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They could be Ijaw

Logan23:
No. Any igbo speakers that also bear igbo makes around d world are Hausa-fulani

Delusions of grandeur. Paste your source.

Logan23:
The SE leads in terms of highest number of students that pass WAEC with 5 credits including english and math

They lead in highest number of jamb registrations (imo state stands @ number 1 in this regard).

Highest number of students that enrol for higher institutions.

Highest number of students that get admission into Medicine, Engineering and law in Nigeria are igbos.

This has been on for the past 20 years.

You’re not a very bright person. As an investor, will you go to where there are traces of gold to invest or where there are large deposits of it?

Investors don't know igbo or ijaw...they know comparative advantage, turnover etc.

And for your information, oil prices have been rising & falling from time immemorial. Basic principle of demand & supply. Which are determined by a whole lot of factors. In Europe & other climes where it gets really cold, people rarely move around, sometimes schools even close. The demand for fuel reduces drastically. Also in the summer, everyone is out & about, demand for fuel is higher. This is just one example. There are a lot of other factors like increase in production by the big producers thereby flooding the market. Thats why there’s OPEC to regulate.

Solar technology & electric cars are still up and coming; they’re not here yet. Maybe in the next decade. For now, crude is still running things.

This is how you present facts to counter a false statement; not insults and innuendos. Agreed igbos may be naturally bright but no way in hell you’re one of them. Are you even sure you are an igbo? You reason like an OSU. You better run a DNA.

Logan23:
""Haha! Crude oil talk is stupidity in 2021? Really? Electric cars & solar tech is why the price of crude has been low? You are such a hilarious fellow.""

Stop saying abnormal half-ish and tell me why the price of crude oil has failed to rally back to its pre-2015 price.




""How many barrels are being pumped in Anambra, Imo and Abia? Compared to Bayelsa, Rivers, Akwa Ibom & Cross Rivers? ""

Stop belittling ur self wit ridiculous questions.

Even if u can reason normally, u should av known that if the countries that buy ur crude oil daily start powering their houses, cars and industries with solar technology, Automatically the demand for ur crude oil will fall and the price as always will fall wit it.


If the Nigerian govt refuse to use the massive crude oil deposits in the SE, does that mean that the SE has little crude oil deposit? U dont even have sense, crude oil has been mined in the SS for well over 75 years now and u think SS will still have more crude oil deposit than areas that have been untouched?


There is massive gold deposits in 4 or 5 yoruba states and the govt isnt mining it, does that mean there is no massive gold deposit in yoruba land?

Since gold is being mined in the north and then very little gold is mined in yoruba land, Does that mean that yorubas have small amt of gold deposits?

You declare ‘Best Educational performance in the whole nation’ without basis or context.

You’re educated and enlightened igbo brothers would be disappointed in you.

Ekealterego:
Ok. We are on top when it comes to educational performance consistently for the past 10 years in the whole nation...
That for us is more than enough...

There’s no abundance of oil in the SE. The two south eastern states are the least producing in Nigeria.

You cant talk about these things, secession and all and not mention oil. Oil is crucial my man.

Ekealterego:
Guy nobody ever forced you... Why are you guys sticking to false statements. It is actually some youths amongst you that are pushing to join now. When the struggle resurfaced, people just assumed that the old Biafra will be in place but right now, nobody ever forced you. In fact, I have always pushed for your exclusion and many other people share the same sentiments.

Secondly, you were the ones raising the issues of oil as if we do not have it in abundance. No other place in the whole of Nigeria had more coal deposit than Enugu but you see, asides from the historical name attached to Enugu, they do not talk or brag about it because they know that ultimately. that is not necessarily the most important thing.
We care more about our human resources and potentials despite our oil and other resources.

Okay noted. So they are the ones you are going with. Lol, okay.

Ekealterego:
Guy, there is no crude oil in Cross River state, at least now, they are not an oil-producing state.. But those are the people we are going along with and not the Ijaws.

What potentials do the south east have that are entirely theirs and are a birthright that are not obtainable elsewhere? You think too highly of yourself.

With all your wisdom and potentials, asides Ebonyi, nothing exciting is happening in the south eastern states. Is it a yoruba or hausa or ijaw man that is your governor?

Abi all these potentials are not for you lot to better your own good?

Ekealterego:
Guy nobody ever forced you... Why are you guys sticking to false statements. It is actually some youths amongst you that are pushing to join now. When the struggle resurfaced, people just assumed that the old Biafra will be in place but right now, nobody ever forced you. In fact, I have always pushed for your exclusion and many other people share the same sentiments.

Secondly, you were the ones raising the issues of oil as if we do not have it in abundance. No other place in the whole of Nigeria had more coal deposit than Enugu but you see, asides from the historical name attached to Enugu, they do not talk or brag about it because they know that ultimately. that is not necessarily the most important thing.
We care more about our human resources and potentials despite our oil and other resources.

