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Offpointng:
Cuz we're tired of having kids with Autism, down syndrome and other associated kids disorders that comes from giving birth at an old age. Y'all should have mercy on innocent kids and take your mind off marriage and child bearing once y'all clock 35 abec

Maybe you should be preaching early marriage to men then

His commandment is that you don’t judge.

So keep your judgment to yourself and live your own life devoid of harassing LGBTQ people. All these things you guys are doing in the name of standing up for your faith is harassment. If someone approaches you to convert you to their side and you say no and they persist then you can rightfully claim you’re fighting whatever battle. As far as they are not asking you to become them, they just want rights in the society same as everyone else, then what you’re doing is harassment. No amount of Bible verses makes it not harassment.

Simple.

Hopefully I’m done with this conversation at this point

bukatyne:
We can't fight for God, that wasn’t the model Jesus gave us. He only fought principalities and powers with the Scriptures and power of the Holy Spirit.

Like Paul said in 2 Cor 10: 3 - 6
3: We are humans, but we do not wage war as humans do.
4: We use God's mighty weapons, not worldly weapons, to knock down the strong hold of human reasoning and to destroy false arguments.
5: We destroy every proud obstacle that keeps people from knowing God. We capture their rebellious thoughts and teach them to obey Christ.
6: And after you have become fully obedient, we would punish anyone who remains disobedient.

There is only one Jesus in the Bible and His expectations are 💯 clear.

If you love me, obey my commandments.

I don’t know the meaning of what? Are you kidding me?

At this point I think it’s the need to have the last word that keeps you talking.


As far as your response. Jesus hung out with sinners to convert them but you would turn your nose down at someone you consider a sinner because you see them as lost souls and feel great pity. Because you’re better than them? 😏
I don’t think you realize your self righteousness seeps through all the nonsense you write. You call them abominations, enemies of God. Your derision and unkindness towards them is not maskable.

Just do what all the other Karens do and take it up with upper management. Demand to speak with the CEO God himself and ask him why he keeps loving and blessing them “deplorables”. Or you could borrow a leaf and sit on your judgment since he’s clearly sitting on his.

Not to mention the absolutely ridiculous audacity of you to think you’re in a position; in any way, shape or form to tell me what my religion is. I suppose I should try to justify myself to you? Or prove my faith to you? You? Who died and made you bishop of the world?

I’ve really seen it all 🙊

bukatyne:
1. You keep using the word Pharisee, [b]I honestly doubt you know the meaning or know the context they apply /b]

Jesus hung out with sinners to convert them; to reconcile them with God. And we read how a number of them became great in the Kingdom of God.

That was His goal for hanging out with sinners. Not to affirm them; tell them they were doing OK, or to encourage their lifestyle.

And that is His expectation of Christians; if you are hanging out with sinners, to lead them to Christ.

Jesus deny me for speaking the truth? Of course, your Jesus would. We don't speak the same language. I don't even want to know Him.


2. When I say you are not a Christian, you think it is judgemental. A glimpse (not even indepth study) of the New Testament would tell you that every Christian has the duty of sharpening His/ Her brethren's faith. The Bible echoes it over and over that we have to love one another and keepers of our brethrens' faith. Apostle Paul even went far to say that if you are doing (not wrong) would cause a more sensitive brother's faith to fail, don't do it.

Even Jude in verse 22 said: You must show mercy to those whose faith is wavering. Rescue others by snatching them from the flames of judgment. Show mercy to still others but do so with great caution, hating the sins that contaminate their lives.

Jesus Christ in John 17 prayed earnestly for the unity of Christians worldwide; the Apostles emphasised on the different gifts that the Holy Spirit gave believers to edify and uplift each other in the Church. Paul said the gift of prophecy is better than speaking in tongues because prophecy edifies the Church. Ephesians 4: 2 - 6 says
2: Always be humble and gentle. Be patient with each other, making allowance for each other's faults because of your love.

3: Make every effort to keep yourselves united in the Spirit, binding yourselves together with peace.

4: For there is one body (all believers form the body of Christ aka the Church) and one Spirit, just as you (all believers) have been called for one glorious hope for the future.

