TommyAnthem:
A thousand likes for you bro, further more, they should stop wearing clothes, they should visit babalawos when they are sick, they should use donkeys, camels, horses etc whenever they want to travel, they should even quit the social media and go live their lives in huts and caves because all the aforementioned are products of the white man and his religion.

You are damn wrong. The white man had to fight religion to achieve progress. Read about Galelio and the Catholic Church. And Europe was not responsible for all inventions.The Chinese invented paper, printing, compass, gunpowder and fire works. These inventions paved the way for subsequent inventions.

BigBashiru:


Is that your excuse? Accepting the black man's failure hits the ego hard but it's necessary and the first step to progress.

Let black Africans accept that they hv failed (it will be hard on the ego) and then partner with successful races and find out what made then suvcessful. I believe it's best to have Nigerians ruled by foreigners since no progress since 1960.

I think we need to do a kind of self criticism for us to move forward.

Attributing to Christianity human natural instincts of care and empathy is at worse foolish. Humans have the natural instincts to cause destruction on a large scale and also to empathize with the fatherless and widows, this has nothing to do with religion.

We have many countries who are doing very fine without Christianity being rooted in their cultures.For example Japan is a modern industrial society without being a Christian nation. What this tells us is that modernity can also be achieved in Africa without either Christianity or Islam ,or any other religions for that matter. The idea that Christianity equals economic development was essentially eurocentric in context. It was done to propagate Christianity throughout the world just because the Europeans were the first to modernize. The Europeans even argued further that to develop u need a multi-party democracy, free market economy, and a European language.But all these things have been shattered with the experiences of China, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore and Japan.


To argue that Africa would have remained in darkness without Christianity or Islam shows lack of understanding of human social evolution.It can be argued that there are many causes of African backwardness,however ,religion in the form we practice it definitely remains one of them. Religion has been used to reforce the authority of our political leaders. In today Nigeria, religion has served as a tool of social divisions rather than cohesion, and our politicians have been adept in using religion to further polarize the nation for the their selfish ends.


The biggest cause of Africa backwardness, I think, was colonial rule together with slave trade. Colonial rule truncated African natural social evolution ,just as other continents evolved,and its ability to borrow from others rather than being forced to follow a course alien to the continent. Today in addition to our backwardness, we are unable to develop our languages to serve as useful languages for teaching and learning of science. If Africa various kingdoms had been allowed to evolve naturally perhaps the more powerful ones would have conquered the weaker ones to create nations with strong national identities.Another possibility was that different ethnic groups large enough to make nation would have evolved with minorities being brought into larger ones, this definitely would have reduced the ethnic tensions we have today .



The reason some are blaming religion is because religion has made many become unreasonable.Religion has become a rally point for Nigerians to a degree that national identity is lost.We now believe that everything is going to be done by God even if we refuse to take a step. That is foolish of us. Religion cannot solve economic problems. If anything, it only adds to it by encouraging stupid ideas like praying to a certain God for wealth even when we are not working. Religion has stifled the necessary innovation in us by asking us to hate the world.


Religion has also destroyed the solidarity in us as black people who are supposed to empathize with one another having suffered the same oppression in the hands of Arabs and Europeans. We seem more comfortable empathizing with white and Arab peoples who are either Christians or Muslims than our fellow black people with whom we differ on religious beliefs.We hate ourselves and love our oppressors. This is the reality of religion today in Nigeria.

I don't blame him for saying that especially when he knows most Nigerians are foolish. The only hope for Nigeria is for determined Nigerians to organize themselves in revolutionary groups and have all the politicians killed, including Peter Obi, so that a new beginning could be created for the country. It will be foolish for anybody to think that one day the nonsensical democracy we are practicing will produce good leaders. In the absence of a well organized revolution led by the finest intellectually gifted Nigerians who understand the evolution of modern societies on the basis of socio-economic history of all existing societies, Nigeria will forever remain backward and one which will allow the likes of Peter Obi to deceive Nigerians for their selfish interests

grandstar:


Though these achievements by China are impressive, when you look closer, they look less so.

Where is China getting all these cash to build all these fancy projects? The country's debt is ballooning and state owned banks are massively indebted. Were they to call in their loans, China's economy would collapse.

