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Xisnin:
What is wrong with having advocacy groups for a crime which is only wrong in certain circumstance(consensual sex is legal)?
How does having advocacy groups necessitate the need for special revenge laws on alleged false accusers?
The advocacy group are actually a good thing as their campaign will likley prevent some rapes that could
have occurred due to ignorance about consent.

There are advocacy groups for domestic violence and child abuse.
There are advocacy groups for animal rights.
There are more advocacy groups, hashtags and others against racism and being accused in certain jurisdictions
could result in financial ruin and becoming social pariah.
But I am yet to see many people asking for special criminal laws to punish false accusers.
What is obtained is civil suits for damages in case of mistakes.


These myths have been debunked already.
Men are as emotional women.
It is the expressions that differ because men tend to bottle up emotion due to socialization and explode later
while women respond quicker. They also tend to overexpress "strong" emotion such as rage.
In fact, if we factor out emotions from the violent crime committed by men,
we will have a lot less prison population.

The extant and historical facts that men mostly lead every movement that requires bending people's will
negates your assertion. Cult groups, political movements, and organizations
requiring ultimate sacrifice have mostly being led by men who are supposedly not
able to make people emotional while the alleged masters play second fiddle.

Perhaps you mean some people feel more sympathy for victims of rape?
So what?
Some people feel more sympathy for kid victims of abuse than adult victims but this is largely
because they consider kids weaker than their abuser thus needing more support. This same principle
is applied in the case of rape more so among those who believe women to be weaker.


Can you list such cases that occur in Nigeria?


Why shouldn't it have happened?
What is so special about rape that 100% of the convictions have to be correct, a number that is
statistically improbable for every other crime?

People get convicted wrongly all the time for various reasons even when there is another
suspect. Some innocent people even get executed. Did you imagine that all those behind bars are guilty?




This is preposterous.
Women don't control the courts, judges do.
Perhaps, you should try and visit a police station or get court records to understand the
Nigerian justice system treatment of rape cases.
Very few cases actually get to court.
Usually due to lack of evidence, family and community pressure, outright bribery of poor parents, and intimidation.
Many of those that get to court get dragged, dismissed due to incompetent prosecutors and other reasons.

From 1973 to 2015, only about 65 people were convicted in Nigeria.
If you are right, we would expect those firebrand women to have been forcing the courts to jail suspect en masse, but no evidence
of such. The so-called emotional women activists are either useless or non-existent.
Rape cases in Nigeria almost never result in a conviction, exceptions been those perpetrated by pedophiles or gangs.

Even in the so-called women-friendly American courts, an average man(racism aside) is more likely to be convicted for assault than rape
because of the higher informal evidence threshold. It is even more challenging in the UK which requires judges to use their own personal
experience to determine case validity giving a further advantage to suspect in cases with terse evidence.


There is also a myth that women blindly support women's goals.
But this is demonstrably false from history and some research has shown that more educated men
supports certain women's issues more than women themselves.


I am yet to see it.


For me, rape should only be emotional for the victims and their families.
For society, it should be about justice and prevention.

you're a very funny guy
you just basically agreed with me by describing my expression, "women are more emotional" in another form , and giving reasons for why it is true.
basically, i dont know about men exploding later after bottling emotions, men have to take charge of the situations when women are being emotional, someone has to see reason and behave rationally- thats what you call bottling up emotions.
women are the reason men bottle emotions because someone has to handle the situation when they are being emotional.
for the part of men exploding later, it doesnt always happen
even if it happens everytime, agreeing with you for argument's sake sha.
if a man bottles up his emotions in 5 situations and unloads them on the 6th situation
he has still handled 5 situations unemotionally
unlike the female that explodes/overreacts regularly.
its jst a situation of the decline of common sense actually, its funny and its very sad at the same time
there are women who are stronger than men, and there are women who are shorter than men, jst like there are men who live longer than women
but it should be obvious to anyone whose common sense hasnt been educated away, that on the average,
Men are physically stronger than women
men are taller than women
women live longer than men
jsut like there are men that are more emotional or as emotional as women
but that doesnt change the reality that on the average women are more emotional than men
your argument about why, whether by indoctrination,socialization is academic
how can you sneakily disagree with a point and then give reasons why it may be so?
evwn if i continue from your own explanation, what will be the outcome?
if men are socialized to be unemotional and women are allowed to be emotional and expressive, in reality who is going to end up being emotional?
who is going to be more skilled at something? someone groomed, trained from childhood or someone jst left alone??
go figure that out!
men are also more agressive, more violent , more disaggreable than women, the reason why they make up majority of the prison population not to mention the justice system bias for women when it comes to sentencing
because there are exceptions doesnt invalidate these points.

