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MaxInDHouse:
He is blinded by the meaningless tag given to him by his white supremacists "ATHEISTS"

So to him those claiming atheists are the only people who don't believe in God.

How thoughtless they are!

The word BELIEVE connotes TRUST so if there are motorists willfully breaking traffic rules in their cities is there any clue that such ones BELIEVE in CCTV cameras?

brocab:
This is why we are here, to share each others opinions, It will be a change to see and read you preaching the Word of God.
Now, we are not interested in the Jehovah witnesses sermon, we are more focused upon the Word of God, so anytime you feel like preaching God's Word, we are here to read your views.
So if you expect us to listen: speak bible knowledge, so we can all relate together understanding God's Word.

MaxInDHouse:
Well it's the work of Jesus' brothers who taught us, if you open your mind wide to their teachings your comments will be filled with words of wisdom even better than Maximus.
God morning my brother!

MaxInDHouse:
Adam can't say God doesn't exist but he wants no one to tell him how to deal with others so an atheist may claim he believes in God yet he will never agree to subject himself under the same rule. That's what Satan meant when he told Eve:

"You will be like God, knowing good and bad" Genesis 3:5

All atheists are seriously interested in politics because they want to dictate for others but they're not ready to bear the same burden that they lay on others! Luke 11:46

So they feel really bad seeing people humbly and heartily subjecting themselves to the same line of thought {John 17:22 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10} they wonder how they could catch such ones to obey them but since that's not possible they speak abusively {1Peter 4:4} of the faith producing such fine FRUIT! Matthew 7:16-18
God morning my SB!

brocab:
No one is reasoning cornelboy: I Just believed someone needs to call out the facts, since you hide behind these suckers, someone might as well speak out some truth among the brotherhood.

Kobojunkie:
1. Stop lying! There is no mention of the Holy Spirit in the entire context of that conversation Jesus Christ had with Nicodemus in John 3 vs 1 - 21 so why do you keep dragging His mention into what it means to be born-again?

2. In the context of the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ made clear that ALL must be born-again in order to be considered saved.

3. This statement does not make any sense at all. If the context is the Kingdom of God as Phillips preached to them, then clearly the people mentioned had to be born-again meaning they were born of water and born of spirit. No exemptions were allowed by Jesus Christ in John 3 vs 1 - 21 making it clearly impossible to be born-again without being both born of water and born of spirit..

4. What John and Peter came much later to do to them had nothing to do with the act of being born again. Again, note the fact that the Holy Spirit is not mentioned as being a part of the born-again process by Jesus Christ in John 3 vs 1 - 21.

Aemmyjah:
The world jumped into existence by chance

Saidfx:
Please let's read with an open and unbiased mind
1. He is not the God
2. He is not a part of the Trinity. (Islam utterly and unequivocally rejects the doctrine of the Trinity.)
3. He is a prophet
4. He is one of the most important prophets
5. He came to warn about the overly legalistic understanding of the religion by the Jews
6. He is the Word of the God (the relevant verses: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him" and "We breathed into her (body) Our Spirit
7. He is born of Virgin Mary, who is considered the most holy woman among the mankind.
8. He was a carpenter or handyman
8b. He performed miracles (speaking as an infant, making a clay bird come alive, healing the blind and the lepers, etc.)
9. He was betrayed by one of his disciples
10. He was sentenced to death for his alleged crimes
11. He was not crucified in actuality. It was made to appear that he was crucified.
11b. He did not die (in the usual sense). Thus, he did not atone for our sins.
11c. There are also alternative exegeses of the related verses in the Quran about Jesus’ death, for they are open to different interpretations.
12. He was raised up to a heavenly realm
12b. He was not resurrected, because he did not die. However, he was raised up
13. He is still alive in some sense in that heavenly realm
14. He was/is the (promised) messiah
14b. He did not consider himself divine in the commonly understood sense, nor did his disciples.
14c. Early Christian theology (when Christianity movement is headed by James) and Islamic theology are more in common. Islam rejects the Pauline affirmations.
15. He will return back from the heavenly realm to ours at the end times
16. There will a fierce competition between the believers and the non-believers. In this struggle, non-believers, headed by the anti-Christ (Masih ad-Dajjal), will make significant headway initially. However, Mahdi, supported and strengthened by Jesus, will defeat the non-believers in this struggle.
17. Having been on the same side in the above struggle, Muslims and Christians will unite and have friendly relations. Good times will follow briefly on Earth before the end.
18. Jesus will correct the errors in current Christian understandings of him or his nature. Christianity will become similar to Islam. Both will unite in the sentence "There is no God but The God"
19. Jesus will die naturally (in his second coming), just like any other prophet of the God.
Thank you

