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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 9:04pm On Dec 03, 2014
coogar:
especially arsenal/soton game...
a boring goalless draw would do me just fine. city should draw theirs too. i don't really care about chelsea's result.
The way its going seems Chelsea and Man city will have to fight hard to get anything.

Hazard just scored.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 9:36pm On Nov 30, 2014
nitrogen:
To be candid, we have many players, geez! And they are good players, Van Gaal's 3-5-2 will fit in two players in each position,

3 at the back, Smalling/Jones, Evans/Mcnair, Blacket/Rojo.

5 in the middle, Valencia/Rafael, Fellaini/Mata, Blind/Carrick, Di Maria/Herrera, Shaw/Young.

2 at the fore-front, Rooney/Januzaj, Vanpersie/Falcao.

And the bench has got one or two youngies, meanwhile, Nani and Harnandez are coming back o. Nawa o!

Abeg, we need just one or two solid defenders or better-still, one defender and one DM, then we can offload Evans and maybe Carrick.

Seriously, this reminds me of 2007/2008/2009, too many players, infact, I see united in second position or even winning the league, bar injuries sha.
There is no reason why we should not finish as the top 2 this season.

Just that the injuries have decided to concentrate on one area of the team the most or the two people earmarked for a particular position both get injured.

See how it made a lot of sese taking out RVP for Falcao and the threat level was maintain (assuming both have been in form & injury free)

The injuries are so annoying.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m):
afrodoc:
Midfield diamond with carrick at the base and di maria at the apex and herrera and blind either side.
.....................di maria......................

........blind.....................herrera...........

......................carrick....................

This offers the best option for our midfield to control possession with accurate passing and gives good protection for our defence
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We are being sentimental about who should play. This formation is soft.

We have a lot of good players vying for few positions that makes it difficult for us to choose. Many plyers have even gotten chance to play because of the injury problems we've had and when they came in they played well.

Fellaini, Herrera and Blacket comes to mind.

In a 4231 formation!

RB - Rafael when he is injured we draft someone else who is not naturally a left back.

CB - Evans, Smalling, McNair, Rojo, Jones we need just 2 for a game.

LB - Blackett/Shaw

Pivot - Blind, Herrera, Carrick, Fletcher Fellaini we need just 2 in a game.

LW - Young/Di Maria

CM - Rooney/Mata

RW - januzaj/Valencia

S - RVP/Falcao

Hope I did not leave anyone out.

The 352 LVG is trying to deploy even makes choosing players more complicated.
Some big names will sit on the bench if everyone is fit, just like how everyone felt Herrera had been freezed out.

If we buy strootman/Vidal and bring back Nani and hernandez. Well ur guess is as good as mine......
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 6:54am On Nov 30, 2014
afrodoc:
Anderson must be more catastrophically hopeless than i thought not to get even 5mins game time in the league......fat tummy, fat yansh, fat head, possibly more fat than needed in d brain cells.
Anderson would have done better than Fletcher yesterday!

StarBoard:
I think Southampton will eventually get to settle for a Europa slot.
They know they are punching above their weight by far.
So im not to bothered sbout where they will finish.
A city loss would do more damage to their fragile confidence at the moment and reduce the gap to just 2 points between us and them. Then we will know that they are onky third largely because of Chris Smalling.
Most likely! The koko is for us to just keep coping the 3points.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 8:25pm On Nov 29, 2014
SailorXY:
make Sunderland put these pig fvckers to the sword na undecided
It makes our win worth it as chelsea dropped points today.

City vs S'ton don't even know what I want from this match sef.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 6:25pm On Nov 29, 2014
Maybe am too anxious for the team to excel.

I still feel the players caress the ball too much and are always looking for safe side/back passes. Something we accused cleverly of.

Am happy we got the 3points and know this will instill more confidence in the team, I just want them to be more ruthless going forward. Hull were rubbish and we should have punished them more.

I would like to see more forward passes attempted and player touching the ball just twice (once to control and the next touch is an attempted passes forward) atleast most of the time.

We had 81-19 ball possession today, most of those passes were in our own half.

