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BlackPikiN:Pfffffttt! Who cares that you are following me around? Jonze-a-thon is a dumb ass anyway and his team of dumb bottoms can never grow a brain! BTW, Mr. man, we had a civil debate today which didn't seem to go well for you and since then, you've been following me about, why? Where I am or come from is of no consequence to the hardship unleashed by the dumb ass president. Leave in peace now and find your level. |
^^ Your analysis does not take off the ground because they are not buying any buses - according to their president! The mass transport scheme is without purchase of buses by the government, but they will subsidize it still. Let us wait and see or you can tell us what this government is doing! ![]() I think Jonze-a-thom has finally run mad now. How can you have a palliative (mass transit) that does not exist? |
LOL. . .who cares if his brains is splashed on the road with AK-47 + RPG? Pffffttt! So sad, my SS produced the dumbest ass brain in the history of the world! Hahahaha. . .nothing will happen if this fool is deleted now! Better he be sacrificed to amadioha and we can have peace than 500+ already killed in 2011 by bombs and shooting and 4 or so already killed by his inept police force enforcing the subsidy! |
So, you launched a mass transit scheme without buses? Hahahaha. . .not that anyone cares about the lies but sinking to new lows and gaffes is your hobby Goatluck. So, not buying buses but subsidizing mass transit, how exactly? Who and where will the buses come from? How will be subsidy of mass transit be implemented? Or, you already have your friends ready to bring in tokunbo buses and start collecting subsidy for buses that are totally immobile? Hahaha. . .fresh air! Goodluck Nigerians! |
Subsidy is ~$ 8 B as she mentioned but that entire money has already been shared to the states, LGs, etc. So how can you plan on money that you WILL NOT have? Or, will all the pipe dreams the PDP and Jonagoat government could not do by digging the country into a $30 Billion dollar debt now be done by ~$4 B? Failure president with failure ministers! By the time Goatlock is deleted from Nigeria, all the goodwill of the so called world bank turned minister would be gone in smoke! |
^^ Hmmnn. . .food for thought and action! Every useless government official starting from Jonze-a-ton needs to be deleted! It is far better to get rid of a few useless fools and save 500+ from BH death in 2011 alone. |
nedu210:Nedu, the intention is not to start an unnecessary fight but that not all Igbos (or other Nigerians) think the same way or must agree and I showed you an instance. The debate has no need to discredit the man's opinion by questioning his tribal allegiance for he does raise a fair share of legitimate issues which some people bandy around on the internet. If you are a new person on NL (and not a new ID), I invite you to see my previous 1500+ posts and show me if I ever gloried in the death of anyone from any tribe. These killings all have an history and I pointed some of those out, just as the Ibo writer, and it is advisable to look at those things objectively. Some of those things are a direct reflection of what caused the macabre killings in Nigeria: ARROGANCE, EMPTY BOASTING, COVETING ANOTHER MAN'S LAND AS A TENANT, NOT SHARING OR GIVING CREDIT, LACK OF DIPLOMATIC AND TEAM SKILLS, ETC. I never want or agree with any type of killings and I don't want another Nigeria in 100 years or ain't you tired of killings yourself? If you are, everyone needs to go to his own land and BOAST there. |
Logic Mind:Don't get the issues wrong. Your tenant is boasting he owns your property and when you challenge him, all hell must break lose? The history of the war is well documented even here on NL, no need to blame the wrong people for the war. Your running away or not is of no consequence, when Nigeria breaks, you CANNOT own another man's land! This is what we are both saying and since we agree, shikena! Arrogant boasting, covetousness of someone else's land or people, taking credit for another man's work, abusing your host community for their generosity and giving you a sense of inclusiveness does not mean you own the land. No one is claiming Iboland, it's yours and I contend that when Nigeria breaks, EVERYTHING MUST be done so that another Nigeria-like situation is NEVER created again. If we both agree, then people MUST stay in their father's land and grow it. This is all that is to this discussion and this is a task that MUST be done otherwise in 100 years, we will be back at the same spot! |
