₦airaland Forum

Jonraid:
Choose a metric of your liking and prove that Nigeria has the best banking sector. What of metrics like a banks adaptivity to technology talking of new trends like mobile banking fusion with the traditional banking system.Sophistication is something that Nigeria hasn't masterd yet. Your banking is more traditional and mainly relies on its larger customer base as its main pillar. Without creativity,Kenyan banks would be long dead with them being in a country that is the world's leader in mobile money and banking (we move tens of billions of US dollars through mobile money)and which also potentially has Africa's largest SACCO movement. The Kenya's financial sector is so sophisticated that every player needs to be on toes to get the market pie.With the quick growth of mobile money and SACCOs,I thought Kenyan banks will be edged out,I was wrong! The banks have been resilient even through the rate capping move by the CBK. Do you think that the Nigeria's financial system enjoys such sophistication that would threaten their banks out of business? A simple case like the state of your insurance industry would tell much about your financial sector and the gaps that need to be filled!

Kenya's financial sector isn't more sophisticated than that of Nigeria. Trust me on this one, you don't wanna go there.

rvp2018:
They must have got it wrong otherwise most ranking out there - highly rank Nairobi
1) The University of Nairobi has been ranked position 4 in Africa and first in East Africa in the just released Journals Consortium Ranking
2) QS World University Rankings - ranks Nairobi top 10 in Africa
3) Webometrics ranks UON at no 8

etc etc

l hardly care about ranking sometimes, but covenant university just gets better by the day, they make good research and are one of the top universities in Nigeria when it comes to informatics as well.
Graduates from this university make up a vast majority of the Nigerian tech space.

Ibrahimanis:
Same goes for Japan and US too. Japan banks assets is more than US despite it's smaller population.
Again population does not have much influenced on banks assets.

40b collected from 50m people? Assets is not measured that way.

The guy is very ignorant on these issues but wants to make you believe he knows what he's talking about.

rvp2018:
You need to develop the industry beyond witchcraft. I mean you got huge stories in Niger Delta, Boko haram, Fulani herdsmen killing farmers, and all you do is witchcraft, love potion and all sort of vodooo & juju.

Making a movie or a film should start with writing a serious script - not just arming yourself with cheap camera and tripod - and you go shooting total shitty skits - and claim we got HIGHEST AMOUNT OF SHITMOVIES -after bollywood.

The last few years these are some kenya films considered for Oscars.
Nairobi Half Life - Lupita was star actor before she got discovered by Hollywood. Lupita is probably crossing more money per yr than entire Nollywood
Kati Kati,
Supa Mode
Watu Wote
This year Rafiki (a lesbian move) has won many international awards.

South Africa obviously another story for another decade

People who say Nollywood is mostly about witchcraft just repeat what others say and know little about the nollywood they love to criticize.
Nollywood is broad and for different categories of viewers. lt seems local Africans were more focussed on witchcraft because it was a powerful doctrine among the locals and the old nollywood had to bring that out.
Nigerians are doing things for themselves, and winning their own afro centric Oscars and you are there yapping about a so called Oscar in the West??

isan:
where is group of death? Lol we blow Austria and Slovenia away

l have seen Austria play, we must up our game against them. Dunno about Slovenia.

sufferNsmiling:
NairobiWalker and rvp20183 please you need to understand nigeria's problem nigeria's problem since independence has been that there are just too many illiterate in the country. Today it's a lot worse in the highest point of government you find illiterate all over and when you give an literate a job even if he destroys everything he believes he is the best. You have a country where the people are being destroyed and their future being destroyed they are celebrating. A lot of nigerians will run to another country then they want to lift up nigerian flag in that country but they do not want to go back to nigeria this is there right of illiteracy most nigerians do not even know what they are doing. It is very hard watching my yoruba brothers swimming in illiteracy these days

You said "We East Africans" in one of your post. Why is it important for you to claim Nigeria, and why choose the Yoruba race at that?? You shouldn't be so ashamed of where you come from.

rvp20183:
Igbo movies of withcraft..where are Hausa movies.Same booring storyline.

lt doesn't matter how you classify it or what your taste is when it comes to movies, it is still by far the biggest movie industry in Africa, second largest in the world and the most popular and influential movie industry on the continent.
l for one do not like Nigerian movies, l fancy the village films( l prefer rural and epic movies generally to modern ones).
Also my moniker Daejoyoung is from an epic Korean Tv show dealing with history of Korea's Gogueryeo of old and battles, these are the seies l enjoy even way higher than all Hollywood movies put together ( except perhaps movies like Game of Thrones), but my subjective preference or my dislike is irrelevant to facts that Hollywood is by far a bigger industry than the Korean movie industry, so it is with Nollywood in Africa.