Xisnin:
First, you failed to define what "false accusation" means to you when it comes to rape issues.

Technically, false accusation can be established only in few situations such as having other witnesses(which is unlikely), the accuser change their story, or their is a record of the encounter e.g videos and chats.

If an accuser knows that changing their story will land them in jail, they will never do it. They will stick to their gun and the accused will suffer

Note, a suspect being discharged for lack of evidence is not the same as a "false allegation.

Also, false allegation is not a crime in other cases.
Accuse someone of being a thief, murderer and kidnapper and the worst that happens is a civil suit followed by fines but no jail terms.
We cannot change the principle of law just to accommodate a different crime.

To quote a legal opinion:

"In criminal defamation, the law seeks to prevent a situation in which defamation assumes a tendency to arouse angry passion, provoke revenge and set the society ablaze in a way that public peace is endangered."

In other words, unless your "false allegation" case can actually set the society ablaze, it is entirely a civil matter.

Stop inviting or sleeping with random strangers and if you must, document everything.
What about those accused by people they know?
Well, life is full of risks, by mere participation we agree to the unknown risks.

Also, avoid asymmetric relationships where you hold all the powers, some people who feel oppressed can choose to fight dirty. Someone with healthy self-esteem is unlikely to use underhanded tactics.
Bad things do happen to good people and this isn't particularly a revelation to any adult. Some people get lynched for walking at the wrong time. Of course, we can stop the lynchings but we can't stop the allegations.

Having said this, "false allegations" will be a very small percentage as it takes high level of psychopathy to maintain
the consistent lie to inflict pain.

In the Nigerian context, rape is one of the easiest crimes to get away with because it is very difficult to get evidence for a conviction. So the overwhelming majority of the few successful prosecutions are those between strangers, minors and those based on self-confessions.

And to the women out there, stay safe, and avoid risky encounters.

You sound intelligent, thats why I will reply you.
you said its like every crime like armed robbery and murder or what not.
you are very wrong!
lemme tell you why
do you have murder victims' rights advocates on twitter everyday shouting about what their victims went through
do you have pple tweeting or posting 'Teach our young boys not to rob or murder!!'
or hastag 'say no to armed robbery'!
Do you have organized associations or pressure groups specifically for armed robbery victims or any other crime for that matter
women are highly emotional and not only that
they have the power to make other people emotional too
there are many cases of convictions of rape being overturned because one other person confessed.
something that should never have happened
how were they convicted in the first instance??
women will never allow rape cases to be tried in court objectively, they will always asume guilt , therby putting pressure on society and the judicial system to punish someone
they dont really care if an innocent person is punished, as long as someone is punished!!
any person accused of rape is guilty in their own eyes!
I think all these should be pretty obvious by now
but what do i know??
to be fair though, rape is a highly emotional issue, apparently even men can throw reason out of the door and embrace the urge to just find someone to punish or make excuses for such behaviour.

deebrain:
Even though her way of expressing it might have reservations (innocently), your girlfriend is DEFINITELY a wonderful personality.

Wow.

She apparently cares for your mum like the way any of your siblings will care for her wellbeing.

Don't use the fact that her opinions that might be weird to you, understandably, as justification to end your relationship.

She is a good person. Don't blow it.

i am actually suprised no one has seen this too,
the girl is thinking ahead , she doesnt want your mum to have time for her if you guys get married
so this marriage thing is to distract your mum from you and by extension her(your possible future wife
this your babe and your mum will definitely have problems in the future
think about that too!

DanseMacabre:
Me ah no just fit shout. See better bar wey men like me dey control.


Hushekuke bleeped up big time tho. Dude should have gone legit a long time ago.

U still have the same fraudster mentality, will going legit later suddenly erase all his past deeds and records?
did you read the article at all?

arthorjnr:
Someone having a different opinion doesn't make him immature. People still believe in soul mates and in his mum's case, she married her soulmate and she lost him. He's still there with her in her heart. She obviously doesn't want anyone else to touch her or try and play that role. I mean even if she's lonely, she must have friends...

