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Ever had a burst of adrenaline?

Most of your points below are irrelevant and serve as a distraction to the case. Even if her CGPA was 0.0001 and she was a hoe, no one has the right to take her life.

You want justice or you want to paint a picture? You’ve got to make up your mind.

Sterope:
Lol. You are the opposite of logic

Please lie down and try lifting up a stabiliser to hit your imaginary attacker. Don't take a min just lift it up

Then consider these:

1) she told her friend where she was going
2) She shared her location
3) she was in constant communication with her when she became suspicious.
4) She was on the phone with her friend when the called dropped...her friend said she heard a scream
5) She hasn't graduated but was already hustling. However, she can't be frustrated with the job market yet to be willing to drop her skirt for a job
6) She had a 4.0 above CGPA
7) Did you see her Tweet and hoe she described herself
Did you miss the part where Uduak is a fucking serial rapist?
9) After he confessed he lived about the job, you think a person (NOT Ini) would still have sex with him without duress? Or give conditions while under duress?


INI ISN'T THAT GIRL

Which part of all the above did you miss?

During a criminal activity, the aggressor can switch to victim and vice versa. Its not cast in stone. Imagine if your boyfriend came at you with punches and you feared for your life, pulled a knife and stabbed him. At a point in the crime you have been a victim and an aggressor.

If a robber pulled a gun and in a bid to escape one slips and hit the head and die. He’s not guilty of first degree murder; in the eyes of the law, He did not kill you.

These are the technicalities.

Kristinnee:
There's no way the guy can say he was defending himself. The only person that can plead self defence in this case is the victim if she were still alive. You lure someone to your turf, you decide to have carnal knowledge of her, she tries to defend herself and then you try to defend yourself from her attempt to defend herself and end up killing her and then you plead self defense? There can only be one aggressor and that's the guy, anything she does to him even to the extent of killing him is what can be called self defense. Not a guy trying to rape someone and she fights back and the guy gets violent and he claims he was defending himself. Defending himself from what exactly?

Please don’t be emotional. Imagine you put up this argument in court and someone turns up with a stabilizer that a 4 year old can carry. There are small stabs too.

Lets accept that she hit him with a stabilizer but in self defense. She was already scared for her life as he had tricked her with a job interview, kidnapped her & was going to rape her so she was fighting back in self defense and he murdered her.

If we don’t take that position, he will. Then it goes from murder to manslaughter as he will say he was defending himself.

Sterope:
You people read everything about Ini and believed that beast's version.

Ini would never agree to have sex with him without duress.

The women he raped didn't say it happened in a proper room for her to have grabbed stabiliser in this scenario

Many of you seemingly forget the weight, size and shape of a stabiliser. Stabiliser is not something you can grab that easily while lying down and also hit someone with it.

If you all go to court with these conspiracy theories and stories; this guy would walk free because they are baseless. There’s no evidence to suggest he belongs to an organ trafficking syndicate or that her body was mutilated or that he has killed previously. If he hasn’t killed previously, something must have happened for this case to lead to death. What actually transpired is what we should try to unravel. The timeline of events between when she got to him and when she died, thats how to build a solid airtight case.

Leave the theories for now. Putting together one solid murder charge against him is better than multiple unsubstantiated and frivolous claims. Of course, he lied about the stabilizer and the events that led to her death, thats a bit normal in cases like these, he probably has a lawyer now who is tutoring him on what to say and all. We just need the facts to counter him; an autopsy would have revealed a lot.

About Kufre Effiong, please give the man a break. Yes he made calls to David and also his sister did but both as at the time they did not know the facts. The idea at the time was that Ini was in danger based on a the 2sec VN/call to her friend and David was the culprit. We only learnt of her death when David was caught. All the time he probably was telling his family he was innocent and they were trying to reach out to him and help him sort things out just like you would do to your family too.

Nigerians need to wake up, the retar.ded analysis on here is frustrating. When you see murder suspects from developed countries are they battered? Why do you want him battered? Isn’t what you all fought against on 201020 and many lost their lives for. Against police brutality? Oh you want it for others but do not want it for yourself? Sick!

A Nigerian was sentenced to 27 years in Cyprus for murder...MURDER. If it was a Nigerian judge y’all would say he’s father knows or settled the judge. Politicians are behind him or Whatever conspiracy your warped brains can think of. But if we can shut up already and just think rationally without sentiments or emotions.

What Nigerians want and what they say are very contrasting. He can choose to be remorseful and can choose to be defiant and tell lies to save his life. Its normal. This is just an interview; its not a trial. The law will take its course. Then it wont matter how fresh he looks or the shirt he’s wearing. It will be about the facts of the matter and if you know anything about anything; this guy is never escaping this one.

