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@Grey beard,

The statement below from a fellow nairalander sums up everything;

'You ask people simple questions and suddenly they become deaf, dumb and blind. They refuse to answer and when they do they respond to everything except what you asked. Or they gang up and "scatter" the thread so that issues are obfuscated. Then they paste long daft epistles. Finally, they go self-righteous pointing out your anger and quoting scripture out of place in an attempt to make you look bad. '


It's about the only truth you will get on this thread and it's deeply sad.

(More sad is the fact that these are people who claim to win souls for Jesus. How ironic.)

4. Is this Teacher  a disguised merchant?

One who tells you what you want to hear and has turned the church into a business mechanism that generates income for himself and his 'inner circle'.

Performs dramatic episodes in the name of unverifiable 'healing' yet flies his family abroad to get medical treatments.

Threatens cajoles you for not paying your tithes,offering, offer 7, first seeds and all other nonsense that is cherry-picked from the bible to suit selfish motives.

Does he/she wine and dine with the very same politicians destroying the country with corruption?

If you notice any of these traits please keep mute. Remember, 'touch not his anointed'

-Sigh-

Religion & Politics

Very close cousins.

Guys,

We can speculate, de-cipher and dis-integrate all we want, but please lets be honest in our dealings.

If you believe ROR is the most circulated book after the bible, fine, it is your opinion. However, your opinion does not make it a fact.

There are compilations of best selling books all over the internet from Credible independent observers all over the world, no mention of ROR in any list (that I knowof). So humble me and show me a list with ROR included that can ascertain your claims.

All I need to know is how you came to a factual conlusion that ROR is the second most circulated book in the world after the bible. Not, word of mouth but a comprehensive compiled data of that conclusion. Something different from my own bogus claim of selling 80 mill copies in two weeks. That is not too much abi?

And donnie, you are right, 'Mao Tse-tung' is a compilation but it still does not remove the 'fact' that his series is one of the most circulated in the world.

mba emeka:
these figures better be per month because just in 2010 october we distributed close to 50 million copies. this is just one month o! add it up from 2000 hitherto.

Ok, Mr Mba.

How did you reach those figures?  Are you part of the printing group that collates  or is that the figure given by the church?

I published a book last year and distributed 80 million copies in 2 weeks.

Unbelievable?  yes!!
Why? because I cant prove it to you.
So, how can you make me believe your figures wthout an independent verification just the way I cant prove my figures.

^^^^^^

Of course, I remember the girl in red!!!

She was highlighted. Apparently, according to the director's commentry, she existed during that period and was seen by some people when the Nazi guys where rumaging through the ghetto.

That movie had a huge impact on me and enlightened me on the level humans can go to descriminate the 'other'

donnie:
@dare2think
We have distribution numbers from our churches and partners around the world.
Do you know of any book that is more widely circulated? Name pls. . . so we can compare numbers.

Splendid!!!!

Mao Tse-tung - 820 Million Copies

A Tale of Two Cities- Charles Dickens-200 million copies

Harry Potter - 400 Million Copies


In no particular order. So, compare and state why your conclusion is a 'fact'

aletheia:
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Do you mean Schindler's List? That movie for me had an emotional ending. It's probably the only movie I recall bringing tears to my eyes.

My bad, yea Schindler's list. Very captivating movie. Sprinkles of h20 forced their way out of my eyes, had little control.

Liam neeson was immaculate as ever.

FXKing2012:
The present confusion in the camp of Boko Haram has nothing to do with the soldiers/govt, it's an infighting which even BH leaders can not explain and will lead to their demise.

Yet bomb are still going off!!  Care to explain why Oyedepo's curse is working like a faulty light bulb?

Or is it a partial curse??

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Besides the point.

Is it the second most circulated book?

If yes, how did you come to that conclusion.

Simple.

Joagbaje:
Rhapsody is the most circulated book in the word after the bible, what do you expect Satan to do. Congratulate you?

Mr Jo,

Is the above really necessary? why make bogus, untrue claims just to butress your point. At the end of the day, you guys will be claiming to be in possession of the holy spirit. Does the Holy Spirit lie?  Is the above your subjective opinion or an objective truth?

The sad thing about it is that deep down you know what you wrote is not true.

donnie:
Is that what is paining you? Like it or not, it is a fact.

Really?  
Fact based on what?

'sugar in my tea'

^^^^^^^

You are a joke.

So the curse only works when it suits your agenda.

Now that BH wantS to negotiate, something that is actually good and sane, the curse is working and oyedepo's 'spirit of insanity' curse is working abi?