5: There is one Lord, onw faith, one baptism

6: and one God and Father, who is over all and in all and through all.


P.S.: I had modified my earlier post to include Bible verses.

Jesus would simply call you a Pharisee and deny you. We know your kind would have been sitting in the bleachers judging Jesus for hanging with so called sinners. And wondering why your holiness is not attracting him to your side.

Until you learn to mind your own faith and realize that no one else’s spiritual practice is your personal concern, you’ll continue being out here fuming over things that are not yours to concern yourself over

bukatyne:
Jesus would what kwanu?

Encourage LGBTQ~ community? Be fine that Children under His care identify as same? Say LGBTQ is not a sin?

Please don't drag Jesus into your mess abeg.



# bold:

The only concern in your post.

To the outcasts as a result of sin, Jesus Christ had only one message: Go and sin no more. Besides, these people acknowledged that they were sinners so the natural thing was a pardon for their sin. Besides, He came to reconcile man to God.

I am jumping on these two posts because it clearly paints a wrong picture of Jesus to suit your agenda.

You can believe what you will, support what you will, affirm what you will but please leave Jesus and Christianity out of it if you are not ready to align with it.

God is a loving father and a consuming fire. Hebrews warns Christians that it is a terrible thing to fall into His hands and one fast way is to twist His word and actions (the Bible) to suit a demonic agenda.

Terrible

Okay love

Cry me a river

As if you’d even let an LGBTQ person step foot in your church much less lead them to “salvation”.
Na who no know una.

Steep:
No you don't know the real Jesus, Jesus didn't preach tolerance at all, if Jesus had preached tolerance he would not have being killed.
Jesus said he is The way to salvation, where is the tolerance there, by that statement he invalidated all other religion and ways of men.
Jesus moved with the outcast of society to lead them into repentance.
If you were on Jesus side you would be leading men into repentance not defending their sin.
David was one of the biggest sinners but in Psalm 51, he said he does not deny his sin but acknowledges he said against God, but he sought God's help in ridding him from his sin.

That is the humility God is looking for.

pocohantas:
https://www.nairaland.com/7619417/why-women-monetize-visits-advice

Your wife was heavily pregnant and rather than save, you were spending money on your sidechic. Hopefully one of your fellow polygamous men would help.

🫠🫢

Hathor5:
Cococandy, I just logged in because of you. I salute you and bow to you my lady. I admire your patience, openness and tolerance.

I wish I had the time to type more with regards to the topic but I don`t. All I can say for now is that it`s not surprising that people condemn what they don`t understand. It`s been like that since time immemorial. However, it is sickening to read the rhetoric about hellfire and sin and pit of hell when it was their Jesus who found a totally different approach to those stigmatized, the outcast of his own time. Anyway, I can`t go into detail but I am grateful you don`t let anyone, no matter how many, silence your voice. You are my hero.

Thank you 🙏🏽

I know what Jesus would do and that’s why I’m on the side I am.
I hope you’ve been well my lady. Long long time

frankyychiji:
My guess is 19. Chai.

I just went to his other thread it seems like she’s in her 20s.

More trust needed in your relationship. That’s the simple issue.

This isn’t even a man versus woman matter.
When you go out with your person, it’s natural to want to come to their defense if you feel something is not going right. And it should be natural for them to want to accept your love offered in the form you speaking up for them or standing up for them.

How old is this relationship? Maybe with time both of you can cultivate that trust such that you want have anything to prove to each other.
You won’t have to prove that she needs you and she won’t have to prove that she can do without you.

sisisioge:
Wahala be like bicycle for OP then. Where does he want her to leave her kid sisters?

Two with them and two with their aunt. (Where are the other two?)

Anyway I’m suspecting the aunt is probably tired of supporting them as well. Wahala really be like bicycle

sisisioge:
I think you should discuss the sister in laws economic cobtribution with the wife upfront. For instance, how they each will contribute to their own upkeep while living with you. Whether to start a family business that they oversee or find one job or the other for them. That way, you all will live together in harmony. If their is no arrangement about how they contribute, you guys wont last a year!

Imagine, their parents had 7 kids! It us well.

