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Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1:
Henry240:
The latest variant of Proforce Defence MRAP officially handed over to the Nigerian army today.


The Nigerian army needs to commit to buying a minimum 200 units.
Indeed 200 is not a bad idea. But even 50 for a start would gladden my heart knowing the penchant for purchase from multiple sources abroad. Already looks like stuff would be coming to the Army from the Southies. Proforce like other Nigerian firms must do better at lobbying for sales.

The Senate is already fuming having just discovered 162 million dollars was withdrawn in March 2018 from the federation account for purchase of helicopters. They are now demanding hearings into the matter from the CBN and Ministry of Defence.
Foreign AffairsRe: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 6:33pm On Apr 17, 2018
Goodwill from the Nigerian Navy

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 6:29pm On Apr 17, 2018
Goodwill from the Nigerian Navy
— except you want trouble -- of course not a good idea cos we know how to trouble those who trouble us to smithereens -- else peace from this side of the Ocean.

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 12:38pm On Jan 03, 2018
Dr. Innocent Chukwuma chairman of INNOSON GROUP presented with a DICON Diary by Maj.-Gen. Bamidele Ogunkale DIG of DICON at DICON Hq.

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1:
tdayof:
Like I have always said, innoson seems good at marketing and getting that attraction than proforce. I don't know if money is the issue with proforce but they're just taking things slowly.

Innoson keeps attracting the military even more than proforce. This is nice, let see how fast innoson can make some units of MRAPS. Apart from the APC from proforce, the ARA is another huge project but seems really too slow for me. They need to have rolled out more tactical vehicles.


Innoson has partnership with different Chinese companies and won't have issues developing a well tactical vehicle way faster than proforce. I have suggested Proforce works with companies such as Denel and integrate some sensors and nice fire power configurations on the ARA to boost her business.
Indeed you see that attraction with the military all over like the one with the Air Force which is long term. Profits is the driving force here being a private company but now with sensitive National Security & Defence investments which of course will make the Federal Government put an eye on things like military grade equipments for export. But same will go for PROFORCE if they up their lobbying game.

Both companies actually also have their sights and targets for foreign exports as Nigerian Vehicles from both companies are already seen in Mali and Libya and other African countries.

But to be fair to PROFORCE, beyond just tactical vehicles they have acquired certain expertise in ballistics to a greater degree than any other indigenous company I think which is reason perhaps the MRAP deal goes to them and Combat Assets of that range and capability which sophistication requires time to produce. Innoson it appears is faster and on budget when it comes to light transport vehicles for combat which the Army needs swiftly.

PROFORCE doesn't have the size yet nor financing to roll out such huge stocks as anticipated which makes a partnership of sorts as you suggested sensible. The problem is Denel is foreign owned and and it's technology not exactly solely South African comes with strings attached which is anathema to Nigeria's military industrial complex.

Innoson makes smart partnerships that works in the Nigerian environment. Why not PROFORCE partner with INNOSON? One builds the other does the Armouring or let the competition drive further innovation and industrialization.

PROFORCE will do well to follow suit and patronage from the Military won't be a problem rather the challenge would be how do you slow down or whittle down the influence of a Nations Military Industrial Complex when it takes off as vested interests in the sector, the government (both the executive and legislature) and the Military will see to it that the funds never stop coming including looking for wars to fight. The upside is it leads to National Industrialization across major sectors of the economy.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 2:32am On Jan 03, 2018
tdayof:
Covert1 did I just see innoson and AFV in the same sentence?
Apparently the Army is rooting for local production of Armoured Fighting Vehicles and they see that possibility in partnership with Innoson having proven their vehicles in the harsh-lands of Borno. It doesn't necessarily have to be your posh and expensive imported brand that doesn't meet expectations but something in the profile of what has been proven only this time tailored to unique NA specifications for the sort of AFV it requires for the combat theatre in question. That appears to be the thinking and I'm all for patronizing our own especially for items like this.