If you say its not enough then it can not be a big factor. You don’t decide on what basis they pick the side they want to be with.

A referendum will make it clearer.

gidgiddy:
Language may not be enough but it is a big factor. If there is a referendum, would you rather go with those you speak the same language with? Or stay with those you dont understand anything they are saying?

That question must be put to that 45% indigenous Igbo speaking people when Biafran referendum comes, lets see what they say.

You don’t leave today to fly into the future. You build the future from today. Oil is still a thing as at 2021 and will be till the next 10-15years if not more.

If you are more broadminded and read more you will notice asides the Igbos, there’s other tribes making strides as well, in many endeavors.

If the Igbo states have these deposits why forcing others to join then? Its got to be by choice. You cant force a people into your agenda, you buy them into it, if it doesn’t work you leave them alone.

Ekealterego:
When you people talk about oil, I see it as people without vision and have nothing else to offer. Do you know that Imo and Abia by legal definition of the NigerDelta are a part of it. Do you know that Abia and Imo state are both oil producing states (Also with very large deposits... even Anambra now... However, if you notice, they never talk about it, all they fight and bicker about themselves is about who is performing best in WAEC and JAMB and who is opening more industries, companies and innovations... They bicker about who has more big businessmen and who are putting up infrastructures and building houses.
The sooner Africans start thinking this way, the better for their advancement.

Haha! Crude oil talk is stupidity in 2021? Really? Electric cars & solar tech is why the price of crude has been low? You are such a hilarious fellow.

How many barrels are being pumped in Anambra, Imo and Abia? Compared to Bayelsa, Rivers, Akwa Ibom & Cross Rivers?

You know nothing about nothing.

Logan23:
Any talk about crude oil is pure stupidity...From 2014/2015 till now, that's 6 - 7 years, the price of crude oil has been very low in the intl market and that is because solar technology and electric vehicles are massively been produced, thus the market for crude oil will keep shrinking n shrinking until its price drops permanently to less than 15 dollars per barrel.

As for crude oil, Anambra,imo and Abia are already oil producing states AKA niger delta state....Crude oil was found in the Benue troph last year and Edda in Afikpo was where crude oil was found in nigeria for the first time (1927)......It's no brainer to know that there is crude oil on Enugu state.

So if crude oil is what ND have to add to biafra, then they are a heavy liability, cuz the north will finish up the crude oil in the niger delta and leave them with polluted land, polluted water and polluted air.......Is pollution what u have to offer biafra?

Alright then, all and any igbo speaking person in the world is Igbo & anyone bearing an igbo name. Is that common sense good enough for you?

Omuaro38:
Nothing defines the identity of a people more than their language, culture, and to a considerable extent their names. The Igbos didn't colonize these Igbo speaking subgroups in Rivers state, and I'm definitely sure those Igbo speaking tribes didn't just wake up one morning and magically started speaking variants of the Igbo language... just apply common sense from a prism of rational reasoning, and it makes things less complicated.

You’re right. I quick search put Igbo speaking people in Rivers at 45% but is language enough? If you understand how a lot of factors can affect and change the language and lifestyle of a people, you would rest it.

gidgiddy:
I dont know where to put Ijaw and Ogoni, Im not a Rivers man. But If you look at these Local govt's

Etche, Ogba-Egbena-Ndoni, Omuma, Oyigbo, Obioakpo, Ikwerre, Ahoada East, Ahoada West, Emohua are all Igbo speaking

We can also contest Andoni and Portharcourt

By and large, thats about half of the local governments in Rivers state

So Ijaw, Ogoni & others are 20%? Haba

The idea that anyone bearing an Igbo name must be igbo is where most south easterners fail. A man’s identity and roots has so little to do with his name.

There are British people bearing French names, they can never identify as French. Even here in Nigeria, all those with Arabic names are Arabs? Common.

AdakaBoro8:
80percent of rivers state igbo? what kind of kind of land grabbing was that?.. now the bingos need to believe that kanu is igbo supremacy fighter, not freedom fighter..

In the advent of a Niger Delta republic, they just need resource control, then the idea of Biafra becomes less appealing. Biafra will be offering the same Nigerian setup where resources from one region will be used to develop the whole country. I doubt if any oil producing state will want that after Nigeria. All the talk about seaports and whatever I consider bullocks. The possibility of Biafra being landlocked is not a disadvantage. There are landlocked countries doing quite well. Whatever the case, however they break, all the countries will still have to work together one way or the other whether they like it or not.