They are kids lol.

Probably the girl herself would be very young too. OP come and tell us how old your baby mother is.

Pepperdemisback:
Go and screenshot your comments when people are on her receiving end.
Where were you when she was celebrating Kpokpogiri's house demolition publicly and even thanking God for it?
Where were you when she turned Churchill to an Online ridicule?
Where were you when she disgraced Jane Mena till she had a miscarriage and still dragging her? What did Jane do to her?
Abeg, enter house!

I criticized her then too

Doesn’t mean it’s an excuse to be vile and wish death upon her. TF?

Breakfast

sukkot:
cococandy come carry ya sister oooo

Lol. I don’t mind claiming her. She’s gorgeous

Acidosis:
Do people see you as a man hater? Well, I don't think so.

are you new here?

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I also don't think they agree that men are generally pervs. People can demand "space" for the sake of proper differentiation and identification or simply for the sake of comfort. Some women are not comfortable with male gynaes and all male doctors are not pervs.

I promise you no one is that confused about who’s who. It’s just a ruse.

Interesting reasoning paths. This classification goes to show that there are multifaceted reasons why people say that a man should not aspire to be a woman and vice versa. Your classification does not cover all the reasoning paths though but let me address point 1 and 2.

@bold. agreed. I just didn’t want to keep typing but I’m yet to see a convincing one.

1. I believe their notion of "space" transcends the literal or physical meaning of space.
I've seen people say that "let kids be kids." Should kids avoid adults' physical spaces? Kids obviously need adult parents for nurturing.

okay. However all their examples have been literal spaces such as bathrooms etc. all physical spaces.

Adults also need adults for the purposes of procreation or/and romantic companionship. Procreation cannot happen without the anatomical and physiological properties of the two opposite sexes.

not everyone wants to procreate and that’s okay.

Romantic companionship should not happen between same sexes

and that’s simply your opinion. For millennia, people have been falling in love with people of the same sex. we don’t have to understand it.

unless something is mentally wrong. And this is where I stand. Mental problems should be treated not validated with laws.

for the purpose of this convo, let’s agree that it’s been classified as a mental illness. What do you think treatment is? Mind you, no two mental illnesses are the same. Many focus on management rather than treatment because not all things are treatable. Why is it that the same people who think they are mentally ill are the ones who are against gender affirming care? (I’m not speaking of surgery alone here). There are many services that gender affirming healthcare professionals provide to LGBTQ people that help with their depression, anxiety, dysphoria and body dysmorphia. The same people who have proffered no solutions except pray for them and or kill/torture them are the same ones who who stand outside the facilities that actually help them to protest the help they are getting. Keep reading you might begin to understand why I have the stance I have.

2. As much as some individuals praise scammers and other sinners, we all can agree that not many will outright demands laws that enable scam and other related sins. Committing a sin knowing that it is a sin is still reasonable and pardonable. This is why some sins are pardonable. People who see theft as doing good need psychological assistance.

Not a valid comparison. But let’s roll. Committing a sin knowing it’s a sin but believing you can say sorry and all will be well then you go back and do it again is a JOKE. A whole mockery of righteousness.

Acidosis:
I've been waiting for this

According to dictionary definition, a perve.rt is a person whose sexual behavior is considered not normal or acceptable.

Going by this definition, all men are not perverts.

You’ve been waiting? Lol
I promise I’m not trying to put you on the spot.

Also I asked if most men are pervs not all men. It can’t be all men statistically speaking. I still think your answer would be No. most men are not pervs.

Anyway the reason why I asked is that it’s intriguing to me seeing the people who would define me as a man hater agree with people who think men are generally pervs just because of a mutual dislike of LGBTQ people. Isn’t that amazing?

I wanted to know your reasoning path. It seems as though everyone’s reason is a little bit different but you’re all united by that dislike of LGBTQ people.

1) There are people saying men don’t belong in women’s spaces and that’s their reason. By this logic, these set of people should be against marriage because there’s no space that’s more for a woman than her home. Yet she shares it with a man. And FACTUALLY speaking women are at a higher risk of being harmed by the men in their lives than by any other person. This is a fact not my opinion. So where have all the “men don’t belong in women’s spaces” folks been the whole time that women have been getting married? Many have been getting harmed by their intimate partners and we are not hearing men don’t belong in women’s spaces?