brocab:
But JW's always claim the bible is to hard for them to understand, its easier for them to twist bible verses they themselves don't understand.
In stead they give out Watchtower booklets using some type of information that really doesn't have anything to do with God.
[John 8:44} gives us a prefect description how these people operate.
It's not Christ like..

brocab:
Jehovah was written in the KJV when the Watchtower had printed the KJV back in the day, the word “Jehovah” is included seven times in the King James Bible. “Jehovah” appears in the books of Genesis, Judges and Psalms once, while it appears twice each in Isaiah and Exodus..
So it's not worth you lying about the fact Jehovah was added by the Jehovah Witnesses...
The most obvious proof that Jehovah's Witnesses spell YHWH wrong as "Jehovah" is the fact that the letter "J" doesn't even exist in Hebrew, Greek, Latin. Further, the English language did not have a letter "J" before about 1500 AD.
For example, the very first edition of the KJV printed in 1611 AD, contained no "J". Not even one! Instead the letter "I" is used for Jew, Jesus, Joshua, Joanna, John AND the person pronoun "I". Instead these words were written in 1611 AD as, Iew, Iesus, Ioshua, Ioanna, Iohn.
In a stunning admission, Jehovah's witnesses tell us that the reason they continue to use "Jehovah" instead of the correct spelling Yahweh, is to be pleasing to man, not God.
One of the first things that JW new converts learn from their cultic Watchtower organization, is the lie that all Bibles are corrupt because they remove the Tetragrammaton from the Old Testament.
Most Jehovah's Witnesses are so dismally mis-informed about the matter that they have no idea how to even find the Tetragrammaton in the original Hebrew text of the Old Testament, much less even heard the term "Tetragrammaton".
What most JW's don't know is that they are the one's who are truly guilty of adding to the word of God because the New World Translation (the JW sectarian paraphrase they call a Bible), actually adds the word "Jehovah" in the New Testament 237 times where it is never found.
So the hard cold fact is that the New World Translation adds "Jehovah" into the New Testament 237 times, where there is absolutely no ancient manuscript evidence of any kind to support it.
The Watchtower teaching of a Hebrew original of Matthew that used YHWH, surely trashes the Bible and destroys any confidence in the New Testament.
If Jehovah's Witnesses can argue that YHWH was deleted from the Bible, then what else was deleted that we don't know about?
Perhaps the word trinity was also used in {Matthew 28:18-19} but it too was deleted!
A lost Hebrew Matthew that used YHWH contradicts Jesus Statement that scripture cannot be broken (John 10:35) and that the word of God is both incorruptible and imperishable. (1 Peter 1:23-25) For JW's to affirm that YHWH was once in the Bible, but deleted, is quite different from alternate readings.
This is because there is absolutely no evidence in any Bible manuscript that YHWH was used ANYWHERE in the New Testament, much less Matthew.
For YHWH to have been in the original, but 100% removed without any trace, destroys all credibility in the reliability of the entire Bible itself. Of course, Christians know that JW's add YHWH into their NWT strictly for theological reasons, but in doing so, trash the Bible!
The only scholars who JW's can quote as believing in a Hebrew Matthew, are themselves Bible trashers and modernists who entirely deny the inspiration of the Bible.
No scholar who views the Bible as the unalterable and inspired word of God will ever believe in a Hebrew Matthew original.
So the Watchtower organization is "in bed with" those who try to ultimately destroy anyone's faith in the Bible.
But the Watchtower has a long history of doing just this. For example, in the "Should you believe in the Trinity" booklet, JW's reference several "scholars" who come right out and say, "Trinity was a pagan origin doctrine".
But what the "door to door class" of Jehovah's Witnesses doesn't know, is that all the scholars who say trinity is pagan in that booklet are themselves Bible trashers who reject the virgin birth and the resurrection of Christ and the inspiration of the Bible.
So as we will see, the JW charge that the Bibles that Christian commonly use, removes the divine name from the Old Testament is false.
We accept that Hebrew was the language of the Jewish Synagogue in the first century.
This fact, however only strengthens the fact that God did not want Christians to continue using YHWH since none of the 27 New Testament books ever used it.
Jehovah's Witnesses would have us believe that YHWH was removed 100% from the New Testament, but never removed once from the Old Testament manuscripts.
The truth is that JW's are guilty of adding the Divine name into the New Testament where it is never found.
The expression, "Jehovah's Witnesses" did not exist prior to it becoming a kind of corporate trademark name of the salesmen of the Watchtower book selling company after 1930 AD. For 2000 years the followers of Christ have called themselves "Christians", never "Yahweh's" or "Jehovah's Witnesses,"