But I also understand people remarrying tho. Anyone that's dead is dead.

i wonder o
immature! can you imagine??!
romanoff, you are very mature o,
Mr mature

ogbeni, when you guys get married, if you travel for too long, i can assure you, you will meet another man on top of her in your matrimonial bed.
even your children , you wont be sure if you fathered them
U beta start looking for another option now
with what you said, i m sure she has other options too
save yourself from committing murder in the future now!
you don dey sabi your babe be that

Righteousness89:
Condolences to His Family!

Mr. Ajimobi is gone forever..

He is gone to give Account of his acts on Earth..

I just hope somehow, somewhere, somebody listened to us and led him to JESUS Christ like we kept announcing..

Like we always say, There is no big deal in death! As no one really dies! We only switch to the main part if life. The Forever and Ever realm

The Koko of the Matter is Who did you Accept and Believe before you left..

With JESUS, it is Sweet! Gracious !Glorious !Joyous! Heavenly!

Without JESUS is unfortunate! So Unfortunate!

May God Help us the Living to understand these things..

how will you come and type this rubbish here, fellow cheistian brothers and sisters pls, let us be sensible in our evangelism
may your foolushness not lead you to an early grave

Klass99:
This blame game started in the garden of Eden na! when the earth was less complicated and populated.

I don't see how that's going to change now, that the earth is more populated and complicated.

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So you want the bible to lie that it wasnt eve that got seduced by the devil and and gave adam apple.
Is it our fault that's what happened

in this life, just fear women, they have the power to make the most educated person emotional, animalistic and stupid

AhoadaRivers:
Many of them are rapists themselves.
Castration is well in order. It will make many think twice.

For ladies who rape men, sealing up their vaginas surgically is also apt punishment.

look at a very educated person for god's sake

DominusPrime:
They don't o my brother. Deep down they know their brothers and fathers are not rapists. Infact when they calm down and you ask them they admit they aren't. But right now they will say such things as a means to calm frustration. Imagine how mad men walk the streets shouting at no one in particular. We usually ignore. But make the mistake of asking one why he is shouting, na then wahala go start for you wey ask. Let's learn to live above such statements as men and not let it get to us. The strength of most women is in talking and arguing. The best answer most times is silence.

There is danger in what you are saying
Its not feasible right now
Perception is reality , words affect perception.
Most times now , the person with the best PR wins
Thats how by feminism came to be so powerful,
By shouting at everything, and the men then kept quiet thinking they were being manly!

[quote author=DominusPrime post=90215783]They don't o my brother. Deep down they know their brothers and fathers are not rapists. Infact when they calm down and you ask them they admit they aren't. But right now they will say such things as a means to calm frustration. Imagine how mad men walk the streets shouting at no one in particular. We usually ignore. But make the mistake of asking one why he is shouting, na then wahala go start for you wey ask. Let's learn to live above such statements as men and not let it get to us. The strength of most women is in talking and arguing. The best answer most times is silence. [/quote
There is danger in what you are saying
Its not feasible right now
Perception is reality , words affect perception.
Most times now , the person with the best PR wins
Thats how by feminism came to be so powerful,
By shouting at everything, and the men then kept quiet thinking they were being manly!

Na small tin
Me that my 4 wives are waiting for me
Wetin concern me
The thing that burst my head is the man no even sure of himself, he had to go and contract his whole family to catch the woman together.
He already knew if he was the only one, the woman no go even send. The woman no fear am, no even fear the whole husband family.
It starts from calling family to settle fight sha.
If you cant talk sense into her brain by yourself now, bro beta dont marry her.
What will this guy's family think of him??

You obviosly dont know what you are doing, shes forming love for you and you sef dey chop.
Wetin concern family for who you meet wey neva reach 6 months
Shes jst looking for sponsor for University degree
U sef dey naive

bukatyne:
Hahahahahahaha!

This problem actually doesn't exist in polygamy.

Exactly
Who has time

Nigeria is not a rich country, we like deceiving ourselves
Compare new york city budget for this year and the population and Nigeria's budget and population this year .
The little we have we are mismanaging.
Those who have faith and hope in this country are simply insane!

dederocs:
It doesn't apply here, thanks...we are looking for ways to avert destructive wars, like world wars, of course there will always be conflicts, but large scale conflicts and world wars can be averted.

Rotfwl

dederocs:
Most times people get what they wish for...I think the best way of averting world war 3, is stopping the creation of warfare weaponry, when nations have these weapons, they will want to use it, this causes escalation, and rapid destruction. There should be a ban on heavy weapons production, this is the sure way.

