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deomello:
You shouldn't be in this discussion to start with since you do not know the difference beween contact and MOU.


You keep talking about contract when in fact this is an MOU which is non binding.

Again, stop saying contract because this is not a contract.


Talking about contracts, yes you can cancel the contract based on the stipulated terms in the contract that requires such measure if the terms of the contract are not abide by like schedule and completion period.


You arguing blindly with irrelevant argument.

Clearly you dont know what you are saying Mr. Man. There is a BOT contract oga, that was signed in 2016. No wonder your politicians behave the way they do, they know the people they are leading, unfortunately, not everyone is blind. The simple question you failed to answer, who forced you to sign the contract in the first place, and who says the same way the Government perhaps messed up the selection of the contractual parties in 2016, they still wont do the same again. #yeyeleadersleadingfunnyfollowers

realborn:
You are very reprobate and have a very bad approach to your feedbacks. You should learn to address or react to the opinion of others on a faceless forum without ad hominem attacks.

Back to the subject, my comments:

1. I painstakingly explained to you the difference between an MoU and a proper contract. I am quite convinced that there are prerequisite conditions ahead of entering into a full contract. We are supposedly not privy to the letters of the MoU, hence we cannot lampoon the LASG for exercising her rights under the MoU. It is possible that both parties agreed to time-bound milestones as basis for determination. Why not wait for the concessionaire to contest or challenge the termination before blaming the LASG? Should LASG wait endlessly for an erring concessionaire because resources have been expended? Are you privy to the concessionaire's decision? How sure are you that the concessionaire did not opt to discontinue the process on further careful examination, irrespective of the efforts and resources expended? How sure are you that LASG did not give relevant notices ahead of the determination?

2. Kindly refer to item 4 of my penultimate post. I clearly stated "graft" as one of the key reasons why Africa is behind. Graft means political corruption. You can gain further understanding if you research on "graft(politics)".

3. Yes, delay by a party to an agreement is a very valid "relevant event" on any construction projects. Presently, I have a project where it will cost the Employer N15m/week or part thereof as loss and expense to the Contractor. And in similar vein, the Contractor will pay 0.25%/week or part thereof (approximately N12m) as Liquidated and Ascertained Damages to the Employer for time related delays.

It is good to share opinions. It is very wrong to demean others.

Oga nobody has demeaned you,you don't understand the wrong signal contract cancellation mean to the investment community, it simply increases political risk and reduces investors confidence in your system. Not when the likes of JP Morgan and AFC are involved. The country risk premium for Nigeria is currently at 6.4%+, this overnight emotional decision just raises questions. Why not spend proper time selecting project contractors to avoid stories and unnecessary legal battles in future.

Same way your polithiefcians were in a haste to sell moribund power assets to their cronies,and till today its one story or the other from all parties.

Where is the place of proper RFP and due diligence before selection. Now Ambode has wasted 12 months of development time due to their ineptitude and corrupt tendencies.

realborn:
Mr Cooldood,

I would have disregarded a response to your diatribe or tirade, but hey, someone could have been badly informed by your charade of limited understanding. My few comments:

1. Your opening remark "You do not know what you are saying..." is inapt.

2. Yes, a party to an agreement or contract can enact appropriate/apposite clauses to determine such agreement or contract.

3. Enacting a right under the relevant termination or determination clauses does not necessarily lead to a dispute requiring a resolution. Not at all. If the terminating party establishes a breach and gives appropriate notices or executes the determination clauses in accordance with the pre-agreed procedures, there shall be no dispute, and inadvertently, no dispute resolution.

4. Contrary to your assertion, Africa is way behind because of concessionaires or supposed partners who do not meet their obligations, and demand of graft by political representatives at all stages leading to deficient political will/integrity to call such partner to order.

5. The MoU often times is not the final contract. It is usually necessary to emphasize to eachother, willingness to proceed with the intended cause/intent for commencement of pre-agreef activities/deliverables ahead of entering into a proper contract. To this end, it is much easier to determine or terminate MoUs in the event of a breach. Kindly read the definition of MoU as culled from Wikipedia's definition:

6. Mr. Akinsanya, confirmed the cause of termination, "slow pace...". This would have been a relevant event defined in the MoU. The fact that the timelines were monitored by LASG is very commendable.