Anyways the 3points is most important, we had less ball possession against AssAnal and still got the 3points.

I love to see Falcao infull flight just like his interchange with Mata and his attempt on goal. That's the kinda movement I want to see regularly.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 5:41pm On Nov 29, 2014
chrisley024:
The game don dey tire me sef
I swear!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 4:52pm On Nov 29, 2014
Abeg Falcao should come in for RvP! Just that this side/back passes will frustrate any striker who needs the ball early.

RvP is either playing too wide or too deep and when he gets the ball he seems unsure of himself.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 4:44pm On Nov 29, 2014
Nobody is even attempting any defence splitting pass because Rvp is completely disconnected.

This hull team is there for the taking.

See how a forward initiated pass has made Rooney score now.

They need to attempt short onetime forward passes in the final 3rd and this hull team will crumble.

Loading them with 5goals will not be a bad idea.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 4:28pm On Nov 29, 2014
We have possession but when our players get the ball they seem to first turn backwards which for me is irritating.

To many unnecessary side and back passes.

Rvp na short one.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 4:12pm On Nov 29, 2014
Na wa oo one game one injury!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 3:37pm On Nov 29, 2014
SailorXY:
which kind formation go fit these players na?

it would have made more sense with RvP dropped for either McNair or Herrera huh
RvP needs to sit on the bench na. He has not contributed anything meaningful this season. A goodrest/spell on the bench should do him some good.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 6:05pm On Nov 28, 2014
Karleb:
Is that Anderson or his ghost? shocked
I had to use X ray glasses to be sure!

He does not even feature in the makeshift games. Was he injured or he had not shed of enough weight to play.

I hope LvG gives him a chance again, just that things are quite complicated and there too many players jostling for positions that might make that not happen.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 2:09pm On Nov 26, 2014
That Nani's goal reminds me of what Okocha did to Oli Khan in the BuLi when he was at eintract Frankfurt.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 8:10am On Nov 25, 2014
SetrakusRa:
You must be high on cannabis to think Di Maria would leave Utd.. So soon atleast
Adulterated wet cannabis for that matter. . . . . . undecided
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 12:48pm On Nov 24, 2014
Nihilist:
There's nothing to say that hasn't already been said.

Manyoo are playing rubbish football. Even your own fans admit this.

However the most important thing in football is the 3 points and not football aesthetics. And so far Manyoo are copping dem points.

Only a fool argues against the 3 points...

That said, I do believe you guys are riding your luck, and luck inevitably always runs out
Off course we acknowledge that our football can be better than what we are serving and if its luck that has gotten us to the fourth position especially with the amount of injuries that has characterised our season, then wait and see when we finally have fit players and play like the Man U everyone knows we are.

Chelsea is soaring high at the moment, sooner a bumpy run will come and we will see how you will cope.

We will soon unleash Falcao on the unfortunate teams we meet soon.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 2:27pm On Nov 23, 2014
I. Just hope we improve from here. 4th on the table is not bad at this stage.

If I was Lvg, Di Maria will kneel down hands up close his eyes in the emirates car park for like 3hrs for missing that chance. It was a disgrace for a player of his supposed calibre.

When are we gonna unleash Falcao, I feel he should be eased in by subbing him and VP in the striking role cause I think VP needs to warm bench small. Either falcao starts and vp comes in later or vis versa.

There were good individual plays, but as a team we still need improvement. I know we will get there.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 10:34pm On Nov 22, 2014
coogar:
we would have shipped in at least 4 goals with that formation.....di maria has a problem tracking back & valencia isn't a proper defender. the plan was to load up the midfield, absorb the pressure and counter in a clinical fashion.
formation had nothing to do with our inability to keep possession. we kept inviting pressure by trying to play out from the back when there's a much surer direct route(de gea to fellaini's chest). 4-2-3-1 will not improve ball possession.....the players have to be better than that with the ball.
SailorXY's formation is what I would go with. I also don't think we would have shipped in 4goals with that formation. Maybe we could have reverted to the 352 formation when shaw got injured. That would have been understandable, not starting with it.

