₦airaland Forum

Demdem: Am an advocate of regional govt u should know that. However, because the status quo favours some privileged peeps, we are stuck. Only a leader with balls can rescue us.
As it is now, enugu can't export its coal to the outside world independently likewise other states with resources.

maybe you do not understand me...what I am saying is that Enugu should not be exporting or exploring coal...there is a family, person or community that onws the lan where coal is located...they should be the ones doing that....
so it doesnt matter weather the political structure is eastern regonal gopvernment or enugu state government...the man exploiting the coal pays his taxes to his lga....and so on...
How simple can it get?

omonnakoda: Actually it is not free and it is not shared. Otherwise most of us won't be here on NL wasting time.But all Nigerians have a right to compete for it.

so if i find gold in my compound...everybody should compete for it...an you dont have a fundamental problem with that...?
Your sense of justise is ok with that?

Demdem: Look, I have discussed this issue with u before.
Until we go back to regional govts or the retardeen commence the disintegration process to break up this entity, there is nothing u all can do. The oil belongs to all the way other resources from other parts of the country belongs to all.
That is the basis of our togetherness. What the constitution states.

What wrong with the states? what stops states from comming together to form an association?
even so, what has regoinal government got to do with a man tilling his farm or drilling an oil well in his land?

whats wrong if we allow people to exploit their own resources and pay tax?
why must the FG manage oil, coal, or any mineral deposit?
Its really funny men...

Demdem: Basically, all major tribes have appreciable access to our collective wealth and not not strictly a northern thing.

I will never understand this concept of collective wealth..i swear?
This concept that there is free money for all to be enjoyed is really astonishing

Look, this story doest show the whole story, and its quite an appology that an educated man will choose to tackle issues at the surface only....very shamefull...

Let me ask : At what poit will it be possible for southeners to own 83% of the arable farmland in the North....
There have to be two conditions for this to happen..
1-Nationalisation of all farm lands to be run by the federal government
2-Several years of domination of federal power by southeners...

In any normal settings the natives should be majority controling the businesses and all associated activities...but in Nigeria you would find pinches of Ijaws and other SSeners and everyone, especially the SWers and Nothers are ok with this....
I maintain that the strugle fopr this oil is what is causing our downfall.

ogugua88: [size=13pt]Who said it died? Lol.

Anyway, 10/10 for the video. I love the picture frame concept. Something fresh from him [/size]

10/10 is totally wrong,
I wuld give it 20/10

Omo_Tier1: Stop acting stupid! You do not decide the size of the roof of a house before you know the sizes of the rooms in it. Power generation and distribution go hand in hand. Of what use is a power transmission line if there is no power to even transmit?

Nigerians are fed up of being told the devils in the details. Just give them stable light and let them pay reasonable amount. So many have been born and lived their entire life in several countries and they never knew how the light in their house was generated and distributed. All they cared about is the charges they incur.

[size=18pt]GIVE NIGERIANS STABLE ELECTRICITY AND STOP THE NOISE![/size]

This was the exact same foolishness that lead Bola Ige to promise fixing NEPA in six months...as we know the guy failed woefully...
Here is a Guy GEJ, who is systematically untangling the issues that have been preventing us from experiencing constant power supply and who prefer that the masses should not follow the progres being made.

GenBuhari: [size=13pt]Iam seriously impressed by Innoson Motors, I had just assumed that those SUVs were imported

I seriously duff my hat to Nigerians' resilence!!

But why is govt trying to take credit for the success of private company?

Although it is good that govt seems to be patronising the company by ordering police vehicles
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If a company packs up and leaves Nigeria, we are quick to blame the government for not creating the environment, so on the flip side, if a company decides to stay put in the country and carry out its business we should be quick to praise the government!

ypzilanti: My brother, imagine the level of hatred. Comparing Massob to Boko Haram. So OPC is Boko Haram too, and Arewa youth is Boko Haram? I knew the guy was a rabid tribal fool, but now he has become a paranoid genocide apostle too.

