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Diavolo:Me sef l come dey wonder for the guy analysis. l mean is it thesame game l'm watching? |
Cosafa women championship update.. Cameroon 8 :1 Mozambique |
Naturalle:Actually it goes both ways, if you just train people without providing the necessary infrastructure like a good transport network, effective broad band/internet speed, and Power( most especially), then you would have many frustrated by the Nigerian system. Education is paramount, but education alone do not create home grown investors in the private sector. There is of course, what we call the ease of doing business which is also paramount. We do not pay our taxes in Naija for the Government to just train people, we pay taxes for them to provide and maintain basic amenities. Even the private investors like Dangote feel the effects of lack of infrastructure like power and rail all the time. |
EternalTruths:You are contradicting yourself actually, people migrate to Lagos because of the ports. Also Lagos ( a former capital of Nigeria) is still the financial center of the country. Frankfurt remains a suitable destination in Germany as the financial powerhouse of Germany, but Germans in even lesser cities( for lack of a better word) like Alle or Gottingen, would never be in a hurry to migrate to Frankfurt, because the Mayors in those state/ cities have also provided the necessary infrastructure needed for the masses to carry out their business or live out their dreams. Even the education you speak about as a form of empowerment is part of infrastructure, you need good classrooms and standard engineering equipment in schools, labs and technical schools. |
EternalTruths:The truth is Nigeria already have many entrepreneual citizens and the basis for a good private sector, we are 180 million people, these countries are small but also have corrupt African leaders impeding growth e.g Togo and Cameroon. lvorycoast and Benin republic would have to free themselves from the cfa currency and the shackles of Frances. |
EternalTruths:Government must play their part as well by providing some basic necessities such as power, effective transport system across the nation, a good broad brand, etc. These things aid businesses and even the ease of doing business. |
Jaqenhghar:l am not a zombie, but what you wrote up there is pure bullshit. You need infrastructure such as power, rails, good roads, mass housing, health and educational facilities to grow the economy and also the people ( the middle class and the poor especially). |
sufferNsmiling:Are there Ghanian or Kenyan forums? l never knew. |
ChrisKels:Perhaps giving him a feel of the national team, thereby grooming him as a possible major replacement for Mickel Obi. Perhaps Rohr is thinking future here. l know he isn't ready and doesn't play in a top club yet but in time to come, a matured Nwakali at his best could easily become Nigeria's new playmaker. |
TayserMahiri:Tayser Tayser l have no time for this, my point has been made clear, while malls can be easily used to gauge a favourable middle class(it's not the major indices like you Kenyans would have yourselves believe here), the number of malls in a city do not necessarily indicate it's development because malls are already the normal way of life in Europe and the advanced world but some parts of Europe are not as classy as some areas of Nigeria with fewer malls. Neither do those parts have more classy citizens as well. l never said the markets in Nigeria are( or must be) dirty and crowded, my point was that at 3a.m, the city is still buzzing, l know you have a problem with comprehension. l also do not think Kenyans have a more sophisticated middle class than you find in Nigeria. But the fact that you measure this with the taste for shopping malls( which is not a big deal) is what l find interesting, if anything that's a primitive mentality/ thinking. Malls are not scarce in Nigeria too, they are not just used in the context of this arguement as a measure of development. l have seen on this website, private investors setting up malls, but it is never viewed as a sign of advancement, when you see it that way you come across to me as primitive. This is why when you list shoprite and the likes as major businesses, it's quiet weird. |
TayserMahiri:Achso, maybe l don't live in an urban setting though. l thought malls were just normal stuffs, when did it become a mark of development like industries, railways, buildings? To me, it's just like saying because you have many Hotels in your city hence it's a developed city, while Hotels and Malls are indicators of wealth and good life, to me it doesn make a city more advanced than the other compared to infrastructure, and attractive spots around a city, for example what makes Munich or Frankfurt more classy than say Chemnitz, is not the number of malls, because Chemnitz ( a lowly city in Germany) is still lit with malls as is almost all of Germany. Although l like malls, l would have preferred 60% malls and 40% small scale shopping. l miss that part too, l wouldn't want my dream city ( say Eko Atlantic for instance) to be literred with malls like you find in Europe, and then by 9pm they are all closed ( especially in Germany), when in Lagos Apapa for instance, you can wake up by 3am to buy your akara, and even meet a crowd outside. |
68816419:l keep asking them if Kenya is such a business hub and well diversified as they claim, where are their investments in Africa? For instance l know there are Nigerian banks in Kenya, but how many Kenyan banks do we have in West, Central and Southern Africa, how many Kenyan business men / women are investing outside Kenya with their headquarters in Nairobi? |
