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Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 9:21pm On Dec 14, 2017
tdayof:
The truth is the country works in a way we can't predict. I just hope we get something valuable with the funds.
Exactly so we hope. Nigeria's defence budget is opaque. Has always been.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1:
barineh:
Just saw this on TV. They better don't waste this opportunity.
My confidence this time is that the present federal administration is fiscally responsible and objective. Disbursement from the top may be clear but the EFCC should put an eye on things down the line. We should still do our civic duty at least through the National Assembly even if somethings will remain be classified.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 9:09pm On Dec 14, 2017
ssaengine:
You want to start a war? grin
And besides, I don't think any non Nigerian can really comment on Nigeria's defence budget. This thread looks forward to pics and bids of whatever new stuff is purchased.
I like this! Coming from you grin Well seriously you are one of the objective minds on this space—betimes grin Expressly looking forward.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 7:57pm On Dec 14, 2017
Hot News: Nigeria has just approved another 1 billion dollars for weapons acquisitions.

The cash is at hand and to be withdrawn immediately as approved by the NEC from the ECA which has over 2 billion dollars in the throve. The NDF stands at over 7 billion NGN. The NRF stands at over 100 billion NGN. The foreign reserve stands at about 40 billion dollars. This purchase is only to be drawn from the ECA.

Where are those questioning our alternative source of funding for matters of National Security. This is not budget spending. When the Giant decides to rise just hide.


Expect the soon arrival of penciled down hard assets for the Navy, Air Force and the Army.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 7:47pm On Dec 14, 2017
jteku:
Lt Rejoice is the first airborne qualified female army regular office in Nigeria's history.
NAF' first female fighter pilot on high performance jets currently training with the USAF. Arguably black Africa's first. Any nays bring proof of qualification on what fighter jet.

Whatever, NAF congratulations! What a feat! On the whole Nigeria's Armed Forces currently makes proud with the pace of capacity and capability building.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1:
tdayof:
There's a similar base that was almost overran by bokoharam in NE. The video has been posted on Bidexii thread before where those guys claimed BHT sneaked into their base at night almost causing them to fire at each other since you can't recognize the enemy easily again.

Fortunately, there was no life lost on the part of our own guys but a soldier was shot on his leg. Base intact.


To me, lack of situational awareness and response. All I can deduce is these guys of ours have been in that battlefield for long and know how to respond but the Tz guys might have seen just little action.


Other conditions applies too.
Of course many factors are in play in frontline deployment but certain factors are laws of military engagement not to be discarded whatsoever like perimeter defences which provides for situational awareness to absorb the initial shock of contact. Op guys and scout patrol/RECCE is a creed given that is a static FOB tasked with direct intervention—those guys were on virtual hostile territory warranting robust presence. Remember these Tanzanians are supposedly the combatants providing cover for the Southies deployed on peacekeeping duties and if they performed so poorly the ADF would be heard from again and it won't be good news that I can tell you.

In the case of our boys that was more a mobile outpost manned by a company of soldiers which sprung up all over remote northeast areas infested with marauding BH terrorists most scavenging for food and on chance preying on defenceless villagers. Soon Bokos found out they could massively attack those outposts manned by few soldiers to overwhelm them with hundreds of rampaging drugged islamafascists who come to die but training and experience gave the soldiers the advantage in most engagements and in situations when the troops came under effective fire and realized they'd be over-run they employed evasive tactics for reinforcements ultimately decimating the enemy in counter-assault operations. Interesting as you note is the minimal number of fatal losses in our engagements proof of better and advanced training coupled with better kitting and communication.

Fact is the guys down there are still learning. The planning and execution was simply amateurish.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 11:15pm On Dec 13, 2017
kikuyu1:
You're right-WTF was I thinking even responding!?
Exactly so. I don't respond to warped thinking.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 11:11pm On Dec 13, 2017
tdayof:
Base doesn't look secure. Mortar/RPG etc from rebels will make you disorganized at first before looking out for what to shoot.
Well you summed it all up. Perimeter defences were non-existent making the base occupants canon folders for enemy fire. Appalling! A clear case of ineptitude going on down there. Testament of poor training. In honor of the KIA I won't use the word Amateurs.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 2:13am On Dec 13, 2017
Donian007:
This is great! Long overdue.
Yea, at last developed as a result of lessons learned especially with our CT/COIN wars -- the dynamics of the terror war against BH would have been much different had it been existent then -- Army combat pilots are very effective below the radar quick kill CAS assets when embedded with tactical ground elements but also versatile in conventional warfare in taking out enemy armour, tanks, artillery, logistics, drones, trenches, foxholes, SF etcetera. Another holistic capability acquired by the Nigerian Military non-existent in contemporary African armies. The goal is to achieve and sustain the ability for decisive victory with minimal losses in both local and expeditionary campaigns by the Nigerian Army and maintain our edge over others this side of the street on the globe.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 8:59pm On Dec 12, 2017
Nigerian Army Aviation Corps qualifies first set of Combat Pilots after two years of intensive training. Ten young officers currently inducted.
Pic: Nigerian Air Force Fighter Pilots