Di Maria actually helped out defensively today. Although Arsenal were chasing the game, but we looked better when we reverted to 4 at the back with Blackett Smalling McNair and valencia with fletching covering, even though we were under pressure we seemed to have been able to work the ball out more comfortably for a counter.

Its unfortunate Rooney was called off and Di Maria fluffed that chance, there were other times we broke out and caused them problems.

The 352 is new and the players are not exactly comfy with it. It shows in there lack of belief when in possession.

This win just makes the formation look good cause its our first away win and we did it at Arsenal.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m):
coogar:
what would you have done differently with jones, evans, rojo and rafael out? shaw has joined that list again today. you can't fault the 3-5-2 formation, we cannot do anything else with 5 senior players injured.

take out terry, cahill, ivanovic, azpiculeta and felipe from their defence and they would be in the 19th position. arsenal must be kicking themselves for losing today - they won't get a better chance to beat united ever again.
I acknowledge that the injuries have caused us problems this season, but am also saying the players don't seem to to be comfy with the formation. We play like we don't even know whether to attack, sit and counter or just park the bus when we adopt that formation. Its like the players just use instincts to go forward because they feel they have to.

They only take the initiative when we go a goal down. Thank God that did not happen today.

We should be playing like we did when went a man down in our last match, those 10players were more positive than some of the dismal performances we have had when we had 11men on the pitch.

We were lucky today! But again we might play 22222 in our next match since Shaw has decided to join the injury list. Pls do we have a sexy fine babe in our medical team because the way these players are getting injured is becoming rather suspicious!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 9:18pm On Nov 22, 2014
StarBoard:
yeah kind of shocked that dimaria missed that chance. but do maria becomes a liability when shunted wide. playingbhim centrally gives him better opportunities to hurt opponents.

I think we got lucky given that Arsenal have hardly been purposeful in attack since the invincibles era dissolved . a more concise side woulda torn us to shreds in the first 25 minutes. it comes off as genius because we won. this 3-5-2 he began with that didnt get us any results initially suddenly grants us our first away win at Arsenal of all places given the huge injury list.

But it should boost morale. The one thing that I can take from this game is that we can dig in for a result if need be.
Am just happy we got the 3points. But am still not convinced we now have formular of some sort. I know the injuries have played a big part in our selection this season which to a large extent has affected our play, but as we have observed on this forum this 352 get as e be for us oo.

Once again, nice 3points.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 8:22pm On Nov 22, 2014
grin grin grin

Di Maria needs to be flogged with peppered koboko for missing that.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 8:06pm On Nov 22, 2014
Odunharry:
De Gae in Top Gear
McNair and especially smalling have had good games!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 7:52pm On Nov 22, 2014
chrisley024:
Goal na goal grin
Omo this is all I want. The 3points because we are playing nonsense.

Now that they have helped us score I hope we can hold and catch them on the break.

How that Di Maria pass to Rooney was adjudged offside is beyond me.

I swear, De gea is like 2people playing for us.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 7:21pm On Nov 22, 2014
Leyqute:
This carrivk be inviting attackers into the box. The pass wey dem say e sabi pass sef e no pass. And una still dey say Blind no better pass am?
Blackett too. This is what G neville was saying, there are too many safe passes.

Are we playing for a draw? This is the kinda game we should be winning.

Well...... We are still in the game sha.

Na this kain game I just need 3@oints anyhow it comes I don't mind even if na own goal from wenger. See where newcastle dey now. Chai...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 7:01pm On Nov 22, 2014
chrisley024:
This 3 CB is a calamity
Our players seem not to have understood this 343 formation. In their mind it simply means we will be on the defensive. Why LvG can't see this beats me. This is not the dutch national team na.

Di maria is lost, Rooney just roaming and VP is a defender. The defence just boots the ball upfront and it comes back. Have we even threatened at all.

It does not even look like we are trying to soak pressure and hit on the counter, I don't see any plan with this team/game.