Source: http://chatafrik.com/articles/nigerian-affairs/item/321-why-do-igbos-always-go-looking-for-trouble?.html Why Do Igbos Always Go Looking For Trouble? Written by Ozodi Osuji Ph.D There is something in the psychological makeup of Igbos that makes them always go looking for trouble. In the calmest of circumstances they will always do something that would annoy those around them, create conflict and then live in conflict; they seem to enjoy living in conflicts. As it were, they seem to have death wish and do things that would make those around them to attack them, and or kill them hence gratify their death wish (thanatos). Consider their relationship with their neighbors. Invariably they would say or do something that even a child knows would irritate those neighbors and do it as if they do not know that such actions irritate people. Consider Obi Nwankanma’s concocted historiography. The man is apparently writing a history of Igbos (as gleaned from the snippets of it that he posts on the Internet). Invariably, he would make claims to the effect that Igbos stimulated what their neighbors did or he would make Igbos have credit for what other Nigerian tribes did. And he would make these self-serving bogus claims as if they are true. He is, of course, lying but presents his lies as if they are substantiated truths! The man writes history as propaganda! Taking credit for what other tribes did diminish those tribes self-respect; they feel attacked and angry at him and by generalization at all Igbos. Thus, the man’s private behavior has negative public consequences for most Igbos, for other Nigerians who feel insulted by him (in a country where folks indulge in stereotyping behaviors, by all Igbos) attack any Igbo in sight. And this misguided man is not the only one doing what he does; many Igbos do it. Consider their unreasoning response to Frederick Lugard and his British cohorts. Britons created what is now called Nigeria in 1914. Igbos who hitherto did not have a nation were for the first time placed under one administrative unit hence given a sense of being one people. But instead of being grateful to Lugard for hastening their sense of oneness some foolish Igbos call Nigeria Lugard’s cage; that is to say that they feel caged in a place they would rather not be in. They flock to other parts of that Lugard’s cage to seek employment! The Yorubas allowed them to come to Lagos, a Yoruba city. Now many of them live at Lagos. Instead of expressing gratitude to their Yoruba hosts some of them now claim that Lagos is an Igbo city! Imagine that cheek! Yorubas could feel insulted by squatters claiming ownership of their land and attack and kill a few of them and the rest of them would carry their loads on their sorry heads and march to the East. They would not even have the courage to stand and fight to death. When the going gets tough they always run to their tribal enclave. These people routinely insult Hausas and Hausas, not being as patient as Yorubas are, often pick up their machetes and start slashing at any Igbo in sight. These people literally ask other people to attack them and when attacked they turn around and see themselves as victims. Alas, the rest of the world does not come to their rescue! The white man could care less if Africans murdered other Africans, if in doubt see the Sudan, Somalia and East Congo where Africans, as we speak, are butchering each other and the International community give them all the opportunity they need to get rid of themselves from the face of this earth (and leave the damn continent for animals so that white men come on wild life safaris in it). If other Nigerians start murdering Igbos no African Union or United Nations would come to their rescue and even if they did they would send African soldiers, who are likely to be Muslims and hence participate in killing Igbos some more! These people are not aware of the real world they live in and talk as if they are invulnerable supermen when in fact they are the most vulnerable group of Nigerians (other Nigerians hate their arrogance and could easily gang up on them and do away with them). So why do Igbos do these crazy things when they could have peaceful relationship with their neighbors? Why do they go looking for trouble (as Fela Kuti said, trouble de sleep” iyanga” de look for am)? Fela recognized that pride (iyanga)causes interpersonal troubles; Igbos are” inordinately proud” and out of their pride insult other folks and those folks also being “normally proud” human beings (all human beings feel proud, in degrees; the neurotic, aka narcissistic and or paranoid personality feels inordinately proud)feel degraded and attack them. Fela was an insightful musician, not trained psychologist. There is a more psychological process at work in these people’s apparent irrational behavior. They do what they do because of their inordinate sense of inferiority. Feeling totally inferior and wanting to seem fictionally superior to other persons they make claims that would seem to make them seem superior to other people. Those absurd claims naturally make those they belittle angry, and those attack them. INFERIORITY FEELING I am saying that Igbos go looking for trouble because of their sense of inferiority and paranoid level of compensatory superiority (according to Alfred Adler, all human beings feel inferior and compensate with some superiority feeling and quest for power over their world, but the neurotic over does it). DEATH WISH (OR FREUD’S THANATOS) It is as if these people have a death wish and must attack other people so as to generate other people’s counter attacks on them, and when attacked they feel persecuted hence feel alive. The pathological ego feels alive when persecuted! The paranoid person feels alive when he feels attacked and is defensive; if not feeling attacked and persecuted and defensive he does not feel like he is alive! The paranoid person has not yet learned that a person can feel even more alive by loving himself and those around him. If you want to truly feel alive do what loves other people and what serves people’s