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Kobojunkie:
Nevermind... i thought you were being serious for once

So you expected me not to answer you?
You never start o!
Even to an average thinking person, what I've said is sound enough. Keep asking questions it shows you're willing to learn.

Kobojunkie:
when what we are concerned with here is the Truth of who He is as regards the OP question posed.

Shey you have started again? From asking me whether the Bible is God's Word to asking me why Jesus is called the Great Teacher and now you're reverting back to the topic of this thread?
You, my friend are obviously confused

Kobojunkie:

Jesus commissioned his disciples to also preach and teach what he[Jesus] taught about God's Kingdom
Matthew 24:14, 28:19-20, 1Corinthians 11:23, 1Thessalonians 2:13, Colossians 1:28
And like the Bible stated, Jesus came to the earth to carry out TWO major tasks.
1. To preach the good news of God's Kingdom (Matthew 4:23, Luke 4:43, 8:1)
2. To give his life as a ransom so that those exercising faith in him can have their sins forgiven and so that they can have everlasting life (Matthew 20:28, John 3:16, 1Timothy 2:5,6, Titus 2:13-14)
So Jesus completed his assignment as a Great Teacher and as a corresponding ransom sacrifice while he was on earth (John 17:4)

Kobojunkie:
I don't understand the essence of introducing the claims of His greatness when what we are concerned with here is the Truth of who He is as regards the OP question posed.

Do you plan to directly respond to any of the questions I have asked regarding this or not?

Maybe you should structure your questions in an organized manner then
You asked me how and why Jesus is called the Great Teacher and I answered you so you want to keep shifting off course?
All of Jesus' teachings are recorded in the Bible for those who truly want to do the will of God.

Kobojunkie:
The greatest teacher that ever lived or the ONLY Teacher of those who are His followers.

According to Jesus Christ, He is the ONLY Teacher of all His followers. So is this true or ia this a lie?
Did His role as the ONLY Teacher expired when He left the earth?

You are shifting off the whole course now. Well okay
Jesus was called the Great Teacher because he himself was taught by the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, Jehovah God. (John 12:48-50) And that was possible because he had existed in heaven already, as archangel Michael (Proverbs 8:22-31, John 1:14, 3:13, Jude 9)
The crowds which Jesus taught were usually amazed by his God-given wisdom that they asked themselves “Where did this man get this wisdom and these powerful works?” (Matthew 13:54; see also Matthew 7:28-29)
Another reason why Jesus was called the Great Teacher is that he reflected his Father's qualities 100% which included love for people, Jesus had genuine love for all people - men, women and children that he was always out preaching the good news of God's Kingdom and also healing and curing the sick, raising the dead etc. He did that out of love for the people. For one, Jesus was never irritated by the many questions people asked him, including the Pharisees, he was always patient with them. (Galatians 5:22-23)
With his God-given wisdom, he knew how to break down the concept of God's Kingdom to things people could understand. He used illustrations that the people listening to him could grasp and understand.
So in all his teachings and dealings, he reflected God's qualities perfectly (Colossians 1:15)

Jesus came to the earth to carry out TWO major tasks and which he has completed already 2000years ago (John 17:4):
1. To preach the good news of God's Kingdom (Matthew 4:23, Luke 4:43, 8:1)
2. To give his life as a ransom so that those exercising faith in him can have their sins forgiven and so that they can have everlasting life (Matthew 20:28, John 3:16, 1Timothy 2:5,6, Titus 2:13-14)

All of Jesus' teachings are recorded in the Bible which are beneficial for us to learn and apply. So neither God nor Jesus speaks directly to anybody today via any means! Today anyone who says God or Jesus spoke to him directly is just lying to himself! (Hebrews 1:1-3)

Kobojunkie:
What?
Are you saying His job as the Word of God expired when He ascended?
You mean He lied when He said, " I am the way, The Truth, and the Life"?
Jesus Christ somehow seized to be the TRUTH of God?
Everything Jesus Christ said while He was here on earth no longer apply as Truth...His truth expired?

That's not what I'm saying sir
Of course Jesus is the Greatest Teacher that ever lived so his teachings are what true Christians today study, live by and preach. My emphasis was that all what he taught stemmed from His Superior, Jehovah God! (John 12:48-50, 14:28)

Kobojunkie:
The Word of God refers to the Word out of the mouth of God, and Jesus Christ is the word of God made human. The Word of God is TRUTH.

The book that is the Bible like any other book that contains stories was written by human hands and in human words. The one thing about the book is that it also contains the written word of God. Meaning? The book is not God's truth. The Word of God refers to the Words out of the mouth of God contained in the book.

