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MaxInDHouse:
He thought since we don't believe in the resurrection of Jesus' physical body that means we don't believe in his resurrection.

Satan has really blinded them completely! 2Corinthians 4:4

What exactly are Jehovah's Witnesses preaching and teaching globally if not God's Kingdom made possible by the death and resurrection of Christ?

Abi oo. If Jesus wasn't resurrected as an immortal spirit being, then how can he now assume Kingship in God's Kingdom, since we know flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom?(1Corinthians 15:50)

Depsui:

God created spirits to live forever.

Infact, the real you is a spirit, that has a soul and lives in a body.



Everyone will live forever, some in heaven, some in hell fire.
Philippians 1:22-24
22 But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not.
23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:
24 Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you.
The real paul( who is a spirit) wanted to leave his body and go to be with the Lord.

The bolded is just a feature in the movies of Olu Jacobs and Chiwetalu Agu.
It has nothing to do with the Scriptures.

Depsui:

You don't understand my question
On the first day of the week, the grave was empty. What happened to the dead body of Jesus?

Jehovah God saw fit to remove the body of Jesus Christ, just as he had previously done with Moses. (Deuteronomy 34:5,6) In order to fulfill what David said at Psalm 16:10 that the body of Jesus would not decompose.

If God hadn't removed Jesus' body, then the disciples wouldn't have fully understood what resurrection to life really meant because at that time there were a lot of things they didn't understand.
That's why several years later—after being taught by holy spirit(John 14:26, 16:13), they were now able to fully grasp the nature of Christ's resurrection and that's why Paul and Peter were inspired to write that Jesus was put to death in the weak/fleshly body but was resurrected as an immortal spirit body.(1Corinthians 15:42-44, 1Timothy 3:16, 1Peter 3:18)

@livingchrist, be humble and learn when JWs are speaking to you. Stop claiming you know. You don't know anything.

You need to understand Genesis 2:7 FIRST because it's little things like these that's confusing most of you.

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Do you know that ‘Spirit’ [Hebrew: ruach, Greek: pneuma] means several things in the Bible?
It can mean:
1. The breath of life in us.(Genesis 2:7, Ecclesiastes 12:7, Luke 23:46)
2. Spirit Persons i.e. Jehovah God and his army of angels. (Psalm 104:4, John 4:24)
3. God's holy spirit/active force.(Genesis 1:3, Psalm 33:6, Luke 11:13)
4. Tempest, wind, air in motion etc(Exodus 10:13, 1Kings 19:11, Job 21:18)

Meditate on each of these and then select, which ‘spirit’ Jesus was entrusting into Jehovah's hands.(Luke 23:46)

MaxInDHouse:

When he became human he was completely human so at death he died just as Adam also died, nothing no soul no spirit survived Jesus he died completely just like any other man!

I blame all those Nollywood and Hollywood actors and producers.
In their movies, when someone dies, something immaterial they call “ghost” will continue living somewhere else and will even be able to torment humans.

The entertainment industry of course will not convey the truth about Jehovah God rather they will promote Satan's lies. (2Corinthians 4:4, Revelation 12:9)

So when Jehovah's Witnesses explain from the Bible that once someone dies, he knows NOTHING at all and passes out from existence(Psalm 146:4, Ecclesiastes 9:5,6)—they refuse to accept because of what the entertainment industry(controlled by Satan) has imprinted in their minds and hearts.

Truly as Jehovah's people, we are NOT ignorant of whatever schemes/tactics Satan uses to advance his falsehoods. (2Corinthians 2:11)

Depsui:

You can't see spirits with your natural human eye except in a vision, through the gift of discerning of spirits or God permits it. But over 500 people saw Jesus Christ before ascended.

Yes people saw him in the form of different materialised bodies just like Abraham saw angels who materialised into men(Genesis 18:1-8.)

There's a difference between transforming the physical body to a spiritual body and discarded the physical body for a new.
People alive during the second coming will have their physical bodies transformed to spirit.

So they won't die? Is that what you're saying? They will just stay and disappear?

Again, spirits don't die, so the Spirit of Jesus Christ never died and therefore needed no resurrection only his flesh needed resurrection.