Normally such deal appears to be the forte of PROFORCE but perhaps there's a division of labour here with the MRAPS expected to come from the factory in the SW or just smart lobbying from Innoson or more than meets the eye for National Security. The fact is that Chukwuma guy is our own Howard Hughes and he can do just about anything on budget and on time. He's a genius and should be protected by State Security. The Army Chief understands the rudiments and instruments of national power and I think his judgement along with his top brass must be well informed.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1:
LTGEN:
Breaking:
NA to procure more Armored vehicles from INNOSON as being reported on the NA TWITTER PAGE
Bidexxi pleasecan you help us by downloading the most recent vehicles acquired by the NA from innoson
thanks.
Yes it's a Sit-Rep. This time is a strategic agreement signed btw the Nigerian Army represented by the COAS Lt. Gen Buratai and the Chairman himself of Innoson Manufacturing Innocent Chukwuma to build and supply the NA with AFVs and other vehicles including mechanical & engineering logistical support. In the words of the Army Chief the earlier samples of Infantry Support/Combat Vehicles supplied by Innoson for trials early last year proved very effective in the north-east theatre leading the Army to order more the rest of the 2017 Calender year. This time they ordered for another 100. For the AFVs the Army will partner with Innoson for its design to suit it's needs while Innoson will partner with the NA Vehicle logistics plant in Kaduna for attrition repairs, engine, equipment/technical replacements & refurbishments. Following the Army's request for other models to add to it's inventory new models were given today by Innoson for trials: The IVM G80 Bigger Jeep, IVM G40 Smaller Jeep and the IVM Granite Pick-Up.

The Army wanting to transform across the board for 21st century warfare whilst replacing personal firearm Kalashnikov-family rifles with modern firearms for each soldier (A good thing) should also replace most technicals with these vehicles and save foreign exchange.

This is it! I'm so elated at such pace of industrialization. This is how America started. Before long competition in the industrial base will lead to things in the Air both commercial and military. These sort of human and material resources is what wins wars and Nigeria is not lacking it. Innocent Chukwuma and INNOSON is now a national asset. The EFCC surely knows that. Clearly the 1 billion dollars is already being put to good use. Looking forward to hear orders for the equally versatile PROFORCE ARA MRAP undergoing trials.

Happy New Years Y'all!
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 11:52pm On Dec 25, 2017
Merry Christmas Guys To You And Yours!

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 9:59am On Dec 19, 2017
Meanwhile Paul Biya will soon be on his way out. He has bitten more than he can chew. Doing the white man's bidding in our neighborhood has it's limits. That guy single handedly made Cameroon an 'enemy' of Nigeria. You can't win a proxy war with us. Boko haram despite the recent hit and runs (which has fingerprints) will be history but Ambazonia will become reality and you can't stop it unless we chose to on our terms at a time of our choosing. Biya is a picture of the resentment they have for us.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 9:46am On Dec 19, 2017
SupremeCourt:
Everybody else discusses on this thread, especially you and your mafia. There will be no special rights for you cult guys on this thread, so me too, I will discuss freely, or else Nairaland owners should lock up this thread finally and everybody says goodbye to posting forever. Period!

Keep yelling and raising your BP, nobody cares if you drop dead with heart attack.
Whoever reads what that thing called patch writes, that would be ridiculous. Eagles have nothing in common with chickens. The Nigerian is his nightmare. He's insecure. The kid lacks home training to have any sense of discipline.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 7:00am On Dec 19, 2017
grin
SupremeCourt:
You are sick mister. Last month you promised never to reply my comments again, but today you swallowed your own shiit and told me I have no right to quote you, then I called you socialist half communist, you reply me again and say you are done with me, so how many times in your Berber Arab tribe do you people say goodbye and never again to the same person in same hour? You just cannot leave my comments alone, you and the Nigerian mugus who taught you how to block other people's freedom of speech on internet cannot leave SupremeCourt alone?

tongue tongue Now crawl back to your Sahara desert hole and love the Algerian terrorists there, I dont need love and attention from a sick man, I am not a jobless Nairaland addict like Odunayaw & Co tongue tongue
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 6:57am On Dec 19, 2017
SupremeCourt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMJVHu6G4yw

Major General Enenche, respectfully to you sir, you brought ordinary Israeli Tavor rifle to news room and said you will not tell us Nigerian taxpayers the name of the gun you purchased with our own tax and oil money, that gun is public property yet you deny the public the simple information of the name, why? Its not right sir.