Have you taken out time to look at the following scriptures?
Romans 15:4, 2Timothy 3:16 & 2Peter 1:20-21? Please do so and know that the entire Bible is inspired of God.
Jesus is called “The Word of God” because he served as God's spokesman while on earth (John 12:48-50)

Kobojunkie:
The Word of God refers to the Word out of the mouth of God, and Jesus Christ is the word of God made human. The Word of God is TRUTH.

The book that is the Bible like any other book that contains stories was written by human hands and in human words. The one thing about the book is that it also contains the written word of God. Meaning? The book is not God's truth. The Word of God refers to the Words out of the mouth of God contained in the book.

Omoh guy carry your philosophy comot for here!

Kobojunkie:
So whose word will you trust, even in this case, Jesus Christ's own teaching on this, Peter's word or Paul's?

It's obvious from here on that you've roped yourself into further confusion!
So the reason you can't connect the Bible as a whole is because of this thinking of yours! 2Timothy 3:16

rottennaija:
Truth truth truth. When you see truth, can you stand it? Like one stated below?

I have warned you to stop quoting me with these your useless apostate books
Guess you'll never learn then, continue.

Kobojunkie:
picking verses from all over will not help when the Truth of God Himself already provided the best explanation for the question asked.
Whose word willl you believe? Jesus Christ's or Janosky's? You choose !

Okay so the scriptures Janosky quoted from the Bible, did he manufacture it? He showed you outright from the scriptures that Jesus is the Son of Jehovah God (Matthew 3:17, 16:16, John3:16, 14:28, 17:3, 20:17,23, 1John 5:9)
Peter and Jesus said themselves that he[Jesus] was the Son of the true God, which is an established Biblical truth.
And you want to come and give me trash that he's speaking on man-made doctrines
Guy pick a hustle and stop changing your mouth here and there.

Kobojunkie:
Rather than picking verses all over the place

Oh so now he's picking verses abi
Earlier you said he was speaking on what you called “man-made doctrines” but now he's using the Bible to explain the things you ignorantly termed “man-made doctrines” he shouldn't pick verses again abi
Oga choose a hustle!

rottennaija:
What truth did Raymond Franz deviate from? Name just 2 of such truth he deviated from.

Lol can you construct your rebuttals a little better please? You look like you're hanging onto thin thread. The reason why you and your uncle Franz left the truth is because of the scripture below.


1John 2:19
“They went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us. But they went out so that it might be shown that not all are of our sort.”

Maximus69:
Thank God i'm not a freethinker!

You can't even grasp simple logic. Spiritual nourishment simply means she's comforted with the way this person present Bible truth, and it's you that's feeling otherwise because Rozz actually opened this thread to prove that she's now receiving Spiritual nourishment that surpasses that of the TRINITY.
Note the topic of the thread!
My guy, this freethinking stuff is not good for you o!

He's fond of laying accusations on one person after the other

Rozz:
They have all deviated, whats the big deal revealing one's church anyways I would do more of reading except to torment fake pastor Johnw419 once in a while

Lol if it's not a big deal, why did you tag “Jehovah's Witnesses” before creating your thread?
My dear it is very necessary to know where one is coming from and his stand regarding certain things o

RussellRutherfo:
The hypocrites are even more satanic. Immediately, you wake up to all the atrocities done in the mold of JW doctrines and ask bold questions. You get disfellowished and next ostracized by your loved ones too.

Family Breakers exactly like the Devil who come first acting like the light but end up stealing, killing and destroying.

Here's what Jesus himself had to say on that matter!
Matthew 10:34-36:
“Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword. For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. Indeed, a man’s enemies will be those of his own household”
Jesus very well knew that his teachings would stir up division within a family! So what you're saying is not new chief.

RussellRutherfo:
I think even a supposedly former "144,000" JW Governing Body Member, the Late Ray Franz and several other ex-JWs are aware of that "apostate branded lies" satanic game used to tag anyone who wakes up to lies of the false organization: WT Society.

You have said Nothing New except try as usual just exactly as your corporation "employers" also do which is to usually hide and cover up the atrocities by the JW organization all formerly and supposedly approved by Jehovah but Jehovah according to the America New York based Top 40 Richest Corporation is always a "Forgetful Being" who keeps flipping doctrines severally.

Why did you put the 144,000 in quote? Na JW manufacture the number or na wetin dey Bible? (Revelation 7:1-8, 14:1-5)
If your supposed exJW brother who was anointed deviated from the truth that's his business!
Jehovah God knows those who belong to him! (2Timothy 2:19)
All we know is that the anointed ones follow the counsel at 2Peter 1:10.
“Brothers, be all the more diligent to make your calling and choosing sure for yourselves, for if you keep on doing these things, you will by no means ever fail.”
The bolded states that an anointed Christian would only get his reward if he remains faithful to his death!
When you're ready, state your stand on Trinity and then we can take you serious.