Yes, be impressed but better still, look closer

Forget about the debt, China has enough cash to spend. American debt is much higher than China's debt but the Americans still budgets 500 billion dollars for defense. China has the world largest reserves at 3 trillion dollars, so the debt is not a big problem considering the fact that China is the largest trading nation

Felixamos:
I wish Chinese could tag buhari when they make this type of post if it would make some of his brain cells to start working again. At the right direction this time..

What is buhari problem in this? So you want buhari government to embark on a project we don't even need now and without money to build. The airport reflects Chinese economic development. Don't forget that our Budget is about 10 trillion naira. I don't have the strength to write I would have explained to you why China is what is today and why Nigeria can never be like China however hard we try.

FisifunKododada:


No vex o! So does that mean Buhhda or Tao or Confucius is greater than Jesus and Mohammed?

Are Jesus Christ and Muhammad the greatest humans to have lived?For your information billions of people worldwide don't even know these individuals. Just as you worship your Jesus or Muhammad so also other people worship Buddha,Tao,and Confucius.

FisifunKododada:
How come Chinese who do not believe in God are more advanced, more development than Nigerians who go to churches and mosques in their teeming millions?

Development has nothing to do with God just as democracy has nothing to do with development.And for your information many Chinese are actually Buddhists and followers of traditional Chinese religions.Some do practice Christianity and Islam as well. It is only the government that is officially atheist . Although millions of Chinese are atheists.

I have always said Reno is not reasonable enough. The fact that he has not seen an Igbo man begging doesn't mean there are no beggars from Igbo ethnic group. For example I have not seen an Ibira man begging ,does that translate into the fact that there are no beggars from Ibira ethnic group? Sometimes it is difficult to identify beggars by their ethnicity, tell me how easy was it for Reno to identify the ethnic origin of all the beggars he had seen?This only confirms that Reno is irredemably daft.

hecomeshome:


Iran has made a serious mistake. The U.S asked the U.K to size the Iranian tanker based on mere suspicion, which was wrong. But this was done to provoke Iran, because they knew Iran would definitely respond foolishly.

Iran is not like Nigeria, a slave colonial country. Iranians believe they are equal to any people in the world while Nigerians believe they are slaves to Western countries. That is just the difference between Nigeria and Iran.

Chrisbeks:

US military capability has developed a thousand times better than it was during the Viet nam war. Don't compare those times to now. And what did you expect US to do to Iran for bringing down a drone? Bomb them? It was just a drone. If the Iranian so much believe in themselves, let them bring down one US manned aircraft or fire on the numerous US warships that are in the Persian gulf and see if they are not reduced to rubble. They won't try it though, they know the consequences of that

Iran won't do that just as the US won't do the same to Iran

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What useless technology does iran have? If the US and UK decide to come for them today, they will be crushed in a matter of weeks[/quote

When Japan was developing Britain,being a global power then ,ridiculed Japanese technology just because the Japanese were not Europeans. But when war started the Japanese taught the British a bitter lesson. The Japanese massacred the British like chickens in the Asia Pacific. Almost all the British war ships were sunk by the Japanese that the British had to abandon their colonies in Asia. You may think Iran doesn't have technology but I bet you without American help Britain cannot defeat Iran in a military confrontation. It is because African countries are not serious that the Europeans are still dictating to us. Can Nigeria seize a British flagged vessel in response to the British seizing ours? Your comment suggests a typical slavish mentality that black people have in relation to the Europeans.

shadeyinka:

But why conclusively bring Israel into the equation? Agreed, Iran is a threat to Israel but I think is is recklessly preemptive of you to link them up in the crises. What has been the response of Israel since this crises started?
From your tone, you are a Muslim AND you have just described the battle of Armageddon. It's a mix of Iron and Clay that will almost annihilate Israel when the time comes.

Must one be a Muslim to support Iran? I support anti-imperalist forces around the world being it Christian, Muslim or aitheist. I hate countries bullying others just because the are less developed.

imam07:
child talk. Make they use am nah. U think diplomatic disagreement means both should be fighting with nuclear weapons. Since u were born tell us how many nuclear weapons countries have shot to their enemy. Little conflicts like this, people will be shouting nuclear weapons as if when they are using ps4. Millions of dollars Iran suppose use to boost its economy. They are wasting it on unnecessary projects.

Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons. The only country that has nuclear weapons in the region is Isreal. As for Saudi Arabia, I don't think they can withstand the Iranians in a war. The Saudis are lazy people without much achievement in science and technology. Unlike Iran, Saudi Arabia imports almost all his armaments from the US and Europe without actually producing anything. Iran has achieved a lot in science and technology. The country produces almost all its weapons system. It is a semi industrialized country which is why the Western world hates Iran because they always want countries they can control and dictate to as they are doing in Africa. For a proof of what I am saying, Iran has the largest automobile production capacity in the Middle East. The only two countries that are slightly ahead of Iran in the region are Isreal and Turkey. To prove me wrong do a little research on Iran scientific achievement and industrial productions.

sammyj:
I pity Iran. Hopefully Trump and the west might find ways of clamping down the wings of this Iranians that solely rely on the western technology and economy!!

There's is nothing like western technology, technology is human achievement and it is criminal for any country to monopolize it. Why don't you call paper making, printing, compass and gunpowder Chinese technology for the simple fact that they are all Chinese inventions?Don't forget that the modern Iranians were descendants of ancient parsians who rivalled ancient Greeks in almost all areas of science and technology. Without the achievement of the ancient people in mathematics, alchemy, astronomy, architecture ,paper making and printing, the modern world as we know it wouldn't be possible. Do you even know that the number system used globally was invented by the Indians? The Chinese began the experimental work in explosives that was later redeveloped into bombs.please read more to understand more.

lilwetdick:
i love this

if nigerians are so wise, so clever and so rich, what again they love to claim, the most educated of most immigrant in the US, why arent they fixing up their wretched nation, it shows all those traits are in theory not in reality

show me one nigeria abroad that have come to developed nigeria with their so called skills and i will show you many of them whose main job is to complain and also loot the treasury when they arrive nigeria

Don't mind them. They are not wise and clever. They will complain that the system is bad as if we are not the ones who make the system good. The problem is we are not a great people. We only want to enjoy what others have created while we sit idly by and do nothing. Even those who have studied abroad how many of them have come home with a better idea to help his people? They will keep complaining as if a perfect system exists elsewhere.

TooMuchStuff:


No modern world is developed with Islamic ideology in competition with democratic tenets.
We cannot develop together because Islam does not integrate but seeks forceful domination in any mixed society. Therefore we need to restructure or divide outrightly.

Is Islam the reason for your backwardness? Even without Islam which black majority country is as developed as Turkey, Iran, Qatar, Morroco, Malaysia, UAE, Kosovo, Albania, Bosnia, Algeria, Egypt, Tunisia Lebanon, Azerbaijan? In Asia Phillipine happens to be a Christian majority country but poorer in comparison with its Buddhist and Confucian neighbors like Taiwan, China, Japan and Korea.What do have to say to that? Will you argue Christianity is the root cause of phillipino's backwardness?

RTSC:
Every race in America have been told to go back home at a point in their history.
Even the mighty German people were told go back home.

The difference between those groups and Africans was that they actually went back home and develop their countries.

Now they can afford to go to america with dignity and honour.

The Diaspora was rooting for sowore, while the backward nutjobs in Nigeria were campaigning for buhari and atiku.

You can't help those that don't want help. Trump should remember that when next he asks Africans to go home.

Who told them to go back home, the red Indians ,who own America, or their fellow European settlers?

franchasng:
When we talk, they say we are talking nonsense that black people are smarter than white people.

Until black Africans accept their weakness as a race and begin a honest process of finding solutions to their weakness, Africa will remain backward and joke of all races

Black Africans and all blacks must stop all the blame games black people give that it is the whiteman or western world that made them backward, then liberate yourself like the Asians.