Usually I don’t mince my words but I’ll cut you some slack as an OG. Your comment below is disappointing . I believe you should have done better considering your age and experience.

I grew up to see cute, shy, lovely boys become cultists and became really bold. Then they became terrifying, unambitious, irrational, violent and it continued to spiral downward from there. Lots died, some are alive today, their life has no meaning. Some made it through but are always thankful they escaped because it could have easily been them on the receiving end, it could have been you too.

We know bad things happen to non-cultists too but the University system isn’t set up to kill young people, send them to jail, turn them to drug addicts, maim them or turn them to prostitutes. Cultism as it is today is set up to do all that. Is it then not clear that if we extract cultism out of our schools, system & society, we will all be better for it as a people and a community?

I’m glad you made it through but think about the other who didn’t. Visualize how things turned out for you and how you could have been the one at the receiving end. Losing admission where you schooled and having to go elsewhere could have turned your life on its head. Even in the school where you studied, wrong company, being at the wrong place right time, right time wrong place etc. could have messed things up for you. These are the little details you have taken for granted.

Don’t be that man who eats 3times in a day and says there’s no hunger in the world. You may have been lucky but think about the others. The man who created the zebra crossing didn’t die while crossing a road before he created it; others did and he thought to stop it. Be like that man.

Fernandezaferna:
Of course yes. I cannot be ashamed of being a sealord. I'm proud of it. You don't know what BAN is so be quiet. Continue to live in dread �

Don’t create a problem trying to solve another. I read this take here and on various other social platforms. It is an erroneous take if I must say.

Anyone who wants to fight crime, bandits, killer herdsmen (not all herdsmen are killers) etc. should join any of the security forces that appeals to them.

We don’t need any person or group of persons taking laws into their hands especially not a body of murderers, rapists, drug addicts, kidnappers, armed robbers who call themselves cultists.

HedwigesMaduro:
Instead of the foools turn those guns on Fulani herdsmen...

Its all your fault. On a norms, she’s to be sleeping on the floor. Then you can ask her to buy small hostel mattress. You sold yourself cheap. Being nice to people these days is selling your self short. Most times they see it as weakness.

Quit being stupid. We’re talking Nigeria here plus even in the US, you do not have an assault/full automatic rifle. Who born you? Post it if you do.

I’m an American Citizen and have an AR-15. I’ll give you a photo of my AR-15 with my blue kpali & a sheet of paper with your nairaland username in it.

This wont happen because you’re a nuisance and a non-entity who knows nothing about anything.



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I owe you nothing, not answers, nothing but I do not condone injustice.

Burtonj:
Did you say all these when the marauding Fulanis were killing, raping and maiming the people of the east?

What were your suggestions to the injustice that has been happening to the easterners?

Where were you during the operation Python dance?

I await your answers on those questions

Lies

Tommmmybigd:
you don't know what you saying retard,back in the States,I have one ,man gats to protect himself,

Mr. Proactive. Most attacks have been carried out at night. The slowpoke in Imo is yet to react. He keeps crying to Abuja.

Every local govt where UGM has attacked should be placed on a 7pm to 7am, no vehicular movement curfew. All the criminal spots, raided. Tinted cars should be barred from moving at all, day or night. Hotels & bars must close during this time. All the security forces should be out and about on the roads & streets, anyone found with any type of arms should be shot on sight.

No chance as I’m here communicating with you effectively. You’re the miseducated slowpoke who wants a fully automatic gun for his ‘personal’ protection

Even VIPs in this country are not legally issued with AK47 but you want one, as per endangered specie that you are

ictjobber:
You are obviously an illiterate

You need an assault rifle to protect yourself Oya go to any Shoprite outlet near you, they have it in the toys section.

In a working country, you could be picked up for a post like this on a public forum to offer a detailed explanation after which you’d be put under surveillance.

Ak47 Wahala

Tommmmybigd:
due to insecurities in the country, I'm contemplating getting myself Ak47, please I need help,on how to get one legally,

I'm not happy about what's going on in This country, every one gats get protection,bois are not smiling

Either ways he had to go. He masterminded the killing of security forces & civilians and destruction of public property which in any sane society is a no-no. I know his supporters wont agree as there is a lot of sentiments due to his position in IPOB & his contribution to the struggle.

Anyone who takes the life of a Nigerian citizen must be made to face the music. Secessionist, Bandits, Herdsmen, UGM, Boko haram, all of them must be made to face the music. No one should feel emboldened to wake up one day & take up arms to go and take another person’s life for whatever reason. Because BH & herdsmen are doing it should not be excuse for anyone else. Two wrongs will never make a right.

Together or divided whatever tomorrow brings; we must explore civil means to achieve it. We’re not animals.