Ibrahimanis:
ABSOLUTELY NOT! you mean build one of the most expensive city worldwide to live in while about 94pct of your rural population are categorized as poor. it's not referred to as Ghost city sometimes for nothing.

That Guy knows nothing. Angola of all places?? Smh.

mtisTheQubit:
yah they are better..askwhy all ths naijas pitching on one bedroom house somewhere in Nairobi..what the freaky are they doing here..or the question is what the hell are they running from ..

For God's sake Nigerians are everywhere, both land and sea, it's nothing new.
There are Nigerians in Damascus( you can check this out yourself), they are in Gambia, Yemen, Afghanistan, etc. lt's nothing to be proud of.

isan:
oshoala won double in 2017 a league and fa cup in 2017 what did Tabitha chawinga win?

Well l agree Oshoala deserved it in 2017, but you know these awards aren't consistently highly based on club performance like in the men's game.
But then let's wait and see.

isan:
in the year under review
oshoala - a league title , a cup final , Awcon trophy , with load of goals
Ebi- she has been massive for her club side in China and won the Awcon trophy to cap the good year she had
what did kgatlana achieve?

ln the men's version you would easily give this to Oshoala but not in the women's game.
Tabitha Chawinga did way better in Sweden than Oshoala(in China) in 2017 and was even ranked way higher than Oshoala amongst the best 100 female footballers in the world.
The Malavwian was amongst the best 30, in a pool where Oshoala ranked 67th, they were the only two Africans on the list, but guess what
Tabitha Chawinga wasn't even considered amongst the Top three in the CAF awards while Kgatlana who did nothing at club level was considered based, on Cosafa women championship alone and South African friendlies in the year 2017.
ln the men's football world, a player like Tabitha Chawinga( just like Aubameyang) would certainly be more popular to Africans than a Kgatlana, but this is not the case in the women's game.

isan:
south Africa won the best team in 2017 not because they are the best they were never the best and will never be but because they are the most active playing a lot of games in 2017 that's why they won it

You are helping me make my point, look closely, they are also the most active in 2018.
My Point is that women's football in Africa has been so neglected by CAF and the various national football bodies to the extent that tournaments like Cosafa, wafu, etc have become important yardsticks for national teams. ln the women's game also, club football is not so readily televised or followed like in the men's game.
Again South Africa has always been the most active African team yearly in the past few years. You can only judge the best for a particular year by the games they play.

isan:
cosafa and the Cyprus tournament performance don't count in this award the matches are like friendlies do u even know kgatlana was no eligible to play in cosafa because she is not home base south Africa broke the rule because they are the host

In 2017, South Africa won the women team of the year( where there was no Awcon), why because of Cosafa.
So tournaments like Cosafa or WAFU may not count in the men's game but unfortunately they do in the women's game.
ln 2018 and even 2017, Malavwian Tabitha Chawinga had a better club performance than Oshoala, but understandably Oshoala would always be ahead of her because Oshoala plays for Nigeria in Awcon tournaments.
So national team assignments are more crucial in the women's game than they are in the men's game.

isan:
oshoala , Ebi and Ordega stand a better chance than kgatlana

How

isan:
Lol cosafa is regional tournament and the Cyprus cup is just like playing friendlies its not an official tournament what did she achieve with her club side where she plays week in week out how many goals ? how many assist ? women if the match ? trophies?

Tournaments like Cosafa and Cyprus cup are very important in the African women football world, especially in years where majority of the teams can go on without playing a single game.
What did Oshoala acheive with Arsenal ladies in 2016? Onome Ebi? why does she deserve to win it ahead of Thembi Kgatlana?
Give me the full stats of Ordega for her club this year as well, and even though Ordega was our best at the AWCON, Kgatlana was more valuable to her South African side in that tournament and was the top scorer.
Also you cannot underestimate the Cyprus cup( friendly or not) and the goal she scored in a crucial win that saw South Africa rise a little in the fifa ranking around June this year.

tlann:
aahhhh that is the bank that Nigerians make noise about how they control kenya banking sector

Ecobank as the name implies is from the Ecowas body. Ecowas is predominantly a Nigerian thing, as you can see the key people there on the Wikepedia page are mostly Nigerians.
But Ecobank doesn't belong to one country, it's for the region Ecowas.
Everything can't be headquartered in Nigeria, because Nigeria though a big brother in Ecowas loves to share responsibilities and does not impose herself on other Ecowas member nations.