TATIME:
This question puts idolaters in a tight corner!

Jesus said his teachings will break families, that means there is something the Mosaic law caused between the Israelites and other nations.
The commandments stood like a great barricade between the Israelites and all other nations.
So Jesus also came to establish the same kind of rules but this time it wouldn't be attached to a specific site. Back then whoever wants to offer any sacrifice to the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob must travel to Jerusalem and do so in the Temple. But Jesus said that will not be the case anymore, worshipers of God will offer sacred service to God in spirit and truth, this means they can offer their sacrifice anywhere they are but it must be in accordance with the word of God.
Jesus never instituted contradictions so the form of worship acceptable to God must be specified so that whoever feels like practicing lawlessness won't find it easy to stay.
Christendom Churches promotes lawlessness in worship, they can practice any kind of sacred services since it's not specified, Satan deceives them with the slogan "Jesus is Lord" with this slogan none of them claims to have the truth since all of them mimick the slogan. But when it comes to acting on what the slogan really means each will have his/her own PERSONAL opinion.
They're all aware of this fact that is why they will never attempt that question, only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES who are specific about the form of worship acceptable to their God can stand and say "if you're not ready to worship our God the way we do, you can't possibly be a worshiper of our God because our God is not a God of CONFUSION"

They are of the opinion that God doesn't have standards as to which kind of worship is acceptable to him. But Jesus said MANY would come in his name claiming that their form of worship entails performing signs and wonders and Jesus would say to them “I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!” Jesus knew that indeed many would claim to prophesy or cast out demons in the last days as we can see in churches today but Jesus will deny them ALL. (Matthew 7:21-23).
Even so when they want to appeal to a human being of superior authority in a company, they'll conform to the standards and protocols of that company.
According to them, their own form of worship entails comedy, music, drama, dancing and 2hours of their pastors shouting “God will change your story today” and their members echoing “Amen” every Sunday after the next.
When looking at all these things happening, 2Corinthians 4:4 & 2Timothy 4:3-4 should come to mind.

Maximus69:
Their agitation is not as a result of the teachings of JWs, rather it's the fact that only the group is standing tall amongst all other religious groups {Matthew 5:13-16 compare to Isaiah 2:2} and contrary to what they love to see Jehovah's Witnesses detests interfaith.

Note how they're all avoiding the $1M question, they love contradictions so that there shouldn't be any specific rule of conduct in worship, with that they can switch from one lane to another without hindrance! Matthew 7:13-14

The disrespect people have for God is appalling.
Even when someone is applying for a position in a corporate organization or writing a letter to the managing director of a company, there are certain standards the person must follow, such as how the letter should be constructed.
But when it comes to the worship of the Supreme Being, Jehovah God, all of a sudden it doesn't matter to them the manner in which the worship is rendered?
Indeed they are all workers of lawlessness (Matthew 7:21-23)

RussellRutherfo:
The hypocrites are even more satanic. Immediately, you wake up to all the atrocities done in the mold of JW doctrines and ask bold questions. You get disfellowished and next ostracized by your loved ones too.

Family Breakers exactly like the Devil who come first acting like the light but end up stealing, killing and destroying.

Sorry oo
But are the following scriptures in your Bible?

Romans 16:17
“Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned , and avoid them.”

Galatians 6:1
“Brothers, even if a man takes a false step before he is aware of it, you who have spiritual qualifications[the elders] try to readjust such a man in a spirit of mildness. But keep an eye on yourself, for fear you too may be tempted.”

Titus 3:10,11
“As for a man who promotes a sect , reject him after a first and a second admonition, knowing that such a man has deviated from the way and is sinning and is self-condemned.”

So when your aim is to cause division and create sects and to threaten the peace, oneness and unity in the Christian congregation, what do you expect to happen? Should Jehovah's Witnesses do what the Bible says or what you say? Should they as true Christians let such a poisonous person stay in their midst? Of course not, as we'll always follow Bible principles and counsel to the very dot.

RussellRutherfo:
The usual JW onslaught.

Wait until you start learning of many of their Elders, Circuit Overseers, Publishers as Child Abusers just like the Catholic Priest and many of their ever changing human doctrine supposedly "approved" formerly by Jehovah and their embarrassing attempts to explain them all away as "New Light" like some New Age idealists and you will be shocked.

These apostates have come again with their branded lies

RussellRutherfo:
Fraudster.
Greek Theos also means God and you selectively picked just "god" to fit your WatchTower Society lies. Even a glance at JW Kingdom Interlinear 1985 shows no where is the word "Jehovah" indicated but forced in a record 237 times by JW in other to further the false JW Arain teaching.

