separatists groups at home. And to make it worse, sent delegates to the Israel parliament for national support like a dimwit.

Seriously at times I find it hard to quantify his stupidity

EUROBOMBER:
every day we hear ss/niger delta people shouting that Igbos want their oyel that is why Igbos are trying to drag them along. I wonder how a group of people could be this dumb to fall for this cheap propaganda from upper Nigeria. My question is are the northerners not already sucking the oyel? When you hear this people shout about Igbos it looks like the oyel is just there and nobody touching it but the northerners are taking it so what is wrong if indeed the Igbos want oyel?

The Niger Delta environment is already being destroyed beyond remedy. Your waters are polluted and fishes are dying. Your farmlands have been ruined and the air you breath is filled with poison. Oil spillage everywhere and it will take centuries to redeem the environment. Thank God this is not in SE at least as defined by Nigeria.

I say let One Nigeria stand until the last cup of oyel is taken from the ss. Let us continue to collect monthlty allocation and chop. The so called ss are iredeemably dumb to be shouting at Igbos to leave their oyel when northerners are drunk on the same oyel.

The Igbos will resist attempts to restructure this country until we finish the oyel/gas in the ss. By that time breaking Nigeria will be very easy and the ss will be the biggest losers.

My Igbo brothers, let us leave this dumb ss people alone and take our allocations while it lasts. They will be left with their wretched environment when all is done.

Even though am a secessionist, I'd ve no option but to agree with you. Igbos have been stupid for long trying to gain justice for everyone in Nigeria forgetting that some love to remain slaves.
Since Nigeria's unity is based on oil,when the time comes,I'd become a "Federalist". In this toga,the Niger delta would be milked to the extent even water would start coming out of oil wells and I'd make sure that not only would Anioma be created,but all those places carved outta old East central state(oyigbo,egbema,abi) into either Rivers or Cross Rivers state would be returned to the old East central state(present day SE).
The remaining Igboid Rivers(excluding etche),since they love to be ignorant would be the card we'd use in the enjoyment of the ND oil money.
Afterall,who doesn't like oil money

willow0802:
Are you aware that your brothers in my father's land are immigrants? If I would rephrase that, it means, ijaws are immigrants in opobo, bonny province, biafra

Excerpts below.

Since you are blind, please glue your eyes to the bolded..... even wiki agrees with me

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nkoro


Opobo–Nkoro (also spelled Opobo/Nkoro) is a Local Government Area in Rivers State, Nigeria. It is part of the Andoni/Opobo/nkoro constituency of the Nigerian National Assembly delegation from Rivers. The capital is Opobo Town.[1]

The Opobo–Nkoro people are mainly farmers and fishermen.They are of Igbo extraction. They speak Igbo language Just like the neighbouring Bonny founded by Ndokis of Azuogu, slaves from the hinterland transformed the demography of the area when the Transatlantic Slave Trade was abolished. Ijaws who came in as porters also settled there and the Igbo language was adopted. Although, there are no indigenous Ijaw communities there, most Ijaw migrants and porters have fully been integrated into the original indigenous Igbo communities.

Pro-Natura International Nigeria has been assisting in community-led development in the LGA.

Great piece I must say
Truckpusher, since you'd be standing with the ijaws to block the reclamation of our lands carved into the phantom SS,our armies would've to fight you as well.
While you're preparing to fight us,tell your ijo brothers living in Igwenga(andoni and opobo LGs) that they should either go back from where they came from or be prepared to live in the Igbo culture

Ngwaukwu1:
Your map is essentially based on arbitrary boundaries created by others for us. The boundaries were imposed on us by hostile tribes and their lackeys who view us as vanquished people. A generation ago our fathers were forced into a fratricidal war, in which they were outgunned and the outcome of which was that they ceded part of their ancestral lands to those who saw themselves as the victors of that war.

But we that have grown out of the rubble of that war, built lives out of the ashes and now stand proud, some of us a lot better off than the so called victors, do not agree with the boundaries. My brother we have seen the pictures of the war, the swollen and protruding stomach of our starving fathers, grounds littered with the bodies of the innocents slain just because they wanted to go their separate ways, and we the descendants of the survivors must make up our minds that no more shall we live as vanquished people. No more, shall we bend our backs and turn our cheeks in humiliation, allowing others to decide who we are and how we must live.

When the time comes, every piece of our ancestral lands on which the blood of our fathers and uncles and brothers and mothers were spilled; every piece of that land, will be reclaimed. So my brother, put away the map you have drawn. For though it is not your intention, that map insults the memory of over 2 million of our flesh and blood that were slain by the same people who see us as vanquished in war, and carve the boundaries of our inheritance for us.

My brother, put away this map, biko, and go back to your drawing board.

My deepest respects to you
I've no regard for men who give out our territories to appease disgruntled enemy elements.
All we've to do is endure the humiliation the other Nigerian tribes are giving us while building our power.
When the time comes,we'd burst forth like a raging flood and swallow everything in our path

Anioma is formed from two Igbo words called Ani & Oma meaning beautiful/good land.no amount of brainwashing can change the fact that the three senatorial zones of Anioma viz Enuani, Ika & Ukwuani know they're Igbo and will forever be Igbos no matter how political things be.
All Bini/Edoid or should I say Niger Delta land grabbers be warned kos the SE would cut off the hand of any riffraff that touches Anioma land or her people!

Welcome on board brother... Your northern etche kinsmen in ngorokpuala and ohaji egbema LGs of Imo state are wondering when their southern etche brothers in Rivers state would join them in the SE

ezeagu:
They aren't ceded, those are possible results of a referendum based on the peoples political leanings.

Which app do you use in editing and producing maps

I can't believe that someone would cede our territories to please some disgruntled elements!

Ciscogod:
If lagos is a no man's land as u just said. If later biafra dream comes to past. Whose region will control lagos?

It'd be an overseas territory of Biafra after all as a first rate Afrikan power,don't you think Biafra won't need an overseas territory
Mtschewww

AkwaIbomrep1:
yes my brother trust me I speak for the majority forget those yorubas on this forum claiming they are from Akwa ibom or cross river trying to tell u we are not interested in Biafra , they are all yorubas , because no sane being from Akwa/cross will deny Biafra ''Major GEN Philip Effiong'' we salute u sir ...no more free oil for the northerners when Biafra come ...God bless Biafra ....Abasi adiong Biafra my fatherland ...''

Igbos and Mmoño are brothers and in Biafra,tightening this bond would be essential and one way we'd do it is to make every Biafran bilingual.this means
1]every Igbo would now have to learn Ibibio as a second language. The Aros are already speaking Ibibio as their second language in addition to Igbo,so the policy would now be spread allover Igboland
2]every Mmoño would also have to learn Igbo as a second language. The Obolos are already speaking Igbo as their second language in addition to their Obolo dialect of Ibibio,so the policy would be spread out across Ibibio land.
The Ogoni though they're a Cross river language, would be invited to join too

Dhugal:
Jaja didn't "come" to Opobo,he established Opobo.Took the virgin land from the Ibibio tribe that originally claimed it and established a state on it.Opobo is his personal property and that of his progeny for life to come.
Who taught you all these nonsense you're spewing out?.
Opobo's history is so recent it can never be rewritten nor changed by anybody.

Exactly!!
Opobo is the property of Jaja and his dynasty and nothing can change that. I'd even suggest that in addition to having King Jaja's portrait on our currency notes,that his descendants be crowned Grand Duke of the seas(Obi Ukwu nāchi Osimiri Biafra) with the rights and privileges that come with such position