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akin emma: i perceive you are not even a beleiver at all.

And guess you are right?

akin emma: If you truly beleive in God and His Word,you should not be asking these questions.

Pathetic...you ought to read your bible properly cos there's no where in the scriptures where asking question that bothers you was regarded as a sin.

Quit your self righteousness and go through the following passages.

Matthew 18:1, Mark 7:2, matthew 18:21-22...

We are entitled to questions...therefore if you have no sensible reply to render, please remain mute.

akin emma: You are prone to untimely death,failure,sickness,death etc because you believe so.Have you not read in the bible where God says "you shall not die but live to declare the works of God?Have you not heard or come across this verse"for he shall give his angels charge over thee to keep thee in all thy ways.Have you not also read this in your bible " The name of the lord is a strong tower,the righteous runneth into it and is safe.

You just hit the reply button without fully absorbing my post.

Can you confidently tell me that ever since you became aware of life, no christian has died an untimely death, no christian suffers from sickness, challenges, barrenness...etc.

Its not a must to reply this thread...if you don't have any direct answer for me, please leave.

akin emma: The best answer to your question is simply in psalm 91.If you beleive what is written there,then you will know where God comes in in the life of a believer.Just to add this,When you are still living in the fear of all the problems you highlighted,then you are an unbeliever,so don't expect God to come in.True beleivers put their faith in God because all those problems you highlighted are too small to withstand the power of God.lastly"he sent out his word and healed our diseases".Shalom

You're bleating around the bush...stop repeating yourself...its obvious you have no answer to my question.

Good development.

Just tell me where and when the coronation would hold...I don't wanna miss it.

Ihedinobi: @CrazyMan

Are you conversant with the following Scriptures?

Acts 14:21-22
And when they had preached the gospel to that city, and had taught many, they returned again to Lystra, and to Iconium, and Antioch, confirming the souls of the disciples and exhorting them to continue in.the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Romans 8:17
And if children, then heirs; and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

John 16:33
...in the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Our salvation was not in order to "protect" us from difficulty or hardship or exempt us from work and patient labor. It was to give us the kind of Life that can outlast any trouble and can handle any labor no matter how tasking or involving and produce abiding fruit in spite of any resistance.

@bolded...could you kindly explain the following passages.

Philippians 4:19,
19 But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.

Matther 7:7-11,
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?

10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?

11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

Isaiah 53:4-5,
4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Psalm 23,
1 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.

2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.

John 14:12-14,
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

Thanks.

obadiah777: CHRISTIANS MASSACRED IN THE NORTH ARE DEFINITELY UNDER A DELUSION. YOU DONT MASSACRE GODS PROTECTED LIKE THAT. THEIR DELUSION STEMS FROM THE FOURTH BEAST. THE ROMAN EMPIRE WHICH INTRODUCED RELIGION. READ 2 THESSALONIANS 2 VS 10-12 AND ISAIAH 66 VS 4

OK AN ANALOGY. I HAVE 200 CHILDREN. I WANT LEADERS AMONGST THEM TO RULE THE OTHERS BASED ON MERIT. SO I GIVE 200 OF THEM A CHANCE BY GIVING THEM LAWS TO FOLLOW. ONLY 10 FOLLOW THE LAWS WHILE 190 REJECT IT. I CHOOSE THE 10 AS THE LEADERS. THATS THE ELECT. WE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO COME INTO THE WORLD AND OBEY THE LAWS. MOST DID NOT BUT A FEW DID. THOSE FEW WHO DID WERE CHOSEN. AND THEN SEALED. THEY ARE THE FIRST FRUITS ONTO GOD FROM THE EARTH ( REV 14 VS 4 ). HIS FIRST CHOICE.

SICKNESS AND ACCIDENTS ? JUST GET CLOSER TO THE LORD AND STOP GOING TO THOSE LovePeddler HOUSES CALLED CHURCHES. STUDY TO SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED AND OBEY THE LAWS. THE LORD WILL PROTECT YOU.

AND YOUR DEFINITION OF CHRISTIANS IS AN ABOMINATION TO THE LORD. SO THEY ARE NOT PROTECTED. A CHRISTIAN IN THE TRUE SENSE OF THE WORD IS SOMEONE WHO IS DEAD TO THIS WORLD. NO WORLDLY DESIRES, VERY HUMBLE AND MEEK. READS THE BIBLE DILIGENTLY AND TRIES TO FOLLOW THE LAWS IN IT. ALL THAT STUFF YOU AFRICANS DO IS NOT CHRISTIANITY. ITS IDOLATRY AND COVETOUSNESS

I have low battery right now...I would go through the passages you provided by dawn...thanks.

ijawkid: What we are absolutely sure of in this[b]TEMPORARY[/b]is spiritual protection............

if you notice most of the problems we face which you listed are really man made if you ask me..........

80 percent I should say.........

We cannot create problems for ourselves and expect God to be acting as a body guard...