And this is why aside in the perverse New World Translation. They edited John 1:1. They also had to edit John 1:18 to be "god" instead of "God" or "Son" that Other translations render it as because John 1:18 is making it very clear to you that no man has seen or can claim to know God(Theos) except the very unique one who himself is God (Theos) has revealed God to us all(NLT).

John 1:18 NLT — No one has ever seen God. But the unique One, who is himself God, is near to the Father’s heart. He has revealed God to us.

Greek Text (TR)
Jhn 1:18 — θεὸν οὐδεὶς ἑώρακεν πώποτε· ὁ μονογενὴς υἱός, ὁ ὢν εἰς τὸν κόλπον τοῦ πατρὸς ἐκεῖνος ἐξηγήσατο

JW Kingdom Interlinear 1985 on John 1:18:

θεὸν Godοὐδεὶς no oneἑώρακεν has seenπώποτε· at any time;μονογενὴς only-begottenθεὸς godὁ the (one)ὢν beingεἰς intoτὸν theκόλπον bosomτοῦ of theπατρὸς Fatherἐκεῖνος that (one)ἐξηγήσατο.

Welcome strange one!
Please what is the name of your church and its stand on Trinity?

GRIMMJOE:
He can't function without quoting his book of illusion, every iota of common sense has left his brain.

But that “book of illusion” is the same book your supporter/atheist brother is quoting from
Why haven't you convinced him and all the people supporting you on this thread on the subject of “no God”? You can't do that because you're not even intelligent enough to hold a conversational debate. Your wannabe atheist brothers would just be laughing behind the scene on how foolish you've painted yourself to be.

GRIMMJOE:
Why didn't he say sister in Christ, because no ever says that, hence saying brother doesn't change the fact you're a middle age woman with boobs.

Lmao!
The more you keep calling me a woman, the more your supposed atheist brothers and supporters would keep distancing themselves from you because they've taken you to be a madman!
Note how many of them agreed with you on that allegation? Zero.
So keep acting dumb eyaa, let your atheist brothers use you as a form of amusement

rottennaija:
Bros, all these talk of truth are claims. Just claims. Like I said earlier, JWs don't have the truth, they can't even stand it. You can only claim to be in the truth, have the truth blablabla. When it comes down to it, you'll just be jumping up and down the place.

Your personal opinion sir! You don't impose that on any thinking person. Only those mentally weak like you.
This sums up my total comments I'll make regarding you on this thread. Don't quote me again. Thanks

rottennaija:
So was R. J. FURULI. At the end, he published this beautiful book. Eventually, you will understand.

You're not understanding me. I said I've gone past that stage long ago
All you're doing now is fruitless

rottennaija:
You see, this is the stupid thing about you people. You have not asked me anything about my Jw status neither have you known me. But here you are knowing I disassociated.

First of all, I never disassociated and I wasn't disfellowshiped. Second, the talk about God's people is merely a claim. If you are to investigate other religious groups, you will also find such claims.

From what Maximus69 said your parents brought you up in the truth but you didn't appreciate the truth so you're speaking injuriously of it. So that should mean you weren't even a publisher and you can't be dissociated for being a Bible student

rottennaija:
You see, this is the stupid thing about you people. You have not asked me anything about my Jw status neither have you known me. But here you are knowing I disassociated.

First of all, I never disassociated and I wasn't disfellowshiped. Second, the talk about God's people is merely a claim. If you are to investigate other religious groups, you will also find such claims.

Chief forget all these screenshots you're posting here
I've gone past that stage

rottennaija:
You see, this is the stupid thing about you people. You have not asked me anything about my Jw status neither have you known me. But here you are knowing I disassociated.

First of all, I never disassociated and I wasn't disfellowshiped. Second, the talk about God's people is merely a claim. If you are to investigate other religious groups, you will also find such claims.

Well you have taken a firm stand that you do not want to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses anymore so you have dissociated yourself already.

rottennaija:
Will that stop JWs from idolatry?

This mad man
What's your aim by posting all these screenshots here? All these show how weak you are and were in mind when you decided to dissociate yourself from the true organization of God's people.

rottennaija:
Bros, leave other groups first. Tell me, just one truth that JWs have.

Okay so I should come and do round two Bible study with you online abi? You know all the truths Jehovah's Witnesses preach and teach and live by.
Oga after lockdown go and meet your former congregation elders let them look for who will arrange Bible study with you. It's not me you're going to rope into that now!

rottennaija:
Dude, watchtower didn't have any truth. It's as simple as that.

Better find way after this lockdown, go to your former congregation and beg the elders to receive you back into the congregation. Because at this rate you're doing yourself more harm than good.
And this will be my final comment to you on this thread.