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The Christians on this thread are so salty they remind me of my ex's cooking.

wirinet:
The point is to teach young children that some people do not believe in Gods, spirits or heavens, so they grow up understanding and tolerating atheists. The idea is to stop children growing up to fear or demonize atheists or even think it is some kind of mental illness.

Till today many people in third world countries like Nigeria do not believe that some people can live without Gods.

Sounds like social engineering directed at kids. People should be allowed to come to their own conclusions as mature individuals. That's a very important principle to stand by, even when I disagree with those conclusions.

This edges too close to childhood indoctrination for my liking. I the adult and young adult population finally begins to accept atheism, (which is happening slowly but surely) there would be no need to teach kids about it.

And what would be the point of this? Religious education focuses on the theological and historical aspects of religion. Atheism has no compiled texts, so I don't see the academic merit in bringing it into schools.

owoshuyi:
are worms and eels reptiles?

Ever heard of the slow worm?

Educate yourself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anguis_fragilis

nellyelitz:
The OP is madd and he should also be stoned. tunda fire that ur black forehead. a decendant of a paedophile and dirty bearded terror4st.

Wait, OP is a descendant of Mohammed?

festwiz:
Then, they will be banned for "prayer abuse" or "high levels of the word of god detected in their system".

Lol.

Performance enhancing gods.

Communism is cancer.

DoctorAlien:
If your argument is that the majority of scientists subscribe to the theory of evolution, and that they mock those who don't believe in evolution with them, then perhaps no one may dispute that. But evolution is no more supported by "evidence" than is creationism. In fact, scientists on both sides of the issue observe the same data, but interpret the data differently to support their preconceived worldviews. Put concisely, both evolutionists and creationists constantly see "evidence" for their theories in the same things.

You can argue that no evidence can discredit evolution: that may be because evolutionists are ready to adjust and readjust their theories so that their model will accommodate any observed phenomenon.

I really think your problem here is with the entire scientific method because modification of your hypothesis is a routine step in all fields of scientific research. The fact is that no form of the theory of creationism that tries to exclude evolution stands up to scrutiny. It's as simple as that.

DoctorAlien:
When it comes to some controversial topics like evolution vs creationism, I don't agree that Wikipedia is unbiased. The opposite is in fact the case: they are totally biased against creationism. How can anyone called them unbiased when they constantly misrepresent, shun, suppress, omit and dismiss without any convincing reasons the arguments of creationists against those of evolution? On the other hand, they promote and force down the throats of everyone the largely unverified stories of evolution. This may make more meaning to you if you realise that the whole thing is a battle of worldviews: Naturalism (the unfounded and unverifiable idea that everything arose out of natural processes without divine intervention) versus Creationism.

The No True Scotsman fallacy which a Wikipedia editor committed, as pointed out by the OP, speaks volumes on the issue of whether Wikipedia is biased or not.

I can agree with you that Wikipedia is biased against creationism in terms of misrepresenting creationist arguments, given their track record which I'm all too familiar with. What I disagree with is you treating evolution vs creationism like it is a controversial issue in the science community.

Evolution by natural selection is a very strong theory with a great deal of biological, geological, and even mathematical evidence (through mathematical modelling). Creationism - at least the type that tries to discredit evolution - would probably get you laughed out of the room and with good reason.

There is no evidence and no good argument out there that discredits evolution theory. Creationism can be paired up with evolution just fine, not all scientists are atheists. You can believe in God without trying to deny evolution.

Although creationism is not the hill you want to die on, this post is right to point out Wikipedia's left wing bias.

Take any politically divisive topic and Wikipedia will overwhelmingly favour the leftist position by omitting damning information and posting dubious points about the right. They also push politically correct, feminist rhetoric as much as possible.

Take for a example, the Wikipedia entry for Sarah Jeong, an Asian American journalist who was recently employed by the New York Times. This woman has tweets calling white people 'goblins' and stuff like 'cancel the white race'. When people found out about this the NYT didn't fire her but rather defended her. Anyway, when people tried to edit her wikipedia entry to make mention of the tweets, wikipedia locked the article from editing. Why? To protect a leftist journalist.

Furthermore, I've been on top nerd culture for a while now so I'm quite familiar with the term 'GamerGate', I want everyone who is skeptical of what I'm saying to check out the Wikipedia entry on GamerGate and compare it to that of KnowYourMeme and Encyclopedia Dramatica just to get a view of how they subtly twist the narrative.

