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Bigsteveg: They have branches, and what's the problem with with us Christians, which one is winners, redeem, baptist, catholic...no wonder Christianity is not moving forward.
Tell me a verse in the bible that Jesus made mention of a denomination or what can I call it?
So the God of winners is diff from God of Christ Life Church

I didn't say that and actually don't disagree with you. I was just saying that the said church might even have a branch on the same street and some people will still travel miles to listen to their GO's preach.

EfemenaXY: And that implied you lacked motherly instincts?

It felt that way especially when you kept on emphasising on political correctness not standing in lieu of a child's safety.

chaircover: Damiso, naijababe and Efemenaxy help me o!
I am fed up of nearly breaking my neck running up the stairs 3 at a time to respond to the most shrill and scary scream, only to discover that madam has only seen one harmless daddylonglegs that’s minding its biz jeje. Drama inc.
How do we get rid of these things o!
I don’t know how Mr CC will cope when his daughter starts dating o! The daughter sef I don’t know how she will cope too
The other day she said when she gets married, dad will come with me or she will bring her hubby to come and live with us. I said God Forbid.
She doesn’t know that I have it all planned and as soon as she leaves home, I am downsizing and going to live by the seaside.
naijababe it takes time. Its not something you get over for years. Grieve in anyway you know how.
I lost my dad years ago but I still think of him often and I wish he was here to see his grandchildren grow. It is well ((hugs))

Me I don't know can't you just kill them ni leave Mr CC to be dealing with his lil madams drama jareThat's what I do I even roll my eyes join sef(R231 we need rolling eyes emoticon too )

EfemenaXY: Okay, I've just gone through all my posts on this thread and I fail to see where I implied directly or indirectly that Damiso "does not have motherly instincts".

Would you mind terribly pointing that out to me? Because come to think of it, that specific post was me responding to carefreewannabe and cococandy's posts.

It was not a post per se but the insistence and amplification of ALL male nursery 8am to 6pm for my 6 month old daughter.

ileobatojo: Yes, but as far as I could tell, the debate you were having was specifically relating to sex.ual abuse. Hence my confusion at the analogy.

If you read my stance on my other posts my arguments on why I think not only males could be predatory was that abuse on children especially those who could not speak was not only of the s.exual kind.

Nashville: I agree with the bolded. It was an accident and it could have happened at anytime. The wife is also grieving and the man should be thankful that his wife did not die as well. If she had died, is he saying he wouldn't even care? I am sure he would; so there is always something to thank God for. I am sure the woman has learnt a hard lesson.
The lesson is that marriage is not a power tussle and God is everywhere. I hate apportioning blame but in this case, the woman should have found a closer church just because her husband was strongly against her travelling to Ota. I don't think that was too hard to do. They didnt need to go through what they are going through now, if you ask me.

I am not too sure of winners structure(so don't know if they have branches) but some people have a branch of their denomination or church in their neighbourhood but insist on going to their HQ just because they must listen to the GO every Sunday.I know someone personally who lived in Ogba and had a branch of MFM on their street but still travelled to Onike every Sunday and Wednesday for service.

ileobatojo: I'm sorry o, but how exactly does a neonatal nurse, male or female, achieve the feat of molesting a sick preterm infant? He just disconnects the child from the breathing machine/oxygen, turns off all the monitors (heart and oxygen monitors), disconnects the IV lines and feeding tubes and then carries this sick infant to the full glare of all the other nurses, techs and receptionists in the ICU and just waltzes into the bathroom to go molest them? Does this sick child also survive this whole ordeal in this hypothetical scenario?

A sicko is a sicko and sick deranged individuals get off on the weirdest and oddest things and sometimes get off on abusing the most vulnerable people not just in s.exual ways.There have been cases of health workers molesting people in coma..As I said abuse is in various forms and an abuser could just be a sadist who takes delight in playing or toying with people's lives.There was a case of a nurse who was found fiddling with patients breathing machines just for kicks.Another was found to increase the amount of insulin given to some old geriatric clients also just for kicks.A Neo natal nurse might not waltz the child into the bathroom to molest the child but might engage in other sick activities and need just the few moments they are alone with the child to carry out their sick activities.