What's your definition of man made problems...

Are you really saying that the problems I stated are man made?

Is praying against accident man made?

Is praying for success in an exams or a job interview man made?

Is crying out to God for justice as a result of being oppressed man made?

If they're man made as you stated, what's the point of promising to send us help cos its obvious that our immediate problems cannot be addressed simply because they are man made.

ijawkid: What should be of utmost importance to us is our personal relationship with God and his Son........Yahweh has given us enough power to help us maintain that relationship.........and like buzugee said Yahweh would provide food for us(daily bread).....That is what God
has guaranteed us.....

When his kingdom is ushered here on earth then life would be perfect again...then you wouldn't have to ask these questions.........

So we would endure the persecution, hardships, trials...etc we face here until his kingdom is established.

Ok.

obadiah777: UNTIMELY DEATH ? YOU WASNT PROTECTED. YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE IN THE LORD BUT YOU WERE NOT. YOU WERE IN A DELUSION CALLED RELIGION. BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RELIGION AND THE TRUTH. NOT EVERYONE WHO CALLS MY NAME IS OFF ME.

Are the thousands of christians who are being massacred in the north also in delusion?

obadiah777: YOUR SUCCESS GOOD HEALTH AND PROTECTION. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY SUCCESS ? GOD DOES NOT GIVE SUCCESS IN THIS WORLD. THIS WORLD IS NOT OF THE LORD AS IT IS SO HE WOULD NOT GIVE YOU SUCCESS IN IT, HOWEVER HE WOULD GIVE YOU YOUR DAILY BREAD.

Ok

obadiah777: GOOD HEALTH IS ONLY PROMISED TO THE ELECT BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN SEALED AND ARE NOW CELESTIAL BODIES AS OPPOSED TO TERRESTRIAL BODIES.

Please forgive my seeming ignorance...would you mind explaining who the elects are?

obadiah777: THE REST OF US DIE SLOWLY THE MORE POLLUTED FOOD WE EAT. THATS WHY WE HAVE THE DIETARY LAWS SHOWING US WHAT TO EAT AND WHAT NOT TO EAT. YOU CANT EAT PIG OR SHRIMP OR LOBSTER. THESE ARE THE SCAVENGERS OF THE UNIVERSE AND THEY ARE FULL OF TOXINS. EATING THEM CAUSES CANCER HBP DIABETES ETC ETC. SO FOR YOU TO HAVE GOOD HEALTH YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE DIETARY LAWS. IF YOU DONT ? WELL YOU ARE NOT GUARANTEED GOOD HEALTH.

I'm not talking about nutrition, am talking about accidents, sickness...etc.

Its no longer news that christians are prone to them. Aren't we suppose to be protected?

obadiah777: PROTECTION ? IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO YOU WHICH INDICATES YOU WERE NOT PROTECTED ? THEN YOU NEED TO REALLY GET CLOSER TO HIM CUZ LIKE I SAID, RELIGION IS IDOLATRY. GOING TO CHURCH IS IDOLATRY. SO IF YOU THINK YOU ARE PROTECTED BECAUSE YOU GO TO CHURCH, THE JOKE IS ON YOU

So in situations where after getting as close to him as possible, you still hear nothing what then would you do?

obadiah777: WELL WITH ALL THE QUESTIONS YOU ARE ASKING, I SUSPECT YOU ARE INTO RELIGION. A DELUSION. WITH RELIGION THERE ARE NO ANSWERS

I need answers...clear answers and not accusations that's why I started this thread.

obadiah777: HEY CHIEF. TRUST ALL IS WELL.

I'm cool bro...and I trust you're good.

obadiah777: 1-THERE ARE BILLIONS OF DEMONS WALKING AROUND SEEKING WHOM TO DEVOUR. YOU ARE PROTECTED FROM THEM [/b]

So why are we still prone to untimely death if we're being protected.

Or are the demons on earth stronger than the angels who are assigned to protect us?

obadiah777: 2-YOU WILL BE PROTECTED FROM THE TRIBULATION PERIOD WHICH WE ARE ENTERING NOW

3-YOU WILL NOT END UP GETTING ROASTED IN NUKES LAKE OF FIRE

This is where have to cut in...why should I be roasted in fire, when I've not been fully convinced that my success, good health, protection...etc is from above.

If I'm to be punished in hell, then it should be for rebellion...and mind you, you only rebel against a seen force...not an unseen one.

If christ were to appear to us, or to communicate with us clearly and audibly, believe me, most christians won't be confused and doubtful.

Also if I must preach christ to the unbelievers, I have to experience him first...you can preach about someone you haven't seen or heard in your entire life...it makes no sense.

obadiah777: 4-AND TO TOP IT OFF, YOU GET TO END UP IN HEAVEN ON EARTH AND HANG OUT WITH ISAIAH JEREMIAH EZEKIEL MOSES SOLOMON ETC ETC

5-THE PROMISES IN HEAVEN

I would address this part later.

ninja4life: When u die,dont expect God's intervention in dis world cos dat one na long thing.hmm dats all

Are you telling me that God detaches himself from we (his children) during our lifetime on earth when we need him, but appears to judge and condemn us once we die?