Dont underestimate us sir, not all Nigerians are ignorant, its an Israeli Tavor rifle beside your AK-47 in that TV interview, we know weapons' details up to F-35 stealth jet and Kilo class submarine, so your rifle is nothing special sir. We can lecture you on weapons if you permit us and we will shock you as civilians.

Maj. Gen. Enenche, you, your army chief of staff, and our government that employed you are still repeating the exact same mistake of ex-president Joanthan and NSA Colonel Dasuki on the 2014 special arms fund $1 billion, same way Dasuki and his PDP never gave us list of what they wanted to do with that $1 billion, same way you too refused to tell us what Buhari wants you all to do with this $1 billion 2017 special arms fund.

It is your duty of accountability as public officers to publish full list of what this $1 billion is for, that your Tavor rifle you call sophisticated is only like $2,000 in the market, its no secret sir, google has international market price list of weapons. Only like 30,000 troops are fighting Boko Haram on each tour of duty in North East, Nigeria imported like 15,000 Beryl rifles as good as that Tavor rifle, plus the thousands of Tavors we already have, and another 1,200 Tavor rifles Dasuki said he bought. So rifle is not a big need, you have enough good rifles for anti-terrorism war.

Give us full details of each item and each price that totals your $1 billion cost. Another 10,000 units more of Tavor rifles in 2018 is only $20 million if you want to waste more money on rifles, so what of the remaining $985 million or is $985 million for the bullets and green dot sights? General sir, we youths are educated and not ignorant. What Super Tucano? Nigeria has like $600 million loot in USA that Trump promised to release, so use that to pay for Tucano aircraft.

In South Africa, Botswana, Rwanda of black people like us, their governments publish full details of weapons procurement funds, they dont show people cheap rifle to justify $1 billion cash spending! Dont tell us its a secret because you are importing these weapons and the UN law forces you to declare details to UN arms register and SIPRI org also publishes all your key imports on internet, so why are you hiding from Nigerians who own the money, the very information that foreign manufacturer nations overseas show their own people? Is that fair? Is that wise? Is that justice? Is that patriotism? Sir, I ask you, is that honesty, integrity, accountability in a democracy?

If Nigerian journalists are not given press conference publication of naira by naira, dollar by dollar, euro by euro, item by item, material by material list of this $1 billion spending by January 2018 or at least before the cash is released, we Nigerian youths and patriots will conclude APC political party wants to repeat PDP looting crime of 2014 and use most of this war money for 2019 election campaigns.

I declare to you that Nigerian youths, Transparency International, and powerful NGOs will launch massive public enlightenment campaigns in all 36 states to make sure Buhari is either impeached 2018 for repeating same crime he accused Jonathan of, or we spoil all APC chances in all 36 states and cause APC to lose 2019 elections.

Sir, I respect you, all our gallant servicemen and Mr. President, but we will not tolerate a repeat of same looting trick used on us in 2014, never again sir. Let Buhari live up to his claim of anti-corruption transparency if he does not want to be a hypocrite.

Please call journalists urgently to an Abuja press conference and let DHQ address us, let newspapers publish full list of names of items with prices that add up to your $1 billion by January 2018 or else tell Buhari to forget second term and APC forget 2019 election, the youths of Nigeria will start a peaceful revolution to bring down this government, and get all service chiefs retired prematurely, on the grounds of financial impropriety and failure in accountability concerning this special $1 billion 2017 approved arms procurement fund.

President Buhari cannot lock up ex-NSA Dasuki in prison for years and be committing same crime for which he locked up another man. Publish full details of all items and all prices on your $1 billion war spending list, and it must total one billion dollars.