brocab:
Neither is the name Jehovah written in other bibles-so obviously this is not scriptural either, it's a false doctrine. So now you found out more truth..

ThoughtOfYou:

God hasn't forsaken Nigeria

FERNANDEZISBACK:
Well..you can only sell blah blah blah in a metaphorical sense...
In the real world..souls/afterlife nonsense and devils don’t exist..they’re nothing more than imaginary concepts arising from ancient religious beliefs at a time long before there was any scientific knowledge of the world and how it works...
The problem is that religions teach Dumbos as if they really exist mainly because they use the concepts as part of their mechanism of power and control over people’s thoughts and lives to gain and retain them as faithful followers... The soul is supposed to take people who’ve died to an afterlife - an equally imaginary concept..but an extremely powerful and compelling one in psychological terms to vast numbers of people - and the imaginary devil is supposed to look after the imaginary hell..something used to frighten people who haven’t obeyed the dogma of the religion concerned back to being faithful...
There’s absolutely zero evidence to support either the concept of a soul or a devil (or a heaven or an afterlife) and a vast amount of evidence to show that the concepts are entirely man-made.
The idea of selling your soul is nothing but pure superstition...

Prosper1912:
Which one be born again?
Jesus said: “Unless anyone is born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God.” (John 3:3) So being born again prepares a person to rule with Christ in God’s Kingdom. This Kingdom rules from heaven, so the Bible describes the “new birth” as providing an inheritance that is “reserved in the heavens.” (1 Peter 1:​3, 4) Those who are born again are given the conviction that they will “rule together as kings” with Christ.​—2 Timothy 2:​12; 2 Corinthians 1:​21, 22.
When Jesus discussed the subject, he said that those born again would be “born from water and spirit.” (John 3:5) This expression refers to baptism in water followed by baptism with holy spirit.​—Acts 1:5; 2:​1-4.
Jesus was the first person to be born again. He was baptized in the Jordan River, after which God anointed (or, baptized) him with holy spirit. Jesus was thus born again by holy spirit as a son of God with the hope of returning to life in heaven. (Mark 1:​9-​11) God fulfilled this hope by resurrecting Jesus as a spirit creature.​—Acts 13:33.
Others who are born again are also baptized in water before they receive the holy spirit. a (Acts 2:​38, 41) They then have the sure hope of life in heaven, which God will fulfill in the resurrection.​—1 Corinthians 15:42-​49.
So the question now is that
A PERSON Must Be Born Again To Gain SALVATION OR TO BE A CHRISTIAN?
Christ’s sacrifice provides salvation not only for those who are born again as the ones who will rule with Christ in heaven but also for the earthly subjects of God’s Kingdom. (1 John 2:​1, 2; Revelation 5:​9, 10) That second group of Christians have the opportunity to live forever in Paradise on earth.​—Psalm 37:29; Matthew 6:​9, 10; Revelation 21:​1-5.
So the question now is that
CAN A PERSON CAN CHOOSE TO BE BORN AGAIN?
The opportunity to have a relationship with God and gain salvation is open to all. (1 Timothy 2:​3, 4; James 4: However, God chooses those who will be born again, or anointed with holy spirit. According to the Bible, being born again “depends, not on a person’s desire or on his effort, but on God.” (Romans 9:​16) The expression “born again” can also be rendered “born from above,” confirming that the selection of those who are born again comes “from above,” or from God.​—John 3:3, footnote.
a One exception was the case of Cornelius and those with him.​—Acts 10:44-48.