isan:
apart from shining in Awcon what did kgalana do all year? Ordega and Ebi has more chances than her

Kgatlana won the Cosafa women championship with South Africa also, again she played in the Cyprus cup and scored one of the goals for South Africa in the game they won( a crucial win that placed them third in a tough group), she was valuable for South Africa in that tournament as they did well. This is in a Calendar Year where Nigeria played only a single friendly game losing 8-0 to Frances.
Thembi Kgatlana now play in the American league and though not as effective as she is in the national colours, she has managed to make herself a key member of the squad.
l'll ask you then, what did Oshoala do for Arsenal ladies in 2016 when she won it?
What has Ebi done apart from the AWCON to deserve it? l know ordega was key for Washington spirit sometime this year, but even then Washington Spirit (and Ordega) haven't been at their best this year like in other years/ seasons.

sufferNsmiling:
Kenya is far in front of nigeria. As a nigerian am telling you this most of my nigerian brothers are just empty vessels add illiteracy to it also add stress to it

You are not a Nigerian, you already claimed to be East African in one of your post. Even your English is Kenyan English. lt is not compulsory you claim the Nigerian identity in order to be heard or sound non biased.

sufferNsmiling:

You are a bloody illiterate all of these rich nigerians destroy the country they stole nigeria dry. Even to make matters worse most of the stolen money is borrowed. You are praising criminals why you are paid the debt for the criminals today. Yes you have a few rich thieves but kenya rich people are hardworking also kenya's wealth goes into infrastructure building. While on the other hand nigeria's wealth goes into building other countries. So you can see how stupid and illiterate you are. 71% of nigerians building factories are building it in other countries. So what good is ur rich nigerians. Nigeria's biggest problem is illiteracy

Kenyan rich people are hardworking?? really?
l normally see politicians listed among richest men in Kenya.

obaaderemi:
This is beneath even your abysmal standard.This is fantastically stu.pid. Stick to economics.

Even the economics sef na problem for the guy, this guy na real case, e nor sabi anything at all.

isan:
oshoala might just win the African best again this award is popularity award and she's the most popular female footballer in Africa right now with many endorsement deals her brands might just buy it for her .

Thembi Kgatlana would win it.

abbeg:
Ok this thread is getting far too long.Kenya,Richer doesn't mean better.take USA for example.there is quite a handful of countries richer than them.some are even more beautiful but please which is the super power?Kenya may have more infastructure but that doesnt mean anything.In Africa who is the most talked about?Nigeria.who is the most interesting?Nigeria.Who has the best selling music?Nigeria.who has the most influence outside Africa?Nigeria.Fact is no one gives a s**t about Kenya no matter how beatiful it may be or how they are building skyscrapers and all that.Some foreigners don't even know if you speak English or not or even if you live in skyscrapers or not,that is how unimportant you are.Just another east African country.Some even mistake you for Somalia!I have a foreign friend and he thought Kenya was at the very horn of Africa.You are just a country natgeo visits when they want to shoot a documentary on animals.Nothing else.So you can go back to listening to your trash music no one understands or watching your movies no one cares about.Who knows,it might be a wizkid song playing right now?NIGERIA'S ONLY COMPETITION IS S.A.

Kenya is not richer than Nigeria, l dunno what you're saying. No one takes you seriously when you say Kenya is richer than Nigeria, richer in what sense?

rvp20183:
provide the figures.Also how do they watch TV without electricity.I have Kenya figures that 3yrs old..we had 4.5m on digital TV with 3.5 on pay TV..we had 65 TV stations and hundreds of radio..we have cable TV from likes of Zuku.

What do you mean without electricity? are you high?

sufferNsmiling:
1 think you'll nigerians are forgetti is I am not a kenya I know nigeria inside out even better than your governors your president and you yourself. Why kenyans cannot hammer you is is because most of them have not stayed in nigeria for long time but somebody like me knows you inside out and we scatter you from inside out

You are a Kenyan, you exposed yourself already so it's pointless denying it.

darfay:
Hahahaha

Nice try


There is no where like that in the University of Lagos abi the place no get name

FYI I know every nook and cranny of Unilag

l've always told you guys, that guy is a Kenyan, he knows nothing about Nigeria. A Nigerian going by the moniker suffersmiling is strange.

olapluto:
It all comes down to fitness and team dynamics. The longer they stay in camp, the fitter they become. Ihezuo plays in UEFA champions league and should be capable. I think the camp should be thrown open from next month. Let every capable player come, and the coach should work with them for a month before choosing.
Players like Osas Igbinovia, or even Aminat Yakubu could find their way in. We need to pick the best players, not the biggest names.