7. Mr. Akinsanya confirmed that the interest by other investors from South Korea, Europe and USA is very high. The prompt action against this concessionaire will send the right message to others that the LASG is a refined, astute and informed Nigerian entity.

8. Irrespective of how stringent the prequalification process is, either party to an agreement/contract can fail. What is pertinent, is to have the appropriate remedies to address any breach. A proper due diligence at the prequalification stage only reduces the risk of the probability of a failure/breach but does not eliminate it.

9. Dispute resolution methods are pre-agreed and allowed for in such agreements/contracts for either party to seek redress when such party feels the other party has wrongly interpreted the clauses or when both parties cannot reach an amicable resolve on a key contractual issue, e.g financial claims or extension of time.

Enjoi the rest of the day!

Again, you surely are on a lonely path, only you will complete.

The project was given to the concessionaire under a BOT arrangement for a period of 40 years and parties to the concession include Africa Finance Corporation, Access Bank, Visible Assets Limited, J.P. Morgan Nigeria and Advanced Engineering Consultants, and if these guys have committed huge resources so far, do you think it will be an easy run for Ambode and his fellow 'fools' to simply cancel and bring on board new parties, I laugh in German. Wait and see.

Also, have you seen the terms of the contract before you posited that Lagos State Government had a right to trigger a termination after 12 months into a project? What type of flimsy excuse is: "due to slow pace of the work", why are they not giving the public detailed info., or have they found a more cooperating consortium who will grease their palms quite easily?

Again, you mentioned that Africa is way behind because of concessionaires or supposed partners who do not meet their obligations, you can imagine such, it is clear you are far from the corridors of political actors in Nigeria (or you are blindly defending them or pretending, its either of the two). Most projects are given to the cronies of these political idiots, who then go ahead to do and undo, so blame it on your certified illiterate politicians who are simply thinking of how to max. out of huge infrastructural projects. Lekki Epe Expressway concession is an example (Tinubu is a major stakeholder in LCC, in fact, he owns a huge part of HiTech Construction Company- the construction company that is in charge of most road projects in South West), Lagos-Ibadan (Obasanjo to Bi-courtney, his crony), MMA II, Ajaokuta Steel Plant (Obasanjo to his son Gbenga) and so many others.

Oga, it is not about the speedy delivery of these projects, it is about kickbacks for these polithiefcians.

nwabobo:
2 years on and they are still talking about Goodluck Jonathan's administration.

Don't mind them.This administration is gradually cementing it's rightful place in the history books as the worst ever that most Nigerians have witnessed.

So they better focus on delivering within the next 12 months cos their end is near.

singlessubway:
if you are looking to get an idea of how much some popular Nigerian companies pay their entry-level staff (i.e. newly employed fresh graduates), then you’re just on the right thread.

Read on to see the exact figures that these companies pay.
Bear in mind, however, that the information on this thread is subject to sudden change, so some figures may no longer be correct. In addition, even though we’ve tried our best to ensure that the figures and estimates are correct, we admit that the information here can’t be 100% accurate.


Banking

Union Bank N180,000/N258,000
Guaranty Trust Bank N209,000
Diamond Bank N240,000 (N80,000 for trainees)
United Bank for Africa N142,000
First Bank N150,000 + allowances worth around N150,000+
Access Bank N237,000
Enterprise Bank N249,000
Keystone Bank N127,000 excluding allowances
Fidelity Bank Plc N180,000
Skye Bank N104,000
FBN Capital N400,000+


Oil and gas

Shell (SPDC) N667,000 (permanent), N250,000 to N500,000 (contract
Exxon Mobil N1million
Total Oil N1million
Mobil Oil Nigeria N500,000
Mobil Producing Nigeria N700,000 – N800,000
Schlumberger N500,000
Chevron N750,000+
Halliburton N375,000
IOCs E&P (upstream) N600,000 to N1million
Independents E&P (upstream) N300,000 – N600,000
Multinational oil servicing N300,000 – N600,000
Tier 2/ Indigenous oil servicing N200,000 – N400,000
Tier 1 downstream N200,000 – N400,000
Tier 2 downstream N150,000 – N200,000
NNPC N190,000
DPR N190,000
PPPRA N190,000
NestOil Plc N150,000??