What do you mean by ‘Spirits don't die’?
Do you know that ‘Spirit’ [Hebrew: ruach, Greek: pneuma] means several things in the Bible?
It can mean:
1. The breath of life in us.(Genesis 2:7, Ecclesiastes 12:7)
2. Spirit Persons i.e. Jehovah God and his army of angels. (Psalm 104:4, John 4:24)
3. God's holy spirit/active force.(Genesis 1:3, Psalm 33:6, Luke 11:13)
4. Tempest, wind etc

See, I won't reply to you anymore unless you're ready to understand the import of Genesis 2:7 here and that Jesus didn't have any spirit being inside him because when he was on earth, he was completely a HUMAN BEING.

Read 2corithians5&15
2cor5:4
For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life

I have a question for you. What happened to the buried body of Jesus Christ?

One of the assignments Jesus was sent to complete on earth was to give up his life/soul as a ransom sacrifice to make atonement/do away with the sins of obedient mankind. (Matthew 20:28, 1Timothy 2:6)
And when he himself died on the torture stake, the breath of life in his nostrils was removed and then he became a dead soul. (Ecclesiastes 12:7, Luke 23:46)
He didn't keep living off somewhere else—as you might think. He offered up HIMSELF as a perfect lamb sacrifice once and for all—just as Daniel and Paul noted. His perfect human body served the purpose for the sacrifice of sins. (Daniel 9:24, Hebrews 9:26,28)

After completing his conquest, Jehovah God restored Jesus as a spirit creature that he once was before he came to the earth.(Job 38:7, Proverbs 8:22) But this time around, he was rewarded with the prize of immortality and more authority and honour was given to him.(Matthew 28:18, Romans 6:9-10, Philippians 2:9-11, 1Timothy 6:15)

livingchrist:

All what you typed there can also be said of other sect.
Jehovah witness organisation is a scam.

No wahala.

Jehovah's Witnesses don buy market today
Even the ones that don't know why they exist are flooding into the thread

2Corinthians 4:4
Satan e no go better for you.

Depsui:

What am saying is that the spiritual body is the glorified body.
Don't be confused by thinking that spiritual body means spirit.

Sir, spirit creatures in heaven all have spiritual bodies that we cannot see. (1Corinthians 15:40)
So get your facts right.

Spiritual body means a type of body(flesh) that is spiritual.

This is a BIG lie, Mr Depsui.
You're just confusing yourself. You need to understand Genesis 2:7 FIRST because it's little things like these that's confusing most of you.

This is the same type of body that the saints will put on at the second coming of Christ
2corithians 5:2-4
2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:
3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.
4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.

So that you're saying when the angels—who are basically spirit creatures(Psalm 104:4)—visited Abraham as men and ate meat/bread with their strong teeth, they were some mishmash of physical and spiritual bodies?(Genesis 18:1-8, Hebrews 13:2)
Please, I've already told you that your claims have no place in the Bible.
Can we just stick to how the Bible puts it and leave all foreign thinking.

This means that the body would not be discarded, but will changed to an immortal body. This is what happened with Jesus Christ. His crucified body was not discarded but it changed to an immortal (or glorified body).

Read 1Corinthians 15:42-44 carefully.

When you plant a seed in the ground and it germinates to be a flower or a tree, does it still retain the identify of the seed? Isn't the purpose of the seed already accomplished?

That's exactly the same here.
When anointed Christians die, their fleshly(physical) bodies are sown in the ground. The spiritual body they possess after resurrection to immortal life in heaven is totally different from their fleshly/human body. There's no combination of both physical and spiritual bodies. Please try and understand that.

MaxInDHouse:
I've told you guys that they're all ATHEISTS in the making, sooner from now the world will change any only those with Jesus' group will remain when all these Churchgoers have been frustrated with all their false beliefs!

The scene of this world is changing indeed my brother. (1Corinthians 7:31)
Soon, the scarlet coloured wild beast(United Nations) will pounce on Babylon the Great(all false religions) and completely destroy her. —Revelation 17:15-17

haddeylium:
These people still need lessons on the basis
They don't believe Jesus himself died. They believe he just shed his skin and his spirit/soul is chilling somewhere for three days ...
Pathetic!
So, where the Bible says Jesus was made alive in Spirit..it brings their reasoning to fault

ahhhh....Satan nah bastard

That's why the first step they have to take is to grasp the real meaning of Genesis 2:7

livingchrist:

[s] No, angels are never called mighty God, there is only one Mighty God and that is Jehovah.
Jehovah alone is called the mighty God no other.[/s]

Go back and meditate on what I said.
I'm not going to deliberate further on this.