Thank you sir. Long live the federal republic of Nigeria, amen.
You know sir, I'm very proud of you. I find this an excellent piece. What's really wrong with us the Nigerian people, we seriously should be asking questions. This piece should make the front page of Vanguard Newspapers or Punch.

Pls don't mind the crowd, they won't celebrate this but mediocrity. It's the way if the world. Intelligence intimidates them so they resort to character assassination. Their level of posting here should tell u. I since made my decision, 2017 is drawing to a close. Cheers man!
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 11:19pm On Dec 18, 2017
barineh:
True. A good Nigerian- south African relationship would be good for Africa. We could be true 50-50 partners.
We ain't gonna be 50-50 partners.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 11:11pm On Dec 18, 2017
lionel4power:
How are you still alive?

How do you survive everyday with this your attitude??
Curious u're still here being a double spy. I since assumed u were simply hanged as a traitor by a side of your handlers for compromising national secrets. But who knows in this business where u constantly have to watch over your shoulders not trusting anyone including your handlers who could use u as a compromise or scapegoat for the national cause it might just be ur double or clone on display but again who knows.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 10:57pm On Dec 18, 2017
Josfactz:
No mention of T72/90 bla bla bla

Only MRAPs, IFV, AR, boots and advance platforms mentioned




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cwqBBgQu_Y
The Maj. Gen. Speaking in general terms: "...among others...our requests cuts across the basic of (modern) weapons...to the most sophisticated platforms..."
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 10:49pm On Dec 18, 2017
iblawi:
Am sure you read their names on the internet, but am sure the president will consider the names of those you didn't read on the internet.
Being sectional in appointments has never helped Nigeria. The best should carry the daÿ not celebrating mediocrity. The President may be a good man but one thing is evident his penchant for sectional appointments. How I hate to say that being his ardent faithful but it's the sad truth. The acting NIA DG taking over from Oke is from where and what belief system? Aha, u tell me. But no wahala na our country so leave matter. Presently no other officer in the Nigerian Army has proven combat success like Maj. Gen. Lucky Irabor but ostensibly they'd drag the tenures till he reaches retirement. No bi today.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1:
tdayof:
They are doing really good. A new leader will probably change how things works which might end up being positive or negative so as for me, they're still perfect for the work.

Burutai is a fearless man. The CAS has done much for the airforce. The Navy itself is very silent.


Imagine getting fresh pictures and updates from them like the airforce.
He's a true soldier but I beg to disagree. We need new thinking. These guys are spent. And why is he always standing next to the C-in-C. I have a problem with that. The CDS is his boss. It's typical Buhari he trusts people too much till they betray him. I seriously have an eerie feeling. He should sack the lot. The only person deserving retainment is the CAS who should become CDS and not Buratai.

By the way new thinking in the new Theater Commander Op LAFIYA DOLE Maj. Gen. Rogers Ibe Nicholas has become more proactive in response than reactive. See...

My take: For the Nigerian Army I seriously contend that Maj. Gen. Leo Irabor should become the new Chief of Army Staff. Ezugwu should go to MNJTF. At that level for now these guys are the deal.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 7:00pm On Dec 18, 2017
barineh:
True Especially that Buratai. Devoid of new ideas and was head of military acquisitions during Oga Jona's time Id trust him. The air Chief seems very smart but he holds too many ceremonies ��. The Naval chief is very very very silent.
You dey perform magic grin I dey wonder how dey enter my head grin Didn't want to mention him Ooo before guys crucify me. I just don't trust Buratai anymore. And especially with our southie brothers falling our hand from Madagascar to now Zimbabwe with this new slogan of "military assisted transition" make we no go enter one chance. I just have this eerie feeling about the guy.

Forgive me but I must add wish the Southies will see my point of view. Their incapacity to enforce AU agreements down south has set a very dangerous precedent. Sometimes it seems like the motive is with one eye this way by coincidence. Our people too slow sometimes. Now when I see that Buratai I'm just not so sure anymore.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 6:48pm On Dec 18, 2017
tdayof:
President Muhammadu Buhari has approved the extension of the tenure of the Chief of Defence Staff, the Chief of Army Staff, the Chief of Air Staff and the Chief of Naval Staff.