Manufacturing

PZ Cussons N145,000 (RDM i.e. sales)
Meristem N100,000+ with profit sharing
Guinness Nigeria N120,000 – N160,000
Dangote Sugar N150,000
Dangote Cement N140,000
Nigerian Bottling Company N148,000 – N160,000
Cadbury Nigeria Plc N130,000
Frigoglass N50,000
Nigerian Breweries Plc N350,000
Lafarge N90,000 excluding allowances


Electrical/Electronics

General Electric N300,000+
Huawei Technologies N200,000
Tecno Mobile N120,000
Ericsson N88,000
EEDC Eastern Electric Distribution Company N350,000
PHCN N79,000 (excluding bulk rent and pay leave allowance


Auditing and consulting

KPMG N171,000 b.t. (non-chartered ET)/ N145,000 (non-chartered ETOP)
PWC N140,000 (non chartered)
Deloitte N150,000 a.t.


Telecommunications

MTN Nigeria N180,000 – N250,000
Globacom N120,000
Airtel Nigeria N100,000??
MainOne. N150,000

Others

P&G N200,00+
INEC N77,000 (including allowances)
PAL N77,000
Multichoice N40,000 – N70,000


Additional points to note

Listed figures are for professional, permanent staff, not contract staff or ETOPs (except otherwise stated).

Some figures represent net total with tax deductions, while some represent salary without tax deductions.

All values are for monthly pay (not annual).

Oil exploration companies pay at least N500,000 for entry level employees, while servicing companies pay at least N200,000.


Multinational oil companies pay according to global standards because their employees can be deployed to anywhere in the world. This explains why they pay the highest salaries.

Most bank employees don’t get to earn the figures listed because the figures are for professional staff, whereas 75% of bank staffs are contract staff who don’t earn up to one-third of the figures listed. So, don’t be surprised to know that most “bankers” don’t earn as much as the listed figures.


Aviation companies pay between N600,000 and N800,000.

Actual salaries may vary slightly depending on qualification and unit.

Most companies offering seemingly low salaries bolster their pay with juicy allowances.

Help us make this thread better

If you think some figures on this threas are wrong or outdated, kindly help us with the corrections (and provide proof!). Similarly, if you know the entry level salaries of some companies that are missing on this list, kindly let us know, and we’d be eager to add them to the list.

https://www.nairaland.com/3179141/entry-level-salaries-nigerian-companies

So in other words, and in dollar terms,

Banking

Union Bank N180,000/N258,000 (US$480/688 per month)
Guaranty Trust Bank N209,000 (US$557)
Diamond Bank N240,000 (N80,000 for trainees) ($640)
United Bank for Africa N142,000 ($379)
First Bank N150,000 + allowances worth around N150,000+ ($400)
Access Bank N237,000 ($632)
Enterprise Bank N249,000 ($664)
Keystone Bank N127,000 excluding allowances ($339)
Fidelity Bank Plc N180,000 ($480)
Skye Bank N104,000 ($277)
FBN Capital N400,000+ ($1,067)


Oil and gas

Shell (SPDC) N667,000 (permanent) ($1,779), N250,000 to N500,000 (contract
Exxon Mobil N1million ($2,667)
Total Oil N1million ($2,667)
Mobil Oil Nigeria N500,000 ($1,333.33)
Mobil Producing Nigeria N700,000 – N800,000 ($1,867)
Schlumberger N500,000 ($1,333.33)
Chevron N750,000+ ($2,000)
Halliburton N375,000 ($1,000)
IOCs E&P (upstream) N600,000 to N1million ($2,500)
Independents E&P (upstream) N300,000 – N600,000 ($1,600)
Multinational oil servicing N300,000 – N600,000 ($1,600)
Tier 2/ Indigenous oil servicing N200,000 – N400,000 ($1,067)
Tier 1 downstream N200,000 – N400,000 ($1,067)
Tier 2 downstream N150,000 – N200,000 ($533)
NNPC N190,000 ($506.7)
DPR N190,000 ($506.7)
PPPRA N190,000 ($506.7)
NestOil Plc N150,000?? ($400)


Manufacturing

PZ Cussons N145,000 (RDM i.e. sales) ($387)
Meristem N100,000+ with profit sharing ($267)
Guinness Nigeria N120,000 – N160,000 ($427)
Dangote Sugar N150,000 ($400)
Dangote Cement N140,000 ($373)
Nigerian Bottling Company N148,000 – N160,000 ($400)
Cadbury Nigeria Plc N130,000 ($347)
Frigoglass N50,000 ($133)
Nigerian Breweries Plc N350,000 ($933)
Lafarge N90,000 excluding allowances ($240)


