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Christianity EtcRe: Some Reasons Why Religious Men Wanted To Kill Jesus by davidinchrist(op): 12:45pm On May 17, 2020
26 But you don’t believe me because you are not my sheep.
John 10:26

27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.
John 10:27

33 They replied, “We’re STONING you not for any good work, but for blasphemy! You, a mere man, CLAIM to be God.”
John 10:33

34 Jesus replied, “It is written in your own Scriptures that God said to certain leaders of the people, ‘I say, you are gods!’
John 10:34

37 Don’t believe me unless I carry out my Father’s work.
John 10:37

39 Once again they tried to arrest him, but he got away and LEFT them.
John 10:39
Christianity EtcRe: With Jesus Outside Or With Men Inside, Where Are You? by davidinchrist(op): 9:55am On May 17, 2020
John 6:66-68 KJV
From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

[67] Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

[68] Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
Christianity EtcRe: Some Reasons Why Religious Men Wanted To Kill Jesus by davidinchrist(op): 9:50am On May 17, 2020
John 10:30-31 KJV
I and my Father are ONE.

[31] Then the Jews took up stones again to STONE him.
Christianity EtcRe: Some Reasons Why Religious Men Wanted To Kill Jesus by davidinchrist(op): 9:48am On May 17, 2020
Janosky:
Bros , don't confuse yourself.
where is holy spirit in John 10:30 ?

John 17:22, "that they (Jesus followers) be One just as we (Father and I ) are one."
Jesus Christ says you have zero understanding of John 10:30.
1 Cor 3:6-7, Paul and Apollos (Jesus followers) are one just as Jesus and his Father are one.
John 10:30, Jesus and his Father are united, they walk together just as man and wife are one, walk together. Matthew 19:4-6.


Point 2:
Can you show us where anyone in the Bible was baptized in the name of the father, the son and holy spirit?
There is none in your Bible,no deceive yourself.

Is Tom ,Dick and Harry the same person?
Have you forgotten that Jesus Christ told you
"God is a Spirit", NOT 3 spirits ?
I know Revelations 3:5,12 and John 20:17,30-31.

Do you agree Spiritual realm is stronger than physical realm?
There is no justification for the false doctrine of Trinity.
Jesus Christ says Revelations 3:5,12 and John 14:28 are immutable,irrevocable TRUTH, hammering the coffin of Trinity.


Bros, stop deceiving yourself.
Shalom.
Okay friend, goodbye.
Christianity EtcRe: Too Rich To See God by davidinchrist(op): 9:29am On May 17, 2020
Mark 4:19 KJV
And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.
Christianity EtcRe: Some Reasons Why Religious Men Wanted To Kill Jesus by davidinchrist(op): 9:18am On May 17, 2020
Janosky:
In John 5:18 , the Jews LIED AGAINST JESUS.
Jesus Christ NEVER claimed he is equal with God.
That LIE in John 5:18 is the false doctrine of Trinity.
The truth was revealed in John 19:7

"The Jews answered him, “We have a law, and according to our law He ought to die, because He made Himself the Son of God."

It's never a crime to call God your Father or say are the son of God.
Jesus statement doesn't make him equal to God.

STOP deceiving yourself.

John 4:24 "God is a Spirit".
John 17:3 , the One True God is a Spirit.
Jesus Christ says himself is NOT the One True God..
John 14:28, the Father(God) is greater than I am.
1 Cor 11:3 , God is the head of Christ...
1 Cor 3:23" You belong to Christ. In turn, Christ belongs to God"


God is not 2nd person of your fake doctrine.
Okay friend, this is not for argument, but for you OR others who care;

Listen to the Words of Jesus Himself:

John 10:30 KJV
I and my Father are ONE.

Matthew 22:42-43 KJV
Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David.

[43] He saith unto them, How then doth David in Spirit CALL him Lord, saying,

Matthew 28:19 KJV
Go ye therefore, and teach ALL nations, baptizing them in the NAME of the Father (1), and of the Son (2), and of the Holy Ghost (3):

However, if you still don't agree, again okay, no problem. I don't justify myself.