Psalm 110:1 is a messianic verse, that speak of Christ position as a man.

I said identify the two characters you're telling me story.
Who is the LORD and who is the Lord?
Was Jesus sitting at God's right hand as a man or as a spirit being in heaven? (Acts 2:34-35)
THINK, PLEASE, THINK.

livingchrist:

Mathew 26:52 is saying that it is ok for a Christian to take part in the system of this world if it is right and lawful do you now see the folly in condemning people who join the military, police etc provided they do what is right no problem.
I leave you with what John said to the soldiers

Mr livingchrist, I have left you already on this matter.
If you like, join military and carry arms, if you like, don't join. What's my business?
So far as all parties are concerned, Jehovah's Witnesses is the group on earth practicing true Christianity today. OTHERS are deceiving themselves. It is only those in my faith I recognize as my brothers and sisters in Christ.

So don't mistake it to be as if I want you to change your thinking or anything. I was only stating the beliefs and practises of Jehovah's Witnesses according to the Bible.
So you're free to do as you like, after all you've got your own freewill to express.

Luke 3:14 And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages.

Nawao. Find one place and perch biko.
If it's John the Baptist you are following let us know.

Depsui:


The Bible supports it. It was His body(not Spirit) that was crucified. The fact that after resurrection there were still scars of the crucifixion on Him(john20:27) shows that He ressurected with His crucified body.
Also, the fact He lives forever in this new body means that it is different from our natural body. Which is why i called it a glorified body. Which the kind of body we will also have after resurrection.
1corithians 15:20-23
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
I Corinthians 52:35-44
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:
38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
You can read the whole chapter.


Don't be confused by the term Spiritual body. Which is why i used glorified body. It's the type of body that every Christian will have at resurrection.

The bolded actually caught my attention. LOL.
So I shouldn't be confused when the Bible says it's a “Spiritual Body” abi?
Instead I should accept the one you're telling me and discard how the Bible puts it shey?

livingchrist:
there is no scripture that says Jesus is an angel, humans are also called sons of God does that mean they are Angels too?
Jesus is given same title as Jehovah, Jesus is Jehovah.
Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Psalms 132:5
Until I find out a place for the LORD, an habitation for the mighty God of Jacob.
Psalm 35 said Jehovah is the mighty God
But Isaiah said Jesus is the mighty God.
So how many mighty Gods do you now have?
And also see,
New world translation
Isaiah 10v21
Only a remnant will return,
The remnant of Jacob, to the Mighty God.+

If Jehovah is the Mighty God therefore does it not occur to you that there can be no other Mighty God?
But Jesus Jesus is also called, Mighty God a title exclusively met for Jehovah.
That only means one thing, Jesus is Jehovah of the old testament.

So because the other angels in heaven are also Mighty gods—that make them equal to Jehovah too? (Psalm 103:20)

The Hebrew word ‘El Gibbohr’(Mighty God) can apply to Jehovah, Jesus(Jehovah's firstborn Son) and other angels but when it comes to being God Almighty i.e. El Shaddai, that title is reserved for Jehovah God only.(Genesis 17:1, Revelation 15:3)

Please what is your understanding of Psalm 110:1?
Can you please identify the two characters portrayed there?

livingchrist:
If Jesus wanted to disarm the nations and discourage nations having soldiers why dis he instruct his disciples to take part of the world by paying taxes?

Go and argue with Jesus at Matthew 26:52.

Depsui:

The Bible supports it. It was His body(not Spirit) that was crucified. The fact that after resurrection there were still scars of the crucifixion on Him(john20:27) shows that He ressurected with His crucified body.
Also, the fact He lives forever in this new body means that it is different from our natural body. Which is why i called it a glorified body. Which the kind of body we will also have after resurrection.
1corithians 15:20-23
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
I Corinthians 52:35-44
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:
38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
You can read the whole chapter.
Don't be confused by the term Spiritual body. Which is why i used glorified body. It's the type of body that every Christian will have at resurrection.