Is that what you're saying?

Good evening my fellow christians, please I've been pondering this question for a while now, I felt I should share it with the house.

My question goes thus... WHERE DOES GOD COME IN - IN THE LIFE OF A BELIEVER?

From what I've observed so far, we have to read our books in order to pass our exams. (Irrespective of what we believe in)

We must study hard for an aptitude test in order to get our dream job.

We must browse through the internet and ask relevant questions in order to discover secrets on how to excel in job interviews.

We must go to the hospitals whenever we're sick so we can be cured.

We must drive carefully in order to avoid accidents. And should it occur, we would resort to wheelchairs and crutches to aid us in mobility. (That's for those of us that survive)

We must higher lawyers in order to get justice for ourselves.

We are prone to untimely death just like every other person.

We are prone to health issues like barrenness, low sperm count and heart attacks as a result of our frustration...which could also lead to death.

We are faced with challenges on daily basis, and we end up resolving it either by our selves or by seeking help from friends and colleagues.

Most of our brethren in the north have stopped going to church for fear of being killed by unbelievers.

Now I'll ask my question a second time... WHERE DOES GOD COME IN - IN THE LIFE OF A BELIEVER?

Please I want direct answers not boring and confusing replies.

Thanks.

Charles Shaw: Ok Boss!
Onweror ife n'eme.
Me i no geti wahalla!

I mela maka nghota gi

Charles Shaw: Hmmmm SMGDH.
I stil reiterate it that u were Biasd in ur in ur so called Discipline by hiding posts by people expressing their utter disgust to a gurl who turnd hersef into a public nuisancè.
In ur own word:
'IF U DISLIKE THE PICTURES REMAIN MUTE' On Quote.
If u disliked the comments people made on the rèpulsive pics, u cud hav as wel overlookd it.
Mind u, d hidden comments wer not mine.
If u wer rlly bent on Discipline u shud hav started from d Rootage by hiding those horrifying pictures not hidding comments provoked by a SURLY LOOKING CREATURE.

I wasn't the one who created the rules on Nairaland, Seun did.

NO PERSONAL ATTACKS OR PUBLIC FIGHTS
Nairaland is a discussion forum, and it is inevitable that disagreements with crop up from time to time.  Please be nice and respectful to other members at all times and do not resort to personal attacks, false accusations, name-calling, and other unproductive forms of communication.

Those are Seun's words...its his forum not mine, so if he gives out rules, it becomes our responsibility as moderators to carry it out, and to ensure that its strictly adhered to.

She didn't break any rule by posting her pictures, (in case you're not aware, nairalanders post their pictures on daily basis on this forum...infact most of them are making waves cos its being moved to the front page for better publicity) but you guys broke the rules by insulting her that's why the posts were hidden.

Charles Shaw: Crazyman u r being Biased joor,
u'v hidden the whole posts by correct men exposing hw ugly dat thing is but u nva hid all those ugly pix.
This ain't rite, v jus stated my mind.

If you call discipline biased, then I'm also disappointed in you as well.

You have no right to make jest of anyone.

If you dislike the picture, then remain mute...an insult on one's personality is a serious offense and only a simpleton would see such as fun.

WinnieDPooh: Crazyman hid all the sweet comments and it is not funny at all

For those that were not around this afternoon you guys really missed. This house was fun today i tell ya...

I'm truly disappointed in you...

A fellow female like you is being taunted and you call it fun.

I case you don't know, this room is expected to be educating and accommodating...take your time to check the number of views on this particular thread and tell me if its wise to leave such silly comment all in the name of fun...

Its ok to have jokes, its ok to have fun...but insulting and making a mockery of your fellow member shouldn't be regarded as fun.

If we want to uphold the dignity of this section then we must respect each other and mind the kind of language we use on one another.

nijanigga: Nigeria is using adult men some in thier 30s to play under 17. Three of the players have already failed scan test.Almost nothing clean comes out of Nigeria.

Do you have valid proof to back up your are you just blabbing.

That should have been goal number 5 for Nigeria...

Goaaaaal...

Fowl na...refree wetin you de blow sef?

Valto: nigeria just de miss chances, make tunisia no punish us ooo

The tin tire me o.

Mumu player..is that how to take a shot.

That should have been a goal for Nigeria...it was a clear one-on-one.

Second half resumes...its Nigeria 3 tunisia 2

toluxa1: You be real Craze man

Can't you see that the post has been modified.

Its half time, Nigeria leads by 3 goals to 2....good game play by the Nigerians.

Jesus...that was a close one for tunisia, thanks to our defender who cleared the ball on the line.