Have you heard this quote; if you want peace, prepare for war
Let that sink in

Fountainofyouth:
Of course you will only attract your kind, and I sure as hell will get married real soon, take your negativity outta here.

Then its not hard to see divorce within 3 years
M not an alfa o but somethings you can see from a mile away

Dont you have a mum
Y are u doing ur mom's job

Fountainofyouth:
Finally I've drawn out why you have a backward mindset and warped thinking, you are a Muslim, no wonder you see women as second fiddle, so women in the western world standing up for themselves hurts you real bad right? Clap for yourself,

So in your stupid thinking, Muslims don't divorce right? You are so clueless and uncouth I doubt you went to school, keep your backwardness to your self and type, rubbish.

Hehehe
Its paining you
I will have 4 of you in my house
And you will obviously die alone

Fountainofyouth:
Pls buzz off, you're going in circles and still saying rubbish, comparing your wife with employees is stupidity in itself, how would someone says he loves someone enough to marry her, then decides that because she is a house wife, she isn't entitled to half? she took care of your kids, you, fvcked you constantly, things go awry, she doesn't deserve half but should be compensated? and the sacrifices she made by staying at home is nothing?rubbish.

And @bolded, why the fvck will you think fvcking her husband constantly means selling their bodies just to get compensated in the end? I am honestly trying not say my piece of mind to the mistake that is you, nonsense.

Ur generation is a mistake obviously.
It
Its really funny how you all cant see the logical somersault you are performing

You said she contributed to the business, you siad housekeeping is a serious job and its not easy, someone even said housekeeping is a full time job that she was employed as a full time housewife or housekeeper, the point being it is a JOB, how can you then get angry for comparing her to an employee doing a JOB.
And trying to negotiate proper pay.

You are all being emotional
And it wont work,
Your only weapon is emotional blackmail

Someone even compared her to a prostitute
By implying fucking her husband for 27 years is not easy and she should be paid for that too
Maybe we should conduct surveys how much they charge per night now and do the calculations, lol
And future wives should include their nightly fees on their marriage documents too to avoid any confusions in the future.lol
You should stop being silly, and look at issues objectively.

Fountainofyouth:
You find it baffling that your wife who stayed at home to take care of the kids, cook for you and made the home front livable, has the temerity to ask for half? You are a disgrace to manhood, do not ever get married and if you are, sorry for your wife, she obviously isn't worth nothing to you.

So you are comparing your wife to an employee? Her sacrifice of being a housewife is not work right? God forbid bad thing for some men these days.

Ladies, shine your eyes when you want to get married so that you won't settle for men like this one, make sure you are working before you get married, and after getting married, do not quit your job to satisfy any useless man, they will burn you when they feel like and see you as nothing, enough said.

You also being foolish and emotional
Emotions dont win cases in a court
How much is the salary of a housekeeper or maid.
Nonsense
Her real problem is the 2nd wife
Since they are very educated and proud now, they cant deal with a second wife or any rival for that matter
I am a full fledged muslim man, and by Allah's grace will have my full 4 wives
And i will treat them with respect and care, if Allah wills that i am rich.
Even poor guys here have many wives and everything is in order.
My wives will be lucky to have me and we will all be happy.
No need to divorce anyone like you infidels do and encourage others to do!

Men should thank God for islam and polygamy here otherwise these women would taken over everthing jst the way they did in America with their emotional logic and guilt tripping and shaming tactics

Fountainofyouth:
You find it baffling that your wife who stayed at home to take care of the kids, cook for you and made the home front livable, has the temerity to ask for half? You are a disgrace to manhood, do not ever get married and if you are, sorry for your wife, she obviously isn't worth nothing to you.

So you are comparing your wife to an employee? Her sacrifice of being a housewife is not work right? God forbid bad thing for some men these days.

Ladies, shine your eyes when you want to get married so that you won't settle for men like this one, make sure you are working before you get married, and after getting married, do not quit your job to satisfy any useless man, they will burn you when they feel like and see you as nothing, enough said.

