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cornelboy:
Sure, and their backup is the scriptures.
Some times ago, I used believe in Trinity too, but after meeting a JW from New Zealand at a Bible Discussion Group on facebook, I found out the truth.
Trinity is false doctrine, it's cannot be proved with the scriptures.
Jah bless the JWs. I'm not a JW, but I may be one in the future.

You're always welcome to study the Bible with us sir

Janosky:
You have done NOTHING wrong..

This is important step in the process of self discovery and development.

Recall that I had told you your Pastorpreneur is looking after his own personal interests .


The lessons you gleaned here is invaluable and more challenges are coming ( like the one your Pastorpreneur putting subtle pressure on your parents to censure you even to the extent of LYING about you. SMH).
The Bible truth is still the truth- John17:3,17.
Trinity GIBBERISH is a Man made SCAM.

Your salvation does not depend on your parents, or your Pastorpreneur but rather, on your personal relationship with Jehovah God and his son,Jesus Christ in association with Jehovah's servants. Matthew 10:32-40. John 17:3. Deut31:12. Acts 2:42. Acts3:13 Hebrew10:24-25. 1Corinthians 3:23.

Shalom.

Big facts!
The man doesn't have the stomach to come out on NL and speak.
Talmabout some sneaky stuff behind the curtain

Akinola100:
Yes, Sun and phone, both are dangerous. They emit radiation which can damage the eye, it's just that phone own is minute but still dangerous. Phones emit blue light (short wave rays possess greater energy) which damages those cells in the eye. People should just limit the amount of time they spend on their phones

But there's that eye care feature... So it shouldn't be a problem when using phones

Prism:
Sometimes I feel my optician is purposefully increasing the power of my lens because the higher it goes (-4,-5,-6 ), the more expensive it becomes. Because why in the world is my eye sight not improving? Infact it is getting worse with each increased prescription lens. Am I the only one who feels this way??

-6 you've gone far oo
Been using glasses since 2009 and I'm still on -4

MimieJay:
So, I am short-sighted. I started wearing glasses 15 years ago officially and that is more than half of my life. WOW!

Well, I’ve gotten used to it over the years so it doesn’t bother me anymore unlike when I just got my glasses. I’d hear stuff like “Oju igo, how far nah?” interpreted as “Four-eyes, how are you?” If you’re one of those people that make jest of people that wear glasses, then, my God will judge you o. Some even called me a nerd. But like I said, I have gotten used to it. I even slay with my glasses, makeup and all.

When I started wearing glasses, I started off as a consistent person but that one is a long story now. Because I avoid wearing my glasses regularly, my eyesight got really worse (what was I expecting, right?). I got used to not being able to see so many things. I even avoided reading billboards altogether.

Even now, I’m still not the regular ‘glasses person’, and considering the fact that the lens of my glasses is pretty thick, I have been playing myself. I get headaches most of the time because I have to strain my eyes and I still wouldn’t wear my glasses *I get coconut head. I no dey hear word*

Last year, after a lot of research anyways, I found out that there is something called LASIK surgery. I didn’t know that something could be done to correct your eyesight. I mean, glasses correct your sight over time or at least not make it worse yeah? But this would permanently correct your sight. Permanently! Yep guys! But I had just one tiny little problem.

SURGERY!

In the eyes!

Ah! What if it goes wrong?

Trust me now, you can relate to this especially if you grew up in Nigeria. So I just waved the whole surgery thought aside that 'ko necestree'. Urmm… I like my glasses. I don’t want to be blind pleaseeee…….

LASIK is a laser refractive surgery that reshapes the front surface (that’s the cornea) of the eyes. It enables light entering the eyes to focus on the retina without the aid of glasses or contact lens. In simpler English, you will see like normal people. It is ideal for patients who are shortsighted, longsighted or those who have astigmatism.

Since I am short-sighted, I opted for LASIK .

Actually, I got to know about LASIK back in Nigeria when someone close to me had his done and for a couple of days, he couldn’t see well and it was just so uncomfortable. Although this went away and he had 20/20 after some days but… I was there. I saw how uncomfortable he was. So I decided there and then that nahh…. this can’t be me.

About a week ago, a friend of mine, here in Dubai had his done and in less than a day, he could see perfectly well. It was that fast! I got gingered and I had to consider it. As luck would have it, where he had the surgery done, they were currently running a Ramadan promo where you pay almost half the actual price. You people will say I like awoof now. But it’s actually a great deal.

I went ahead to book an appointment at the North American LASIK centre here in Dubai and I was told not to wear my contact lens before coming for the surgery. Since I haven’t actually been wearing lens for a while now, I was good to go.