Is it white people that are telling Buhari to remain tribalistic, myopic, and nepotistic in his leadership of Nigeria

Is it also white people or Neo-Colonialists that are telling Buhari to be silent about Fulani herdsmen his brothers destroying Nigeria's agricultural sector with their archaic cattle rearing practice and lack of respect for other Nigerians who aren't herdsmen

Is it also Neo-Colonialists that told Buhari to be appointing key government officials based on tribal and religious sentiments instead of by merit and competency without minding their tribe and religion

These are the problems black race have and I doubt it will ever be solved because if you try to solve it, they will hate you, sabotage your effort and possibly murder you with your good intentions.

Who built the conducive environments for Japanese people, for Chinese people, for American people, for British people, for Germans, for French people, for Singaporeans, for Dutch people, for Swizz people, etc

They built their conducive environments to enable their citizens to succeed by themselves, not by aliens......they coordinated themselves, coordinated their leadership and carved a beautiful nation for themselves, so they are not holding black African nations back from coordinating themselves to also build a conducive environment for their black citizens to succeed in black nations!!


Why is it that blacks only succeed and excel when they travel to whiteman's nation

Why is it that blacks only find their voice only when they travel to whiteman's nation to live and learn, why

Why is it that black people hardly excel in their home black nations

Why is it that black people only remember black activism when they travel to whiteman's nation or when they are living in whiteman's nation

Why can't black people living in black nations come together and start a black revolution to emancipate the black race from poverty, disease, undevelopment, backwardness, darkness, dark practices, inhumane practices and then launch their black activism from their black nations instead staying in whiteman's nation and be rocking shoulder with the same whiteman sheltering and providing for them, why why why

The black race have a fundamental weakness from the start of mankind, and the black race needs to accept this natural weakness first, then begin a true search for lasting solution starting from their homelands not from a whiteman's nation!

Go back to your black nation, organize your youths, enlighten them, start from grabbing leadership power to enable you and your team have enough power to change things....and when you grab the power, don't forget your mission like Buhari and other failed black leaders who forgot their promises to their nations once they get to power....and become selfish and focus on enriching themselves, their family members, close friends, close allies and few selected people....don't be like them because that is another bigger weakness of the black race - SELFISHNESS!

Black people are selfish.....they are mostly concerned about their well being and that of their immediate family members, others can go to hell!

Black people hardly think of collective growth....that is also evident on this thread where some people arguing with me will be bragging that they are more successful than some white people they see in the white nations they live....they forgot that I am not here to talk about individual monetary success but here to talk about collective national success of a race, a people which black nations have failed woefully to achieve due to their natural weakness of selfishness and self centeredness!

BLACK RACE HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM FROM CREATION OF MANKIND, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SLAVE TRADE OR NEO-COLONIALISM, IN FACT, SLAVE TRADE AND NEO-COLONIALISM ARE BIGGER EVIDENCES THAT WHITE RACE ARE SUPERIOR TO BLACK RACE IN THINKING, INNOVATION, POWER, ETC BECAUSE IF NOT, TELL ME WHY BLACK RACE SAT IN THEIR ASSES AND ALLOWED THE WHITE RACE TO COME ALL THE WAY FROM THEIR FAR AWAY LANDS TO ATTACK THEM, CONQUER THEM, SLAVE TRADE THEM AND ALSO COLONIZE THEM FOR CENTURIES IN THEIR OWN BLACK LANDS

Why are blaming Buhari for everything? On what basis the governor in your state does his appointment? Do you know that the newly elected president in Brazil has nominated his son as the country ambassador to US?

I don't understand why Christians get provoked when the Bible comes under attack. Christians are the only ones going about telling other people to repent that their beliefs are not right and yet these people hardly get provoked. U hardly see aithests holding a crusade to disturb other people and this is something that Christians do often ,and when they become under attack they will begin to play the victim card and label their attacker as Antichrists .Christians are not tolerant of other people's beliefs.

Jaysolu:
I feel pity for all these atheists
with all the paranormal things that have happen everywhere they still dont believe

They'll be sorry on judgment day

Don't weep for anybody weep for yourself. Since you are not the one who will judge them u have no right to condemn them.

festacman:
What does Innocent Idibia aka Tubaba meant by "Africa wake up", "Emancipate yourself from mental slavery"? The eternal truth is that there is no greater mental slavery than entrusting yourself to a carved piece of wood that is inhabited by a foul spirit and submitting your life to certain unproven superstitions.