LOL.

How come it did not work yesterday? You are a funny guy.

YOUR MAN OF GOD IS A FRAUD.

maddock:
Abeg @consultant take all these jobless people to qatar to go and do very hard manuallabour so dat they won't have this excess strenght to talk ill of my Pastor.

Erm, you are so busy that you have the time to talk about 'jobless' people?

Joker.

Omo_Tier1:
We have heard all of these before! Spirit that dwells in the poster of this thread must be an evil spirit. Howelse can you see a book that has changed lives from Nigeria to China, From USA to Pakistan! Come to Norwich prison in the UK, they have a big testimony of ROR, how that very messenger angel has turned lives around! Only a man working in tandem with the devil will see such good works being done and yet critize it!

@Grey, I told you yesterday,,  only time will reveal who you truly are!!!, May God in His mercy fetch you,

Millions of ROR are distributed every month and during street evangelism, ROR is given out for FREE,  do you have any idea at all how much it cost to produce a quality print like ROR and yet sell it for less than £3 Go to W.H.Smith and see how much a quality print magazines or less worth sell for!

I tell you this, the madman whose life was changed when He picked an old copy of ROR from the bin in Jo'burgh, S/A would perhaps see you as an unworthy to live individual.

You have a serious problem with money. Your spirit is a stingy spirit and you are a poor soul in real life, hence the reason you can not stand others who have money, ULTIMATELY, you are innately a jealous soul and you can not know true prosperity and joy unless you allow God's word and His spirit cleanse you with open heart!

STFU !!!!!

Bunch of fraudulent individuals defending a fraudulent activity perpetuated by a charlatan.  Who and where is the 'mad man' whose life was changed in s/a, who the hell are these mugs that think they can feed us bananas as though we are part of their congregation. Tell your 'unverifiable' stories to those silly enough to believe them.

So, what about 'Norwich prison'?? Do you know how many inmates Islam has changed too? both positively and negatively.

Who the hell are you to insinuate someone as 'unworthy to live'? Is that what Jesus taught you?? When people question your ministries industry's affairs, you mugs get all worked up and attach penury or jealousy as the catalyst. It only shows how selfish you are that all you are concerned about is what you can get or how you can pay your way to blessings.

Unfortunately for your kind, success is not limited to Christ Embassy or Christianity for that matter. Prosperity a natural phenomena that applies to everybody, Muslim, pagan, sikh, catholics and Christians.  

You or your fraudulent pastor hold no special access to anything.

Image123:
stop being such an humpty dumpty. Every child of God is God's anointed, not just pastors. irreligion.

Really!!!!!



Never knew,

Are you sure? I thought Our MoG's are far more important in God's eyes that they are beyond reproach from mere mortals like us. Their followers certainly give that impression.

Mmmm.

-shakes head after watching the video-


Sensationsm at its best.

They practically worshipped him and exalted  a mere man, where is Jesus' role in this?

Very soon a nigerian pastor will emulate this madness!!!

@ Frosbel,

I hope you see why I'm always against these charlatans. They created a demi-god in what is meant to be the house of God.

Pathetic.

Actually my brother, your Almighty Men Of God greed and bible twisting brethens are the real Anti-christs.

Nairaland is only a forum that encourages discussions, debates and freedom of information. For you to point the finger at the medium rather than address the fraudulent characters affecting the religion says a lot about you.

Is Nairaland spreading fake news? are they not only show-casing what other members are blogging?

When they put bad Nigerian practises on the front page does that mean they are anti-nigerian too?

If you want a 'anti-christ' free forum, why dont you let your charlatans build you one so you can mingle with like-minded individuals like you, afterall  they have the money.

stevenosa:
Hello Grey Beard, I believe you are not a Christian and as such you are out to ridicule the Body of Christ. May God forgive you and open your eyes to know the truth. Money is needed to preach the Good News. The people who are in the church - Christ Embassy, has any one of them come to complain to you that they are been scammed? Why are you investigating them members to know what is happening in their church? If you really want to know the truth, go talk to GOD and then He will tell you if the pastors are scammers or not. You had better don't allow the anger of God to come upon you for insulting His anointed.

Please STFU!!!!

How do you know who is anointed and who isn't?  You religious hypocrites cant handle truth, always quick to mention 'dont touch by anointed', why dont you quote the parts of the bible that talks about false prophets, greed and charlatans?