Now To My Experience…

On the day of my appointment, I had to go through a series of tests before the surgery. The first thing was to get my eye-power read. The machine read it to be -6 (minus 6) then a manual test was conducted and it read -5.5. They had to check my prescription glasses as well and it read -5 and -5.5. The doctor goes, “It’s not supposed to read this”. He said two of those readings were supposed to match at least. I almost panicked.

I was then given an eye drop to relax my eye nerves and I went for another test.

It was at this test that I found out I had been wearing the wrong prescription glasses for about 3 years. E shock you?! Me too! I discovered that I should be using a prescription of -3.75 thereabout and the current prescription I use reads -5. I wasn’t sure whether to be angry or happy. Happy because I might not be that ‘blind’ after all.

I proceeded to ask the doctor how I was able to see with the glasses for so long. He told me that my nerves accommodated it and that I needed to get my nerves in place before I can eventually get the surgery done. I was given another prescription and he recommended that I also get daily contact lens, disposable ones.

In short, I wasn’t able to get the surgery done. To think I was already anticipating how wonderful my sight would be and how I would pepper all the haters. It was a sad ending.

Thank you for reading.

So do you mean someone who is shortsighted should keep wearing glasses continuously?
I was thought it was the continuous use of glasses that made one to become fully dependent on it.

rabzy:
I never sent any mixed messages..sometimes you don't just want to barge into an ongoing discussion on any side..and often some people are not ready to listen to whatever you have to say, once they know your affiliations due to prejudice and bias. so sometimes you may choose not to announce who you are so that they can get a chance to listen before they close up tight

I totally understand.
But on that note, I think it should be necessary that one should know where someone is coming from, don't you agree?

rabzy:
I never sent any mixed messages. .sometimes you don't just want to barge into an ongoing discussion on any side..and often some people are not ready to listen to whatever you have to say, once they know your affiliations due to prejudice and bias. so sometimes you may choose not to announce who you are so that they can get a chance to listen before they close up tight

You did initially though but it's all good.
This is an online forum sir. Of course one would occasionally barge into ongoing discussions

rabzy:
Dappad...I don't want to pursue this discussion with you just for this same reason...go and check my posts on nairaland...dig a bit back..I have been more active in the sports space.
you talked about pure language..it is the whole body of truth that we speak and live by. On a faceless forum don't be so gung-ho on who someone is...you can't be absolutely sure
I joined this conversation asking maximus to use milder language...thats all...and then questions of who I am came in...the billions of unrighteous do not need to support the anointed brothers because they don't know their right from left and they would have the opportunity to learn and demonstrate their obedience during the millennial reign of Christ...so all of these people would be resurrected by Jehovah...that is the truth...and those were my comments. I wonder what language you want me to speak...maybe I should send you a zoom invite to see who the Christian life and preaching overseer is

I'm watching match now sir I can't read all of these
All I'm saying is that a JW will NEVER send mixed signals when communicating to others that he's a Witness. If you're truly our brother then you should be able to make it known openly, even to others on this thread.

GRIMMJOE:
Orderly indeed.

Just some page back DappaD was having a misunderstanding with another Jehovah's witness.

Janosky disagreed with maximus69 stand on pedophilie.

Use your chest and mention him please
If you're referring to rabzy, for the fact that he didn't speak the JW language, he can't be our brother

GRIMMJOE:
"well" DappaD is Maximus wife, two face of the same coin.

Lol! You must really think you're quite reasonable with all these your petty accusations

rabzy:
What about the billions of unrighteous ones, did they work with Jesus brothers.

If you can ask this sort of question, you're obviously not a Witness sir

rabzy:
Pls how did you come to such a strong conclusion and insult me on top

All of Jehovah's Witnesses speak the same pure language! Zephaniah 3:9
So you my dear sir are not ONE of us!

rabzy:
This does not mean you are inspired...application of the scriptures is different from making an inspired expression

Well you should have guessed by now..am a witness . Just bantering with you. I have missed another 80 pages of discussion.

With all due respect, you are not a Witness so shut up sir

Janosky:
Achorladey giving Evidence that JWs do not sweep rape/child abuse under the carpet

He didn't even realise it
Meanwhile the following link has rubbished all their claims of JW's ignoring abuse cases/shielding culprits

https://www.jw.org/en/news/legal/legal-resources/information/packet-jw-scripturally-based-position-child-protection/

DappaD:
The truth is that Jehovah's Witnesses have the most protective child sex abuse policy out of all religions because children are a gift from God. All these people coming here are just doing so to spread lies.