Electrical/Electronics

General Electric N300,000+ ($800)
Huawei Technologies N200,000 ($533)
Tecno Mobile N120,000 ($320)
Ericsson N88,000 ($235)
EEDC Eastern Electric Distribution Company N350,000 ($933.3)
PHCN N79,000 (excluding bulk rent and pay leave allowance


Auditing and consulting

KPMG N171,000 b.t. (non-chartered ET)/ N145,000 (non-chartered ETOP) ($456)
PWC N140,000 (non chartered) ($373)
Deloitte N150,000 a.t. ($400)


Telecommunications

MTN Nigeria N180,000 – N250,000 ($667)
Globacom N120,000 ($320)
Airtel Nigeria N100,000?? ($267)
MainOne. N150,000 ($400)

Others

P&G N200,00+ ($533)
INEC N77,000 (including allowances) ($205)
PAL N77,000 ($205)
Multichoice N40,000 – N70,000 ($205)

Now tell me why there wont be recession in a country like this, where their expenses are largely driven by dollar exchange rate which has practically over-doubled between 2014 and 2017 (155 to $1, and now 375 to $1) and prices have been adjusted to reflect this, yet, most of my people's income can barely pay for their professional exams.lol. Vacation is dollar denominated, ACCA, CFA, CCNA, etc are dollar denominated, food items within the country are dollar denominated, transport fare- dollar denominated, fuel- dollar denominated, yet salary remain flat. We never see anything, 9ja wont get out of recession till 2019, take it or leave it, cos 2018 is political risk year, no investor will put their money down for anything, when purchasing power has been completely eroded.

i laugh at 9ja in spanish.

realborn:
A visionary and very proactive government.

Signed May 25, 2016, terminated May 22, 2017.

Enacting timely and promptly, the termination/determination clause on delays by the concessionaire.

If more public entities can be run like real business outfits without forgetting the mandatory social services, the results will be very far reaching. Today, Dubai launched a Robot Police Service. Soon, Lagos may lead a landmark development achievement in West Africa (at the least), at this pace.

Wishing Ambode and his team greater direction in the choice of a new suitable concessionaire.

You clearly don't understand what you're saying cos if you do,you'd know that no single individual can just wake up one day and terminate contracts. It's the height of illiteracy.There's always a dispute resolution process in every serious MOU and am certain a unilateral decision by some crazy politician is not part of it.

This is one of the key reasons Nigeria will suffer for long. Go and ask the politicians that cancelled MOUs like Lagos Ibadan expressway,Ajaokuta,etc. It simply brings up very long legal battles that the people will suffer for long before any meaningful work is started.

What was he looking at before signing?Am sure some powers that be are just not happy with the Concessionaire perhaps the kickback is not flowing to them as expected so they have to look for a "very willing concessionaire". I won't be surprised if Tinubu orchestrated this.Yeye country.

Some of us have said it before and will repeat it for the umpteenth time, Emefiele is not fit for the role of CBN for two reasons:

1) Emefiele is one of the biggest shareholders in Zenith Bank (with shares in billions of units), therefore, Emefiele will not open his korokoro eyes and allow his bank's profit to reduce, rather he will protect his interest till he dies, its common sense

2) Nigeria is at a time when CBN's policy must become super-friendly to small scale businesses (MSMEs) to drive wealth creation and reduce unemployment drastically, but we all know that Zenith Bank is not a bank for small businesses, Zenith is fully a Corporate/ Institutional Bank. Therefore, if you are going to be stupid to make a Bank M.D as the CBN Governor, you should be only a little stupid enough to know that Zenith Bank's MD is not the right person for the role.

Serious nations US appoint the Federal Reserve's Chair from outside the Banking Industry (Yellen Janet, the current Chair is an example, Bernanke the past Chair, is another), Mark Carney came from Canada to become the Governor of BoE-Bank of England, he didnt emerge from their banking industry.

Nigeria have Bismark Rewane, Henry Boyo, Pat Utomi, why not pick a genuinely patrotic Economic expert outside the confines of the Banks, with little to no major shareholdings in a Bank (just like Charles Soludo)

Again, it was deliberate by Nigerian Political Actors, to keep their looting spree safe and intact, just incase. #9jaisgoingnowhereIswear!