Please what's your understanding of Genesis 2:7?
Was Adam a physical being or a spiritual being?
What was put into the nostrils of Adam?

MaxInDHouse:
DappaD, the guy is just another atheist disguising as a believer, if he can't obey simple instruction it is evident he just want to bear the common name "Christian".
Anytime anyday he is prepared to criticize Christianity, but he likes to be called a Christian that's all!

When Peter and the other loyal/faithful disciples stayed with Jesus even when they did not understand everything he was teaching them, perhaps the majority of the populace thought they had lost their minds.
Whereas the other ones who just like to follow follow Jesus up and down and called him “Lord Lord” everywhere left Jesus immediately he said some things that could not be understood initially—which shows that their hearts were not complete towards God's anointed Servant in the first place. (John 6:48-69)
That is exactly the same kind of attitude Mr livingchrist exhibits.

livingchrist:

who told you Jesus never took side? Jesus took side with God, because God appointed the government to do what is right.
[s]Same thing with soldiers who join the military or join politics without compromising their Christian standard.[/s]
3 John 1:11
Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.
Yes Jesus took side with what is good, just as every Christian should.

At that time when the Roman Empire oppressed the Jews in the region of Judea, Jesus never took ANY sides between the Romans and Jews. He never became a political activist, why infact, he never became an earthly king even when the Jews tried to coerce him to do so! (John 6:15)
So it is his footsteps Jehovah's Witnesses are following today.(1Corinthians 11:1, 1Peter 2:21)

Jesus made a parable of a wounded man who was saved by a Gentile while religious folks like you passed on without glitching. Yet that gentile was recognised by Jesus.

All of these your shallow comments just reveal how misinformed you are about Jehovah's Witnesses.
The Bible advises true Christians(Jehovah's Witnesses) to work what is good towards all sorts of men.(Galatians 6:10)
And when we do such, we don't blow trumpets for all to hear about our deeds just like prominent men in the world do. (Matthew 6:2, 1John 2:15-16)

So mr max Jesus took part of the world system by paying tax and so do you and everyone else

Like I earlier said, you have no regard for the words of Jesus.
Because Jesus meant serious business when he said that “they(his true disciples) are no part of the world just like I(Jesus) am no part of the world.”(John 17:14,16)
With respects to affairs of the nations, Jesus' true disciples(today known as Jehovah's Witnesses) are to remain neutral—they are never to enrol for military service or sing a solidarity song to any human organization, never to vote or lobby for positions of authority in human governments.
All of these because the government they're supporting i.e. God's Kingdom is not of an earthly origin and that which will soon destroy all man-made governments. (Daniel 2:44, John 18:36)
It is because of the neutral stand they take—that makes all the nations of the earth to focus attention on them(JWs) and label us “extremists” which shows that the world would hate us passionately just as Jesus said they would. (John 15:18-20)

livingchrist:
their money are being used to fund the military to kill fellow men.
Imagine jehovah witness paying taxes to fund the killing of another witness who also pay tax to kill his fellow witness.

Jokers

Do you know that the guy you're replying to, thinks your trinity god is a joke?

When the disciples of the Pharisees and members of Herod's political party came to Jesus and tried to incite him to commit treachery, what did he reply to them?
“Pay back, therefore, Caesar’s things to Caesar, but God’s things to God.”—Matthew 22:21
Here, we see that Jesus never took sides or tried to become a political activist. Instead, he recognized that since money being a legal tender belongs to the government, it is also right for the government to ask for that money in forms of taxes and levies in order for the government to provide necessities that'll benefit the society.
“God's things to God” connotes our worship, our loyalty. True Christians can only render sacred service to Jehovah God and not to any man, country, government etc—because he is a God requiring exclusive devotion. (Exodus 34:14)

So in essence, Matthew 22:21 == Romans 13:1-7✓

livingchrist:

good thank God for your labeling, same way the pharisee labelled Jesus a fraud, a possessed man, same way you have labelled christians false religion.
Have you bothered to read about your organisation history?
Your foundation is rooted in satanism, go and find out, taze Russell was a freemason (a luciferian) many years your organisation were deeply in paganism

I see nothing here except moonlight tales that has no hold on me or any other JW.