Don’t believe hearsay and rumour; see for yourself.
Here is a link...

https://www.jw.org/en/news/legal/legal-resources/information/packet-jw-scripturally-based-position-child-protection/

Here's the original post for anyone interested in how Jehovah's Witnesses handle child abuse cases.

The truth is that Jehovah's Witnesses have the most protective child sex abuse policy out of all religions because children are a gift from God. All these people coming here are just doing so to spread lies.

Don’t believe hearsay and rumour; see for yourself.
Here is a link...

https://www.jw.org/en/news/legal/legal-resources/information/packet-jw-scripturally-based-position-child-protection/

RussellRutherfo:
Don't you think Circuit Overseers,Publishers and Kingdom Elders, etcetera sleeping with JW underage children and sweeping over 50,000 of those cases under the "rug" is much worst and satanic than a discussion on Trinity?

Shey na your apostate fathers dey sub for you make you come NL dey talk rubbish abi

Maximus69:
At least John made it clear to his disciples that Jesus and his group have the key to everlasting life and instantly some of his disciples followed Jesus! John 1:35-38

Even when both were contemporaries, John still advised his followers to go and join Jesus' group because both groups are for the same purpose!

So if you're all for the same purpose you should be merging together as one and doing things in common not with this contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines!

Now that you've answered them in clear words, watch how they(especially rottennaija) will gradually shift off course. Kobojunkie tried the same with me

GRIMMJOE:
And this was suppose to score you a cheap point?

I only stated facts chief!
The people you're in agreement with on this thread believe that God exists, why haven't you been on their tail yet?

I can see atheists, exJWs, churchgoers all united in one thought despite their differing beliefs/stands
Very interesting.

MuttleyLaff:
God, appearing as a flame on bush, that wasn't not burning, is real. God that appeared as a pillar of fire at night, lightning up the way for the Israelites and as a cloud at day, shielding the Israelites, while travelling in the wilderness, is real.

God exists in everything. God exists everywhere.

Exodus 3:2, 14:19-20, 1Kings 8:43, 19:11-12 would disagree with what you claimed @the bolded oh. The accounts from the Bible stated that it was Jehovah's angel who appeared as a representative of Jehovah himself. And that Jehovah is not a manifestation of natural elements i.e. fire, wind etc but those natural forces are just expressions of his active force, his holy spirit.

Maximus69:
Jehovah is training us through his son who in turn is feeding us through the faithful and discreet slave.
So we're all on guard against Satanic devices of descension, no matter how the devil fashion his missiles it can never cause confusion amongst God's people the way he's doing with those on the opposition!
Let's give Jehovah all the glory! Revelations 4:11

True that brother!
The ravenous wolves have all woken up

MuttleyLaff:
You're not just, your bad. You're reprehensible
Next time, look carefully and take your time, before you leap. Mr "Gbọrọ mi, dẹ lẹrọ"

I'm not a Yoruba man sorry!

Maximus69:
I've tested so many religious groups after leaving Islam, though it's JWs that removed Islam from my mind with their teachings, but i tried to join a Christian group because i found it so irritating carrying bags and knocking people's doors due to my self-esteem back then, Trivina (my wife) who started studying with Jehovah's Witnesses for just 8 months have joined them in preaching from house to house yet i just want another Christian Organization that will not ask me to go out preaching. That's how i became Ajala travel through so many religious groups claiming Christians, one thing that baffles me is how they will tell you that it's not everything that's found in the Bible, there are certain things that is not written there yet the spirit teaches them!

That's when i realized that it's only JWs that are strictly following the instructions as stated in the scriptures, but all ended 2 years ago when Trivina told me "i know you're truly intelligent that's why i never bothered when you're going to other Churches, i'm 100% certain that you're coming back to the truth"

So it's not a new thing to me my brother, they're all spiritists, each follow a totally different spirit that's why they're having contradicting opinions but Satan so much blinded them to the point that instead of coming to agree within themselves, it's the one and only united family they're seeing as evil!

Their “spirit” teaching them is what is making them produce the different versions of Trinity. One said the spirit said his God is 3-in-one
One said the spirit said his God exists as an infinite number of persons. Another one will say Jesus and God are equal but not with their holy ghost and the cycle goes on and on.
That's why none of those useless trinity doctrines have basis in the Scriptures. They said it's their “spirit” teaching them about trinity. Okay oo
This “spirit” of theirs must be very misleading Their trinity fathers when translating the Bible took it upon them to add their trinity teachings in the Bible. John 1:1 and 1John 5:7 have both been tampered with in most translations of the Bible and that is what is spearheading their trinity doctrine

MuttleyLaff:
The person whom that post was directly at was mentioned and the poster knows who they are.