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 4:40am On Dec 07, 2017
The Gambia Invasion: ECOWAS Troops Coming In From The Border.

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1:
SitRep: Major General Rogers Nicholas (Pic) replaces Major General Ibrahim Attahiru as Theatre Commander of all Combat Forces in the North-East with immediate effect by order of the C-in-C President Muhammadu Buhari.

Note: Good one Mr. President. I have since questioned the competence of the outgoing commander of Op LAFIYA DOLE since he took over from the excellent Major General Lucky Irabor. Whilst he had and showed zest he wasn't innovative enough, lacking the grit of command necessary for effect, leading to an emboldened BH terrorists that had all been wiped out. Not unusual, when the competence of commanders are called into question just change them and not dither. In the ECOMOG wars Major General Timothy Shelpidi was the glaring example of the consequences of an incompetent commander.

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 4:17pm On Nov 26, 2017
iblawi:
Everyone is talking of buying while South Africa is talking of sell. The difference is clear.
Declining Power...The DA will need to come into power to save the situation from free fall. Zuma and his ANC has weakened the once important country. How I Long For The Days of The SADF.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 4:51am On Nov 25, 2017
Adminisher:
It is not accurate to judge good radar by range alone and to shallowly extend the idea that aircraft nose cone size is directly proportional to range of detection. Half of the work is in signal processing and optimization of resources between scanning, tracking and aiming. And yes Sudan is not getting top of the line stuff.
Point made.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 8:14pm On Nov 24, 2017
SupremeCourt:
I see your point. No wonder Iran refused to buy Russian t-90 tanks, they prefer made in Iran tanks that are same level as modernized t-72. Iran also refused to buy downgraded su-30 from Russia, they say it's either the best su-30SM version or su-35, or else no deal. Iran says they are tired of inferior weapons that super powers dump on 3rd world nations, and Iran also wants full local maintenance capability for su-30 or else they will not buy jets that will make them always depend on foreign technical support in time of war and embargo.

With all these points you people are raising here, maybe Sudan will end up with downgraded su-35 that will not be able to beat NAF jf-17 block iiii that has AESA radar, but sha, there is no plan for NAF to buy air refueling, the NAF boys said it costs extra $50 million for air refuelling planes and no need to refuel in air against Boko Haram.
Point.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 8:13pm On Nov 24, 2017
Adminisher:
My friend, JF17 versions NAF will own would have MIG 29 type engines, refuelling capability and a radar at par/ better than SU 35. Getting to Sudan is refuelling over Maiduguri and meeting the aircraft's on the way back.

There are so many factors to capability that you should not be shallow or mechanistic in thinking. Gadhaffi's Libya and Saddam's Iraq were examples of countries with loads of hardware and low capability. Iran, UAE, Nigeria and Jordan are examples of countries starting to emphasize acquisition of holistic capabilities instead of mindless buying of weapons that makes you prey to scams from developed countries.
Apt.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 9:46am On Nov 24, 2017
overhypedsteve:
what you keep thinking is that Nigeria is the only country investing on skilled hands, what you keep thinking is that all this your big big grammar is not available to Sudanese defense planners. The mistake you keep making my dear brother, is that somebody smart enough to invest on its defense industry to even start exporting sophisticated military technology outside its borders is not thinking ten steps ahead of the theives and Looters that swam the ship house abuja.
You are right we won't be surprised but what you guys keep failing to tell me is: what will you do if he silhouettes of Sudanese jets graces our night sky in Nigeria? What will you do? That's all I am asking. And you keep telling me you will see it coming, which of course would give you enough time to intercept if you have anything to intercept it with. Believe you me this corrupt Nigerian politicians will send innocent airmen to their death by asking them to ride against the Migs in those old rusty F7s and a lot of good men will die, and when the politicians see that we have nothing to defend ourselves with against this attack they will start flying out of the country. Governors,ministers, commissioners and heads of services will jet out of the country. If you think a rich politician that stole the money for defending Nigeria will die with you in that same Nigeria you are deceiving yourself. In a real situation a formation of Sudanese jets headed for the capital city of any Nigerian country is enough to create a Banana Republic in Nigeria. This cowards politicians didn't plan to die for Nigeria, they will fly out and leave us at the time that we want them the most. Your mistake is thinking that people that were irrational before a war would become rational when it starts. Dude weep when you can for NIgeria.
Last I checked your Sudanese formations didn't stop the creation of S. Sudan nor did it stop any of the numerous rebel groups. Were that the case I'll take you seriously. If they couldn't make a difference in their country with all those technology and jets u mention then they can't pull off anything in Chad (which they tried but couldn't for years) not to talk of Nigeria. Sudan has no capacity to wedge a full scale war not even against S.Sudan. It's president is in Russia right now begging for help. It is a poor country. Stop the joke pls.