Your trinity idols are so worthless to the point that it cannot resolve issues between its worshipers, between Catholics and Protestants, who were politically divided and went ahead to kill themselves.

Truly, those who are approved of the true God are evident by the fact that they practise righteousness.
Meanwhile, offspring of Satan are like a restless sea that cannot calm down—those who can even murder the fellow brother all in the name of tagging it “justified”.(Isaiah 57:20, 1John 3:10-12)

@livingchrist, from the above, I think you well know where you belong now.

AkinwaleJJ:

Guy humble and learn, neither Abraham, Moses nor David is qualified for God's Kingdom yet because they've not received training from the Prince of Peace, that's why Jesus said "among those born of women (from Abel till John the baptist) there has never been anyone greater than John the baptist but the least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than John" Matt 11:11
So none of those people you mentioned is yet qualified for everlasting life because they will still be resurrected and taught Jesus' counseling, whoever thought he's anything better than Jesus' command will return to dust! Rev 20:11-13

The Prince of Peace has given the order saying drop all weapons, because all those who settle matters with weapons will perish by weapons Matthew 26:52

All those who lived before John the baptist never heard such a statement before so they will not be condemned for what they don't know, but whoever disregard the order from God's only begotten son after hearing it with his/her own ears, God's wrath is upon that person! John 3:18, 36

Remember that all false religionists are on that broad road leading to destruction. So they are free to do as they like. (Matthew 7:13-14)

They say JWs are zombies, ok, they say JWs are brainwashed, no wahala.
At least there's enough evidence to show that Jesus Christ (Prince of Peace) is guiding the Christian congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses today. (Isaiah 9:6, Ephesians 1:22) and everyone coming in contact with JWs will feel that measure of love, peace, patience, meekness radiated from their gathering. (Galatians 5:22-23)
BUT REMEMBER! They are brainwashed oh

Whereas the ones that are not brainwashed—Catholics, Anglicans, Protestants, Pentecostal—will begin killing themselves when their pastors and political leaders incite them to do so and all in the name of their worthless trinity idols.

Perhaps they should go and read up about the armed political conflict between Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland that spanned almost 30years thereabout that ended in the late 1990's.
These ones are worshiping the same trinity idols but they are not brainwashed that's why they were okay fighting and killing themselves over politics.

AkinwaleJJ:
You know during my teens when reading the book "The greatest man who ever lived" i always wonder what type of hypocrites are those Pharisees and Saddusees. Because they have nothing to accuse Jesus yet they're pointing to the scriptures which they themselves can't make good use of it for peace to reign amongst them.
They kept pointing accusing fingers at Jesus and his disciples even when there is nothing wrong anywhere.
It's when i began dealing with most misinformed religionsists most especially trinitarians that all what happened to Jesus and his followers now comes back to my memories. Surely Satan is working tirelessly to blind people to the truth.
How can someone be arguing and accusing JWs of being hypocrites, liars, whitewashed graves filled with dead men's bones but the same group is the one and only group that will never raise a weapon against anyone!

livingchrist is just like the rest of the zealots in false religion that we've come across in the field before. Nothing peculiar about them apart from being shallow-minded.

livingchrist:


There is no where in the bible where Jesus forbide his disciples from becoming a soldier.
You are turning the bible upside-down, Isaiah2:2-4 is referring to a time yet to come.
you lack understanding of the scriptures. Jesus was speaking of making a defence of the gospel through violence.
when has becoming a soldier means one is hateful? Being a soldier has nothing to do with hate or revenge just defending the nation against external aggression.
If there were no police, soldiers do you think you can be able to live in your house? As long as there is lawlessness, there must the authorities to checkmate it, so it has being ordained of God.
Jesus never instructed his disciples to go from door to door,
Jehovah witnesses are bunch of liars and hypocrites, actually white washed graves filled with dead men bones including you Dappa.

My guy all these one na just okoto yarns. You saw that I quoted Jesus' words from the Bible abi? Whereas you cannot quote a single passage that supports your faulty claim.
That's why I asked you this:
Between you and all the JWs on this thread now, who would the random observer reading this post think is truly representing Jesus and his teachings?