Thanks,

Goodbye.
Christianity EtcRe: Some Reasons Why Religious Men Wanted To Kill Jesus by davidinchrist(op): 7:59am On May 17, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
As in the other thread, you have have again claimed to change the the direction of the header of your thread. I'm beginning to wonder, is this deliberate?
Yes, cos we need to deal with the root first, not the branches or fruits.

Thanks.
Christianity EtcRe: Too Rich To See God by davidinchrist(op): 7:25am On May 17, 2020
Psalm 62:10 KJV
Trust not in oppression, and become not vain in robbery: if riches increase, set not your heart upon them.


Psalm 37:16 KJV
A little that a righteous man hath is better than the riches of many wicked.
Christianity EtcRe: If You Are Still Under The Law/Old Covenant, You Have ZERO Hope In Christ by davidinchrist(op): 6:19am On May 17, 2020
eplanning:
What about those who keep the Commandments and still have hope in JESUS?


Revelation 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Friend, the question is, do we want to argue or learn?

I've got no time for argumentative people, I just ignore...

Please, read patiently: it's free. I quoted several verses to help people understand easily.

Summary:
Jesus has fulfil/ended (fulfil here means TO END) the LAW of Moses (flesh).

We are now to live according to the Law of the Spirit (Christ), which is LOVE:
1. Love God with your entire life.
2. Love your neighbour as yourself.

Jesus said, whoever does that fulfils the Whole Law.

Matthew 22:37-40 KJV
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

[38] This is the first and great commandment.

[39] And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

[40] On THESE TWO commandments hang ALL the LAW and the prophets.

Please see the original post again, IF you don't mind.

May Jesus Bless You.
Christianity EtcRe: Some Reasons Why Religious Men Wanted To Kill Jesus by davidinchrist(op): 5:56am On May 17, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
Bros, you are wrong. It is not blindness, it is Pure Undiluted Evil. Did Christ not directly call them the Children of Satan, in John 8:44?

As Christ said obey and keep the commandments. Mathew 19:16/17. If you still do not know how to keep the commandments, then "eat his flesh and drink his blood" which is all the words He taught us as his words are "Spirit and Life". John 6:63.

This is all you need to obtain eternal life.
Jesus said blind leaders ("spiritually blind" ) would lead their followers into the ditch (Hell).

Friend, I've answered you already on the other thread.

Matthew 15:14 KJV
Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

Finally, if you still disagree after all that, no problem.

Thanks,

Good bye.
Christianity EtcRe: If You Are Still Under The Law/Old Covenant, You Have ZERO Hope In Christ by davidinchrist(op): 5:41am On May 17, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
Once again you are in error, for is it not written "I am the Lord, I CHANGE not"? Malachi 3:6.

Did Christ not directly say that He came to fulfill the Law? Mathew 5:17/18.

Has the Law ever been changed or amended whether old or new?

Careful friend, you would be causing others to err from the word of Life.
Friend, did you even read through my posts OR you just glanced through?

Or you don't believe the Bible (especially the new testament)?

Or you're looking for someone that supports your Religion/Church/Pastor?

If you're not willing to humble yourself and patiently read, it means you're not HUNGRY but just seeking to disturb others.

The word of God is meant for the Hungry: POOR in Spirit. Matt 5:3-10

A person that's not Hungry can wait.

However, I'm not trying to establish an argument or a debate with you; I'm not here to justify myself or ANY Pastor/Church, but to glorify Jesus.

Please reread them, if you don't mind.

May Jesus Give You Light.
Christianity EtcSome Reasons Why Religious Men Wanted To Kill Jesus by davidinchrist(op):
Spiritual blindness is very dangerous for us; may we get light in everything:

If we would seek to follow Jesus for real, we must surely expect oppositions, rejections, insults and the likes from unbelievers and even so-called "believers".

I think it's high time we started judging ourselves instead of using our magnifying glasses to judge others.

These attitudes of Judging others have blinded us so much that even things that are clearly or BOLDLY written in scripture become a mirage.