Thinking back now, all Hitler did to the human race...he had cronicled in his book many years earlier....if only the world had taken note of his writtings and his books, the world may not have lost so many souls....
Just imagin someone like bluetooth, becoming president of nigeria or commander of an army unit or a police unit?

lacasa: Haters or better still, the 40laptops and those who are in constant fear of performers have invaded this thread

One unifying factor this pictures have is that all the players there are Performers past and present

We Have ; -

Buhari = outright Performer

BRF = Performer

Sanusi Lamido = Performer

Al-makura = too early to evaluate

Dankwambo = silent performer

Nasir el-rufai = the Bulldozer performer (made Abuja wat it is)

Bakare = original ruffler of fake pastors and CAN (pdp branch) *performer*


While on the other hand, wen it comes to GEJ's clique we have; -

GEJ - corrupt, clueless and a militant

Alameiseigha - International fugitive, thief, bukerer,n gun-runner

Otedola - Bribe giver, thief

Tompolo, Ateke tom, Orubebe, Edwin Clark - CORRUPT criminals, Bunkerers, Militants, Terrorists, gun-runners, kidnnappers and savage rascals.


Hehehe!!.... Give me APC anyday

Sai ma 2015!!!

See your guy swearing to God that nobody intefered in his work

DaLover: which version of the story does one believe,
the one where he swore to God that there was no interferance or the one where he say the VP was contantly interfering with his Job

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVOA5ivRrxE

Compare that video with what he wrote in his book

~Bluetooth:
Well if killing the trouble - makers will make Nigeria safe,then kill them all afterall boko members too are Nigerians and they got killed for making troubles.

Wow!!
I alway knew there was some haterate but not at this level...
This is new!!
I am speachless!!

This man has been at the fore front of critisizing GEJ...
I have always thought he is doing so because he is missing his access to oil revenues...
I think this book attempt solidifies by stance on him.

Billyonaire: I do not feel that Hell-Rufai is lying, I am not a fan of Hell-Rufai but no one can perfectly tell lies in such volumes, Hell-Rufai might be a radical bad loser but truth is, most of what he has written will startle the political landscape and reposition Nigeria in a better light. I have problem understanding why there are lots of APC members surrounding him, the book does come in a timely fashion to separate the chaff from the rice. Atiku's political career is finally over with this assertions, so is Hell-Rufai's cos no one aligns with a rat.

Billonaire, El-rufai goofed big time,
see the vieo I posted, shows the kind of man he is

DaLover: which version of the story does one believe,
the one where he swore to God that there was no interferance or the one where he say the VP was contantly interfering with his Job

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVOA5ivRrxE

which version of the story does one believe,
the one where he swore to God that there was no interferance or the one where he say the VP was contantly interfering with his Job

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVOA5ivRrxE

Too many factors to consider, times are not the same...
In yekinis time countries like Togo, Benin or Bukinafaso where being whooped regularly by super eagles, but now 9jan are scared when we hear these names, everybody level of football has improved drastically as they all have their players in europe and beyond...
Yekini may have had a much easier ride, plus he had some of the most confident midfielders behind him in the day...

Though it is still early days for Eminike sha

Does anybody know what fundamental policies the party stands for?

Are they for more govt or less govt, liberal or conservative? more central control or less, federalism or what?

or
are they a
Get that oil money at all cost gathering?

ono: What you forget is that it takes time to clean out the aegean stables. If you rush hot food, it will burn your throat and harm you in the end. You see, I'm beginning to have a rethink about Jonathan's tactics. Maybe he truly needs to be slow after all. Maybe, just maybe he needs to bring back some of those yesterday's men (Anenih and co) so just that they may stew in their own juice.

Correcting what was done wrong in the past takes patience, tactics, skills and intelligence. Perhaps that's what Jonathan is up to - I just wish it is. Facing the corruption problems head on in Nigeria will be suicidal - even for a sitting president. I have realised that now. Corruption permeates every facet of our existence. Corruption is Nigeria and Nigeria is corruption. Trying to change things the way they are now will be met with a brickwall - especially from those who are benefitting from the present state of affairs. And those benefitting, my dear, they are strong and many. They're very powerful indeed.

This write up by Abati must have been endorsed by Jonathan. He played safe - and he was wise in doing that! It is clear, the reasons why Jonathan has so many opposition in government. It is clear why he allowed old people to be in government. It is also clear now that he's doing his best not just for the Niger Delta, but for the country as whole. I can only wish him goodluck (his name) as he tries to right the wrongs of the past.

This is why I normally say that those that blindly criticize GEJ have either never being in a position of authority or are being mischievous, pursuing justice cost resources, pursuing the powerful ones is even more demanding, considering the slim resources at hand, the book haram issue and the many nfrastructure to be built, justice will have to be slow for now.

ono: What you forget is that it takes time to clean out the aegean stables. If you rush hot food, it will burn your throat and harm you in the end. You see, I'm beginning to have a rethink about Jonathan's tactics. Maybe he truly needs to be slow after all. Maybe, just maybe he needs to bring back some of those yesterday's men (Anenih and co) so just that they may stew in their own juice.

