₦airaland Forum

EzeUche:
I see no difference between what the Igbo suffered

And what the Jews suffered during the Holocaust.

ACM10:
I appreciate your effort to argue by quoting books in support of your position. Inasmuch as I would like to be convinced by your staunch defence of your position, I would also like to go back in time and gain a little knowledge of the background of the author you steadfastly quote his work like gospel. Since you did not make an attempt to provide that much needed information. I opted to give you some help.


[size=18pt]Who is John de St. Jorre?[/size]



It is well documented that European and American intelligence assets operate under the cover of a diplomat, freelance journalist, tourist, aid workers, businessmen, etc. Does John de St. Jorre qualify to be placed in any of these categories? We all know that Westerners don't declassify the names of their intelligence asset, even at death. For example, CIA only place star symbol at their memorial ground at CIA headquarters in Virginia, if any of their agents dies in action, but never publish their names.

With this background of John de St. Jorre and considering the role Britain played during the civil war, do you think that the account of Brits intelligence asset will be objective?

I honestly don't think so.

igbo boy:
Based on your poosie move not to state what your ethnicity is our debate has been effectively cancelled, why hide under a cloak are you scared I will dissect you?

And please I am from Delta State which was part of the old Midwest (I cant speak for all midwestern igbos but i know 100% my people where pro biafra) so dont go here blabbing as if igbos are only found in the East,

I wont respond to any further posts from you until you lay down what set you claim fool (as in ethnicity) then we can be debating on an equal playing field,

Anuofia am out

igbo boy:
1. cyberG who are the PH locals? Is PH (and Present day rivers made up of one ethnic group?) FYI my mom is from Rivers, I am not from "present day east as it is referred to in Nigeria today" ok,

PH, of course, comprises of more than one ethnic group: Abua, Andoni, Ekpeye, Engenni, Etche, lbani , lkwerre, Kalabari, Ndoni, Ogba, Okrika, etc.


2. No i dont see the logic, Attache attache na im u dey define here, Look at the begining of the war "most" of the then old eastern people where either with Biafra or where neutral, after the fall of these peripheral communities they either remained neutral or joined the Nigerian side!!duh with the threat of extermination by the Nigerian force (like the massacre in Delta North communities) and promises of carving out for them a region for them outside of igbo influence why wouldnt they?

[b]The logic is self explanatory: the people who you fought and lost were from other tribes in Nigeria, hence they are BATTLE-TESTED! Except you wish to contend that until all the soldiers of one tribe belong to a particular division only, fought and won then they become battle tested and otherwise, they are not. This of course would be an unprecedented attempt to push a bizarre point of view. Some of the more effective divisions and renowned commanders were from particular tribes and yet they were not battle-tested? One more thing which you should consider: It is highly commendable to blend almost totally fresh recruits, with diverse backgrounds and tribes into an effective fighting force and win than take an homogenous army. Think about that.

I should also fail not to comment that, you being a young man now, have nothing on people far older than you that made a decision to be on one side against another on a promise of owning their land, their state and some measure of control. At the beginning, was the approval of the people sought before being co-opted into the war because if it was, then you could say they flip-flopped but their decision was NEVER sought to war! "Duh" is not a compliment to those people and they are well within their rights to make any decision and live with the consequences. In the final analysis, the events and records of what happened during and after the war does not show that they were neutral or fought for biafra. Most people including the Mid West was neutral until the war was under-way and it became clear what the future held with biafran incursion across the Niger. Otherwise, if they were so cozy with the biafrans, and were merely influenced by the offer of their own states as alluded to previously, why were they attacked when the biafrans were forced to leave? Why did they not quickly and gladly return back all properties on their land back to the Igbos after the war?[/b]

Now the war was then carried out mostly by igbos, We all know who did most of the fighting on the Nigerian side (and is not these your so called PH locals).

I never said or mentioned that PH locals did most of the fighting. Please read again and if I made any such statement, I will edit it right away.

MEND is mostly Ijaw (yes i said mostly ijaw you would hardly see an urhobo, isoko, akwa ibom, igbo, itsekiri, efik bini man etc in MEND), BH is mostly hausa/fulani  so my point remain that these are the only battle tested group in Nigeria,

You are still wrong to say that some group is the only battle tested in Nigeria! There are groups that have fought battles for 100s of years before the biafran war with the most modern weapons of their time, does it mean they are still not battle tested? In modern times, several Nigerian soldiers of different tribes fought in Burma, Congo, the Civil War and then Liberia. Does that mean they are still not battle-tested until they fight on ethnic and tribal grounds in support of a shared belief? Abeg, don't demean any of this people for if you saw any of these people in the heat of battle, then you will know if you are even riot-tested! Have you stared down the barrel of the gun pointed at your face before? Be respectful!


You know I am igbo so what the hell are you? are you trying to hide under a cloak? Reveal your ethnicity let me shame the devil, #NwaOshimilideyhereso

I politely decline any invitation to discussion about tribes. I can already read all your insults and desire to engage in a tribal fist-cuff. I advise this is not necessary and your best bet to shaming the devil is to get off hatred for other humans on the basis of their tribe and race.

Ugwumba:
EzeUche, if you ignore him, he cannot continue much more. He is trying to goad you into a response that he can continue to bite on. IGNORE HIM, and he will be forced to leave.

Ugwumba:
CyberG, please explain how Uwazurike's succession to Ojukwu concerns you? Very soon, you will start another 'tribal' discourse here.


Okay, it is a lie - there was no mass killing of the Ibo. Happy now? Find another topic to draw attention to yourself.