People that do not want or believe in the Truth (Jesus) will always be ANGRY, and even try hard to KILL the Truth:

John 5:16-18 NLT

16 So the Jewish leaders began harassing Jesus for BREAKING the Sabbath rules.


17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is ALWAYS working, and so am I.”


18 So the Jewish leaders tried all the harder to find a way TO KILL HIM. For he not only BROKE the Sabbath, he CALLED God his Father, thereby making himself EQUAL with God.

Jesus is God (Second Person), and has "fulfilled/ended" the LAW so that True Worshipers would Worship in Truth and in Spirit (in Faith and Obedience).

John 4:24 KJV
God is a Spirit: and they that Worship him must Worship him in spirit and in Truth.

May we get light and not try to know better than Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
Christianity EtcRe: If You Are Still Under The Law/Old Covenant, You Have ZERO Hope In Christ by davidinchrist(op): 8:29pm On May 16, 2020
John 5:16-18 NLT

16 So the Jewish leaders began harassing Jesus for BREAKING the Sabbath rules.


17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is ALWAYS working, and so am I.”


18 So the Jewish leaders tried all the harder to find a way TO KILL HIM. For he not only BROKE the Sabbath, he CALLED God his Father, thereby making himself EQUAL with God.
Christianity EtcRe: If You Are Still Under The Law/Old Covenant, You Have ZERO Hope In Christ by davidinchrist(op): 7:02pm On May 16, 2020
sonmvayina:
May superman bless you....

I don't worship idols.. I only worship my creator and follow his laws and commandments.. I am OK with that.. I don't need a white man or jew to know God.. All the Gods of heaven and all on earth lies within me...
Oh, I'm sorry to have bothered you, I thought you believed in Jesus; I no longer have businesses with the movie industry either.

Anyway, Good bye.
Christianity EtcRe: If You Are Still Under The Law/Old Covenant, You Have ZERO Hope In Christ by davidinchrist(op): 6:24pm On May 16, 2020
sonmvayina:
Did God not say his laws where to last forever... If I may ask, which God do you worship? Or referring to.. Because I sincerely doubt if it is the creator of the universe or the father of Jesus..
Brother, I know it's difficult to accept it, but it's definitely true.

I don't argue nor try to by any means convince anyone, but I would encourage you to reread the post a bit more patiently; OR at least go through the Bible verses I quoted, "IF you don't mind."

I got convinced through the Word and Holy Spirit, I believe that's the will of God, so most times (if not ALWAYS) I usually back up my posts with scriptures.

However friend, if you still disagree after all that; okay, no problem. I don't justify myself either.

Thanks,

May Jesus Bless You.
Christianity EtcRe: Beware Of The Gospel Of Antichrists by davidinchrist(op): 4:37pm On May 16, 2020
Matthew 7:20 KJV
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.


Matthew 24:5 KJV
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Christianity EtcRe: Painted Reality by davidinchrist(op): 4:33pm On May 16, 2020
Matthew 7:20 KJV
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Christianity EtcRe: If You Are Still Under The Law/Old Covenant, You Have ZERO Hope In Christ by davidinchrist(op): 4:23pm On May 16, 2020
"But I warn you—unless your righteousness is better than the righteousness of the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven!"
- Matthew 5:20 NLT
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Difference Between Being Spiritual And Being Religious? by davidinchrist(m): 10:47pm On May 15, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Jesus never claimed to be spiritual in his dealings with his disciples though, and He condemned religious living of all kinds. It was the pharisees who claimed all sorts of spiritual and ancestral connection to God.
In my experience, Spiritual Christians are simply religious Christians with a more NT leaning take on their religion. Majority of them tend to be Paulians(they like to take the words of Paul out of context); they are just Christianities download of the "Pharisee" bug... grin
Okay, your opinion. I tried to balance my own opinion from my first line with the entire part altogether.

Always welcome to be disagreed with as much as I might strongly disagree with others too.

Please, chew this over, IF you don't mind:

James 1:26-27 KJV
If any man among you seem to be "religious", and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's "religion" is vain.