You lots are very funny,
When someone said the wife is a disgrace to womanhood for asking what she stands to gain from the assets of the man after divorce and thinking like a common worker
It wasnt a valid criticism then
Its like seeing a marriage as a commercial transaction now, so thinking along that line with her and trying to determine the correct amount of compensation like any other employee is not a crime and criticism of that too is invalid
Since this is purely business, we should remove any pretensions of love, or family or any sentiments like that
So when you calm down you will see your critique is actually very emotional and unobjective(i dont want to say stupid)
Afterall pple even go as far as making pre-nuptial agreements
And i didnt say shes not entitled to any compensation, dont misunderstand me
But to say half is disgusting and unfair to actual employees who actually worked for the husband during said time.
You actually promote the disrespectful impression that some men have about women and marriage that they are all prostitutes that wives are selling their bodies and time to their husbands in the name of marriage for compensation after divorce
Or that marriage is simply a woman selling her body to the highest bidder .
Very sad indeed
Thats what civilization has led us to...

midnighter:
She may not own "half" outright, but she still contributed to your success, right?

The reason they say "half" is to codify her overall contribution to your development and not to suggest that she directly impacted your daily business decisions.

Yeah
Maybe we disagree on the degree of contribution
If the time spent in the marriage is long
And she is entirely helpless finacially
Then shes entitled to some income from me or assets
To say half is jst insulting and unfair to millions of actual workers all over the world

doggedfighter:
Very neuseating mentality.

I find it very baffling, really baffling how a woman who stayed at home taking care of children while i was building my business would after the business succeeds have the temerity to tell me she owns half
If i had hired a maid all those time, maybe she would say she is entitled to half of my business too. Its jst very funny
In any case Nigeria doesnt recognise that western mentality
Because for instance, the man could have 3 wives
So all the wives would claim half.
There is nothing like 3 wives in America.
U better advice your mum, you guys could actually lose everything.
If i have an actual employee that works with me for those years to build the business for say say 30 years, its only my responsibility to compensate him accordingly or promote him so that his position and salary will be very high.
do you know i could sack anytime jst like an ployee that started work last year
And he cant dare approach any court to say he is entiltled to half of my property.
The idea jst sounds very stupid to me.
Anyway
Your mum is jst pained cos she has a rival, ur dad should have gotten a second wife earlier not now
And you, okay you are a girl, no wonder, if it was a guy that really had a lot of influence of his father, you would jst advice your dad to be fair to his 2 wives.
And still make your mum feel like the senior wife with special privileges.
And appealing to your mum to calm down and not take things up to level of divorce.
Cos the court will see she is jst jealous and there is no real cause
You even said they did traditional marriage
I am sorry for you.
You should be playing peacemaker
Again, you may lose out on everything in the end

onecoder:
Ole is an idiot for that comment.
RVP spent 2years and carried united on his back. The fans still reminisce his time here meanwhile ole spent 10yrs and can't be said of same.
Was only lucky to be at united at that period.

Ole was never a starter, always on the bench, he jst won more trophies withthe team

I am interested in knowing about this o
All this Ican stress , hope its worth it??

BRATISLAVA:
I just knew my instincts were right. You see all the men that cry foul? They're usually lying. They're pushing some male agenda. Nobody asked for the woman's side, they all began to tell him to leave.

I told him that his wife was not a bad person and that he had other issues with her that he was refusing to disclose. I told him that he was hallucinating everything which he denied. He even accused me of sounding like his wife. Lol


That MGTOW red pill acolyte that goes to any thread with men to condemn women had better retrace his steps because he and all male OPs are liars. Today we had a dose of the truth behind every emasculation.

From what the wife said, i gather she said she never emasculated him, how does that come in again in your last sentence.
U have issues yourself, its like seeing men being emasculated makes you wet or happy
U gotta see someone now

MariaAngeles:
Does this comment even make sense to you ?
Where is your empathy ? Life is not a competition of males vs females .
The earlier you realize that and be objective in your judgment, the better for you .

Apparentlye feminists decided long ago it is a competition between male and female. That aside, i dont know what you mean by objective.
Examining an issue from multiple angles and not accepting one sided narratives is the defintion of objectivity
Except that has changed
My uncles wife actually infected him with Hiv before confessing.
Sharing something as personal as that for the benefit of many people is what you are castigating me for now.
May God punish you first and then forgive you later

Riele:
Interesting !

I pointed out something and the only reply your pooped filled brain could think of was to slut shame .

It's a new year , flush out the coconut water in your head and maybe leave it empty , so next time , Instead of you typing trash , you ignore ! .

I pointed out something from my own experience , something that happened to my own uncle too due to his LovePeddler wife and all your semen filled brain could say is thats not the point
Its a new year, empty all the semen you've swallowed and maybe your brain will start working again
And stop whoring too, save your unfortunate future husband from Aids!!!

Next time take your own advice too