Amen & you too, thanks.

Anfield247:
Wisdom will not kill you, bro! You are blessed!

A woman is not to be hot tempered. How is she going to cope with your kids and in-laws or even neighbors? Thats HBP for you, sure banker. Also kids are cute and lovely but can be pretty annoying and frustrating, how will she cope? This will affect the atmosphere around your home because all the tolerance you’re having now will run short when you feel like she’s not being rational with the kids.

I dont know how you intend to go out all day and come home to a woman who gets upset at the slightest things, you see those guys that go to the bar from work and come home late? You’ll soon join them.

Take her for anger management and make it clear to her if she doesn’t show visible change, you cant proceed. Again, women are known to mellow when they’re with a guy they really like...think deeply.

Please seek proper spiritual guidance quickly. May God guide and protect you from the hands of the wicked.

kenzysmith:
in a way you are right only mum that is my friend for now my Dad don't want me to come close to him my. Sisters don't like me my brothers are not really close to me just like am alone

Put your phone down and go out there for spiritual guidance. I feel like your life/destiny might be in grave danger, you’re surrounded by people close to you ready to ‘devour’ you.

They are people really close to you thats why you are seeing the lions at familiar places. Note the key word here ‘People’. I don’t know but you seem to be all by yourself.

Yes you can. Its really all up to you, your determination and drive. You have a good plan but its really up to you to follow it through, planning is the easiest part.

Explain it to your dad and buy him into the plan, you need as much people in your corner to encourage you on the days when you’ll feel like letting it all go to flames.

Wishing you all the best.

Sheffdon:
Now, to be honest, I just clocked 26. I was done with my sec. education way back in 2012. Due to one problem to the other, i couldn't furher. I had to involve myself in some menial jobs to sustain myself for the meantime and along the way, i learned phone and computer engineering and i do brush through some very important books occasionally.

This is where I need your wise opinion guys. Dad got into a problem when i was about to finish sec. School and since then,hes been repaying debt till now. Infact, debt has comsumed all his salary. He's just borrowing from peter to pay Paul to survive.


And he's still of the opinion that i go to school. I got admission to study pharmacy at OOU in 2018, paid the acceptance fee but couldn't pay school fees and i lost it for good. So he wants me to try again but where will he even see the money when school wahala comes again? He's gonna go the borrowing way again i guess, compounding the problem we have at hand


So I've been thinking....what if i go back to factory work, then get myself a computer and learn programming "frontend development for a start"? I want to dedicate atleast 1 to 2 years to learn it. Then after that, i would proceed to school either on part time or full because i still want to further my education to get the b.sc cert. at the minimum.

Honourable men and women, i need your wise words at this critical junction of my life.

If I'm done with the programming, can it atleast sustain me a little bit?

Should I faithfully follow my dad's intention or just go through my own plan?


Thanks

Cc: lalasticlala. Front page pls

I’m talking in terms of competence & capacity. Every human world over is corrupt, even you Mr. lets not be on social media chatting like angels. The word you’re looking for is greed and/or avarice.

Nigeria as it is today is a reflection of each & everyone of us .

Cnach:
Forget about experience when it comes to Nigeria politics bc all their experiences bases on corruption and evil doing

He did, if you were a man of facts you would know. Buhari is doing great with infrastructure albeit plunging the country into debt which could cause us big problems in the future. FDI is so low & a lot of companies have left. Others are setting up in Ghana et al. During GEJ Nigeria was choice destination for investors in Africa. Even a lot of diaspora came back home to invest, they’re regretting it now.

Aconomist:
GEJ enjoyed oil prices of over $100 a barrel and didn't accomplish 1/5th of the infrastructure Buhari has done with less funds.

Terrible leader, well thats your opinion. If you knew anything about leadership or you have held leadership positions I believe you would be more understanding & less conclusive with how you rate leaders.

Aconomist:
GEJ speaks much better than the others on the list, but he was still a terrible leader so it doesn't mean anything. As for the rest, they can't even give a simple speech without reading directly from a paper. That implies low working memory, which is a hallmark of low IQ.

Evidently, anyone who doesn’t speak fast with your approved vigor is not intelligent. I laugh at you. Some people have the capacity, experience and exposure a lot of high IQ people do not possess. Listen to GEJ properly without bias. Man is intelligent and thoughtful, picks his words carefully and speaks better than majority of Nigerian men his age. Same with OBJ. Sanusi is an orator no doubt but thats not enough to say he’s leadership material.

High IQ doesn’t always translate to good leadership skills. Most high IQ people are bad orators. They’re not good at public speaking and have a hard time expressing their ideas. They usually just let their actions/doings speak.