[27] Pure "religion" and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Romans 8:6 KJV
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

May Jesus Bless You.

Good bye.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Difference Between Being Spiritual And Being Religious? by davidinchrist(m): 10:16pm On May 15, 2020
They're literally THE SAME, but in a sense:

Being Religious = Old covenant life/Living under the Law (either by Moses, Pastors or other Men).

Being Spiritual = Living by faith in Obedience to Jesus/Under grace in Christ.

Summary:

Religious = Law/OLD covenant/External
Spiritual = Love/faith/Obedience to Jesus/INTERNAL first, then external (New covenant)

Examples:

Pharisees and Religious doctors/teachers = Religious

Spiritual = Jesus (and his followers like Paul, etc)

2 Corinthians 3:6 KJV
Who also hath made us able ministers of the NEW testament; NOT of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter Killeth, but the spirit giveth li
LIFE.

May Jesus Bless You.
Christianity EtcJust One Sinner by davidinchrist(op): 8:36pm On May 15, 2020
The whole earth got into all sorts of troubles: sicknesses and all physical and spiritual calamities because of one man's disobedience.

However, thank God for the hope of salvation in Christ, IF we choose to Repent and do God's will for the rest of our lives.

Romans 5:19 KJV
For as by ONE man's "disobedience" many were made SINNERS, so by the "obedience" of ONE shall many be made RIGHTEOUS.

Romans 5:12 KJV
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death PASSED upon all men, for that all have sinned:

James 2:11 KJV
For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

1 Timothy 2:4-5 KJV
Who will have ALL men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the TRUTH.

[5] For there is ONE God, and ONE mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

May Jesus Bless You.
Christianity EtcRe: NoBody Can Pluck You Away, But You Can Choose To Walk Away By Yourself by davidinchrist(op): 5:08pm On May 15, 2020
Galatians 6:9 KJV
And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, IF WE FAINT NOT.
Christianity EtcRe: With Jesus Outside Or With Men Inside, Where Are You? by davidinchrist(op): 5:04pm On May 15, 2020
Matthew 19:21 KJV
Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
Christianity EtcRe: Please I Need Response From Spiritually Mature Christians by davidinchrist(m): 1:12pm On May 15, 2020
Eulalia:
Is it right for a bornagain sis to marry a divorced Christian bro that the ex wife is still alive?
As in, lets say the Bro is a real believer but just got out of a young marriage not up to a year due to infidelity issues.
If the brother has been refunded the dowry and other things. Is he free to remarry. And if he's a pastor.

Please urgent answers from mature ones.
Thank you.
No, whoever does commits adultery. (See Matthew 19:3-11)

May Jesus Bless You.
Christianity EtcRe: With Jesus Outside Or With Men Inside, Where Are You? by davidinchrist(op): 9:05am On May 15, 2020
Matthew 5:16-17 KJV
Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

[17] Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Christianity EtcRe: NoBody Can Pluck You Away, But You Can Choose To Walk Away By Yourself by davidinchrist(op): 8:25pm On May 14, 2020
15 They have wandered off the right road and followed the footsteps of Balaam son of Beor, who loved to earn money by doing wrong.
2 Peter 2:15 NLT
Christianity EtcRe: Painted Reality by davidinchrist(op): 8:20pm On May 14, 2020
2 Peter 2:21-22 KJV
For it had been BETTER for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it , to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

[22] But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit AGAIN; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
Christianity EtcWith Jesus Outside Or With Men Inside, Where Are You? by davidinchrist(op): 7:20pm On May 14, 2020
True followers of Jesus should always stay with Jesus "anywhere" he stays or wants them to stay: they shouldn't be Inside when they ought to be Outside, nor Outside instead of being Inside.

Lots of Religious Organization/Denominations and Churches have SHUT OUT Jesus and His Words, because of the LOVE of the World: Money and Popularity with People.

They preach interesting STORIES/TESTIMONIES because they understand the Law of DEMAND and Supply: people want to hear Stories, Testimonies and Interesting Religious Lies.