The Ijaws may have the numbers but in the reality of a Niger Delta Republic, the power bloc will most likely be the Edos and say Deltans. I say this because the Edos are just a state and contribute about the least oil from the Niger Delta but are still such a force at national level, they know the game. They were a force way before oil, they know how to play politics thats not hinged on ‘my oil’. Something I can not say for the Ijaws and some other tribes from the SS.

The Ijaws are a large number but lack a united and formidable front. Give them resource control, they’ll walk away from the centre, they may even turn on themselves.

Wow. How time flies

What would the problem be brother?

pheelhip:
Hey
its almost 9months now, i did be leaving here soon
thanks for your keen advice but me and this landlord or agent fii get problem ooo

Mccloud224

You’re right we cant continue to allow these ragtags ruin things for everyone however, wisdom is profitable to direct. Open confrontation when you’re outnumbered and outarmed would never end well for you. Even on one on one situation when you don’t really know who you are up against or had enough time to access him, its better to mellow down and let go. From my few encounter with cultists; they always wanna have the upper hand, louder voice and last say. If you’re smart, you can get the 3 points and gift them the celebration. Tact.

I know how annoying & unbearable it could be when someone you would manhandle in less time than it takes to cook indomie tries to bully or intimidate you. I’m 6’4, I workout regularly, I box too. I’ve had the thinnest 5’6 I’ve ever seen try to pick up a fight with me. It took alot of self control.

For other people calling him superman; well at the area I grew up, I’m a superman as well o. If you Bleep up, there’ll be too many people to treat you before I even touch you. And a lot of us non-cultists have people who have played the game at the highest level. If push comes to shove, we pull out their umbrella.

So there’s a lot of in-betweens but we must be very careful. Don't ever mess with cultists just because you hate them. Like they’re on their own peaceful chilling then you start something just because you don’t like cultists, that would be wrong. Also, don’t go & be doing anything stupid because you sit & drink with their Capo or even give him money from time to time, if y’all don’t have a proper relationship forget it, you can still be stew.

In all lets all be careful.

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Nostradamus:
they've been a pain in the neck of the residents because the residents have been extreme cowards who always cower and shivers whenever these guys are around.

instead of selecting some representatives in the community and making appropriate report(I'm sure the police will act swiftly if the report is coming from a whole community instead of just a single individual),the whole community chose to act like some members of this thread(buying beer and doling out money to those criminals).

thanks to the smart young man who headed to the cops.these cultists know soft and easy target and they've marked out that you friend's community as one.

This is a touching story.

Offorken

I understand how you feel but you must get off that emotional BS. You have to stop now before its too late. You have already done something stupid by attacking your friend and using a broken bottle on him but thats where it has to end. Stop for your own good not for anyone or even your friend, you must stop for yourself. Stop because this might destroy you. No woman worth fighting for would put you in a position where you have to fight. You should be counting your blessings. Your friend may have broken your trust and you may have lost the love of your life with whom you have invested a lot of resources and had high expectations of but you haven’t lost anything you can not get back.

You must let go and set yourself free. Your friend wants badly to make peace with you, please give peace a chance. He messed up; he has no excuse, NONE but that doesn’t make you God. He’s only here hassling with you because you have threatened him. Please forgive him. You may choose not to get back to the friend you once were but please give peace a chance. Years from now you’ll look back and ask yourself, why was I so angry?


ChumaZ

You should bury your head in shame. You have tainted your name & hurt one of the few people outside your family who genuinely care about you. I know you didn't rape her but you always had eyes for the girl. You had enough time to knock the crush off but you couldn't let it go. You made a grave mistake. Reach out to Ken, don't make up excuses. The burden is on you to build the friendship back if you really care about him. He’s heartbroken. He has probably cried severally about this. He is hurt, more so because it is from you whom he trusted. You must reach out to him genuinely and I’m sure he’ll listen. All the best.

I just been through the last couple of threads. Someone was talking about how the police know these criminals and yet appear to be ineffective against criminal gang cases.

The police may know the criminals but may not know who did what at a particular time. To know where a particular person was at a particular time, his role in an incident and how much damage or devastation he caused is what a solid case is built on and how we can lock criminals and gang members away. Without video evidence, they have to rely on key witnesses which we all know are hard to come by in Nigeria today.

There was a case of a cultist who went to kill another in his house. When he was arrested people in his own house testified that he was at home that night (out of fear, of course) while the people at the victim’s house said he was at their area the same night and murdered the victim. These kind of cases can only be resolved by key witnesses. Because after you still confirm his true location, maybe using the celltower signal on his phone at the time, you still have to prove that he indeed murdered the victim. The celltower signal wont give you that information. Only key witnesses can.