I never set out to argue on this thread. I just stated my opinions that I felt it was unfair for someone who might not be a child abuser be denied a job they might actually be good at based on their gender. I try to maintain a 'my opinion is not necessarily law or better than yours' stance on NL but I was actually beginning to feel that Efe was implying that I did not have 'motherly instincts' because of that opinion.

naijababe: Dami, I had no idea it was going to be this hard o. I feel like I am in one deep abyss and struggling so hard to pull myself out. It will be 2 months since she passed in two days and yet within ten minutes of waking up in the morning ever since she died the thought that i am motherless floats into my head

I know the feeling it will get better with time.E-hugs With time you will get used to her not being around. 2 months is short naa.After how many years I still get moody or miss my dad badly when certain topics are being talked about or around certain times of the year. You will be fine sis.

naijababe: Glad to hear it, give her my love too

Will do sis how are you holding up? Sure you are missing your mum it is well

Moca becoming a politician is the surest way militancy is no longer in vogue if not would've prescribed that

EfemenaXY: Read between the lines Damiso. No offence babes, but I don't do second-hand questions.
I hope you get my drift.

Ok. Like I said earlier we are all entitled to our opinions.

rebella: Damiso, send my love to her too

Will do if I open that my NL sign up email in another 100 days she replied one old PM I sent in August since the first week in sept just saw it today.

EfemenaXY: Sorry Damiso, only just seeing this in my mentions as I'd already unfollowed this topic. In response to "your" question, what do you think?

Haa Efe so you would take out a child from an intensive care unit because of a male nurse?haan haan now that's harsh. I don't want to second guess you though so want your thoughts would you take a child out of intensive care because a male nurse who may or may not be a child abuser signed in for a night shift?

Some people take things too far and this wife was probably trying to prove 'you can't tell me how to worship MY God' like her God can only be found in Otta now things have gone south very tragic. I don't even know what to say to the man about forgiveness but it can be done.The child was her child too and I am sure she is already going through so much emotionally as it is.The man has to look at it from the perspective that accidents are accidents(they are not planned or expected) the accident could have occurred on lekki expressway for him to come to some sort of forgiveness.no mother actually wants to lose their child.

Hello everyone.

Naijababe ewuro sends her love,she is ok.

TV01: Excellent question Damiso!

Was there an answer to this by any chance? I couldn’t find it…


TV

Had a busy weekend so just logged in today

Efemenaxy would you also be averse to male neo-natal nurses taking care of vulnerable preterm babies in Neo natal ICU units? I know it's an hypothetical question but the ALL MALE nursery question was hypothetical as well.

I cook better than my mum even she attests to that fact when she visits me.Also I can cook dishes from outside my tribe and country and she can't

He might just want to touch a life you know.

EfemenaXY: Sorry, I beg to differ. Emphasizing an all-male staffed nursery is certainly not an outlier. If the most "suitable" candidates applying for a job happen to be all males, then what's the problem? Why should it be viewed any different from those that have the odd, lone, male worker there?

I'm pushing the boundaries of "acceptance", or rather, I'm keen to see how far proponents of men working with very young, vulnerable, and extremely dependable kids (3 months - 3 years) are willing to go.

It's either you're totally for it or against it - no half measures here. But yeah, I think I get you now:

You aren't adverse to sending your baby to an all-male staffed nursery (8:00a.m - 6:00p.m, Mon - Fri), even though you might still find it uncomfortable.

Thanks for the clarification.

Ok..we all view things differently and that's what makes life interesting.You know my point was more about us being scared that male child care workers being likely child abusers while there is a higher likelihood that women will not be but it's all good.

Can I ask you also what of male neo-natal nurses? I know parents are often around a lot with preterm babies but the parents do go home sometimes and some pre-term babies can be in hospital for up to a year. Would you take the child out if as you were leaving your 6 month old baby one night a male neo-natal nurse signed in for a night shift?

EfemenaXY: Yes, I got all of that in your earlier post.