interests. The alternative to Christian agape love for all people is the paranoid attacks on people that generate counter attack for him and he gets attacked and in defending his self feels falsely alive. For the longest time I could not quite understand this oddity in many Igbos behavior. Finally, I understood it. They engage in their apparent self-defeating behaviors because of mental disorder. They suffer mass delusion disorder (follies adieu, aka group paranoia). The deluded person takes his private interpretation of reality as reality. He wants to seem superior and powerful, which he is not; he imagines that he is superior and powerful; believes what is not true as true hence is deluded. The mentally ill person is not operating in the real world; he is living in his personal world, his fantasy world where he is all powerful and invincible. The sadist part of it all is that even if you understand the dynamics of what is going on in the deluded person’s head and tell him about it he does not get it and continues doing what he does that gives him certain results and continues to get the same results while expecting different results. Igbos insult other people, make them angry; they get attacked and or killed. They do not want to be attacked and killed; that is, they want different results but they keep doing what generates the old results and get it. This is the definition of mental disorder: doing the same thing while expecting different results. An alcoholic keeps drinking but does not expect to damage his liver and health; poor soul; as long as he is addicted to his drug of choice he must be slowly damaging his liver, brains and killing himself even though he wishes to be healthy and live. I know that these people are not going to change for part of mental disorder is not to see what is obvious to the normal person. The normal person, as if instinctively, recognizes that if you insult folks that they would be angry at you and that some of them would attack you, but these bizarre folks keep attacking others (by insulting them) and not expecting them to counter attack them in self-defense. They do not know what they are doing and one is wasting one’s time trying to get them to recognize the obvious. I suppose this is my mission: to keep stating the obvious until those who wear blinders finally remove their veil and see it; remove the mask over their eyes and see reality as it is. I will never give up on them after all they are my people, and attacks on them, even if self-brought, are attack on me (when folks begin attacking or killing Igbos they will attack or kill me, too). The sins of fathers are visited on their children’s heads. Therefore, I must keep trying to help them smell the coffee and roses. A FINAL WORD ON OBI NWANKAMA’S PRETENSIONS Obi Nwankanma, apparently, is writing history, make belief history of Igbos. He has been talking smack about Nri as core Igbos (obviously a self-serving claim). His idiotic talk is irritating me. One of these days I would unleash my fury at him. I generally allow annoying things to simmer for a while and when I become sufficiently angry I unleash a ferocious attack and will keep attacking and nothing would stop me. By and by I will take Obi Nwakanma up and attack to destroy his pretensions. These clowns write 419 histories that make their people the head of Igbos while ignoring the obvious, that the core of Alaigbo is Owerri. When I have some time I will do rigorous research on Igbo history and then refute their make believe history (I just read Elizabeth Isichie‘s version of Igbo history; she is not pretentious and haughty; she honestly believed what she wrote; she is a scholar, not a propagandist pretending to be a scholar). For now let me just say that it is irritating to one to see those who are not even fully Igbos to keep talking as if they are real Igbos and worse present themselves as the leaders of Igbos (they were influenced by surrounding non-Igbo folks; the real Igbos are in core Igbo land, in the Igbo heartland, Owerri/Orlu axis. (Owerri must eventually become the capital of one unified Alaigbo state in Nigeria or Alaigbo republic should Nigeria breakup). The time allotted to foreigners, such as Onicha/Edo folk, rule over Igbos is over. Most history books are written as songs of praises to the people they are written about hence are hardly objective. That been said, if one is writing a history of one’s entire people one ought to make an honest attempt to be fairly objective rather than write claptrap that sings the praises of one section of the people. Just imagine it: everyone knows that Owerri is the core Igbo but clowns from non-Owerri area pretend to write Igbo history and not give central place to Owerri. Even the much maligned white colonial folk recognized that Owerri is core Igbo hence made Owerri dialect the central Igbo dialect in their books on Igbo language. But buffoons from non-Owerri area write as if their peripheral areas are central to Igbo history and in their idiocy expect Owerri folks to accept their nonsense. Why, it is supposed to be Igbo history and every Igbo ought to accept it even if it is a bunch of lies. When I am free to pay attention to history I will descend on these clowns like a ton of hot coal. Their contrived, 419 scam history of Igbos cannot be allowed to stand. |