One more thing,so what if the OP is an anointed too? what happens then?

allboyz:
and the ROR is to reach Millions of people WORLD-WIDE AND YOU EXPECT IT TO BE FREE? why are Nigerians thoughts so porous?

do you think the Church is all about The ROR? no other free charity measures giving to the needy? and the members don't PARTICIPATE then where did you think the funds will come in?

lets be positive in our thought - it helps!!!

Good day!

Erm how much did your fore-fathers pay for  the Good news?? How much did you pay for the Gideons bible given to you  in your primary school?

Lol, commercialised Christian business model sure has a lot of customers.

Ofcourse,God favours his Pastors- they are his favourites to the extent that his judgment for them is different from the rest of us 'normal people'.

Remember? Touch not his anointed!!! whilst the rest of us, unanointed second-class folks, can be touched.

-Sighs-

Religion!!!

First he takes your money in the form of tithes and offerings, publishes jargon with the money, then sells it back to you. Hilarious.

Lol @ the foolish mugs.

FXKing2012:
I still dont get why you think Bishop's prayers does not work. How are you so sure?

Oyedepo's prayer worked very well!!!!

In fact, there is so much confusion in the boko-haram camp that they have managed to blow up more places even when the almighty Oyedepo placed curses on them.

Its very clear how these frauds are nothing but opportunistic charlatans that takes advantage of gullible people like you. Your man of God's guessing is becoming more embarrassing. lets wait for more nonsensical justification from him.

Just a few hours after I posted the above Kano is under attack!!!!

Your 'man of God' is a [b]Charlatan [/b]and his curses are as useless as a  addict's  promise.


So tell me, what is happening in Kano??  Rather than your fraudster to put pressure on the corrupt politicians to improve the pathetic security situation in Nigeria, he is sending imaginary curses.

Jokers.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-864511.0.html

stagger:
NO ONE HERE WILL MAKE HEAVEN CONDEMNING MEN OF GOD! Rather the bible is even replete with examples of people who cursed men of God (some of who were even in error) and they paid for it dearly.

More threats,threats and threats !!!!

The fear factor, the best weapon of choice by Charlatans.

It works all the time. Even to the extent that  some people have committed suicide just because a almighty God  MOG said so.

FXKing2012,

So, Oyedepo's curse has worked therefore no more bombs or killing from Boko-haram?

Lets hope so.

DawsanAuto:
Tithes: You MUST pay it, if you dont it means the windows of heaven will be closed against you and your finances - Simple. It is not your business what is done to the tithes/offerings/seeds etc. Most churches accounts are not even controlled by the pastors, they are controlled by the LCC (Local Church Council) made up of members in various fields of endeavors, they are the ones that determine what amount should be given to the pastor and his family as upkeep monthly. If they misuse God's money then it is them that'll suffer the consequences. You, having obeyed God's doctrine will still receive the full blessings - so why are you bothered about how the money is spent?

Utter Rubbish!!!

Please explain to me how people of other faiths have their finances 'closed' when they dont pay tithes?? you can believe the nonsense your fraudulent charlatans feed you but the reality is fortunately different. Their are multitudes of different people from all walks of life including Atheist, muslims, sikhs and catholics blessed with very bouyant finances and they dont pay your fraudulent tithes, so tell me, who is blessing them?

Or is financial success limited to 'tithe-paying Christians'?

No. (and the world is awitness)

OmoPastor:
Compassion for the poor does not give you better standing b4 the Master [/b]what matters is what you did with the gift of eternal life God gave you. You can keep eating your tithes for all you care but I will not stop doing it until Jesus comes. Until the poor learns to give he will remain poor no matter what you give him. The best gift you can give the poor is the gospel of abundance assured in Jesus Christ.

HA HA HA HA HA

[b]Classic!!!!

Dont you just love our Christian brothers.

^^^^^^^

I think Uyi-iredia was just trying to make a point if the case was reversed and not asserting that such countries exist.

@Uyi-iredia

I'm quite pleased with what you wrote and I'm sure your experience will further enlighten to as to how people can be victimised for holding opposing anti-popular views. I particularly agree with your statement with regards to Christians;

one expects better of the Christians given the example of Christ and how Christianity itself got off to a rough start amongst the Roman pagans.

Its funny how some Christians forget about their [b]persecuted [/b]history and assume the role of the [b]persecutors [/b]when it comes to those that share other views.

Tell me,

Where did God give the instruction to give to a self-acclaimed man of God?

I need specifics only

Joagbaje:
So giving to your parents is charlatans too?

Exodus 20:12
Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.

You are joking right?!!!!

Since when do Mog (Man of greed) become your parent?

Did he give birth to you?