Okay, let me redefine my question: If you could turn back the clock, knowing what you know now - would you have any reservations sending your six month old baby to an all-male nursery?

Efe you are trying to take this argument waaaay off by emphasising on All male nursery which in most cases is an outlier.I have admitted that I might find it a bit uncomfortable but my point is I am NOW not averse with there being males working in childcare and so if my daughter (or son )was in a nursery that had male staff where I feel adequate child protection measures are in place i would be ok with it and not withdraw them.

My point on this thread has been if we are to believe EVERY MALE not related to our child might be a potential abuser why are we so sure EVERY FEMALE might not be? In my opinion I think ALL child abusers regardless of actions( actual penetratration or playing with a little boys genitals ) are despicable.


And yes I do have motherly instinct. I would fight with all that is in me to protect my child.

EfemenaXY: Yes, yes, I know all about the sterotyping and pitiful pay.

But we're talking 21st century progress. Just as you have all female staff nurseries, why would you find it difficult to send your little one to an all male nursery?

Afterall, it's just a job like any other out there, or isn't it?

Because like I said earlier when I was told my daughters teacher was male, I believed due to stereotypes( Mr Noonan proved me wrong) that women are better caregivers to very young children.But now I am more open to a male/female mix if they are qualified,well trained and thoroughly screened to be in that job.My scepticism was not 100% based on potential abuse I just thought it odd that a man was a nursery teacher. like I said earlier abuse comes in various forms and female care givers have been known to abuse lil children that can't speak as well.

We can't just assume EVERY single male who is not related to our child might be a potential molester and EVERY woman might not be.Those male molesters too actually have female children as relations and some children are abused by their own fathers.Studies have even shown that most children are often molested by a family member.Like I said earlier one of the worst child s.ex offenders in UK history was a woman with 5 children of her own.She was not just doing stuff to them she was selling their pictures to paedo.phile rings all over the world.

jennykadry: I am bored. I think I need a holiday. Any one wanna suggest a CHEAP country to visit for 2 weeks? and any volunteers happy to pay for the trip?. Chaircover, Damiso, my yellow pawpaw Idowuogbo who I have judged so wrongly , Efemenaxy, NaijaBabe, coogar, r231, Sagamite...please heleep a sister mbong

I hear The Gambia is beautiful and not that expensive.but you live in Australia so by the time you calculate airfare from Australia I am sure it will be probably no longer be a cheap destination that's one advantage of living in the UK Its not that far from Africa

I think the OP meant Teachers that teach preschool and my teachers daughter I spoke about was nursery in a school. Nursery workers (creches) are mostly not teachers and often have childcare qualifications not teaching qualifications. As I said my daughter had a make nursery teacher at 3 and a half In the our local Catholic primary school nursery.

And to your question no I would find it difficult if they were ALL male BUT I would not mind if they had male nursery staff as well as female.Men are rarely nursery nurses or childcare workers because apart from the negative stereotype the pay is not that great to be honest.

EfemenaXY: We're talking about male workers in nurseries for the very, very, young ones: 3 months - 2/3 years. As per a male childminder??!! Don't even go there, abeg.
Speaking of which, will you Damiso, in the spirit of openness and equality send your 6 month old daughter to a full time nursery run entirely by male staff? You know the hours I'm referring to: 8am - 6pm, Mon - Fri.
Your candid views please.

But abuse comes in different shades naa o..intimate abuse is not the only sort of abuse that could be inflicted on children that can't talk.Childminders giving babies sleeping medication so they don't cry,childminders slapping and shaking a 9 month old baby and the baby died (all female) Horror stories I heard about childminders, nannies etc almost put me off going back to work after I had my daughter.But that's where doing adequate research and trying to use recognised caregivers comes into play.If we want to automatically assume most men might abuse a female child what of the male child?