Correcting what was done wrong in the past takes patience, tactics, skills and intelligence. Perhaps that's what Jonathan is up to - I just wish it is. Facing the corruption problems head on in Nigeria will be suicidal - even for a sitting president. I have realised that now. Corruption permeates every facet of our existence. Corruption is Nigeria and Nigeria is corruption. Trying to change things the way they are now will be met with a brickwall - especially from those who are benefitting from the present state of affairs. And those benefitting, my dear, they are strong and many. They're very powerful indeed.

This write up by Abati must have been endorsed by Jonathan. He played safe - and he was wise in doing that! It is clear, the reasons why Jonathan has so many opposition in government. It is clear why he allowed old people to be in government. It is also clear now that he's doing his best not just for the Niger Delta, but for the country as whole. I can only wish him goodluck (his name) as he tries to right the wrongs of the past.

This is why I normally say that those that blindly criticize GEJ have either never being in a position of authority or are being mischievous, pursuing justice cost resources, pursuing the powerful ones is even more demanding, considering the slim resources at hand, the book haram issue and the many nfrastructure to be built, justice will have to be slow for now.

anulaxad: please the Nigerian government itself admitted to making 150 billion pounds last year just in oil profits alone.

And this IS from those corrupt nigga's. SO work out how much we could really earn in oil profits and work out twenty percent of how much you worked OUT and ADD IT to the grand total,AND THAT WILL GIVE AN INSIGHT HOW MUCH NIGERIA ACTUALLY EARNS.

If it is not to much work, can you please show us where the Nigerian government admitted to making $150b from oil, I really would like to see ur source of info

anulaxad: IT SEEMS ILLITERACY IS BITING THE YOU DOWN.

SO IT CANNOT BE FIXED IS WHAT YOUR SAYING.

SIMPLE INFRASTRUCTURE DATING.

LET ME LEAVE YOU TO CONTINUE YOUR STUPIDITY.

MR.MAN I AM OUT.

I HAVE WORK.

I sincerely hope you exhibit a lot more intelligence at your place of work!

anulaxad: WHO ON EARTH IS THIS ********.

YOUR HAVE ****** PISSED MY DAY OFF.*****************************

YOU ARE A MERE DEMON AND SURELY WILL NOT GET FAR.
DID JONATHAN HIMSELF FORCE YOU TO TYPE THE DISTURBING CRAP YOU JUST SPEWED OUT.

HEAR YOURSELF,I MEAN YOU SAY NIGERIA MAKES THIS CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY A DAY FROM OIL PROFITS WHICH I CHOOSE TO DISBELIEVE,BUT DO YOU KNOW 20% OF WHAT NIGERIA EARNS A YEAR IS FROM OTHER NATURAL RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE.


YOUR BRAIN NEEDS TO BE FURNISHED NOT EVEN GHANA MAKES 91 BILLION DOLLARS.

TOO MUCH YO YO BEATERS.

Pleas show me how you arrive at your figures? I have seen you throw different figures around, I hope they are not wild guesses,
From he link I sent above, Nigeria's budget in 2010 was about $23 billion!

If you are not armed with facts about what we earn as a country then you like many other ignorant Nairalanders may be expecting progress faster than it can be achieved....either that or you know the truth but choose to lead many willing empty barrels astray...in that case it wold be pure evil on your part

eggheaders: just let the fool be.his stupidity is beyond redemption.

Please how much does Brasil earn, what's her population?
How much does UAE earn, what's her population

I have shown you that nigeria earns approximately $90 billion annually( and this is being very generous)

Check this link on government budgets and heir expenses, notice the relative positions of nigeria to Dubai and Brasil.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_government_budgets_by_country

Thanks

anulaxad: PLEASE STOP RIGHT THERE, CAMEROON IS WORTH 26 BILLION DOLLARS WHILE YOUR SO UNJUSTIFIED CLAIM SAYS NIGERIA MAKES 91 BILLION RIGHT THE SAME CAMEROON THAT IS DEVELOPING THE FASTEST IN CENTRAL AFRICA OUT OF WHAT FUNDS.

IT JUST SHOWS THE LEVEL OF INTELLIGENCE.