The approval was confirmed by the Minister of Defence, Mansur Dan-Ali, who noted in a statement by his Public Relations Officer, Colonel Tukur Gusau, on Monday that the President extended the tenures “having carefully reviewed the ongoing military operations across the country.”

The statement, which did not specify the duration of extension, means that the CDS, Gen Abayomi Olonisakin, the army chief, Lt. Gen Tukur Buratai, the air chief, Air Marshal Sadique Abubakar, and the naval chief, Vice Admiral Ibok Ete-Ibas, will continue in office.

http://punchng.com/breaking-buhari-extends-tenure-of-defence-service-chiefs/
Methinks fresh eyes is needed on the challenges. The Nation owes them gratitude as their forbears, they've done well but dunno what new they can bring to the table.

What y'all think? Gonna be more of the same.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 6:40pm On Dec 18, 2017
barineh:
We need like 3-5b for Every area ( air, sea, land and air defense). Please send me his number we need to talk.
I was thinking the same thing, on average 5 billion. I'd have obliged you his number, but alas! I'm just a boot maker to the king.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 6:18pm On Dec 18, 2017
barineh:
LMAO y'all over thinking this. Off course the T90 is better than the T72. But 1b$ is not a huge money in the defense industry and I think that air power is more important now and in the future. If we could get 20 good 4+gen plane and some drones for now and the future and about 150 T72 for the present and lots Ara Mrap. I think we're good. Considering the Nigerian Factor and all that. Peace✌
We actually need more than that $1B.

You may pls ring up the C-in-C.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 6:07pm On Dec 18, 2017
Relevant News: Happy for South Africa at the moment, an important country: Cyril Ramaphosa has just been announced as the new leader of the ANC having won the leadership contest of the party against Jacob Zuma' ex-wife Dlamini-Zuma (hated that so much-a man wanting to impose his ex-wife on a nation). Potentially Ramaphosa is all but guaranteed to become the next President of SA a good thing and hopefully a better deal for the SANDF. A strong SANDF is good for Nigeria and Africa in general. New beginnings 2019.

Ramaphosa should seek to bring SA/Nigeria relationship in the way of the UK/US strategic co-operation on foreign policy acknowledging Nigeria's natural right of Continental leadership.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1:
Algerian1:
The T 90 MS is the most advanced version of the serie , they put some stuff from the T90MS on this last T72 B3 ( engine , armour.) and they will probably do the same on the T 90 versions. and a tank is used in armies for 20 , 30 years and more . russian futur tank industry will focus on T14 armata and T 90 MS , T90 S ( second line) . upgrade and maintenance will be difficult for T72 versions in 10 , 15 years

T72 are good for terrorists and even for conventionnal wars (especially in africa with less air force super powers ) ...( irak syria algeria still use them massively ) but i think also nigeria should go for T90 MS , T90 S and not for terrorists but for First line MBT to be prepared to a conventionnal war ! for one of the biggest country in africa you should have a good armored Division to impose its regional power for neighbours . T 72 cant be upgrade to T90 ( different turret design) and nigeria dont have a lot of T72M1 ( 50 , to 77 ) . and bought second hand ( from hungary army that received them in 1982 to 1985 from soviets) . Thats more than 30 years in service ( even if it was in storage ) and refurbished by czech Excalibur compagny .

so i think nigerian army should go for a new tank from russian plants as first line MBT to build a strategy development for 20 , 30 futur years .
Fair enough, well said. Such thinking is what we need not bias and envy against a country vaunting is natural might. That (patch) thing and his "likes" have no clue of military thinking but wannabee military 'experts' who have no clue of military thinking.