That said, when it comes to scientific topics Wikipedia is relatively unbiased, this doesn't mean it is a very factual source, though. It may be okay for getting general information but it's better to seek other sources for deeper study.

emekaRaj:
I have answered ur question, this one is unnecessary the risk is mine, and I will gladly die worshiping the almighty, he gave us life and to him we will returned. let's not even go into discussin how to coexist in a diverse society bcoz that will be a long discussion. if u tune to Islam channel on Friday on dstv, u will see that this also happens in Britain one of the most organized society and they even have police protecting them. every religion has one way or the other that they also cause discomfort

Look, if you want to die for your religious beliefs, more power to you - I see that as natural selection. My problem is knowingly involving others. It is completely unacceptable to expect people to fall in line because for a religion that they didn't sign up for. See what Muslims did to that female evangelist not too long ago.

It's funny that you brought up Britain, a place where police refused to investigate Muslim child rape gangs because they didn't want to be accused of racism. Of all the good qualities we could emulate from Britain, should it really be the preferential treatment of Muslims that we should imbibe?

emekaRaj:
I hope this answers ur question. I believe with positive mind u would have been able to reason on ur own that this is d obvious reasons why Muslim causes traffic

By praying on the road you are actively jeopardizing your safety and that of the people around you, is that how to coexist in a diverse society?

urahara:
That's wrong.


The best anime now is one piece

Steins ; Gate is my favourite anime.

pleasureosondu:
Ask Edo people, then you'll get practical answers @ op.

Edo dude here, it's pure horseshiite.

I can avoid sexual immorality without even trying, it seems.

Where is this temptation that you guys speak of?

johnydon22:
Morality today doesn't really have a general human consensus. it is more so, localized. Gay marriage is still morally abhorrable in Africa and not in America

Sure, every culture would have its own nuances because we are in different environments but doesn't mean that the dominant one wouldn't eventually infect others, it took about a century before most civilized nations started allowing women to vote.

As long as we consume their media, their ideas would slowly infect our culture. Hell, even happened to me; the same media that made me question my views on religion also made question my views on lgbt rights. I'm sure twenty years from now the conversation on this topic will be very different. And this isn't wishful thinking, I've personally witnessed the discussion on religion change steadily over the past five years.

I think 'good' is determined by general human consensus. That explains the different moral zeitgeists that we can observe throughout history. What is seen as normal today may be seen as deeply offensive in the future or vice versa. As society continues to advance and face new moral challenges it would adapt and morality would evolve.

There is no such thing as a soul or spirit. Consciousness is a function of the brain. There is zero evidence supporting the assertion that the soul exists.

johnydon22:
These two scenarios present similar circumstances only distance is the difference.

Curious how our morality wanes with distance?

I think evo-psych really comes into play here, the mind is wired to prioritize an emotional response to what is readily in front of us. So yes, while my logical mind may understand that these circumstances are similar, there is no way I would see a child drowning and not try to help.

johnydon22:
Aren't the two actions and result for 2a and 2b the same?

How come you choose differently?

Notice something about the two circumstances? The first seems like a spur of the moment decision which involves collateral damage, the second seems calculated.

In the first, both decisions seem reasonably moral, saving five and killing one in the process seems justifiable. Likewise, freezing up because you can't bring yourself to kill someone is also justifiable regardless of the outcome.

Now the second case, you see a fat man and push him down to stop the train is actively killing one to save five, he is not collateral damage. It isn't a spur of the moment decision because you have to be reasonably sure his weight can stop the train, it is cold, calculated murder.

Despite the similar outcomes, the second one requires you to actively override your emotions to make that decision.

1a. The man is morally obligated to save the child since he'll only lose his suit and no damage would be done to him.

1b. The man isn't morally obligated to take care of a foreign child's problems. The society should have systems in place to avoid casualties from treatable illness, you cannot save everyone.

2a. I would probably redirect the train to the side where one man is working. Although, I won't fault anyone for whatever decision he/she makes.

2b. I wouldn't push the fat man into the track. Can't really put my reason into words, but it just seems more... homicidal, maybe?

johnydon22:
No it doesn't. If being chauvinistic about your race means hating the other, then i'm sure thats not the definition of chauvinism.



Being chauvinistic about your tribe or race doesn't mean thinking you're superior to others.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with thinking your mom's soup is the best.

But it leads to it.

Imagine being a white nationalist in Nazi Germany back in the 1930s. You believe that the aryan (pure white) race is the greatest and must remain pure by not interbreeding with others.

Suddenly, evidence against that belief starts to show. Jews are statistically better off than whites on average. Because it is deeply ingrained in you that Aryans are the master race. The Jews must be cheating in some way, not only that, they must be the root cause of failure in the ranks of the Aryans. These filthy Jews must deserve some form of punishment...

I think we all know the rest of that story.

Anyway, my point is that irrational beliefs invariably lead to irrational actions and that is inherently dangerous in the long run.

johnydon22:
Being racially or tribally chauvinistic isn't the problem though.

Hate - yes.

