₦airaland Forum

prettyjo:

And what is it that you can't seem to understand.

omojeesu:

I agree with you. It is unfortunate. But I am not about the right or wrong of Israeli action. It's about who owns the land. Every right or wrong done by Israel God ultimately will judge as He has always done. This whole thing IS BEYOND POLITICS. PROPHESIES ARE BEING FULFILLED IN REAL TIME.

The owners simply came back to their land! Check Wikipedia for Israel and Jerusalem. You can avail yourself of the historical details.

So you don't know how the Palestinians are being treated in Israel and how they are treated in their own territory by the Israeli army and you are talking? Wow!

omojeesu:
On the contrary their God said he gave it to the Jews - Sura 5.21

I am not into how Israel manages her relationships with the Palestinians. Hamas et al are the problem according to Israel.

But Hamas is just a small part of the equation. In fact they are a small part of the Palestinian people but the Israeli govt use them as the boogeyman: an excuse to suppress the Palestinians.
If you know what Arabs face in Israel or what they face in Palestinian territory you won't talk. It's like apartheid in South Africa. Israeli soldiers and Israeli citizens occupy Palestinian territory (outside Israeli borders) and impose apartheid rule while living the Palestinians helpless and without rights now tell me who the aggressor and the aggrieved is.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_the_apartheid_analogy

omojeesu:
The case of Israel is different. Very different.

Israel is a mystery! Uprooted 2 times in their history by Babylon and Rome they returned to the land God gave to them by promise to Abraham. There's NO NATION, TRIBE OR GROUP that was uprooted even once and successfully returned to their land.

Israel proves there is a God who makes promises and keep it.

THE FUTURE OF ISRAEL

After Hitler, the Jews are still going to be slaughtered by the Beast of the Apocalypse - for the last time. Then the Jesus they so thoroughly rejected will come to save them and they will morne in repentance. That's the Bible.

But the other side believe that their God also have it to them. So what do you say That?
WHAT do you also say to the Palestinian Christians and muslims ugh? What do you tell them? That they are inferior and that they don't deserve to have basic human rights and that they deserve to live under brutal oppression by the Israeli army who shoot at them with sniper fire whenever they protest?
Do you think God is like man who is partial and biased? Don't you know that God is also a God of justice and that he is no respecter of persons? (Righteousness and justice are the foundation of his throne).

idrisolayiwo:
This is nice idea. A way forward. I believe the police is grossly ineffective in its central function. In fact they have show so many times to Nigerians to be the opposite of what they represent. Policemen should actively be involved in this fight... But they are undertrained, unreliable and corruption within the police force makes it seem like the institution is under funded. Serious reform and ideas like yours can go along way to solve some of the 'police problems'

Police shoukd be accountable to the communities they serve and not to Abuja. The only thing the Fed govt could do is to help with training and funding of the police force through a security fund allocation it gives to states and a national police academy. That should be all.
The people in the community should be allowed to vote in the police chief (and even there judges) that way the police is more accountable to the people not the Fed govt. Ifthis happened you would hardly hear of police bribes because it would be difficult for you to extort your neighborfor bribes when your kids both play together in school.
Also, the police force that is drawn from the community would be more invested in protecting their community from thieves and outside invaders as opposed to some underpaid police recruit who has no ties to the local community. It's this simple my brother.

madridguy:
Aguiyi Ironsi really messed up our institutions.

Big time my brother. Almost all of Nigeria's problems can be traced from his regime to now. He is really the first person to centralize power and turn this country from a burgeoning republic yo a big mess that it is today.

madridguy:
Recruit more then.

Recruiting more soldiers is not the answer. What they should do is what we should have done years ago after we switched to democracy and scrap the federal police model and live policing to local communities just like the British did. This was an effective model for a country with a large population until Aguiyi Ironsi changed all that and centralized policing in the hands of the Fed govt Its no wonder we have a problem we are having so many security issues in this country.

StaffofOrayan:
Dude please be quiet.
If Buhari can't stop the killings he should step down.
That was one of the reasons GEJ lost.
But trying to convince us that we have to accept this killings is DOA

Wrong! Policing should be left to local communities not the Fed govt. They are stretched waaaay too thin. The less the the Fed govt has on its plate, the more effective they tend to be.

Like I have continually said, policing shoukd be left to local communities and not the federal govt but Nigerians won't hear. The Fed govt is stretched too thin.

laudate:
You have digressed totally from the questions, I had asked you earlier. You really need to do a lot of research before coming back to respond online. Intels has the concession for Onne sea port. For your information Onne sea port in the SS axis, has modern, efficient loading and offloading facilities.