Kur17:But Nairobi is not even a major trade center in Africa, and even has no gdp, you are just a clown, l would not continue on this argument with you, because like the other rvp guy you'll end up wasting my time and wasting pages, just believe what you want, at least everyone can see how ignorant you guys are, it's pathetic actually. |
Kur17:Only Kenyans see shopping malls as development, you guys need orientation seriously. |
rvp2018:lt's fourth busiest port of course, and it's a major port in East Africa , Nigeria is surrounded by the likes of Niger and Chad, and even within Nigeria the business activities are majorly focussed in the South, and yet the North is more populated. Nigeria however should be having more than 3 major ports in Africa. |
nwoke37:That one shouldn't be taken seriously at all. |
gallivant:World trade Centers in Africa Algeria..Algiers Angola...Luanda Egypt....Cairo Mauritius..Port Luis Senegal....Dakar South Africa....Johannesburg .....Cape town Nigeria........ Lagos .............Abuja https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org |
gallivant:Those so called multinational companies are mostly there because of the kibera situation, many of them are just there for nothing and not helping Kenyan FDI in any way. What are the top brands from Kenya in this continent, if what you say is true, you struggle to even list companies from Kenya in other parts of Africa apart from Safaricom. l gave a list sometime ago of all business districts or trade Centers in the world, and Kenya is no where to be found there, your Nairobi is not there. There are two cities from only Nigeria and SA. Then there is Cairo, Maputo, Dakar, Luanda. |
rvp2018:lol all of your counties put together do not have a budget as big as that of Lagos with over l trillion naira and yet we know it is a major trade city with many untaxed businesses. Nairobi is not even considered as a major trade center district in Africa.,you little lndians are quiet funny. |
68816419:The clown who calls himself rvp2018 believes Kenya can easily pay the 50 Billion dollars debt back, because they have a GDP of 80Billion dollars ![]() The 80 Billion dollars GDP is the reason lenders trust them with such high loans according to the comedian. |
rvp2018:Oga Brazil's agriculture is about 500 Billion dollars and that of Nigeria at it's apex was nothing more than 180Billion dollars if you say 40%, Brazil's agriculture at 23% in 2017 is already bigger than Nigeria's GDP, so what the hell are you ranting about? At the moment agriculture in Nigeria is 18%( value added % gdp only) and is 50-60Billion dollars( using your value added percent gdp) and that of Brazil is slightly higher at 5%( using value added %) this doesn't make Nigerian agriculture close to that of Brazil, because the total% GDP of agriculture in Brazil is already at least 3-4 times that of Nigeria and even bigger than the Nigerian GDP as a whole presently. |
rvp2018:Oga he was talking about the whole industry of agriculture in Brazil which is 20% and about 584 Billion dollars ( already bigger than the entire Nigerian gdp), he wasn't talking about % value added tax of agriculture in Brazil which is 5%, you are the one bringing that here because you 've been cornered and you are a professional when it comes to straw man arguements. Simply admit you were wrong about Nigerian agriculture competing with that of Brazil and give it up. |
l'm beginning to have a feeling most of these guys here are not Kenyans but lost Nigerians who can't find their way back home from Kibera except Prolly a few like Tayser and mtis. |
sufferNsmiling:Hmm na two of una kukuma fit each oda before. |
rvp2018:. Yemi Kale is the Statistician General of the National Bureau of Statistics of Nigeria.[1] Under his tenure, the GDP of Nigeria was recalculated, and following the recalculation, declared the largest GDP in Africa.[2] Kale assumed office in 2011,[3] and was reappointed in 2016 making him the first chief executive in the Agency's history to serve two terms as statistician general. Kale is also a member of the boards of Skye Bank and SFS Capital Nigeria Limited. Before assuming office Kale acted as a special adviser to the Nigerian Minister of Finance and Minister of National Planning as well as group head of research and strategy at Investment Banking and Trust Company, now Stanbic IBTC Bank[4] In addition, Kale is a member of the World Economics Association, UK Royal Economic Society, and a fellow of the UK Royal Statistical Society.[4] He is also a fellow of the Nigerian Statistical Association and a fellow of the Institute of Chartered Administrators and Researchers of Nigeria among others. At The National Bureau of the Statistics he has been applauded by both Nigerian and foreign observers from his reforms in the data process which many believe has restored sanity to the data production process in Nigeria. Kale is commended for introducing methodology updates, some decades old, using modern technology such as Computer Assisted Personal Interview Devices to gather data and improving platforms for data dissemination including a data portal, upgraded website and App and the use of infographics to make data easily understandable by users. Under him timeliness of data, data quantity and quality has been greatly enhanced and data credibility improved significantly. He is highly regarded for his fierce refusal to tamper with data or rejection of the politicization of data which has gained him recognition from both pro and anti governments stakeholders as well as the international community. In August 2016 he declared that Nigeria"a economy had entered into a recession, the first time in 25 years. Kale was awarded the National Productivity Order of Merit for outstanding performance, professionalism and diligence in February 2017 by the Nigerian President Muhammad Buhari. |
rvp2018:lf you are really concerned about this GDP thing, go field your questions to Yemi Kale, on their website or Social media, the man is not shy of answering questions, and from my research the man seems to be well respected internationally and a sound world class technocrat. Good luck. |