nku5: nku5:See bolded and only if you don't understand the meaning of what you wrote then, you should use simple language that you can defend yourself on. I said: everyone should go to their father's homeland. Or, does an owner have no right to send non-native away? America cannot refuse a Nigerian a visa to stay without being a bigot? This is just a very simple point. We just don't want any type of Nigeria again with any one - is it by force? Take ANYTHING you have on the land, including everything and everyone that is non-native to the land in the SS, North, SW, MB and send every foreigner in your land away too - IN PEACE! Take the money too, PLEASE, so everyone can live in peace! Again, it is not by force, we don't want either another troublesome country and foreign people, and you should do the same or are you not tired yet? For goodness sake, let EVERYONE go to their homeland! See a fellow Ibo's opinion below. |
BlackPikiN:You have nothing to offer. You are too mentally challenged or lazy to even show one link. I don't play your tribalistic games of words. I will come back only if you show any evidence of the claims that has been made here. |
[/quote][quote author=nku5 link=topic=841674.msg9921279#msg9921279 date=1326046788]@ cyberg - your response to the op's topic is pitiful and primordially bigoted. Even if you have hatred for igbos at least try and cover it a little. At times I shudder to think ppl I interact with daily have all this bubbling inside of themI asked questions. I showed a link from another Igbo source saying exactly the same and going to harder details. Show me your own proof that you are not a band-wagoner. The Ibo friends that I have are NOT tribalists like you and have never espoused such empty positions as this one. Address the questions and let us have a debate if you have evidence to show how long you have existed in Abuja, Lagos, etc |
BlackPikiN:With a paltry 42 posts on NL, you should get to know people before showing yourself as an ignoramus only queuing behind any tribal agenda that suits you. I showed you evidence that not all Igbos (including LOTS of people here) will think like you! Stop your mental laziness and show me real evidence as demanded in my post. That people don't want a tribe is because of things like these: empty boasting, arrogance, claiming other people's property, unable to give to and share credit with others, lack of people skills, lack of diplomatic skills, etc, etc. In the end, NO part of Nigeria wants another Nigeria and just as the Northerners shouted "A raba" during the riots of the 60's and Ironsi refused and in cahoots with Nwokedi and co, foisted the useless unification decree, NOW other people are saying: NOT ANY MORE! Or is it by force that everyone must take your point of view? |
Gotluck Jonze-a-thon is playing the tribalism card and someone is already falling for it talking about biafra. In 1967, Goatlock was a minor at 10 years old, so he is of no consequence and he could not even influence his family's opinion either. But given that he is 54 years old now and so incredibly stoopid and dumb ass, imagine when he was 10! SMH |
Marlboro1:Now, you expose your racial and tribal hatred - which was your original motive because I called you out? Try again! See what a better adjusted fellow Igbo said: http://chatafrik.com/articles/nigerian-affairs/item/321-why-do-igbos-always-go-looking-for-trouble?.html 1. When did Igbo start to migrate to Lagos because you know that is not their land nor that of their ancestors? Give the year. 2. There's no sensible Igbo that will read your arrogant and empty chest beating post that will see anything except I told you the truth. 3. No one cares about any house or resources on a native man's land! Take it away already or it will be forcefully removed. I am only trying to help you because everyone is tired of hearing only complaints from people like you and you will end up getting people, who don't think like you, killed. 4. When Nigeria breaks up, no one wants another Nigeria or do you want another Nigeria? One of the pivotal reasons for the counter-coup (though it started immediately after the Ibo January 1966 coup) was the promulgation of the useless and rejected Decree 34 by Ironsi, goaded on by Nwokedi! Check your history.Do you want another Nigeria? Well, other regions don't so let everyone live in their land and boast there. If you rent a strong man's house and begin to get boastful about it, what do you expect? Rose flowers? Well, your guess is as good as mine. 5.NOTE: This is NOT about any useless tribal issue BUT we must all face the TRUTH and speak it! |
Foolishe man! Which war did you fight? Everyone knows that the most stupid and dumbest ass like you would be sacrificed to the gods first in war! Barawo shege banza! |