Like i said earlier, maybe the ports are too shallow or maybe they don't have an adequate transportation system to move the cargo from the dock to the final destination.

laudate:
So, if Onne port is privately run by Intels (the concession has been suspended by the NPA, by the way) does it mean that importers cannot use the port to bring their goods into the country?

What in goodness name is Intels? I do not know what that is.

Also, to answer your question, maybe the ports are too shallow to allow bigger ships to dock, after all who wants to crash their ship into a shallow water port? Besides, what if those ports don't have adequate equipment for massive unloading operations. Unloading a ship could be a very massive undertaking if you don't know. Then after the unloading, you need the to be able to transport those goods to their final destination either via rail network or massive trailers which those other ports don't have.

zlantanfan:
I would leave but beg for time

You will leave?? Hahahaha, you and i both know that you are lying just to win an arguement. Either way, that's your choice. The fact that you will "leave" just as you claim does not mean that others are going to leave? So don't tell anyone what to do especially if you have not walked a mile in their shoes.

laudate:
So, if Onne port is privately run by Intels (the concession has been suspended by the NPA, by the way) does it mean that importers cannot use the port to bring their goods into the country?

No it means that other sea ports should be privatized so as to make them more functional.

autojosh:
Note, however, that the Intels’ Onne port in River state is Nigeria’s best run and perhaps the most active ports in the country. The Intels’ Onne seaport is a privately-run seaport within the same region as the abandoned ports.

Bros you just answered your question right there. Gbam!

Mcreloaded:
This woman deserve some accolade for even attempting to do damage control on this national disgrace where was she when the NSCDC boss blundered and floundered.
Nija which way

Wrong! There is a difference between trying to defend someone and lying. Like a wise man once said, the people need to be led, not misled.

DONSMITH123:
http://dailypost.ng/2018/05/17/presidency-reacts-video-igp-idris-struggling-read-speech-kano/

Wow!!!! This staggering that they would come and lie to the Nigerian people like this. Have you no shame ma?

oluwaahmed:
What about multiple taxation? Does d bill address this. If as a small biz I have to pay federal tax, state tax, LG tax and community tax how does biz strive.

Taxes are part of life o. As long as the taxes are collected once that's what should matter.

WHAT THE Fed govt should do is eliminate Fed taxes for 5 years for new companies then after, they can start paying at the usual rate.
They should also eliminate either the local govt tax or community tax. Only one should remain and it should be based on property value and not on revenue. In other words, if I own land or property that I use for my business then I pay taxes on it.
Finally, the tax rate on small businesses from the state and the federal level should be small and reasonable so as not to hamper their growth.
For example, one single tax bill of 16% of revenue where some go to Abuja,

Charbless:
soo i can now start my business abi?

Hopefully you can.

Babygiwa:
The 8th Senate led by Dr Abubakar Bukola Saraki on Tuesday passed a Bill to repeal and re-enact Companies and Allied Matters Act. The Bill comes 28 years after the passage of the original Companies and Allied Matters Act and will make Nigeria the best country in Africa to do business.
Ease of doing business plays a crucial role in the economic growth of any country. The processes, rules, and regulations set up by the government or government agencies can either help promote a business-friendly environment or hold businesses back from their entrepreneurial ambitions.
Nigeria ranks 145 out of 190 countries in the World Bank’s Ease of Doing Business ranking, which rates countries for the ease at which one can open, conduct and close down businesses.
This landmark reform by the Senate will provide significant benefits to companies by reducing red tape and making it easier to comply with regulatory obligations. Most of the changes are aimed at encouraging investments that will allow small businesses and startups thrive, lower costs and ease regulatory burdens.
Changes included in the Bill will mean that many of the over 75,000 private companies limited by shares which are established in Nigeria every year will be able to incorporate more easily, resulting in savings in professional fees and substantial improvements to the ease of doing business in Nigeria by comparison to our competitors.
The Bill will to spur more young people to start new enterprises. Among the changes which benefit those aspiring to start a company is the ability of a single person to incorporate a company. Allowing new young and innovative start-ups the opportunity to operate as separate legal entities without the risk of loss of their personal assets.
In addition, small companies will no longer be required to have a company secretary or hold Annual General Meetings. The requirement for statutory declaration of compliance has also been removed.
Minimum share capital required for companies to be registered has been reduced to encourage more investments in small companies and individuals will no longer need a lawyer to register a company. To further facilitate registration and compliance the E-Registration and filing system has been enhanced.
The introduction of LLP as a new business vehicle will act as a step towards converting the informal, undocumented sector into a formal and regulated regime. The incorporation process is less stringent and formal as compared to a limited liability company.
New regulations have been introduced to revive ailing companies. A company can now reach compromises on its debts and for businesses which are nearly insolvent a new process for administration has been introduced which will enable such businesses to keep running under the supervision of an Administrator for a period of 12 months.