Dude, Sudan is in no shape or form able to do what you're saying. Nigerian politicians may be stealing (not good) but will never abandon their oil for you. They will go to the ends of the earth to get the tool necessary to make any aggressor regret it's actions assuming they dare.

Sudanese jets are scrappy jets even if they are mig-29s. Our F-7s are more modern than what they have and flown by better trained pilots with more combat time in the air. It is not having jets but having an Air Force that can conduct the full spectrum of Air Warfare. And in this area stretching up to Sudan only Nigeria actually has an Air Force. It is not Sudan that will be attacking Nigeria it is the other way round. Ask the experts.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 1:15am On Nov 24, 2017
SupremeCourt:
NAF defends itself with only f-7 till jf-17 arrival 2018. I think NAF put eyes on cheap $50 million mig-29M2 that Egypt got this year, but now if Sudan news of su-35 is true, NAF will worry about 3,000KM range stealthy jet armed Sudan just 1,000KM away from Nigeria, it can flyover Chad, enter Nigeria, do damage, go back with same fuel tank. I think NAF may change choice from mig-29M2 to the stealthy mig-35 to checkmate a nearby country posing with su-35. Only mig-35 can stop su-35 in Africa apart from Rafale. I hope arms race is not starting, Senegal's navy is negotiating for small fast attack ships with antiship missiles in our Gulf of Guinea, Senegal has found $2 billion gas field offshore and wants to build muscle to guard their golden water. Nobody wants to be pushed robbed like mumu nowadays.
Saudi Arabia is up to no good especially in these parts with Senegal and others. It will come home to haunt that young prince whose now in trouble with everybody at home, in the region and now Germany. Europeans never forget. The days of that monarchy might just be numbered.

True, NAF is in the hunt for Air Superiority Aircrafts and advanced fighter trainers. The Flankers were the dream now ostensibly is the Migs. Dunno what the defense minister saw or was told by the vendors. On paper they are perhaps the most deadly Russia has to offer but it has not been proven in combat like the flankers. As I've said I smell corruption in the wings. Still with the geo-political provocations we need long range fighters for valuable options to the commander-in-chief.


The JF-17s are just Wow! And when they come in they'd be a great nemesis to all enemies foreign and domestic. Already the PAK Air Chief says the JF-17 Thunder excel the F-16 in three dimensions. So can't wait for Nigeria's first three examples set to arrive.

The Roland SAMs are mobile which is one advantage. However obsolete compared to more modern systems they are effective and deadly. The current Air-defense batteries are radar guided. However the stand-off option of modern fighters is why the S-400 is a necessity for us. Still the argument is we don't have a threat of that magnitude.

Those taking in big ticket items paid for by others will have to maintain them. Then we will see whose boss. Nigeria should just keep an eye on things and do the needful.

And as sure as you are reading this, in warfare someone always does a damage. We can't fight a nation and not expect to get hit one way or another but what's important is that we determine how it ends.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 12:48am On Nov 24, 2017
overhypedsteve:
that's true. Many unexpected things happen bro. Like Russia or America refusing to sell you emergency air to air missile or a platform to mount it. Like Sudan upgrading one of its cargo plane to an aerial refueling platform and entering West African airspace to carpet bomb Abuja or everything that we hold dear in the south. Please tell me one single way that you will deter this sort of aggression and tell me how the unexpected will ever favor us in this kind of war. Two flankers are heading to Abuja, what will you do? You ve seen them, you know they are coming what will you do? That is what I asked you to tell me not all this stories of the unexpected. People are arming their country you think they don't know big English like you, or you think people in other part of the world that are defending their nation have not seen the word "unexpected" in a dictionary before?