TV01: I certainly have the temperament, patience and requisite love for children (not the "concerning" type 0! ), but I wouldn't for a whole host of reasons.
Abuse is horrifying and every care must be taken, but the risks are still relatively small. Just as big a problem is the indoctrinisation via the curricula that is being introduced.
Happy and rewarding parenting all.
TV
^{**there is one in my sons nursery and I appreciate his presence for all the reasons Carefreewannabe mentioned. Not sure if he "cleans", but I couldn't care less, as I do, and as long as it's done. I check my son over daily and I am sensitive to his moods**}

I find that most of the males that work in Early Years (0-5) have QTS( qualified teacher status) and as such even if the need be rarely have to clean up after the children as that's the job of the nursery assistants but even as nursery assistants sef some people(males included) just are at ease working with very young children.

Until I had my own kids I can count the no of diapers I had changed in my life and I had little or no patience with toddlers meanwhile my husband had waayyyy more experience taking care of young children as he used to be the one who looked after his uncle's children. He was the one who bathed our daughter for about 3 months as I was so scared I would drop her.He still has more patience than me with it comes to certain things e.g I don't think I have ever cut any of my kids nails, cleaned out their ears and he is faster than I am at changing diapers.I have never ever used my mouth to suck out mucus from the kids noses (eew yuk ) and he does it wella.

Nursery teachers even prefer not to undertake toilet duties.Most school nurseries (in primary school settings) and preschools won't even take on a child not fully potty trained except for those with statements of educational needs.

One of the worst child s.exx offenders in a nursery setting in the UK was a woman with 5 children of her own.

My daughters former nursery teacher was a man.I will not lie the first day I went in for Inspection I felt a bit iffy about it ( I saw meet and greet nursery teacher MR Noonan )but on getting to talk to him and the other staff (he had 4 nursery assistants and 1 nursery nurse all female if I may add yes that calmed me down a bit i won't even lie)I realised I was being both judgemental /close minded and he seemed like he was good at his job.My daughter and the other kids absolutely loved him and at the end of the year I had to admit that he was great at his job.


Dealing with preschool kids(3 and 4 year olds) requires so much patience and frankly many men are not disposed to dealing with 20 or 30 preschoolers at the same time heck even some women can't deal with it.Some men will be disposed to it though and it would be UNFAIR for them to be discriminated against because of their gender.

soulglo: Even in private schools? Don't think they can. Even in public schools the way the parents vote can greatly affect school policy. To be honest I'm surprised to hear Nigerian parents push this responsibility on to schools. I wonder how they would feel if a teacher teaches their sons that homosexuality is an option. I don't have a problem with homosexuality but I would like to be the one educating my children on that.

The society at large (I am talking about the UK here) is a largely politically correct liberal society and so if a 13 year old girl opens up to pastoral care in school that she needs contraceptive pills because she is s.exually active the school nurse will prescribe it without parental consent (not too sure about private schools though).to them teenage s.ex is a lesser evil than teen pregnancy.The childs 'rights' to privacy especially if it seems like you are the kind of parent to make a fuss trumps yours.Faith schools are a bit different but I still will not take the chance we (I and hubby) need to get there first.

jennykadry: Do you use same shade for foundation and powder?

Sometimes I use a lighter shade as foundation bronze 5 and bronze 6 on top but most times same.

cococandy: Your phone/tablet/computer will cry for help

If it does not crash sef

As an aside going through family section this evening I think I am going to open a handle with the name 'feminism' imagine the mentions when the user logs in

jennykadry: Damiso and i think say i dark? Nw55? you be sudanese? Lol kidding .

Is they a bronze 3 or 4 in Mk? Cos i think i belong somewhere btwn those two. I am guessing 4

Blacky and proud

yes there is bronze 3 and 4.make up artists say I should mix 3 and 5 for contouring but wetin I dey contour I tell dem say my face na construction site ni..

r231: you think say na joke.....

one of my friend get church......so we dey party one day dey talk and the wife just say......

ehhh ejo iyi ti a n so dun ti eba ti pari esin lo la te ti ka owo tan ke ba mi yo owo cream mi si egbe o to si cream mi ti fe tan ooo

emi o gba gba ku gba ejo iyawo apostu to ri ita ni mi

R231 and yesterday you say make I no call you 'London big boy'