Some of us have said it before and will keep saying it for the umpteen time - Emefiele is not fit for the role of CBN. I gave two reasons few years ago:

What size is too big,what size is too small,op, m thinking its relative.whats small,too small,big,too big?Different babes will give different answers.

What is it with Nigeria and road projects?Since 1999,18 years and counting of democracy uninterrupted,Na so so bridge Dem de build,what happened to quality healthcare centers with modern equipment,what happened to IPPs for constant electricity,what happened to improving quality of schools across board.I know the answer though, like followers like leaders.They know what will sweep their followers off their feet.Don't get me wrong,am not saying they shouldn't construct roads and bridges but when are we going to move past this.

Handsomecutepie:
You are a fool like your fellow worthless kinsmen from your erosion ravaged region.

I guess your Kanu and JJ Okocha played for England before they become what they eventually became...

I also guess that all the foreign players(Nigerians living in diaspora with dual citizenship) in our National Basketball team and Nollywood were given chances in UK before being allowed in Nigeria to make their names

Just Bleep off Animals living in Zoo

You just displayed your animal kingdom traits...lol...who knows you may just be the gatekeeper of the zoo.lol.e de pain am.

You mentioned Kanu or JJ, and I still pity your orientation, if they got to where they got with little to no support from your fellow zoomates and zooheads,lol, you and your zooleaders should imagine where they'd have gotten to with full support.Just the last olympics says it all, zoogerian athletes were left to beg for funds to go display their talents, ordinary track-suit, your zoogerian leaders couldnt provide.One of the athletes later went on twitter saying she'd never represent zoogeria again,lol,i was just laffing,cos she never know jack.

As for you,i know you aint got any talent or skills to show the world, except displaying animalistic tendencies, so keep displaying ur skills here...yeye.

This is why i just laugh at younger ones that come to nairaland and be asking funny questions about whether they should travel to nurture their dreams or stay back in the zoo.Where's the comparison,dont let some animals deceive you,if you've got an admission to study over there for instance, please run for your dear life,your kids will thank you in future.

webincomeplus:
I know we'll soon start hearing shitty stories like this. By next week, we should also see headlines on how Joshua once hawked akara to make a living.

As for the assertion that he could have won the gold medal for Nigeria if given the chance, I disagree. Nigeria is known for working hard against the success of her citizens. And the fact that he wasn't given the chance is enough proof.

Here in our crappy country, a senator's nephew who can't knock out a pillow will be chosen over real boxing talents. And even if a real boxer is given the chance, the NBF will fail to release funds for his welfare and training tours because the foolish pot-bellied people in charge have stolen the funds meant for that.

Gbam,you know how this yeye country called zoogeria is, these people should just stop all these trying to link AJ's success to 9ja.People thrive in serene environments not animal kingdom like 9ja.

Una don start again with all these nonsense comparisons. Leave AJ alone please and stop comparing him to M.Ali. AJ is a born boxer and will become great (if not the greatest) in his own generation. Let him chart his own course and make name for himself please, like he is doing already. I dont understand all these crazy comparison of one sports person in a different generation to another. Was there anyone like Ali, or George Foreman or Iron Mike Tyson or Douglas or Lennox lewis or Evander or Klitschko? Certainly not! So leave AJ alone, and let AJ become AJ The Rock or whatever name he chose to be known as.

I noticed that nobody ever became like someone else, even with all the comparisons, even in soccer, you hear this one plays like this or that, and all types of crazy comparisons.

One thing I admire about about AJ is, he is very focused and won't be distracted by whatever comparisons some crazy people come up with, he knows there is no one like M.Ali and there can't be anyone like Ali. Same way, AJ is unique, and there will never be anyone like him!

OlanreJohnson:
If Joshua were in zoogeria he would have channel his great energy into owo mi da business. He would have probably been a thug to one idiotic politician in the zoo. HE WOULD NEVER HAD BEEN A WORLD CHAMPION.

THIS IS WHY BIAFRANS HAVE RIGHTLY ARGUED THAT THE ZOO MUST DISINTEGRATE SO THAT ODUDUWA CAN HAVE MORE PEOPLE LIKE THIS TO DO THEM PROUD.