Even if Sudan was to fill a civilian cargo plane with barrel bomb and fly it into Nigerian airspace escorted by its flankers armed with Air-Air missiles we still won't be able to drop the cargo plane before the barrels start rolling
Biko let's not take the joke too far. This is the Sudan rag-tag Chadian rebels got to Khartoum before they could muster any sort of defense. They threw barrel bombs from planes for years yet couldn't defeat the SPLA or numerous Sudanese armed groups. Warfare is not simplistic like you make it seem because someone buys shiny toys. Saudi Arabia is on the back foot with Houthi's rebels. Sudan is in no shape or form able to prosecute a war against Nigeria. There's a reason why Nigeria invests heavily in the 5th dimension of warfare to be heads and above everyone in Africa including those flying Rafales.

You don't go to war with only one arm of the military. But let's say Air warfare against Sudan with current capabilities. NAF elements and by that I mean the full spectrum of it's eyes in the sky from satellites to it's configured AWAC system to TRACON that can see beyond Chad and Cameroon will detect, see and track whatever the Sudanese put up there and link data with it's assets in the air and on the ground for alternate angle of kill position before they know what hit them.

More importantly we will detect and see whatever is on ground before it takes off assuming it does take off because we don't spend millions of dollars on some of the best fighting units on earth for nothing and that's the kind of job they love to do. Initiative is the first principle in the art of warfare. When air power loses it's element of surprise it's over.

NAF's large pool of dedicated and highly skilled combat pilots, technicians, engineers, planners etc is the most critical factor in the equation something missing in Sudan to a large degree.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 12:23am On Nov 24, 2017
SupremeCourt:
That Taharqa999 guy is high on Sudan brewed ogogoro, most of his data are fake from Wikipedia that people manipulated. Google Sudan on IMF or World Bank database. Sudan is cash broke to the grave, $ 50 billion foreign debt, $ 200 million forex reserve like poor Eritrea. Sudan poverty rate at 50% of population, industrialization at 2% of GDP, the rest is mostly cattle and corn. Since South Sudan broke free from them, no oil to put in the oil refinery they built, so they must envy Nigeria swimming in 200 billion barrels of crude oil, bitumen, condensate and gas combined. His 35 mig-29 is actually only 13 second hand mig-29 on global aviation records. The su-35 jets we are told they got is likely the new loan from Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. Flying sukhoi flanker jets while drinking gari and groundnut. Their navy has been brain dead since Somali pirates reduced them to level below Ijaw speed boat militants. Their skinny army is doing mercenary errand boy for Gulf Arab states in Yemen in exchange for more cash loans to survive. When Nigerian army commandos raid their Sudan air force bases capture the place, their su-35 will land in the hands of SBS and AFSF and surrender. They will regret borrowing money to buy air superiority with a dead navy and mercenary army. Maybe we should leave the guy alone and avoid his impending derailment of the thread.
Sudan brewed ogogoro mixed with weed grin Chief you don't take prisoners at all grin

Al Bashir has just been caught on tape in Sochi mortgaging Sudan to Putin. In fact it appeared he'd have even gone on his knees begging Russia in front of the cameras to save him from the US. He claims they divided his country. Apparently that explains the Su-35s which won't come as powerful countries in the west and Nigeria will lobby against it. At best they'd get a watered down version that's not a threat to our air superiority. That's what many don't know that regional hegemons lobby hard in weapons transfer and sale. Uganda is an example with Su-30s with almost non-existent lethal capacity.

Intelligence tells us Al Bashir is not deterred though as he's offering the Russians basing rights like in Syria to deploy and man the jets and have access without restrictions to every thing Sudan like they do in Syria. We will see that don't happen. Our hands are full already with the French. NAF is on constant sorties in the northern-east flank many think just against Bokos but Air RECCE detects lots of things up there.

If need be those deadly operators you mention may soon be on kidnap duties to quietly bring Al Bashir in for questioning in Abuja and thereafter turn him over to the ICC catchers.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 2:18am On Nov 23, 2017
Taharqa999:
Sudan GDP per capita forcast vs Nigeria


shame.... grin
Statistics of payed hacks. Look not gonna pet you to bed. Pained southie masquerading as an Arab go to bed. A Sudanese would be ashamed to see the thrash you are spewing on nairaland. Sudan ke.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 1:55am On Nov 23, 2017
tdayof:
Flat noses who made your country what it is now. Flat noses deployed for peace keeping in Sudan.