As for you, "O kere is number wa" loosely translated means, "you're just pooh stain, you aren't the pooh, itself, at all"
I don't understand why you've decided to take panadull for another man's headache. I suppose, its true that when a shoe is flung into an open air market place, the person who yelps out, is the one who got hit by the thrown shoe. Smh.
Pesin wey no sabi and not capable yet, of tying up hin shoelaces by hinself wan school somebody else.
Well maybe when pigs fly, that might be possible

You're talking trash my guy! My bad for mentioning you!

Maximus69:
We are Jehovah's Witnesses, that's our global family name!
We worship with oneness of spirit, wherever the spirit moves we follow! Ezekiel 1:12 compare to Revelations 14:4
It's easy for us (the sheep) to continue following our master {John 10:27} as one flock even though we're of two folds! John 10:16
So we are OK, we aren't pestering you, we know those who belong to our Master by just one language, if you're not speaking that language we take our leave, if we hear the language we stay and remain with you. Now you've declared that you're not of our sort, the case is settled!

No oo they are of the opinion that the Faithful and Discreet Slave should behave like the stubborn pastors of Christendom who know the truth but won't share with their members. So when the understanding becomes brighter on a particular subject, they expect the Governing Body not to update us
Truly the Governing Body are the “faithful and discreet slave” Jesus talked about at Matthew 24:45

Kobojunkie:
Precisely! He is the only teacher we have now through home only the Truth that is Jesus Christ's teachings we learn .

No other teacher is of Christ as anyone who pretends to Teach in the name of God, a message different from that which Christ taught is in DIRECT disobedience of Jesus Christ's own Commandments.

And we know that that those who say they love Jesus Christ but do not obey His commandments are liars and the truth, Jesus Christ, does not live inside of them.

Did I dispute the facts you mentioned above? You're always shifting off course
Jesus was the Great Teacher and he taught and preached about God's Kingdom - which are recorded in the Bible books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John. But did he commission other people to preach and teach about God's Kingdom in his name? Till now you've not been able to answer me. Something that Jesus said with his mouth o

MuttleyLaff:
brocab, dont mind the overgrown scallywag. He is of the opinion, that one can not learn from Jesus, proxy fellow human beings, who happen to be 1000% Jesus minded, 10000% Jesus orientated, 10000% Jesus' way(s) focused et cetera.

He doesnt appreciate that the Spirit of Truth individually and/or corporately, teaches, one and/or all, things (i.e. John 14:26 and John 16:13)

Are you scared to face me directly?
Why are you hiding behind the posts of others?
You know I'll school you
You'll just rush to conclusion without looking at all I posted
Btw your brother Kobojunkie believes that the entire Bible shouldn't be taken as God's word. Yes he said it with his mouth. All these people and their useless philosophy Abeg make una choose hustle stay there!

johnw47:
unstable mad max was not just any military personal
but a military intelligence officer that could destroy any
six ordinary military personal single handed

a puffed up and deluded person
joins a puffed up and deluded sect

Do you know that GRIMMJOE believes that your Trinity God does not exist and that he said it's just a myth? (Well, of course it doesn't exist). But why haven't you started calling him “liar liar” all this while?

Kobojunkie:
Enough for what? Enough to prove that you have just about mastered the art of rambling / arguing off topic for many pages?

@Kobojunkie, you call explaining Bible truths “rambling” abi ?
Okay oo

Kobojunkie:
Enough for what? Enough to prove that you have just about mastered the art of rambling / arguing off topic for many pages?

Lol!
You wanted to look for a valid excuse not to believe in the accounts of Peter and Paul but I put you back in your place because Jesus did commission them to preach and teach about God's Kingdom in his name!
While you say you only listen to Jesus' teachings and select which part you believe in, true worshipers of God(Jehovah's Witnesses) will take the Bible as a whole(including the historical accounts of ancient Israel, Jesus' teachings, the letters of Paul, James, Peter, Jude, John and the Revelation) as the inspired Word of God! (2Timothy 3:16)

Kobojunkie:
i never asked you if the Bible is God's word.

I never asked you why Jesus Christ is the great teacher

Okay so I'm lying?

Kobojunkie:
The one thing about the book is that it also contains the written word of God. Meaning? The book is not God's truth. The Word of God refers to the Words out of the mouth of God contained in the book.

Kobojunkie:
The greatest teacher that ever lived and the ONLY Teacher of those who are His followers, right?