2) For those who are against it because of religious reasons. Why don’t we see them equally incensed about other sins? They relate fine with all other kinds of sinners. sometimes they even praise and exalt murderers, scammers, deceivers and what not. I mean the list goes on. Personally this group irks me more than the “men don’t belong in women’s spaces” group because the first group is actually operating on some sort of sensible logic.

3) Also, are the hardline misogynists going to become best friends with radical feminists over trans issues? I Would love to see that happen. Will the men stop thinking that women are subhuman or will the radical feminists decide to throw in the towel and say you know what, we are fine with being beneath men if it unites us against trans people? 🤔

Acidosis what say you?
Are most men perverts?

Because most times she usually talks about doing her own too and I think she has the tendency to cheat If I do something to her like cheating.

Still searching for the problem

Very possible

Spicycat:
Who gave vigilantes license to carry pump action ( shot gun ) around the neighbourhood unchecked, these same so called vigilantes will still be the once kidnapping and killing people in the state and some neighbouring States because of greed.

This is an illegal act and the IG need to do something about it.

Infact they maybe part of the IPOB UGM terrorist themselves, collecting money from the senator and still doing evil in other areas in the South East.

Is empowering another vigilante group the right move?
Who says these ones won’t go rogue one day and there’s not way to curtail them. After having been armed by the government? Hmm

Pepperdemisback:
Make your pussy go rest in pieces

Jayhome24:
Madam confusion you wan die? Or your ogbanje time don reach?

We4all:
Werey, if u want to die, then do it in peace and stop chasing clout. I know the likes of Tonto are battling more problems that they can handle. Unfortunately, they brought these problems upon themselves.

just being vile for no reason

Why are these comments unsurprising?

marlow1962:
The future is female never reach Saudi Arabia?

sukkot:
this what we need in nigeria. these obidients be running they mouth like tobi amusan

fredoooooo:
Their rules the law their culture , if you don't like it kee yaself too

mrdharkchild:
Respect your Culture/tribe. Life is not supposed to be free.
Countries work because they have fear for something.

Don't allow the westerners decieve you.
They get into your country and tell you you're a slave, open your eyes, make you feel you're living a lie.

And you connive with them to kill your people.
I respect the Muslim/Islamic culture.

Culture is your heritage.
Always respect it.
If you don't like it, get the Bleep out.

Everything was built on blood.
Nobody, not even Christians are totally good.
Stick to 1 religion,belief or whatever and respect others.

Everybody, killed to be where they are today, same with countries, and the west are the worst-off

But you travel out and see your Culture as backward.
I laugh you in Spanish.

Your heritage/Culture is your identity.

I see we are adding touching of private parts to the spew of lies because without lies you have nothing to be irate about. So drag Queens are going around giving kids their private parts to touch and everyone is all cool with it. I know your bigotry has rotted your brain but there’s no way this makes sense to you.

Additionally, sex Ed doesn’t start until grade 5 and above. Typically in grade 6 or 7 actually. In case you didn’t know 5th grade and above is usually 10 years +.

Anyone who studies folks like knows you’re hella ignorant and will tell you anything they want because they know you’ll lap it up expeditiously. That way they’ll never keep you distracted while they are doing to real harm to you. Can’t fight for a better economy, environmental sustainability and fair living conditions for your future generations if you are busy propagating propaganda

Belafonte:
So in your twisted world created by lies and mass hysteria, when an LGBTQ person molests a child, they are applauded by the law? That’s where we are now?
Blatantly lying about things that don’t happen.
I swear I lose brain cells daily talking with some people on these interwebs. Would you kindly shows us the law that says it’s legal for gay people to sexually abuse children?

I don’t know if those smiling emojis are meant to convey that there’s something funny in any of that nonsense you typed up there.

Do lgbt freaks not perform drag shows to kindergarten children abi what is this liar saying? Is performing drag to toddlers and allowing them touch private parts not grooming and molestation?