Also cases where known criminals are being released after serving a short time in jail are mostly down to this, lack of credible & actionable information & key witnesses. No matter how many people you know someone has killed; if he’s arrested with a gun during a stop and search, unless people come forward, he will be charged for illegal possession of firearm and would most likely do a much lesser sentence than he would have for multiple murders. Its that simple. I acknowledge that there’s fraud in the system as well but this is just about our civic responsibility and where we come short as citizens.

All the great Police force in the world rely on witnesses. Without which, their work will be tough. The blame is often neither with the NPF or citizens as both are limited by circumstances beyond their control. We need to go back to having a strong communal system. A jail-breaker should not be living with law abiding citizens who know who he is & watch him wreck havoc and appear to be okay with it. In the developed countries we like to imitate, that would never happen.

There’s the fear of reprisal attacks on people who ‘snitch’ on gang members and I acknowledge that the danger is real but lets change with the time and get ahead. We cant continue to be idle and useless. One can open a twitter account with fictitious names & a good VPN to hide location and IP. With this offer credible & actionable intel to the police via their twitter handle on criminal gang activity or location. There are VOIP apps that will sell a Nigeria number; with which to call or text police and cant be traced to you. And you can choose to share info with state command offices or the police public response unit who’ll in turn pass it on to local police incase the local police connive with criminals & gang members in the area. So lets be inventive. At least if anything, report a jail breaker who continues to be a danger to the community.

Lol. You’re here for the violence, aint you?

kingimmade:
kindly upload

I have just been on for a bit tonight and I observed a couple of people commenting have had their accounts for a while and may have put out too much about themselves on here previously. Please be very careful. This is not your usual nairaland thread.

Also, part of contributing to the thread is not to heat it up, creating unnecessary tension & friction. Lets be careful with the words we use with one another, whether the other person is a cultist/cultism apologist or not.

For all the good this thread does, in the event that a death is linked to the activities here, Seun and nairaland would have no choice than to pull it down. Lets all thread cautiously, cultists are always on the look out for cheap points to score.

I encourage OP @saynotocultism and the many others to keep up the good work BUT most importantly do not let up on your precautions, please.

Good night & God bless us all.

Hey guys, had to leave naija using a rare window I got to address a pressing health issue. Got back some days ago. Thanks for those who checked on the boy. I’m hale & hearty.

Thought to check on the thread, I’ll be with you guys again as soon as I can or when dollars goes back to normal

Cheers.

Maybe because you write so well, lol.

hustla:
What was he implying? That I'm chris 525?

You really should shut up but I dont know how to ask you to, without offending you.

Kfed4ril:
Oga stop chunning false info, like it’s stands now if we do another census today Abuja will be 2nd after Lagos.

Hmmm...precise.

Koralords:
Iroko was eiye ibaka killed by ayes 2004 in ibd poly

The reply above got me rolling! Like bruuuh! An owl! Hahaha!

Wait, you even fried it? Lmfao!

My game is to buy a pack or two at a time. Its you who sees no big deal with buying 15 packs at a time who should step up to 50.

Collyno82:
doesn't determines what you need, when you need it and how to acquire it. Step up your game.

Really? Thats crazy!

Futurejoy:
Most state governments try to decongest their state with mad people when they feel the mad people are too much and causing threats to the community. They use trucks and pack them then they go and drop them in other states. This has happened a lot In Akwa-ibom, trucks from Abia state and Imo state come and dump retarded people in the mid night when no one is watching......I guess that is what happened to your relative

There's a big pack of durex with quantity of about 10 small packs & slightly cheaper. All in one pack. Know your game.

Collyno82:
When you need a carton, but you don't have the money at the moment, you can as well buy ½ carton which is 20 pieces.

Right!

All the banks have their operational HQ in Lagos for a reason & its not cuz of the beaches.

GuyFawkes:
Emerging world my foot, a sleepy town meant for politicians and civil servants against a city of over 20M making it the 5th largest economy in Africa.
You gotta be kidding me.

Ambiitiouscent

Nice submissions all day. You have really carried the day. Please dont tire out soon.

Your idea of killing the snake by cutting its head off is valid. Dealing with the problem from top. Also, a way to bring down a building or establishment is to weaken its base - foundation.

With what saynotocultism has started, and so many others are doing here & on numerous platforms, we can continue to spread the message. Overtime - it wont happen in a day - cultism will become less fancy to the youths leading to less men, fewer resources, weak network & reduced influence for the nationals.

Should they refuse to dissolve at the point, then they'll be Generals with too few men to wield any power & little or no influence. More like caricatures.

We cant put all our hopes on them & expect that they do the right thing. If we are to be fair to the nationals, some have also tried but it didnt work. Its out of their hands.

SAY NO TO CULTISM.

OP please listen to everyone who's warned you about Abuja.
I'm not saying dont come, it may work out for you but prepare your mind.
Also never close a thriving business for another. Expand or Divesify.