OgaNightmare:
[/b]Jehovah and Jesus are of course same in nature. They are both spirit beings.
The angels too are spirit beings.
But still, Jehovah is still superior to all the angels including Jesus. And Jesus is greater and superior to all other angels.[b]

Brooo, spirit is BEING not NATURE.
CHRIST alone possess the nature of the Father
Mek I charge phone come back, I'll deal with this

oteneaaron:
Hehehehehehe

OgaNightmare:
Is the woman inferior to the man in nature?
Both man and woman are equal in nature both being human.
The Trinity argues that Christ is of the same nature with the father that is why they are said to be co-equal in nature.
[/b]How can someone be higher in position to another person and the latter is not inferior to person in higher position?[b]
Is the president of the nation higher than you in position of authority?
Is he more human than you, do you both not share the same things that is common to humanity?
Are both of you not mortals?
Awawa

oteneaaron:
Lol
So you even have 3?
Funny guy.

advocatejare:

All of you are the same, when did I promise you that if you tell me your denomination that I will you tell you mine?

oteneaaron:
So Janosky is also using multiple accounts on Nairaland?
MaxInDHouse has 3 accounts.
Janosky has 2 accounts.
Cornelboy has 2 accounts too.
What an interesting trend.

IslamVIRGINS:
Ain't you satisfy with what you pasted here?

IslamVIRGINS:
Are the same herbalists we're seeing here caught with different human parts for money ritual not specialized in using herbs too right? You're as lost, confused and full of ignorant like the other guy I mentioned above

achorladey:
It is yours I am showing you. I am not forcing you to accept it

MaxInDHouse:
ARE YOU BORN AGAINST?
ARE YOU BAMTAIS WITH HOLY GHOST?
You can't understand if you're not!

brocab:
But had you noticed-God the Father did not call the disciples God-like He did Jesus. I believe, it's because Jesus was without sin, when in fact we are sinners.
This is what the bible say's: {1 John 5:7} For there are three who bear witness in Heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are "One.
Now I ask you; do you believe it? when Jesus says: I am in the Father and the Father is in Me, the works I do, are the works from My Father,
The word Trinity is not actually written in the bible-but trinity is used as the meaning to the three becoming One, One soul, One mind and One heart working together in unity.
It's like, in most bible's the name Jehovah is not mentioned, God the Father is" Does that mean because His name is not written in all bibles, then obviously the name Jehovah is un-scriptural, Jehovah is used by the Watchtower 'so they can recognize a name that was given to God, so does it mean it's trash as well?
Tell me, how can you call yourself a JW when in fact you don't believe you are one in body with the Watchtower preaching there doctrine. I would call that, one spirit in unity-equal with each other, preaching the same message.
Now we know No has seen God at any time: because God is Spirit-so how did Jesus do His work without His Father working in unity with Him,
I tell you how? The Father's Spirit is and always is, in Jesus, ''One body and One Spirit are One

OgaNightmare:
The Trinity afffirms that the Father is greater than the son in terms of position and at same time the Son is not inferior to the Father.
The Spirit proceeds from both Father and Son.
So where's the trash now Funnelboy

achorladey:
Fuss meaning
I am not creating a fuss about it. I am pointing your mode of operations here whether it is normal or not is not my problem.

ANTIlSLAM:
Next time don't argue blindly here I take God beg you

ANTIlSLAM:
Surrender yourself for learning sogbo

achorladey:
Since you decided to pick the part that dance to your tune. When the same person post things that goes the other way. Na unreasonable or mad or apostates or atheist una go call sharperly
We sabi una mode of operation

brocab:
you are denying everything concerning, I am in the Father and the Father is in Me. you refuse to even acknowledge it exist..