https://www.thebreakingtimes.com/saraki-led-senate-passes-historic-business-reform-bill/

Awesome. This is quite some good news. My question is why did it take them such a long time? Anyways better late than never sha.

omojeesu:
Didn't Mohammed say Allah gave the land to them, the Jews. They were kicked out of their land as punishment from God. The same God facilitated their return to the land He gave them according to Biblical prophesies. The people there were squatters on another man's land. The landlord came back and still allowed them space in Gaza and West Bank yet they are not satisfied talking about East Jerusalem as their capital.

Arabs have extensive land mass. They can't accommodate their own Palestinian brothers. They want to squeeze out the land owners. Arabs have never and can never be their brother's keeper.

I share your sentiments but the truth must be told.

That's like saying I should evict you and kick you out of Nigeria so you should move to Togo simply because Togolese people are black just like you. Let's see how you react.

zlantanfan:
bro all you talk about is centered around 1948, I understand you seek justice but their can be no Justice without truth.

Its not about what the British did or how they did it, the truth is that before Palestine existed that land had been Israels.

If someone asks me to leave a land i know i had only be occupying for the real owners I would leave but beg for some leverage that simple

So if someone told you to leave your own land that you were born and raised in simply because they believe that their own God that they worship promised it to them thousands of years ago, you will pack up and leave right? Gotcha.

omojeesu:
The American Indians analogy is not it. They were never exiled. They remained in America despite the injustices against them. The Jews were literally uprooted from their land and returned by divine arrangements to possess their possession.

The American Indians were uprooted from their own native lands and sent to reservations far away (America is the size of a continent) where tons of them died on the way and that's where a lot of them still live to this day.

IamPlato:
...


Did He Force You To Open Your Leg?

You do know it takes two to tango right?

zlantanfan:
bro trust me i understand their situation but practically it happened to my uncle who bought a land and built on it for more than 20 years it was home, but a time comes when another man comes to say it was his uncle that sold it not his father the rightful owner their father.

The present occupant had documents same with the son of the late man.
There was not settiment attached they went to history (the king in the town) who settled actually the origin of the land in favour of the son and only begged the son to give the occupant time to leave.

I understand again their homeless or stateless problem with Palestine but they have the luxury of Iran which is bigger that UK and France together.

The whole issue shows its a problem beyond state matter as their Arab countries just want to put them in that state as excuse for claiming lives and creating terrorists.

Dude I am not talking 20 years here. I am talking about thousands of years for goodness sakes! The Arabs are indigenous to that land also and believe it was there own God given land also. So what are you talking about? That's like telling all Americans to leave America so that the native American tribes can come back to reclaim their own land.
Facts are the when the British colonialists promised the jews a Jewish state in Palestine there were only 3-5% of jews living there at the time. They did not even include the Palestinian people in talks at that time. Heck No! They just said hey, the jews are going to get their own country and that the jews should not discriminate against non-jewish population there (over 95%) well guess what? non jews are being discriminated to thos very day in that region. The Israelis make life unbearable for them. They have few rights and fewer economic prospects and you want them to walk away from their father land just because you said so, are you kidding me?
Truth of the matter is that being a jew is a religion, not a race therefore all the Arabs there who are native to that land are just as entitled to that land and probably more so than the so called white people living in Israel who call themselves jews even if they look nothing like original jews who lived there thousands of years ago.

zlantanfan:
I don't know what history can be older than their Koran, bible including arechology that have pointed out that before even the romans came their they meet Jews, if some imposter comes to temporary occupy the place does it makes it theirs.

Israel that has just 0.1 percent of population should not secure itself.

If the Arab world is truly sincere they would say hey Palestinians sorry for your plight do come to Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Egypt. They really do have enough lands to give Palestine 3 countries if they wanted but they only want to play politics

Ask yourself honestly would Arab allow Jews or Christian to have any single claim to mecca or anything.

But Israel which has just that tiny land accommodated Islamic greatest prilgrim site and today remains the only tolerant nation outside Europe that integrates Islam, Judaism, Christianity side by side both in language and culture and everything.