Yeah but rather than Aminat Yakubu, I'd prefer a Joy Bokiri or Tessy Bhaiwo.

mostob:
Ajibade is still not there yet but those players you mentioned were not better at AWCON. I still remember the chance Ihezuo blasted over the bar.Ajibade is good ,though she needs a bit of sharpening.

lhezuo is usually better than that though, she at her youth level like Ajibade was very technical, she was also part of the exciting u20 2014 squad ( with oshoala) and still one of the top scorers at the fifa u17 world cup.
l think the girls only need more friendlies to properly decide who is who.

rvp20183:
You keep repeating this as if Nigeria poor or rich were unique. There are poverty measures that objectively captures poverty whether in desert or forest or iceland or nigeria, rural or urban, nomadic or farming. The most accepted is 1 (absolute poverty) & 2 dollar(poverty) spending per day per person - they don't have to spend a dollar or two - but their total spending or consumption should be equivalent to that. On that measure alone more than 60% Nigerians cannot afford - to spend 2 dollars - with those suffering extreme poverty at 67M or about.

And l keep telling you this doesn't make any sense because of the purchasing power and currency deviation in all countries. The Ghanian Cedis was almost useless a decade ago, but they removed so many zeros and today we have only 4 Ghanian Cedis to a dollar, while Kenya has 100 shillings to a dollar, using your analysis we now have so many richer Ghanians compared to the Kenyans, l'm sure you agree with this.
So while it is true that currency is used as a yardstick with the Americans using the dollar, there are whole communities in Africa depending solely on farm produce and they own their lands(especially in Nigeria), they are poor by our standard, but they measure themselves by their livestock and food produce.
lf you know, you know.

Kur17:
While Nigerians are the poorest people on Earth, capital of poverty,
Almost 90m extremely poor people and still going strong

This is just mere propangada from western media, thesame western media that tells you Nigeria has the largest economy in Africa as well as the 3rd richest city on the continent? lt doesn't add up my friend, just think about it.
ln Warri for instance ( an oil city) there are so many middle class Nigerian millionaires ( in Naira) who live well in decent buildings and send their kids to the UK or Nigerian and Ghanian private schools.
Also, there are so many silent millionaires in another city called Nnewi, which even your western media can attest to, ( we aren't even talking about places like Abuja, Lagos or PortHarcourt here).
Some months ago, the Nigerian finance body spoke about including in tax payments, thousands of privately owned businesses in Lagos alone( worth millions of dollars) not currently under the tax class, to support Government revenue.
l know for a fact Nigeria is definitely rich, there are so many poor people in Southern Nigeria, but their numbers just do not add up to make Nigeria the poorest nation in the world.
As for the northerners, many whom we see as poor are just farmers whose lifestyles( or way of living) we do not understand.
So calling Nigeria( as a nation) poor or rich is quiet complex.

Ifiokumo:
So basically Easterners/and the supposedly South-south won...

This is not the politics section.

Dedetwo:
I had to disagree with you on the number players the coach called up for camp as a slight indication of goofiness.

l know he called up 48 players to camp, which is also about 50 players( considering l was replying to this exact figure from a previous post) and of course doesn't take anything away from our point, or does it?
Afterall the guy whom l quoted above and who expressed his worry that Dennerby could call up 50 players, knew he called up 48 the last time, and the number 50 was for emphasis, since 48 is almost 50( the round figure).
lt's nothing to debate about, only an indication of a slight misunderstanding on your part.

olapluto:
Looking at this analytically, I will love to have Florence back, but she needs to upgrade the team's defensive play. Dennerby is not as good as Omagbemi. However, NFF will respect Dennerby more due to his skin colour.
I feel it will take Dennerby at least 5 or 6 friendly matches to really know his players. For now, he only trusts about 16 players and keeps repeating them. When he knows the team, he could help us, but we dont expect attacking football. [b]His is to soak up pressure and win by a goa[/b]l.

The problem is that we are not used to seeing falcons soak up pressure in Africa. The Dennerby tactic may be good for us against more clinical teams at the world cup, but this is Africa for fvck sake, we are used to super falcons dominating African teams in constant offensive play, not depending on long balls.