A large army like Nigeria's need modern main battle tanks the likes you postulated. The world is an unpredictable place. It is even a shame we are here talking of a token 77 or so second hand T-72 tanks -- which corruption got us -- for a country of some 200 million people with a GDP of half a trillion dollars depending on whose exchange rate you use. If I were that man at DHQ Abuja planning things I'd be pushing hard for German Leopards, it's just my amazing tank of the modern era except of cause the T-14 Armata as a probable alternative and why not it's time Nigeria stop buying like 'children' seriously, picking one here and two there. The T-90 may suffice as a minimum.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 10:03am On Dec 18, 2017
Ibrahimanees:
The last time I checked, this is African military and security thread NOT Nigerian. DHQ could buy a tank that flies or a WW1 tank, Kenyans, Saffas, Algerians and the rest of Africa don't give a fvck.
T90 T14 Abrams, the rest don't give a fvck, F 22 F 35 or Armstrong Whitworth Scimitar, the rest don't give fvck. And I am sure the Great Emperor Augustus will be rolling and cursing in his grave that somebody bearing his name is so stupid and self centered. Please Algerian, newafricaken continue posting those beautiful pictures. Ignore the cockroach in the room that claims to be an elephant.
Shut up! Re.tard clone of lionel4power the double spy a disgrace to Nigerianness. Who told u they don't give a fvck. These people resent us and were it not we are a powerful country they'd have since split us to smithereens something many of them secretly desire.

Envy will smite you assuredly.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 7:29am On Dec 18, 2017
andrewza:
As I said the T90 is the second best T72. The T90 is just a T72 it was littraly called the the T72BU before the name was changed to make it look more modern.


Actually a number of T72 have thermal cameras it not a T90 only thing.



The anti missile system of the T90 does not stop RPGs that the ERA. And the newier T72s have the same protection.



Those countries bought T90 because they wanted a new tank problem is the T90 production has stopped with a effort to switch over to the T14



The ammo issue of the the T72 is still there for the T90. It due the carasol system required by the use of a Auto Loader. The T90 ERA just stopped all the hits penatrating the same Era used on modern T72s
Designation is not the problem I think. It is clear Syrian T-90s performed excellently well and Armies watching would of course be interested. That's the point.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1:
Adminisher:
You are right. It is stupid to buy MBTs. There is no future projection study on warfare that predicts that MBTs are going to be useful.
UAVs, UGVs, USVs, robots, battlefield display systems, AI, attack choppers, et.c that is what to spend the money on.

Nigeria Airforce also needs SU 30s or MIG 35s to bomb with heavily and reach as far as possible.
It is not stupid to buy MBTs. Armour is armour only difference is caliber and technology that comes with it. It's a fact T-72s inducted were instrumental in reclaiming towns and villages occupied by BHT terrorists at the height of the war. Your assertion of Tanks not envisaged in future warfare is subjective depending on who you are listening to. The present nature of warfare by proxies rather than state-on-state warfare fits that prognosis however any modern conventional war or as we see with heavily armed and highly mobile quasi-armies like ISIS, BHT etc Tanks become necessary else you struggle in offensives and can't hold ground, the north east, Syria and elsewhere come to mind. Yes a lot of Intel will be procured as well as tons of logistics but with a mix of modern tanks too. The 3rd Armoured division Jos integrated with fighting forces in the North-East has borne the brunt of offensives against hitherto BHT strongholds and need attrition replacements. And no amount of artificial intelligence can replace the human mind that knows what it wants in the heat of combat.

The Sukhoi's have shown incredible might in Syria in the hands of the Russians. I still maintain we need the long range and weapon load capability of the flankers. I particularly like the touted laser capability of the Mig-35 and the potential of shooting down satellites a feature not to be discounted in future wars. I think though the flankers in the hands of a skillful pilot can perform that feat. Though some see the JF-17 Thunder performing multi-role functions which it can and especially the capability to deliver nuclear weapons something Egyptian Rafales can't do -- Whichever NAFs strategic imperatives on the continent requires a heavy fighter with long range air-air and ground bombing capability.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 7:15am On Dec 18, 2017
iblawi:
You are on point guy. Many expect too much from $1 billion dollars. My worry is that election campaign starts next year. grin
Antecedents of Nigeria's politics makes your worry well founded however again I'd assume the current President will do much better with the funds. We should dare to hope this time for the best. At least it may just come down to one man if our merciful God finds him which He couldn't in Sodom and Gomorrah.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 10:48pm On Dec 16, 2017
Nigerian Armour: Proforce ARA Thunder Coming Soon To Your Neighborhood