Don’t be ridiculous. What you are goading over is the death of an innocent lady policewoman, 3 policemen attached to your igbo brother for his security. Killing of 2 police officers serving in your region. You have been burning cars & properties of govt. & private citizens in your region. I’m only asking that you stop.

You people have been killing people of other ethnic groups without reprisals, when the reprisals start hope you wont cry of victimization, you’re quite good at that. Thats how you lots started the issues that led up to the first civil war; after the dust settled you started to claim victim. Stop listening to misinformed and half educated dimwits, go and read up on history & educate yourself.

People who matter in your region are committed to Nigeria, they are in govt. & some will soon be slugging it out in one of the governorship elections. Maybe convince all of them to down tools and resign all govt. & party positions then we’ll begin to take you seriously. Until then, if you want a war so bad, you’ll most likely get a very bad one.

Stkilda:
It is the other way round. You are the one praying that Igboland be destroyed and millions killed again like you did in 1967, instead of just allowing them to leave, given that you hate them. I am only pointing out that this is not 1967, that you are at the risk of getting killed yourself because the war will surely be brought to you. So, please don't start a war in Igboland because this time, millions will be killed on both sides.

Mutually Assured Destruction for now because python dance 2.0 has not been activated. You seem to want a civil war so bad. It ended ugly for a lot of innocent people & the goal was not achieved. Why are you certain it will this time?

Be careful about the drums of war you are beating. Please think about it properly. Nigeria & Nigerians might disgust you but think about the estimated 3M igbos that died last time around.

A lot of you still hate Awolowo for the food blockage that killed millions. You forget that all is fair in war. Once there’s a war the govt. has to come at you with all they’ve got. Can you guarantee the safety of your children & women?

Never go to war with anger as your purpose and fuel. It will consume you.

Stkilda:
The problem with Nigeria is that they neither listen nor have empathy. For many years IBOP members had begged the Nigeria’s security to stop killing them just for carrying flags and for marching peacefully on the streets, so as not to push them to taking up arms. But Nigerians derided them, called them chest beaters and shouted, “Kill them all”. Now this same group is begging the same Nigeria’s security to stop militarisation of the Igboland and to stop torture and extrajudicial killings of the Igbo, to avoid another civil war. Once more, Nigerians are rejoicing and thinking that any war will be restricted to Igboland like it was in 1967. What these heartless Nigerians don’t understand is that there is nothing stopping the UGM from opening fire on people on busy streets in Lagos, Abuja, Kano and Kaduna as a deterrent to the killings in Igboland. What these fools don’t understand is that there is no reason why Eko Bridge in Lagos may not be blown to rubbles or NNPC headquarters in Abuja set ablaze as a deterrent to destructions in Igboland, that deterrence is how the modern warfare is fought. It is called Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD).

Noted.

Invitationn:
You probably misunderstood my submission.
I'm not encouraging anyone.
I agreed that the only way to stop the nascent chaos is general condemnation from the people in the region like the op stated, however, that it's not that simple given the support and sympathy the ESN enjoys form the citizens.
I went on to compare it with how Boko Haram was birthed.

You’re nice but sometimes with these ddumb folks the first thought is the same thought that keeps reoccurring. No logic, context or rationality. The broad picture is just a photo to them.

Also, these guys bombing and killing have their social media wing/team. You’ve been & will be reading a lot of them. That post is an agenda.

cloud:
imagine a society without a police force. Don't just come online and say the first thing that comes to your mind. Think first

What the hell is ‘memory amnesia’

You’re the human depiction of ignorance & arrogance. I pity fools who take you seriously.

Tranquillity360:
Sorry i forgot you have memory amnesia.

At the time the govt. had no experience with insurgency. If you think the same mistake with boko haram is about to repeat itself, you are wrong.

Quit giving these people false hope else you’ll lead many to their death. They rounded young men at Ohaji & Omuta in Imo yesterday. When they get back months from now, please speak with them about their experience.

Invitationn:
Well said.
But it's not that easy...Some of the citizens are ESN sympathizers.
Same way Boko Haram got sympathy from people in the region,built their bases, got strong and turned against the people.
With all their cooperation with the task force, Boko Haram looks here-to-stay.

Invitationn:
Well said.
But it's not that easy...Some of the citizens are ESN sympathizers.
Same way Boko Haram got sympathy from people in the region,built their bases, got strong and turned against the people.
With all their cooperation with the task force, Boko Haram looks here-to-stay.

There’s been no peace or decorum with either IPOB & MNK since I can remember. Even Shiites that have had the highest casualties from their encounter/experience with govt. forces are not as unruly and disruptive.

Tranquillity360:
Killing of unarmed ipob doing peaceful protest and meetings is what??