I WILL BORROW A COMMENT FROM AN EARLIER POST I SAID.

NIGERIA HAS NOT EVER BEEN RECESSION SINCE OIL WAS FOUND.

YET THE UK WHICH EARNS MONEY FROM THE COMMONWEALTH AND SOVEREIGN MONARCH OWNED STATES JUST ENDED IT'S RECESSION NOT THAT LONG AGO.


NIGERIA IS EXTREMELY RICH AND I CANNOT STRESS IT OUT ENOUGH. JUST READ MY LAST POST.

Guy stop pretending to be dumb, it isn't funny,
I just did a rough calculation of how much the FG earns, where did you get $250billion from, or you hunk the CBN can print money anytime they feel like.

anulaxad: THANK YOU,


MR. JMAINE

IF I WAS IGNORANT WHY DID I ANSWER YOUR MORONIC POST YOU POSTED EARLIER,IT DOES SHOWS THAT I AM DEALING WITH AN ILLITERATE PDP PAID OR NOT.

BEING A DEVELOPED COUNTRY DOES NOT MEAN YOU WITH BEAR THE TITLE DEVELOPED YOU CUUNT.

IF A COUNTRY DEVELOPS ITSELF FAST,THEY BECOME A NEWLY INDUSTRIALIZED COUNTRY FOR ONE OR TWO YEARS THEN THEY GET THE TITLE DEVELOPED.OR IF IT IS A HUGELY POPULATED COUNTRY LIKE CHINA IT MAY TAKE A FEW YEARS UNTIL THEY BEAR THE DEVELOPED TITLE.

Research Czech republic,or philippines or CHINA or even Malaysia. AND YOU WILL BE SO SURPRISED TO SEE WHAT WHAT TITLES THESE COUNTRIES BARED BEFORE AND AFTER A YEAR OF JUST STRONG DEVELOPMENT.AND TO MAKE THINGS EVEN WORSE THOSE countries don't even earn half of what Nigeria earns a year(INCLUDING CHINA). THE NIGERIAN ECONOMY IS JUST WORTH AROUND 256 BILLION US DOLLARS,YET NIGERIA LAST YEAR EARNED NEARLY UP TO 150 BILLION UK POUNDS IN OIL PROFITS(recorded by the Nigerian government)JUST ALONE.
SO JUST IMAGINE HOW MUCH WE REALLY EARN INCLUDING ALL THE MONEY STOLEN FROM CORRUPTION AND OTHER RESOURCES NIGERIA SELL.


YOU ARE AN UTTER DISGRACE TO NIGERIANS,AND YOUR HEARTLESSNESS TO YOUR FELLOW NIGERIANS IS REALLY SAD. READ THE ECONOMIST EDITION OF MAY LAST YEAR.THAT MIGHT GIVE YOU A BIT OF INSIGHT OF WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.OR JUST TRY AND READ YOUR AVERAGE NIGERIAN NEWSPAPER.

Gross misuse of Internet

eggheaders: the guy made reference to materials on his point and gave a detail studies he carried out.and all your dumb head could spew is insult.how many years did it take to transform dubai and oda gulf enclaves.moronic soul like u can't stop reasoning with their as.ses.

It took exactly 11 months and 15 days to complete Dubai, not even a complete year....
Jesus Christ! Are you for real?

A lot of people Seam to think we are very rich, they do not realize how poor we are, and how little the moeny we generate can achieve at one go

@2.5 million barrels per day, and $100 per barrel,
In a year, we should earn 2.5million X 100 X 365 or $91billion (cost of production not considered)
Of his total, the FG keeps about $40billion, the states and he LGs share the rest.

I googled 'cost of road constructions' and I came up with the an average of $30million per 4lane km of road.
The east west road is bout 300km, and at this rate would cost 300km X $30million or $9billion(I did not include additional cost for numerous bridges or Niger delta terrain)

From a miserly $40billion a year the FG is expected to actually perform magic, pay salaries, subsidize university education, health, subsidize your Nepa, build our rail lines, build power plants, maintain refineries, universities, pay salaries for over 700,000 thousand federal workers, pay pensions, repair and maintain airports....the list is endless

Now lets go back to the example of roads...I know there is a difference between construction of roads and rehabilitation of existing roads, but you have to agree with me that many of the road begging for attention almost require full reconstruction...but for argument sake let say we use a reduced figure of $15million for a 4 lane km highway(I assumed most of the FG trunk are 4 lane roads, I may be wrong)
I don't know the total km of Nigerian roads, google couldn't help me here, but I will safely say that at least 5000 km of roads require urgent attention.
The total cost for his would be 5000km X 15 million or 75billion dollars....