I think everyone can clearly see who's representing Jesus Christ and his teachings now.
Please do not quote me any more.

haddeylium:
Sorry oo
That embolden is kinda funny to me
You mean a Christian soldier should ask if his enemy is a Christian before aiming?

He thinks that just by saying
“I accept Jesus as my personal Lord and Saviour” makes him a Christian
Let him go and challenge Jesus' own words at Matthew 5:44 and 26:52
Werey dey disguise

livingchrist:
Christians becoming a soldier should be a personal decision besides there are rules of engagement in the military couple with the fact that if the war is not justified a soldier can simply decide to quit.
A Christian would not deliberately aim at a fellow Christian still this does not mean a Christian can not be a soldier or other paramilitary.

Your recent comments this evening are so unbecoming of one who claims to be a Christian.
It further shows you have no respect and regard for God's Word—the Bible.

The Bible says that in the last days, God's people will beat their weapons of war into farming tools and they won't learn or participate in war anymore. (Isaiah 2:2-4)
That means when it comes to anything concerning war, God's people today have no part in it. When you check the records of Jehovah's Witnesses in this respect, you'll find it sparkling clean.
Also, on the night of Jesus' arrest, when Peter drew a sword in defense and struck the ear of the slave Malchus, Jesus Christ told him to “Return your sword to its place, for all those who take up the sword will perish by the sword.” —Matthew 26:52
Meaning that he and all the disciples should never resort to violence or war when such situations arise.
Instead if they(Christians) are being persecuted and their worship is being disrupted, they are to flee/escape/run to the next city and not stay back to fight over territories.—Matthew 10:23

In fact it is love for Jehovah God, love for our brothers and sisters related to us in the faith and love for our neighbour that motivates us never to get ourselves involved with anything pertaining to violence or war.—Mark 12:29-32, John 13:34-35, Colossians 3:14
Jesus said we should “continue to love [our] enemies and to pray for those who persecute [us]”—Matthew 5:44-45
It is because of all these that Jehovah's Witnesses “live at peace with men of all sorts”—Romans 12:17-18

Between you and all the JWs on this thread now, who would the random observer reading this post think is truly representing Jesus and his teachings?

you know nothing, there very rich people who were Jesus disciples besides Jesus did not go from door to door most times he preached on boats, mountains or village squares. Besides Jesus never for once condemn roman military.

Jesus' instruction for his disciples was that they move in pairs from house to house. (Matthew 10:5-14, Luke 10:1-11)
The early Christians imitated this method of preaching because it was effective. (Acts 5:42, 20:20)
As for the bolded, refer to the other section of this post.

Jehovah witness are far from Jesus.
Jesus said his disciples will witness for him, jwo do not witness for Jesus.
Jesus never discourage anyone from respecting the nationality, neither did he refuse to heal or save people but Jwo would never save any soul by blood transfusion, they discourage people from respecting their nationality, they do not witness for christ but for Jehovah and many other bad fruits, they are nothing like christ.
Jwo are a bunch of hypocrite, christ haters, harbours and protect pedophiles, deny the resurrection of Jesus, jehovah witness organisation was built on occultism (taze Russell was a freemason and also the watchtower itself), false prophecy and twisted bible interpretation.
They are nothing like christ, Jesus said his church will founded upon the rock.
The church is called the ground and pillar of truth unlike Jehovah witness organisation that has an history of lies(false prophecy)

My guy just keep shut and learn when JWs are speaking to you—instead of ranting and raving over what you know nothing about.

I earlier asked a very important question:
Between you and all the JWs on this thread now, who would the random observer reading this post think is truly representing Jesus and his teachings?

livingchrist:
Jesus said spirits including Angels do not have flesh and bones like he had.
It should be clear enough.

So the angels(who materialised into humans) that visited Abraham did not have teeth and bones to chew bread and meat presented before them abi?
Genesis 18:1-8

livingchrist:
I have made the truth clear to you enough.