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 10:28pm On Dec 16, 2017
SupremeCourt:
You beat me to it, we dey busy drinking celebrating this awoof cash $ 1 billion new war fund announced on TV by Edo state governor Obaseki in Abuja and I forgot to post it here. We hope T-90 tank will appear 2018-2019, we don tire for Nigerian army Toyota photos on this forum. Most important is that money must vote 5% for Proforce ARA MRAP and Nigerian army engineers locally made ATV to be perfected for real combat 2018-2019, some 10 gallant Naija soldiers drove their Toyota or whatever vehicle to avoidable death by road IED explosion last week, but we also captured 400 Boko Mad Rams and their families this week in lake Chad area. Please save us from Toyota over flow and our second hand T-72 tanks now breaking to pieces like tokunbo rustic scrap metal




The Giant of Africa is rising, let all haters go hide under bush! FG add some king of desert war T-90 to these Toyota naa!!!!
Shebi! The news hot I let am drop.

The weekend has just been sweet with the surprise bombshell from Abuja. The country works like a mystery according to tdayof. We didn't even touch or mention other sources of emergency funding like NNPC, NPA etc. Nigeria is not feared for nothing. If them like make them dey buy useless shiny toys wey no get teeth. Look at Egypt buying billions of debt of metal without most sophisticated software to deliver crucial weapons. Algeria has had to complain and even threaten in the past to return Russian buys until Russian appeasements. When we decide to show hand world news go dey quake.

You might tell us the merits of the T-90 cos for me it's just the T-72 with upgrades. It might be a stretch but I fancy the Leopards. The Germans are quite good dealers. We can home incorporate some sensitive tech as always on any purchase not in the T-90/Leopard range assuming they won't sell. We know how to do these things. You know Nigeria won't buy without win-win obligations.

You put the money right on it as Proforce should get massive buys of the ARA Thunder. So far it's proving better than those from yonder.

I disagree with Barineh. NA Aviation Corps needs those birds. They are great force multipliers and quick-kill assets and advantage for taking out enemy armour in open warfare.

Things will become clearer in the days ahead but clearly hard assets are coming in and soon since some had already been under production following secret orders.

The Navy will be interesting to watch. Tdayof may shed more light for us on the envisaged Senate funding. Methinks the Army and Air Force will benefit more from this first tranche of 1 billion dollars of the present Buhari administration following the one of 2014/15 under former President Jonathan.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 10:02pm On Dec 16, 2017
SupremeCourt:
For a South African, ignorance is bliss, error is sweet, misfiring is fine art, and senselessness is soothing like Hillbrow cocaine
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Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 9:59pm On Dec 16, 2017
frumentius:
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Not sure which is the august classiness: using one's different accounts to like one's comments or using them to converse with each other. Supremely covertly, of course.
You were warned. Stop mention of the Covert unbeknownst to warm bodies here. Obviously the pain of evidence of our humongous discreet defence spending every other year was too much for you to bear that you couldn't help it but make a re.tarded retort. Just go and hide as ordered by SupremeCourt that's your only option. Nigeria is your boss period.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 10:02pm On Dec 14, 2017
barineh:
Haha rule no 1 don't trust a Nigerian Government
Well it depends on what.

It depends on which Government in power.

I'm confident this time the money will be judiciously used. The new fly boys of the Nigerian Army need things to fly. The Navy's expeditionary fleet ordered has to be paid for. The Air Force can't wait for it's new birds.

Whatever, we should sleep sweet tonight. Its a reality. The guys should be coming up with ideas of what to procure like what Army Aviation assets, there are guys looking this way.

My concern is Mansur Dan Ali. The purchase of the birds are looking more opaque than ever.

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