LOL. . . so they developed a place that was already developed long before they came? Lagos? Every house the land renter built for others but his own? Look, when Nigeria breaks up, the North, West, Middle Belt, Port Harcourt will remember empty statements like this to ensure NO NON-NATIVE remains in Lagos or other cities! Ancestry will be traced by DNA to very conclusive extents so taking up another regions name by fraud will not help your case. Arrogance is what lead to the killings of Ibos during the 50s and 60s but you have not learned anything. When regions are broken up, physical barriers and law shall be enacted to ensure you don't live on another's land only to boast and make spurious statements like this one. Every business and house that is built on another's land MUST be uprooted off the land. El-Rufai showed that any structure of anyone can be destroyed even settlements. Even northerners will fare better when it comes to negotiating mutual economic pacts. Every SS people will protect their land from anyone who only wants to claim their lands and glory. It is indeed time that natives make it clear now to Igbos - TO YOUR TENTS! There shall be no application for residency or citizenship in other zones for everything will be done to prevent another Nigeria. Take note now and start packing because the ancestral land owners do not want foreigners - they should go to their own land. |
Crash and burn baby! Puppet Minister + Dumb Bottom brain president! ![]() |
Speaking English is definitely NOT a standard for judging literacy or educational levels of a society. I believe in having good knowledge and command of whatever language, including English, but it is not the most important. People speak Chinese, Japanese, French, etc and are just as educated and bright! |
^^^ Hahaha! |
LMAO! When will Nigeria Mossad put a bullet in his empty brains?? |
We were all here when Jonathan played every kind of card to get the presidency - tribal sentiments, religious, pityism (no shoes), zoning is dead, huge promises (floating cities in the Niger Delta, airports in every state, etc), buying people (beaf, Dame's rice distribution, etc), appeasement and buying of state governors by sharing all the dollars in the excess crude account as demanded by the Governor's Forum in order to get their support, dodging every chance to a vigorous debate, buying the "youths" through Dbanj interview, manipulation, rigging of votes with ~100% votes in SE and SS, and of course, RIGGING, RIGGING, RIGGING, etc! In spite of all these, many NLanders rose up to highlight this man's falsity, emptiness, no achievement, corrupt background, etc BUT NIGERIANS decided on TRIBALISM, ETHNICITY, RELIGION, MONEY, RICE, EMPTY PROMISES WITHOUT DEBATE, etc to vote for "fresh air". So, in light of the current issues of subsidy removal and attendant hardships that has now and will be inflicted on everday Nigerians, do you feel for them? Unemployment rate is about to increase by ~ V2 + K and people out of Nigeria may now have to SUBSIDIZE everyday Nigerians! |
Nchara:Yes, that is clear from his post but you don't compare an apple to a watermelon! A 90% of 1 M cannot be compared to 50% of 100 M. It is important to point that out so as to keep things in perspective. |
musKeeto: Musk. . .your analysis is INCOMPLETE. Read the speech again, that 25% is for 2012 ONLY! 25% is insignificant as you pointed out, they steal way more, corner all the major economic means in the country and then a measly 25% removal for 1 YEAR ONLY!? |
One more thing is to factor in the population of the country to get more balanced view of the facts. For example, Equatorial Guinea 700,401 Zimbabwe 12,000,000 . . . South Africa 49,991,300 Kenya 40,512,682 . . Nigeria 158,423,180 This should help to put things in perspective. |
TRUTHTELA:Right-on the money! Shagari's government was just like slow Yaradua's but Jonze-a-thon Goatluck blows both out of the water in stupidity, daftness, cluelessness, corruption and MORE! If any coup blows out this foolish president's brains now, they will be instant heroes because why should 500+ people be sacrificed for this foolish president's dumbness while he gets to eat ~ N 1 Billion Naira food while doing nothing? It is better he is killed immediately! |
Dede1:Dende0. . .were you CURSED with the civil war or what? This discussion has nothing to do with war except that Ebelechuwkumumu deceived SS and SE using your golden weapons , TRIBALISM AND BIGOTRY, to con you into voting him for president! Even dead and sick Yaradua makes your god-president look like a scumbag loser imbecilee! You carry a big chip on your shoulder ruuning off at the mouth about a war you only saw in your horrid dreams! Get off your useless low horse and wake up to reality before you are sold for 1 kobo in that god-forsaken country you and your ilks have run into the ground! |
Here is the solution to a problem like this: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=840782.msg9911750#msg9911750 In a real country, all their leaders will be dead before this news makes it out to the public. Now, they have the time to relocate, regroup and attack again! Jona-daft-a-ton Goatluck is too useless to know what to do to liquidate terrorists and criminals except smiling like a foolishe slowpoke to the cameras! |
Subsidy in 2007 - ~300 B Subsidy in 2011 - ~1,300 B What happened in just 4 years? Mega-corruption! |
Kai! People go suffer and die for this Jonzer Goatluck. Is it not better this cretin president is assassinated and a better man as president than keep sacrificing everyday people who have suffered enough already? I don't pity you people though because you laid your beds this way and you must lie on it! Voting on religion, ethnicity or cutting of your nose to spite your face has gotten you only this far! Goodluck selling your house to buy fuel for transportation Nigerians! |
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