There is no reason to teach little kids about séx education till they have at least achieved some maturity say about 10 and above. Can you tell me why lgbt is encouraging people to perform drag to 3 year olds? Have you seen heterosexuals bringing female strippers to educate toddlers in school about straight séx?

The very act of exposing children to these degenerates does not count as molestation to you? You're cool woth your children being exposed to nakéd men playing dress up? Smh

CuriousStudent:
It is not legally and socially acceptable yes,why have heterosexual males not being proscribed since they pose threat of pedophilia ? But you are calling for proscription of LGBTQ because of threats that are less frequent than heterosexual threats?

These are the kinds of lies they sit around and tell themselves in order to keep the fire of hate burning. In what world is sexual abuse and molestation okay if a trans person does it but illegal when straight people do it?
I can’t even wrap my head around how these lies bounce freely off the tongues of “godly people” without flinching at all.

Belafonte:
How can you say straight abusers are being arrested and imprisoned and then in the next breath say male groomers and molested are taken for granted?

please read and comprehend before you respond. I never said male molesters are taken for granted. I said the stuff y’all term as grooming when the LGBTQ folks do it is taken for granted when straight people do it. As in when kids are taught about different sexual orientations, then it’s grooming. Versus when kids are taught about heterosexuality then it’s normal and take for granted. It’s obvious bigotry causes brain rot because why is this simple observation difficult for you to understand?

Are there no armed robbers in prison? Are there no kidnappers in prison? Are the crimes of kidnapping and armed robbery still not being perpetuated? Does that now mean that because people refuse to stop committing crime the criminals are being endorsed by society? Haba, learn to be honest na

and then your lack of comprehension caused you to go on and say this totally irrelevant nonsense that has nothing to do with the conversation.

Okay, now that, according to you o, straight molesters are being caught and jailed, can you explain why the guys on your team are legally allowed to groom and molest children? Why is their own form of child molestation not illegal and imprisonable?

So in your twisted world created by lies and mass hysteria, when an LGBTQ person molests a child, they are applauded by the law? That’s where we are now?
Blatantly lying about things that don’t happen.
I swear I lose brain cells daily talking with some people on these interwebs. Would you kindly shows us the law that says it’s legal for gay people to sexually abuse children?

I don’t know if those smiling emojis are meant to convey that there’s something funny in any of that nonsense you typed up there.

Belafonte:
Lol. You're ridiculous. It's okay to admit that your fellow lgbt cotravellers are unhinged and you have ignorant of their endgame. You don't have to go down with the ship. BTW, straight men do not have an agenda to molest and groom children. Yes, straight men do but they don't have a campaign to further such ideals only the lgbt crew does

There’s a whole underground network of straight males who do nothing but target children for exploitation. Every single day hundreds of them get caught. To you that’s not an agenda. You only speak when you see LGBTQ people.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it. Some of you don’t care as much as you claim to. If you did, you would have been making noise about protecting these kids long long ago.

Belafonte:
Where do you see straight men going to schools to officially groom children? Lol. You're ridiculous

It’s because the thing y’all refer to as grooming when gay people do it is already taken for granted and accepted when straight people do it. I don’t expect you to understand that though.

Kids are not sheltered from heterosexual sex acts. They are taught that in social and biology classes. It’s normal and acceptable. Which is great because they do need to learn about those things anyway.

But people are different which is why not everyone is going to end up in a heterosexual relationship hence the mention of differences in gender and sexual orientation. Now in some twisted way it’s grooming. Why isn’t it grooming when straight relationships are talked about?

If LGBTQ people wanted to give you guys the same energy you give them, they would label everything related to heterosexual relationships as grooming.

I know everyone would lose their minds because you can fathom a world where you receive the same energy you give.

Dimaya:
watch the reaction of the men seating behind her

They seemed to be having heart attacks.

But I’m guessing the reactions of the people in the room with her means they don’t spend that much daily on food. Which tells me that feeding is still kind of affordable for the poor people then.

This small pikin so

Ladyhippolyta88:
Cococandy, this was not done by a drag queen.

There are hundreds even thousands like this man. No one has tried to cancel straightness tho. Lol.
It’s just bigotry and they know it.