Which other Islamic nation can do that not every turkey in a supposed Europe.

Israel has tolerated enough but you must understand it is a common enemy in the islam even outside middle east.
It really needs to take measures to protect itself everyday.

As a sovereign nation that it is her people are growing and expanding, they need spaces and are not begging Arab neighborhors, they really don't have any other place to look up to in the middle east because they are an endangered species.

Can't the Arab world take their Arab brothers to safety while they negotiate Arab sites sacred to their Islam with Israel which must remain intact

So can you imagine someone coming to your house and telling you that your land belongs to him and his people and that they lived there thousands of years ago therefore you and your ilk should evacuate and move to a different country to join your "brothers". Let's see what your reaction would be.

omojeesu:
1) Explain Sura 5.21
2) Israel was existing 3000 years before 70AD
3) They merely returned to their land after having been in the diaspora for close to 1900 years.
4) Before 1948 there was no nation recognised as Palastine by the United Nations.
5) The fall of Israel and her end times recovery are prophesies in the Bible.

Israel was wiped out by the Romans around 2000 years ago and as a nation it ceased to exist and that entire region was termed Palestine. Palestine is not a country but the name of a region (a la Carribean) and yes you can say that the Jews came back to their land but can you imagine someone coming to your house and telling you that your land belongs to him and that his people lived there 3000 years ago. What would be your reaction?
Now take that a step further and imagine if this people kick you and your family out of your land and won't let you go back so here you are stuck in a refugee camp with no future and you have no where to go. Let me see how you would react.

dealslip:
Talk about your own IDPs at home here in the North. The people kicked out of their homes by Fulani herdsmen and their home taken over by same. When will they return home.

Like i said in a previous comment, i don't know much about that situation to comment on it.

dealslip:
What is your opinion on the people chased out by Herdsmen in Benue and their land occupied by Fulani herdsmen. When do you think they should go back home too. You seems to be very knowledgeable about the Palestinians dilemma but haven't compared it to the dilemma of the people in the exactly the same trauma back at home in Benue, Taraba etc

I am not very knowledgable on the Herdsmen issue in Benue so i don't think i can comment on that.

zlantanfan:
you have been listening to propaganda, Arab world have enough countries why don't they start spreading their lands from their countries to Gaza if Palestine need a country that bad

I don't need to listen to propaganda my friend i just need to learn history (which i am a fan of). Arabs have lived in Palestine ever since the Romans destroyed Israel and scattered the Jewish people to the wind. They are native to the land than a lot of the people who live there today yet this people have no rights, no country and no economic prospects. How far can you push someone before they snap?
The problem with a lot of folks is that they get a lot of their knowledge through the news which is not bad per se but you gotta learn history to understand what the underlying issues are.

boynigeria:
Bakassi peninsula was returned back to Cameroon, you dont see Nigeria whinning about that.

How can Palestinians think its their home, i just dont understand, even before being declared part of Isreal in 1948, it was been between Isreal/Jordan rule.

Wrong, Israel did not exist until 1948. That entire region was called Palestine and even after the Romans had wiped out Israel and dispersed all its people abroad there were still Arabs living there in fact when Palestine was under Ottoman Rule and the Jews started trickling into Palestine there was peace between them and the natives for the most part until the British deposed the Ottomans (Turks) and decided to create a country named Israel.

OFFICIAL336:
Those people were they living there 1500 BC? Were they there 70 AD? They should go back to Jordan.

Yes, Arabs have lived in Palestine for centuries even after Titus led his Roman Legions to completely destroy the kingdom of Israel. A lot of these Arabs are native to the land as compared to the likes of majority of "Jews" who live there today.

Just in case you didn't know, being Jewish is a religion, not a race or ethnicity. What that means is that if i convert to Judaism today like Ivanka Trump then i have more rights to Israel than the average Arab who is native to that land. How does that even make sense?

Rutheby:
The government has done more harm I think

Govt has no right running football. In fact, they have no right running anything. The less the govt has has in its portfolio the more effective it is.
If the govt had left the oil and gas industry, our universities, our hospitals then most likely Nigeria would have been better off today but here we are in the 21st century with a highly centralized federal govt that wants to control basically everything that has to do with the economy and people are wondering what's going on. The job of the govt is to create a secure and conducive environment for businesses to thrive and to make sure people are following the rules not to be running our refineries or determining who gets to import oil into the country or not.

Govt is not the solution, govt is the problem - Ronald Reagan.