Chauvinism as regards your race or tribe - expected and not misplaced

Doesn't chauvinism eventually lead to hate, though?

I believe that overtly dogmatic adherence to any ideology or the notion of superiority due to an immutable quality is incredibly dangerous and would almost always lead to hate - I mean bigotry isn't formed in a vacuum.

In my university, we had this youngish female lecturer who kept making suggestive remarks to male students. I was probably the only guy who saw it as a problem.

Seems like guys are so thirsty for female attention they'll basically worship any bleached land-whale who tries to flirt with them.

hopefulLandlord:
How do you do that though? since religious beliefs affect us all whether directly or indirectly

The DGAF mentality, and stoicism allow me to emotionally detach myself from other people's opinions. I think the way I want and act how I want.

hopefulLandlord:
I'm starting to become an atitheist and it feels kinda weird

I'm drifting towards the 'I don't care enough to talk about it' mindset.

Nigga, get a job.

Iykelinus:
Today, we take a look at a somewhat controversial topic among gamers – PC versus console gaming. While both platforms most definitely offer their own set of strengths and weaknesses for video gaming, I personally believe that PC gaming is far superior to console gaming for a multitude of reasons.

Why do you ask? Below you will find a list of 10 reasons why pc gaming is better than console gaming that highlight why I believe you will have a much better gaming experience if you elect to go with a PC or a gaming laptop for your game system compared to any of the leading consoles that are currently available on the market. But before we look at these reasons, let’s examine a little more closely consoles and the debate the currently rages among gamers.

Consoles Aren’t All Bad
One thing this post is not is a let’s bash console gaming post. On the contrary, I believe consoles can offer up something unique to the gaming world as well and I own consoles myself. Still, PC gaming can provide you with some of the best gaming experiences you will have simply because of the many benefits using a PC for gaming can provide. Whether it is your controls, your ability to play old games or the flexibility the modding community can provide, you will find something to love about PC gaming no matter who you are.

Still, consoles all provide a great way to enjoy your games and today’s modern consoles have come a long way from the early days to provide a compelling user experience along with a host of other media tools to make them all in one entertainment devices, not just console gaming machines.

Never Ending Debate
I don’t expect that the reasons I give today to be some magic bullet that will end the debate once and for all. The fact is both PC’s and consoles provide a unique user experience and they are all great gaming devices. Heck, I own every console there is as well. Still I find that I always go back and spend more of my game time on PC games than I do on my consoles. But I wouldn’t want to do without my consoles altogether.

Remember, before you get mad at me for this post and sound off in the comments, there is room for all the different types of gaming systems in this world and room for everyone who thinks that consoles are better as well. Still, it is my belief that overall PC’s can provide you with the best gaming experience and provide you with the tools to enjoy your video games much more compared to the console systems.

I don’t expect that the reasons I give today to be some magic bullet that will end the debate once and for all. The fact is both PC’s and consoles provide a unique user experience and they are all great gaming devices. Heck, I own every console there is as well. Still I find that I always go back and spend more of my game time on PC games than I do on my consoles. But I wouldn’t want to do without my consoles altogether.


10 Reasons PC Gaming Is Just…Better

Let’s take a quick look at 10 reasons PC gaming is better than console gaming so you can begin to see the advantages of using a PC as your gaming rig instead of one of the leading consoles that are currently on the market.

1. Better Controller Support
There is nothing better for controlling video games than a traditional PC and a mouse. If you want to add a gamepad or other controlling device, all you have to do is plug one in. Still, you can play all your games using your keyboard and mouse giving you some of the most accurate controls available when compared to the analog sticks found on gamepads today. To be fair, most of the console makers have begun releasing keyboards and mice for their games, but the compatibility with the console games is hit and miss at best. If you want the best control over your characters in game, you will want to use a PC. In the end, you simply can’t go wrong with the simple, yet flexible and powerful controls offered by a good gaming keyboard and mouse.

2. Higher Resolution Capabilities

While Xbox and Sony do, in fact, have Full HD gaming today and many of the games on the consoles do look quite impressive, PC’s have had this ability for quite some time now. The software has taken awhile to catch up to the hardware capabilities but it has been there for years. This just underscores how much more flexible and powerful PC gaming hardware can be and, if used correctly, can deliver a much more engaging experience for users pushing some of the best graphics and audio that you will find in a game today.

3. Upgradeable Hardware

One of the biggest advantages that PC’s have is the ability to upgrade the hardware without having to buy a brand new machine every time your computer can’t handle the latest game to be released. Admittedly, if you are gaming on a laptop, you are somewhat more limited, but even still you have the ability to make a few upgrades here and there to improve your gaming experience. On consoles, however, you are locked into a set of hardware specs that will be used for years. This means that as gaming development evolves, they will be limited by the hardware since console manufacturers only release new hardware every few years.