ZOOGERIA IS A TALENT KILLER, IT HATES MERIT AND ENTHRONES MEDIOCRITY WHICH IT CALLS 'QUOTA SYSTEM'. JOSHUA'S MUM KNEW THIS AND ENSURED THAT HER SON WON'T BE INFECTED BY THE ZOOGERIAN VIRUS OF MEDIOCRITY.

JOSHUA'S VICTORY IS AN ARGUMENT AGAINST THE CONTINUED EXISTENCE OF THE TALENT-KILLING ZOO THAT HATES MERIT. WHY SOME AFONJAS DON'T EMBRACE THIS TRUTH AND CONTINUE TO ANTAGONIZE BIAFRA IS BEYOND ME.

You get sense my bro! You get foresight! Leave them, let them continue to deceive themselves, cos 9ja was even founded on deceit.

bruzrecordz:
Why am I not seen blood.. Two heavyweight fight and blood no cum out, that one Na fight.. Abeg next. Why am I not seen blood.. Two heavyweight fight and blood no cum out, that one Na fight.. Abeg next.

So you no see cut for Klitschko's left eye, after the heavy blow from AJ in round 5, he had to continue to stitch it till round 10. Although AJ too has a swollen left eye and a small cut. That was the best heavyweight bout in over a decade.

Trybes:
Well-done bro this guy should have been shining for Nigeria if not for the corruption in their heads.

He wont even be near that ring, if he had committed 'dream murder' in 2012 by representing 9ja.

oodua1stson:
same way Al pacino claimed Italian abi? I get your point though. Anthony Joshua is still very proud of his heritage but Britain offered him a better platform for his talent. He might still be a champion as a Nigerian ( no doubt) but I'll still accept him being successful and called British

If I hear, which champion as a Nigerian.lmao. Let Nigeria produce 1 single top boxer bred and groomed in 9ja, then I'd agree. The likes of Duncan Dokiwari, where did 9ja get him. That guy was a born fighter, he could have gone ahead to achieve greater things, but for the hell of a country he chose to stay with. He traded so called 'patriotism' for his greatness. Patriotism my foot, for country that doesn't send you.That's why 9ja will keep having brain-drain all across different sectors and the country will be left with riff-raffs and one day, they will all go to war and kill themselves.

OkparaEze:
Thanks for your input.
https://www.nairaland.com/3765702/nigerian-coach-denied-anthony-joshuas/

He must have been high on cheap drugs by then and God saved his ass, cos if he had come back to 9ja, 9ja will have finished his career. I bet you he wont be where he is today. Its part of why some of us say 9ja na dream killer, but those other nations are dream makers!

rightwingz:
Abeg comot environment matter for inside because i dey oyibo people land as i dey type so but still on Naija blood.

Smoking weed have nothing to do with career or future. Obama smoke igbo enter white house............. Obama daughter dey smoke igbo yet her future is more brighter than you.

Keep deceiving yasef.Sha turn ur igbo to money making venture sha, wherever u de, weda for ghetto in 9jahell, or ghetto for jamaica.

oodua1stson:
no, sir. His dad I'd half Nigerian half Irish




Thank you

Its alright, all of una, keep consoling yourselves and don't see the fact of the matter here that, 9ja has nothing to offer you in terms of developing your skills or talent.At least, AJ's family get sense not to relocate to 9ja, rather they took their beloved son back to Watford where he was born.Many top talents and dreams are walking the streets of 9ja, looking for what to even eat, talkless of nurturing their dreams.if you like continue to live on false hope that 9ja will be like the west soon, when your mates become your landlord in few years' time and continue to achieve their dreams, na then your eye go clear.Serene nations all the way.Even the few sport people that go through hell to train themselves to greatness (Francis Obikwelu, Blessing Okagbare, Bash Ali, etc), were never really promoted or supported as much, and some of them had to go represent other sensible nations.

rightwingz:
console myself for watin? i just dey use you dey while away time as i dey enjoy my igboo (weed)

You see now, if you were in serene environment now, you could have turned that igbo into some money making venture. AJ is going home with 15 million pounds tonight. Maybe it could have been you sef, but for ur yeye environment.