We've been maintaining peace in your country.

With over 1000 tanks +

MIG 29 etc. Yet you can't maintain peace in your country and you're thinking of winning a war against Nigeria.


Your generals must be embarrassed with your stupidity.
todayof nice one. Pls don't mind an obviously pained African seething with anger at their failures. No need to beat dead wood. Sudan with all the noise that cannot protect it's airspace against Israel that enters it at will. Sudan with all the noise of mig-29 that couldn't stop rag-tag South Sudan army. Abegi leave matter. I don't blame fellow Africans our nicety makes them come here to insult our intelligence. Look at the other one from Kenya ridiculing himself questioning the capacity of a Nigerian General to put down a coup elsewhere. His country is not even the size of Anambra state one of the smallest in Nigeria. I've said we shouldn't be joining issues with third rate countries that can't even pay for their budget or those ones down south which can't fight even poachers yet tell us how they fail selection courses. For some of these noise makers militias in Nigeria like Tompolo, boko et al are enough.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 1:45am On Nov 23, 2017
tdayof:
I no say you go soon report to duty.
grin
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 12:52am On Nov 23, 2017
tdayof:
Cc:supremecourt and covert1


Kindly serve that guy what he deserves.
Haba! Chairman u know say I no go join masquerade wey miss road dey dance for midnight grin Let him continue the mad dance we dey watch grin

Tanks sha u know the kine tin wey im deserve grin
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 3:19pm On Nov 22, 2017
ssaengine:
"A banana republic can only exist on the doorstep of weak countries"

Irony is that there seems to be a lot more "existing" in that neck of the woods. Please forgive us, we're not used to this type of thing wink

Next time we'll go in and blow things up before the General's tea gets cold.
Exactly so u acknowledge just come for necessary tutelage before you engage to avoid a fiasco: not always military interventions go according to plan–we know so as masters of the game...Now see your comrades pay due obsequies to the Giant.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 3:11pm On Nov 22, 2017
patches689:
You realize that a dictator was just toppled without a single shot being fired?

I dont know what it is you expect to happen - we must invade to protect a dictator?

Dude, grow up.
What is Mr. Canceler Sry Patch'it Mumbling?
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 1:08pm On Nov 22, 2017
A Banana Republic Can Only Exist On The Doorstep of Weak Countries. History Has Shown Noisemaking Countries Are Soon Cut To Size—The Chief Jingoist Evidently Is.

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 12:03pm On Nov 22, 2017
LTGEN:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/11/breaking-president-robert-mugabe-resigns/
Minutes from being impeached ,Uncle Bob finally resigns, Southies you can rest easy.
Y'all can now explain to us what the Vice President err President was doing in your neck of the woods for at least one week.
The man simply ran away for his life and triggered a years plan with the Generals. Something the paper 'tiger' next door had no power over.

Who was gonna stick his head out for a 93 year old man who had become odious and on his way out. However a dangerous precedent has been set. It is now from one tyrant to the next only this time even worse. The vested interests that held Zimbabwe bound still persists under an effective military coup regime. Mnangagwa is not going anywhere soon and democracy will worsen. Zimbabwe is threading on anarchy and effectively now a banana republic all because of the abject failure of South Africa at every turn. Shame!
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 7:50pm On Nov 15, 2017
patches689:
After you said that I couldent help but notice your SupremeCourt moniker come online - and suddenly all your Covert1 posts have exactly 1 like!!! grin grin grin grin grin grin Sad!
Augustine is enjoying this no doubt just as I do when he's whipping ur behinds but not for likes you deluded coward. Evidently you suffer personal insecurities so u come on nairaland to write f.oolery for f.ools to like for u to hump on your bed. Kid! Southie thinking how bereft. No wonder the flight to Bangui Airport was free for all begging the French for shelter. Ouuuuuch! I wish Zimbabwe would go a step further. Imma whip you save for nairaland. Cowards!
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 7:40pm On Nov 15, 2017
SBS Operative of Africa's Giant:
Nigeria. Strength & Honor.

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 7:33pm On Nov 15, 2017
Jkay187:
It seems you have a comprehension problem and seem not to understand the difference between Invasion and Intervention
Go back to school.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 7:33pm On Nov 15, 2017
patches689:
Everything that can be said has been said, the conversation has been over for quite some time now.

Dont forget to log onto your other account so that your comments can get at least one like!
Coward! Likes makes him feel human worth. See the poor thinking of Southies. Are we now surprised why your Army takes pics? Alas! For likes not fighting. Pained kid run along.

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