Thus with an annual budget of $40b, you have roads of $75b to fix.
If you decide to dedicate $10b yearly to road construction, it would take 7years for roads bad right now, remember other roads will come up for attention as time goes on.....


We are very poor, people need to have this at he back of their minds when commenting

jp philips: my price is common sense,

one yr price forecast for oil for 2013 is $110/bbl
price today for crude is $95.96.

take average of $100/bbl (citeris paribus)

export = 2.5mbbl/day
JV ownership = 60%
other earnings = 40% of total earning.

do the maths now

The 60%/40% doesn't exactly work like that, for each barrel sold for $100, royalties of about $70 is paid to FG, $30 is then shared 60%/40% in Favour of the FG, i.e $12 goes to the IOC's. this $12 is then subjected to prevailing tax conditions.
Hence the FG will make at least $90 from a $100 sale. I have not factored in cost of production

taharqa: Yes OBJ left more than $60billion in our Foreign Reserves b4 he left (though he had negotiatd d removal of $10billion for the NIPP projects just b4 leaving). A huge chunck of d money (more than $20billions was removd during d 3 yrs of Yar'adua who didnt do much during his time as I hv always said here); to be fair to Yar'adua, it was during his time dat d 2008-2009 World economic crisis happend such that parts of d fund was usd to augment d Money shard by d Federation and also to defend d Naira by Sanusi's CBN, although he also allowd State Governors to pressurise him to 'share' out sm of d moneys for their own 'urgent state projects'. This trend continued unfortunately briefly unda GEJ until middle of 2011 when d decline in d Reserve's value was reversd and it began to increase again. The Reserves and the Excess Crude fund for instance both increasd from about $32billion and $4.5billion at d beginning of 2012 to about $44.6billion and $9.6billion respectively within dat one yr period and is still increasing ($1billion was also set aside for d critical SWF fund within d same period). Questns needs to be askd about what ALL d monies drawn from d Account during d 3 yrs of Yar'adua and the 1st yr of GEJ were usd for both in d Federal but also in d State and LGA levels, still this is d FULLER stori...

I doubt if 3/4 of the people commenting on this thread will be interested in these explanation...
Empty vessels really do make the loudest noise sha

WilliamCee: I'm not impressed at all, was dat our president talking,

Where is d confidence, i mean have U seen obama speaking or infact did U watch his innugural speech few days ago...

I cant even believe i even woke my dad to come and watch d interview.

Funny enough, Amanpour asked him about electricity, guess ya'all heard his reply,

Funny enough, there was no light, i watched with generator.

#notimpressed

After realizing that you live with your dad, I simply laughed at your immature comments!

Afam4eva: A lot of NDeltans wan t resource control but some of them are also calling for an increase of their monthly allocation. I'll personally suggest resource control so that because can develop based on the natural and human resources at their disposal.

Those calling for increased monthly allocation are totally ignorant and misinformed, increasing the monthly allocations in a dysfunctional system will only serve o increase the money available for corruption,
When we say states should stop receiving monthly allocations from FG, and instead look inwards, look at creative ways to exploit all resources available to them and pay taxes o the FG, we are also referring to nigerdelta states..
Nothing much can happen in any of the nigerdelta states, even if they embark on massive infrastructural development, it still amounts to little.

Afam4eva: One state that has been on the receiving end on Nairaland is Lagos and we all know it's because it's Nigeria most populous and important state and a lot of Nairalanders live there. I think it's time we started spreading our review of other states in the country especially Niger Delta states.

The states in the Niger Delta collect the largest allocation from the FG and the amount is wayy more than what non-ND states collect. The Niger Delta also have a ministry devoted to it's affairs. They also have a government parastatal(NDDC) devoted to developing the region where majority of Nigeri'a wealth comes from.

Even though Niger Deltans have cried that they need more from their resources through more derivation or resource control, but personally i think what they're presently been given is a whole lot and they should be able to account for it.

Now i ask, what have the Niger Delta states done with the gargantuan allocation that they get monthly. Is there any notable thing that these states have done to justify the huge allocation?

Adam we are not saying we need more of our resources, we are saying that like any other business concern we should control he resources and pay tax to government.
It's that simple, the present structure is a misnomer as far as I am concerned.