OkoNDOoBo:
why re u trying so sad to discredit the fact that his parents are re Nigerians but born in uk.


maybe u need to see the tatoo on his left arm

His dad is british oga.

awelekiti:
Wow! Anthony Joshua, Omo Yorùbá àtátà. It can always be Nigeria and others...Britons will definitely hijack this guy from us and call him their own cos he's done them proud. If the opposite happen, they'd say he's Nigerian, lol. Congrats bro

Oga its not like that.He has been fighting for UK since. He even won Olympics gold in 2012. You know there are functional systems over there to help anyone to greatness, what do you think AJ would have become if he was born and raised in 9ja?

rightwingz:
Did you see the tatto in his arm? He has map of Nigeria tatto in his body and you don't have anything to show you are Nigerian. He is more Nigerian than you.

Continue consoling yourself bro.

rightwingz:
the useless British and their press never mention Joshua as a Nigerian but if he was a criminal or terrorist they will call him a Nigerian.

Cos he is not Nigerian. He is a briton for goodness sakes. Let Nigeria produce its own heavyweight boxer and lets see whether he can achieve what AJ has achieved.yeye country.

ShySteady:
Finally a Nigerian has beaten Klitschko after he disgraced our own Calabar Samuel Peters.

But wait oo... What's with two English names for our boxers?

Oga, he is british, stop consoling yourself.

OkparaEze:
The slowpoke that rejected Joshua Anthony from representing Nigeria should be jailed. See how high British flag is flying

Oga, nobody rejected AJ, he chose to fight for his birth place UK.or what sort of training facilities do you even have in 9ja that you want him to use.

ipledge10:
Josua beat the beast... the victory is for Nigeria not UK

If I hear...which victory is for 9ja.Nigerians always quick to claim success stories. If I hear. If AJ grew up in 9ja, I can bet my life, he will either be pushing truck by now or at best, be a bus conductor. In essence, if not for the environment he grew up in around Watford, forget it. So, kudos to Watford, Uk, not Nigeria.Where are all your boxers, who grew up in 9ja? All of them have been taken to the cleaners.lol.Even in his victory speech, he didnt mention 9ja.(but trust 9ja, becos his mum is Nigerian and he tatooed his shoulder, they'd quickly claim it). Better find your way out of 9ja too, if you have big dreams,cos 9ja na dream killer,while nations like UK will help you nurture your dream.

Op,my dick is 8.5" in length and 5.8" in girth,but I used to feel it's small or average at best.
Also the babes have been with always enjoy it to the fullest and always orgasm within 10minutes because I put a lot of pre-intimacy and enter slowly at first and then gradually increase the pace and penetration till the babe asks for more length and it then enters fully with all the juice pouring out.
Try that.

thesicilian:
It continues to amaze me how much we focus on trivial issues in this country.

That was what our forefathers were also doing till they were colonized by serious minded nations. Today,those guys are discussing fuelless vehicles,driverless cars,renewable energy,etc.But we are discussing jollof rice,customs uniform,certificate,I swear,the west will forever colonize us.

kjhova:
It is a personal issue and is as personal as referring to Africans as monkeys or Jews as pigs. Suggesting that since I for one am sure not a monkey should make me the least bothered is out of the question.

That a country is poor is only a testimony to the environmental and not mental condition of its people. A once vibrant Syria is today downtrodden, does this mean the population's brain pool has dropped? Dubai grew phenomenally rich in 15 years from 1975 to 1990 but was a poor backward enclave for the previous hundred years. Did the national mental pool suddenly receive some pump up? Not at all. There are numerous external factors that determine national wealth and "average black brain" isn't the reason we have struggling countries in Africa. This idea, my friend, is acute self deprecation of a worst form.

The average black brain did not put Mobutu Sese Seko in power in Zaire for 3 decades to destroy the economy, no, it was the Belgian government and the CIA that planned the coupe and sustained him in power. Same for most of the demagogues that once held Africa down.

The African brain has not been proven in any scietifically appreciable way to differ from any other human brain on Earth in any way or form. Any suggestion to the contrary by an African is chronic self-hate.

All you have posted here are simply excuses for the black man's incompetence to put his house in order.Excuses,excuses everywhere.So after 57 years,it's external factors that made the black man not to be able to feed himself or it's external factors that made it so.It's external factors that make black politicians steal at least 50% of the state's funds,truly it's extreme factors not just external.When the black man wakes up from his slumber let me know.yeye leaders leading their fellow likeminded followers.