Dr. Yemi Kale is the Statistician General of the National Bureau of Statistics of Nigeria.[1] Under his tenure, the GDP of Nigeria was recalculated, and following the recalculation, declared the largest GDP in Africa.[2] Kale assumed office in 2011,[3] and was reappointed in 2016 making him the first chief executive in the Agency's history to serve two terms as statistician general. Kale is also a member of the boards of Skye Bank and SFS Capital Nigeria Limited. Before assuming office Kale acted as a special adviser to the Nigerian Minister of Finance and Minister of National Planning as well as group head of research and strategy at Investment Banking and Trust Company, now Stanbic IBTC Bank[4] [b]In addition, Kale is a member of the World Economics Association, UK Royal Economic Society, and a fellow of the UK Royal Statistical Society.[4] He is also a fellow of the Nigerian Statistical Association and a fellow of the Institute of Chartered Administrators and Researchers of Nigeria among others. At The National Bureau of the Statistics he has been applauded by both Nigerian and foreign observers from his reforms in the data process which many believe has restored sanity to the data production process in Nigeria. Kale is commended for introducing methodology updates, some decades old, using modern technology such as Computer Assisted Personal Interview Devices to gather data and improving platforms for data dissemination including a data portal, upgraded website and App and the use of infographics to make data easily understandable by users. Under him timeliness of data, data quantity and quality has been greatly enhanced and data credibility improved significantly. He is highly regarded for his fierce refusal to tamper with data or rejection of the politicization of data which has gained him recognition from both pro and anti governments stakeholders as well as the international community. In August 2016 he declared that Nigeria"a economy had entered into a recession, the first time in 25 years. Kale was awarded the National Productivity Order of Merit for outstanding performance,[/b] professionalism and diligence in February 2017 by the Nigerian President Muhammad Buhari. |
gallivant:Noble price winner in what?? peace. ok congrats. |
rvp2018:So export now determines GDP, for two countries with a huge difference in consumption, demand and population, and yet you think 60 billion worth of exports to 80 billion is not significant considering that?just let it rest and don't bother quoting me anymore because you are a clear ignoramus, worst case is that you even think you are knowledgeable. You made it clear in your previous post, no one would investigate Nigeria because it's Nigeria afterall, it means no one cares about Africa then because Nigeria is the biggest economy in Africa. l have told you, believe what you want as you have a right to your opinion. The stats on the ground do not agree with you, when they do then we talk. |
rvp2018:. ok then, the debate is meaningless, since no one takes your strange views seriously, until you can forward your illogical claims to the bodies that matter, it's just your belief which you are entitled to and which is irrelevant, so arguing this is pointless. However l can state officially anywhere about Nigeria being Africa's largest economy and no team of Economic experts anywhere would challenge me, but for you, you can't present your views beyond the pages of Nairaland and the walls of your bedroom. So yours for now is mere beer parlour talk. No sane Economist would believe that Nigeria's Economy is the size of Algeria( and it defies common logic even), so why should your opinion matter? that you believe such tells me l'm wasting my time here. |
rvp2018:2003-2013, we had more than 4 dollar Billionaire,( about 6, because of the higher exchange rate then) and Lagos have 9100 dollar multi millionares to Cairo's 10200 and Johannesburg's 18000( according to the 2017 data). My point is that it was a period of Economic growth, but draconian capitalism based on corruption and a neglect of infrastructure, and about all the dollar Billionaires came from that era. Before this economic growth and the eventual rebasing, we were at 170Billion dollars already in the Abacha era( the GDP of current Algeria, a country less diversified in terms of trading and services and less populated than we are, with an even less developed oil sector than Nigeria). So it doesn't make sense that with all the capitalist reforms of Obasanjo ( though unequal) and with the opening up of the economy and the privatisation that occurred from 2001, that we would remain at 170 Billion dollars, we actually grew at an average of 6-7% down to 2014 in addition to the oil and agricultural boom. So tell me what else do you know about Nigeria? oga Minister of lnformation, l ready for you today. |
rvp2018:We all know Nigeria grew at a rate of 6-7% from 2003- 2013 on the average, but the growth was non inclusive, there were more Billionaires from this period but great inequality from the high rate of capitalism at the Obasanjo era increasing the level of poverty, so there's nothing special about this data. You don't even know what you're quoting, the statistic there, is no evidence of fake GDP figure but evidence of inequality and a surprise at the level of corruption. Try as much as possible to understand your links and the points they are passing across. |
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. You've got jokes. I am going to hazard a guess that when real GDP of LAGOS is finally computed - it's will be about the same as Nairobi or slightly higher. Nairobi is definitely better than lagos is so many matrix - the pictures says a thousand words.
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