They wouldn't like to HURT people by telling them the TRUTH: to Repent of Sins; to LOVE and OBEY Jesus from the HEART; to die to Self; to take up the Cross and follow Jesus DAILY.

Question:
If Jesus is still at the DOORS of the vast majority of these Religious Organizations/Churches KNOCKING, then as true believers, what's our Business inside?

John 12:26 NLT
26 Anyone who WANTS to serve me MUST follow me, because my servants MUST BE WHERE I AM. And the Father WILL HONOR anyone who SERVES me.

Revelation 3:20 KJV
Behold, I STAND at the DOOR, and KNOCK: if ANY man hear my voice, and OPEN the door, I will COME in to him, and will sup with him, and he WITH Me.

Luke 9:23 KJV
And he said to them all, IF any man will come after me, let him DENY himself, and TAKE UP his Cross DAILY, and FOLLOW Me.

John 14:15 KJV
IF ye "love" me, KEEP my commandments.

May Jesus Bless You.
Christianity EtcRe: NoBody Can Pluck You Away, But You Can Choose To Walk Away By Yourself by davidinchrist(op): 8:45am On May 14, 2020
1 Corinthians 9:27 KJV
But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have PREACHED to others, I myself should be a CASTAWAY.

2 Peter 2:15 KJV
Which have FORSAKEN the right way, and are gone ASTRAY, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who LOVED the wages of unrighteousness;
Christianity EtcRe: Painted Reality by davidinchrist(op): 8:21am On May 14, 2020
Mark 13:5-6 KJV
And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:

[6] For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ ; and shall deceive many.
Christianity EtcNoBody Can Pluck You Away, But You Can Choose To Walk Away By Yourself by davidinchrist(op):
While it's true that NO ONE can pluck a Believer away from God according to John 10:28, yet WE OURSELVES CAN CHOOSE TO WALK AWAY or Stop Obeying/Abiding in Jesus, and still end up in Hell.

Moreover, Jesus won't get anybody by the scruff of the NECK and say, "Hey, Common On! Don't go to Hell!"

No, he won't.

God won't overrule our FREE WILL, otherwise we'll become something like Programmed ROBOTS.

We must seek to be balanced to avoid false teachings.

Please, see some (if not ALL) of these Bible verses down below, "IF" you don't mind:

Matthew 19:22 KJV
But when the young man heard that saying, he WENT AWAY sorrowful: for he had GREAT "possessions".

Matthew 8:21-22 KJV
And another of his "disciples" said unto him, Lord, suffer me FIRST to go and bury my father.

[22] But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their DEAD.

John 15:6 KJV
If a man ABIDE NOT in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them INTO THE FIRE, and they are BURNED.

Matthew 7:19-20 KJV
Every TREE that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast INTO THE FIRE.

Luke 8:13 KJV
They on the rock are they , which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have NO ROOT which for a while believe, and in time of temptation FALL AWAY.

1 Corinthians 10:12 KJV
Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he FALL.

Hebrews 6:6 KJV
If they shall FALL AWAY, to "renew" them again unto "repentance"; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an OPEN shame.

Luke 9:62 KJV
And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to THE plough, and LOOKING BACK, is fit FOR the kingdom of God.

Jude 1:23 KJV
And others save with FEAR, pulling them out of the FIRE; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

Romans 8:13 KJV
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall DIE: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall LIVE.

1 Peter 4:18 KJV
And if THE RIGHTEOUS SCARCELY be saved, WHERE shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

Luke 13:24 KJV
Strive to ENTER IN at the strait gate: FOR MANY, I say unto you, WILL SEEK to enter in, and SHALL NOT be able.

Matthew 11:12 KJV
And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth VIOLENCE and the VIOLENT take it BY FORCE.

Hebrews 12:17 KJV
For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found NO PLACE of REPENTANCE, though he sought it "carefully" WITH TEARS.

Hebrews 10:38-39 KJV
Now the just shall live by faith: BUT IF any man DRAW BACK, my soul shall have NO PLEASURE in him.