4. Multiple Online Services

One of the best parts of using a PC for gaming is the freedom that comes with it. On consoles, you are locked into using the online services they provide, and in the case of Xbox Live, that comes with an added cost. On a PC, you are free to roam the Internet and find the best online services you can for the games you enjoy. Often these are available completely for free and often provide a better user experience overall. Of course, the best part is, if you don’t like one community, you can just go somewhere else, instead of being stuck in one single community like you are on your favorite consoles.

5. More Storage Space

On the Xbox and the PS4, games are restricted to the size of the discs that they use and are often forced to download extras onto the relatively small hard drives that are included with the consoles. This limits your gaming potential as well as how many games you can store. Hard Drives on most PC’s these days have gotten huge, giving you the ability to store as many games and saved files as you want. If you run out of space, you can always add a bigger drive or a secondary drive as well, giving you almost limitless potential for how many games you have in your collection.

6. Classic Gaming

There is nothing better than firing up an old game that was made almost 20 years ago and reliving some of your past gaming experiences. For younger gamers, it can provide valuable insight into how games were made and how they have evolved over time as well. It is also just plain fun. Consoles, however, limit your ability to do this unless you want to keep the older consoles connected as well. Of course, some console makers such as Nintendo have recognized this demand and have begun releasing their older games on their newer consoles, but these come with an additional cost. Often you can find old games for PC available for free and you can even download the tools to run them on modern machines at no charge as well, making classic gaming a much easier and cheaper experience compared to the consoles.

7. Free Mods
Hands down one my favorite aspects of PC gaming is the ability to mod the games to alter the gameplay in some form or fashion. Whether it is adding in a host of new items, altering the graphics, or even adding additional levels to play through, the modding community has been hard at work altering games for decades now creating unique gameplay objectives that were not even considered by the original developer teams. This gives you hours upon hours of added playtime to a game meaning you get a lot more for your money compared to a console game. On console games, you are locked into what the developers want you to do. While some games have added some basic modding abilities on the consoles, they are nothing when compared to what designers and developers can do with the code on the PC. If you enjoy modding your games, PC gaming is the way you need to go.

8. Cheaper Games

Expensive licensing fees and added development time to ensure that the game performs well on each specific console often drives up the cost of console games. Even older used games often seem more expensive compared to the PC alternatives. Admittedly, this isn’t always the case, and sometimes you will get sticker shock when checking out the latest new game that is available. But, in general, your gaming budget will be much more wallet friendly if you game on a PC.

9. Unofficial Fixes for Games

Let’s face it, not all games are released exactly how we wanted them. Often times the game developers never get around to fixing that one thing that you wish was different about the game. Enter again the modding community. On older PC games, modders have often taken the time to patch and fix the games themselves so they run and perform better and sometimes they even squash some of the most annoying bugs that crop up during game play. You won’t find these kinds of options on console games, as you simply don’t have the ability to make mods and fixes yourself all that easily.

10. Easy Migration of Games

Time to get a new rig? No problem. Simply back up your saved game files and reinstall the game on your new machine. Once you finish you can pick up right where you left off in your favorite game. That doesn’t always work out so well on consoles. In some cases, older games for previous consoles simply won’t work at all forcing you to keep that one connected to your television if you still want to play that one game you have yet to finish.

11. Piracy

12. Triggering console gamers when I run their favourite games on emulator software.

winner01:
In other words you have no proof of atheists questioning atheism
Why then have you been meandering

Every agnostic atheist is proof. I just have you proof. You're the one trying to reclassify it.

vaxx:
coolusername

He's a gnostic atheist. In my posts on this thread I've been speaking on agnostic atheism.

Butterflyleo:
An agnostic is not necessarily an atheist. An agnostic is simply a skeptic. What they say is that "they don't know if God exists but they are sure Yahweh does not exist". Such a foolish comment.

Atheists obviously lean more towards the 'I don't believe' side. But they (except the gnostic atheists), still maintain some level of skepticism regarding their beliefs.

winner01:
"I do not know" is not Questioning atheism.

Show me examples of atheists questioning atheism.

This is you just being dishonest. Atheism is the lack of belief in God. If an atheist can assert that he doesn't know for certain that God doesn't exist then he must have at least pondered the question.

winner01:
I know what agnostic atheism is.


Give me an example of atheists questioning atheism. Give me proof.

That you call yourself something is not enough reason to believe if you don't act the part.

From the article,

In 1885 Robert G. Ingersoll, popularly known as "The Great Agnostic", explained his comparative view of agnosticism and atheism as follows: The Agnostic is an Atheist. The Atheist is an Agnostic. The Agnostic says, ‘I do not know, but I do not believe there is any God.’ The Atheist says the same.

Don't atheists on this forum frequently express similar views?