The fact that Tubaba sings well doesn't confer on him any iota of authority to assess Christianity. If he has poor understanding of what the messages of Jesus Christ communicate, he should simply say so. If he is struggling to keep up with the teachings of Jesus Christ, he should say so. If he is confused and scandalized by the human weaknesses of pastors and priests, he should take a look at himself in the mirror, because he should be the last person to judge. However, I doubt if he has trully read and meditated actively on the sriptures. Therefore , he can't give what he doesn't have.

Let's face It. Christianity improved Africa rather than devalue it. From enlightenment of the mind through education offered through schools built free, healthcare through hospital built free, to discouragement of senseless practices such as killing of twins, human sacrifices, burying royalties with human heads and many other things.

Tubaba who chickened out of non-risky street protest should NEVER disrespect the sacred memories of hundreds of missionaries who left the comfort offered by their home countries to come to Africa to preach the gospel. Many were drowned in the sea and many died from malaria caused by mosquito bites. May God bless their souls.

If Tubaba has this day chosen BACCHUS and EROS as his gods and has therefore proudly built shrines under the name of RUMOURS NITE CLUBS to serve them, I wish him good luck.

For me and my household, we will serve the LIVING GOD. I love Jesus and I will serve him all the days of my life. Come and beat me!

You should allow Tubaba express his opinion the same way you are expressing yours. There is no crime in it, it is just a matter of different of opinions.

augustab:
smh.. Are u aware dat cuba is a communist state ravaged with corruption. Nigeria is bad but dont talk aboút cuban doctors they are modern day slaves

Why are they modern day slaves? How much of Cuba history do you know? Despite the corruption in Cuba the country has been able to build understanding infrastructure that Nigeria can only dream of. Cuba is one the few countries with 100% literacy rate. The country also has one of the best health facilities of any developing countries. When their late leader was sick, the treatment was done in Cuba and not in America or Europe. Even Diego Maradona was treated in Cuba when he was sick. Cuba does not have oil and has been under American embargo for almost sixty years yet the country has understanding achievements that Nigeria does not have. Cuban leaders maybe corrupt but they do not siphon their country money to Europe and America.

akdjr:
Brave King. FFK and Gani were beating the drum of war and their followers forget that they can relocate their children and themselves while the war is on and the foolish ones will just die foolishly like what happen to people during python dance.

Who the Oba run to when a Yoruba man kills another Yoruba?

aseosa:


When he said Christianity came from Africa you can reference that to the times of ADAM.
MOSES GREW UP IN EGYPT BUY WAS AN ISRAELITE BUT IN THE TWIST JESUS IS A ISRAELITE.
AND MIND YOU CHRISTIANS AND FOLLOWERS OF GOD LIKE MOSES ABRAHAM JOSHUA AND THE REST LIVED BEFORE JESUS CAME TO THE WORLD.
SO CHRISTIANITY STARTED VERY MUCH SINCE .

AND IN THE MENTION OF MUSLIMS IN THE POST ITS TRUE BECAUSE SOME MUSLIMS WILL USE THIS CRITICS TO CRITIZE THE CHRISTIANS SO I WILL SAY.

I GO WITH WHAT HE SAID

I still insist on the fact that Reno is not intelligent irrespective of what you said. Abraham, Moses and Jesus Christ did not call themselves Christians.People started calling themselves Christians after the death of Christ and not before. So Christianity was a later invention.Secondly I don't think Reno needs to be bothered about what the Muslims would say. If he is truly intelligent he should have reasonably defended his religion against the critic who found fault in the Bible rather than arguing off point. If he wanted to fend off the attacks from Muslims as you claim, then why not bring in other religions as well? Argument is not about going off point but all about being logical and precise.

Shimran:

Meaning that they were all born without purpose, and we're all born just by nature without Supernatural Being? Born-Enjoy life-Die-end!! A common human being do things with purpose. Lastly those religious countries that are always in war, it just a test of life!