For your mind, your forged imaginations and beliefs is truth.
Indeed

livingchrist:
Did Jesus refer to himself as a temple or his body?
When peter said he is putting off this tabernacle was he talking of his self or his body?
this question makes no sense,
When a man leaves his house, is he still present there?
The body is not the life but only houses the life.
The scriptures I gave you made it clear that man has his spirit.
You are bringing another subject into it, which is 'breath of life'. The breath of life is the power giving to man in order to live not only man but all living creatures.
Jesus is not disembodied, it is jehovah witness organisation that teaches a disembodied Jesus not the bible.
@bolded that is a lie, Jesus did not say he had flesh and blood, but flesh and bones.
Acts 2:33
Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
Acts 2 vv33 already settles it, Jesus was already seated at God's right hand when he poured out the holy Spirit.
1914 was a fraud fabricated by watch tower to cover their numerous failed prophecy.

This guy it's like you deliberately want to act dense because you're not addressing any of my questions neither are your spurious claims in line with any scripture in the Bible.

AkinwaleJJ:
OK so you mean Jesus was antiscripture?

Because there must be a way to correlate this, i'm not doubting what you're saying but know that if you're banking on the speeches of Jesus then you're lost completely because he himself said "i have not come to abolish the law or the prophet but to fulfill it" definitely he came to confirm what has been written before him. But because he spoke in PARABLES [Matt 13:13] anyone taking his speeches literally can never see God's Kingdom as you'll continue to get confused at his speeches [John 6:64-66] Jesus don't speak in plain words unless when it's compulsory!
For instance had it been that his disciples understood what he meant by saying "Lazarus has fallen asleep and i'm going to wake him up" [John 11:11] an unbeliever like you will continue to argue that Lazarus didn't die. But thank God he told his confused followers the meaning that day! John 11:14
So you can continue with your arguements just know that Jesus' teachings when it comes to the secret about the future and judgment is symbolic not literal! Matt 13:34

Maybe you should ask him what the literal EARTH did in the first place for it to be destroyed.
When in fact the Bible says that Jehovah God will bring ruin to those(that is, the world of humans alienated from God) who are ruining the earth(the LITERAL EARTH/GROUND)—Revelation 11:18

livingchrist:
what truth have you presented so far?
heavenly bodies does not mean spirit bodies. Heavenly body is the resurrection body.

Garbage.

Again the body does not mean forms of existence,
The bible describe the body as a house or a garment.
2 Corinthians 5:1
For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

And when Jesus likened himself to a temple, did it mean that his body was a literal temple? (John 2:19)
So here too, if Paul uses the same kind of figure of speech, does it literally mean that human beings are houses or tents?

Please answer this very important question.
Which of the following died on the torture stake:
1. Jesus
2. The fleshly body of Jesus

who is talking of Nolly wood movies here?
Are you going to deny the fact that human being has spirit?
Job 32:8
But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.
Proverbs 20:27
The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly.
Ecclesiastes 3:21
Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?
Here are verse that clearly taught about human spirit.

Okay so your best option was to dig up scriptures that don't have anything to do with what is being discussed right?
Please, if you can understand and get the meaning of Genesis 2:7, then you can understand those other scriptures you put up there.
What did Jehovah God breathe into the nostrils of Adam(who was formed from the dust of the earth)?
Is it a spirit being or breath of life(life-force)?

This is clearly untrue and a mere fabricator.
1914 is a fabrication by watch tower society after many failed date fixtures.
Jesus began reign immediately he ascended up to heaven.
Jesus gives life to all who come to him, he gave life to many before and he is still doing it to those who come to him.
Jesus being the life giving Spirit applies to the present as well as to the future.

So why did David, Peter, Paul and Jesus say that Jesus himself was to sit at the right hand of God FIRST after he ascended to heaven? (Psalm 110:1, Matthew 22:43-44, Acts 2:34-35, Hebrews 8:1)
That's actually by the way. If you decide to continue preaching that your Jesus is a—how did you put it again—‘a glorified resurrected disembodied spirit with flesh and blood’—then do go ahead with that while Jehovah's Witnesses will stick to the unadulterated truth as found in the Bible! (2Timothy 3:16)

AkinwaleJJ:
Mr Ken, all you need is divine wisdom!
All your questions have answers that a teenager among the JWs will enlighten you!

Is there any need answering him?