I know we are playing away, but.....aahhh!!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m):
mcfarlin:
Hmmm oga ooooo wetin dey worry all this ex united stars ehn?

First scholes then neville..

I can relate more with scholes critcizing the team cause he was pure class during his time..

But gary neville...he shud jux shut da fuQ up!.
i totally agree with G Nevile. Blind actually plays too many square balls infact most of our players these days seem to be afraid of making intelligent incisive forward passes.

i have kept on saying that if you watch bayern, real madrid and Barca to an extend they dont dwell on the ball in their half making silly side passes that dont mean nothing, 3 - 4 passes and they are in their opponents final third looking for a through pass on someone is taking a shot on goal.

we lack that, always struggling to keep possession in areas that don't matter. we need to dorminate and bring back the fear factor.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 3:01pm On Nov 14, 2014
This thread en....... Nawa ooo

Dadehmola:
Rumour has it that herrera's days at OT are numbered already. Nawa oo undecided
Wetin happen. Him dey straff LVG pikin?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 1:11pm On Nov 03, 2014
elampiro:
n his latest blog, Juan Mata looks back on Sunday's Manchester derby clash at the Etihad Stadium...

Today I’m writing to you from home after a defeat that is not easy to take.

A derby is always special and the one in Manchester is really intense, you can feel it in the streets during the week. That’s why it’s hard to accept that we have lost and, despite not being able to help my team-mates on the pitch, I can tell you that the whole team is very upset.

Playing away against City is always challenging because they have big offensive potential, as it was shown, but having one player sent off in the first half just makes things more complicated. This is the fifth time this season that one of us has got a red card, so unfortunately we already know what it means to have one player less. But even though Sergio Aguero scored and we were down to 10 men, our team showed pride and almost tied the game, although this time it was not possible.

To be honest, right now, rather than looking at the table we have to focus on our path in order to improve and to win games.

Obviously this situation is not what we wanted, but in this moment the team must stick together and keep on going. I’m sure we will do it.

[Source: One Hour Behind, manutd.com]
We were all kinda impressed how we played when we went a goal down even with the man down.

Why we don't play like that when we are complete still baffles me. We seem contented passing safe balls btw the defenders. We shud be doing more incisive passes.

Watch Real, Barca and Bayern, they don't pass the ball unnecessarily amongst themselves. 2-3 passes most times and someone is attempting to score.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 12:51pm On Nov 03, 2014
Can we even compare Moyes' post match comments with LvG?

You could feel his lack of confidence and low level mentality when he speaks. Nothing to inspire the players at all.

Moyes was a disaster!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 12:50pm On Nov 03, 2014
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 6:08pm On Nov 02, 2014
Nihilist:
Why dont you play De Gea at CM and get on his back when he doesn't influence the game?
I really don't want to get into a Rooney argument!

Why will I play De gea in the CM, he is a keeper and knows how to hold his own in his preffered position.

Please tell me why is Rooney shunted left right and center?

What is Rooneys preffered position?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 5:41pm On Nov 02, 2014
Nihilist:
Rooney was playing in central midfield with Fellaini...Not even in the hole, but further back...just a little further up from Blind.
You cant really expect him to take the game by the scruff of the neck, while playing in an unfamiliar position.

Despite that, I think Wayne gave a very good account of himself today. RVP on the other hand..... grin grin
So because Rooney was playing in the midfield means he can't influence the game or take the game by the scruff even score?

This thing am saying no start today ooo. Sometimes when a player plays rubbish or an average game but scores, we can forgive that player, but when he does not score and had an average game which is not expected of such a player. It becomes glaring.

As for RvP, I just tire.... He is playing his preffered position, still yet we see abysmal performances. I will soon he hear he was not fed the ball. The one wey we give am wetin him do?

When I watch a Madrid, Bayern and Barca play, they play like they are looking for something. . . Incisive passes that are to create problems for the opponents. Many might not go thru but they keep on trying it until it gels. We just enjoy passing the ball amongst the defenders like it is going out of fashion.

We can't even dominate sef.

How does Ronaldo and Messi continually stay fit, playing and influencing every game?

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