What is purpose?

simplesearch:


Government built prisons all over the Nation not because they want anybody to offend or break the law and be incarcerated there,
unfortunately some are even sent their for life. Is that not preemptive or a good ground to accuse the government of being complicit?
In similar vein are exams invented so people could fail? the answer is simple No, Do we then fold our arms without making any effort to succeed because the intention is not to fail us but to facilitate our progress? We prepare for success assiduously and sometimes burn the night candle to achieve our goal and secure our future, do we give same attention to knowing God and his word? God never intended any human being end up in hell, Jesus specifically said the place was created for the devil and his rebellions Demon/Angels alike, Read Matt 25:41. Don't waste precious time meditating on consequences of actions that is not imposed on you, It is wisdom to leave what is not within your capacity to control while focusing only on things within your control. Now what are the things within your control?
1. You can repent and confess your sins to God right now, and you'll receive eternal abundant life from God and Joy and grace in your heart.
2. You can Read the Bible to know what is God's will for you in every situation.
3. You can Resist every temptation to do evil and act right!

You are sure to end well by his grace, Hellfire like human prison is not meant for you, once you are a good citizen no prison sentence for you whether on temporal or permanent basis. sometimes in this world there could be a mix up or miscarriage of justice due to human error that get innocent people into problem and turn them prisoners, not so with omniscient God, you cant serve him according to his word and go to hell by mistake.

How did you determine things which are within our control? What if I consider those things you said not within my control? Is it not the case of you trying to impose your belief on others? Will u also accept my own guidelines as regards things I consider within human beings control even though they conflict with your beliefs?

lonelydora:
Reno is very sound and intelligent. He has been giving it to Buhari and Presidency back to back on Twitter.

You see, this kind of act is why I don't really blame Muslims when they kill people who joke with Mohammed and Quran. They made it in a way you don't joke with them, no matter what. They call it blasphemy and will be shouting" Allah Akbar" while slaughtering people.

I wish Christians can have such high intolerance when it come to Jesus and the Bible.

I don't agree with you that Reno is sound and intelligent. Being able to criticize other people when you don't even need to does not mean one is intelligent. If you consider Reno intelligent what do you make of his statement that Christianity began in Africa which is another way of saying that Christianity actually preceded the birth of Jesus? His ignorance was to assume that there were Christians before Jesus, the man the faith was named after. Another of Reno's gaffe was to derail from the subject matter to another issue that I think is not necessary. Why did he bring in the issue of Quran when Islam and Muslims are not the subjects of discussion?In my opinion Reno was a poor argumentator with poor argumentative skill in defending his Christian faith. He was just being emotional with the fact that the faith he describes to was ridiculed beyond damage. I don't consider Reno reasonable or intelligent.

These are projects local government chairmen should be doing. Nigerians and their mediocre leaders part one.

Stormyweather:
Rome wasn't built in a day. Lagos is pushing it compared to other states.

The argument that Rome was not built in a day is nonsense. It is used by failed people to justify their failure. I have heard politicians in Lagos say if the city were a country it would be the 5th largest economy in the continent, yet Lagos remains a slum with poor infrastructures for its dwellers.You should just come to Ikorodu and have a loot at how backward and poor the place is. Almost all the roads are impassable for motorists. Even my home town I consider backward fares better than some parts in Ikorodu. With the money Lagos State is generating nothing should have stopped the politicians in the city to build first class infrastructures.

Sunmolar:
How many productive Chinese can speak English? Yet they make footprints worldwide.

Chinese mandarin is a world language spoken by the largest number of people in the world. It is only one of the fews ancient languages that has survived to the modern time. The Chinese do not need English language locally because everything in China is in mandarin. They only need English language when interacting with the rest of the world.

Now to Nigeria. We never had a written language prior to European colonial rule so when the Europeans came we were forced to adopt English language for official communication because the colonial masters brought almost everything modern in their language.

Our failure to develop our local languages made almost inevitable for the primacy of English language even after the colonial masters left.Another problem is the multiplicity of languages that we have so making one of them the official language would have generated huge ethnic animosity. Today English language is more of a symbol of acceptance of foreign lifestyle than anything else.

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How come you are the only one with a different view of this Topic so far. Can't you ask yourself some questions? Ain't you ashamed of yourself.

Rubber Stamp supporter

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Must everyone has the same opinion? Why aren't tolerant of opinions different from the ones you hold?