[39] But we are NOT of them who DRAW BACK unto PERDITION; but of them that believe ON the saving of the soul.

LASTLY:

John 6:66-67 KJV
From that time MANY of his disciples WENT AWAY, and walked NO MORE with Him.

[67] Then said Jesus unto the TWELVE, Will ye also GO AWAY?

We need to understand this properly so as not lead ourselves and others ASTRAY.

May Jesus Bless You.
Christianity EtcRe: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by davidinchrist(m): 5:50pm On May 13, 2020
jiggaz:
A Bible study by Prince Gabriel Okocha

Due to circumstances of life and lack of deep roots in a Christian’s convictions towards the Gospel, he may wake up one morning and say he no longer believes the Gospel. If such a thing ever happens, what would become his fate?

The above question (paraphrased) was one of the questions we recently received on one of our articles published on the popular Nigerian website, Nairaland. Here we will see together from the scriptures what will happen to people like that.

There are two things that can lead to someone coming up to say they no longer believe the Gospel. The first is the fact that they did not allow the Word take it’s form in them in the first place after they heard it.

They have learnt of the Gospel (through books, audio messages or someone teaching them) and are no longer ignorant of it. They may have even become a part of a local church, joined a department and even held a leadership position for some time.

However, because they have not made a conscious decision to accept or receive the things they have known concerning the Gospel on a personal level (for themselves), they cannot be said to be genuinely born again.


These are the first set of people to always stand up to say they no longer believe in the Gospel claiming that the Gospel is a lie or even say things more abominable about it to whomsoever they come across.

(1Jn 2:18) Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

(1Jn 2:19) They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

(1Jn 2:20) But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

Unknowingly to them and those around them, they have never really believed the Gospel in the first place even though they may have at a point changed their behaviours to imitate the lifestyle of those born again. All they had was a change of behaviours, not a change of heart. And so they have never really been God’s children in the first place.

Getting such people to be truly converted is always a near impossible task, seeing that they have known and understood almost everything about the Gospel and still choose not to accept it. An action Hebrews 10:26 calls wilful sin.

Please see WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO SIN WILFULLY IN HEBREWS 10:26 to learn more about this set of people.

The second set of people this can happen to are those who have genuinely accepted or received the Gospel with their whole heart but are yet to be rooted in Christ.

They are truly born again, having believed the Gospel with their whole heart and have received the person of the Holy Spirit within them.

However, due to lack of proper training of the Spirit and the renewal of the mind through the Word, they are likely to say they no longer believe the Gospel when persecution, sickness and other difficult life situations arise.


For these set of people, their claim to no longer believe the Gospel as a result of these external influences does not in any way separate them from God. They are still saved. This is because Salvation being a gift of God’s amazing grace, is not dependent on what a man does or fail to do after he is saved. It is completely God’s work from start to finish.

(Eph 2:cool For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
(Eph 2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.


Our duty towards such people is to find out what went wrong with their convictions (not with a judgemental attitude) and offer our help where necessary. This is where praying and demonstrating the love of God towards them must become our top priority.

A very powerful prayer we can pray for such people is the Pauline prayer found in Ephesians 1

(Eph 1:17) That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
(Eph 1:18) The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
(Eph 1:19) And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,
(Eph 1:20) Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,


As we give ourselves to prayer and the extending of God’s love (the Word) towards them, we will see them like the prodigal son, have a rethink and return back to the Faith. But should they choose to remain or go further in their claim, we by faith leave them in the loving arms of their Father whom we know is able and willing to keep anyone He has once saved till the end.

(Joh 10:28) And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
(Joh 10:29) My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.


We may not know how He does this but the Word says He will keep His own to the end so we trust Him.

(Jud 1:24) Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
(Jud 1:25) To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.


I hope this blesses you.
Glory to God!


https://www.feedmejesus.com/2019/03/christian-says-he-no-longer-believe-gospel.html?m=1
Hmm. Sorry, I'm not trying to argue but this post is dangerously misleading. I got attracted by the topic at first, but later things began to go wrong:

If this was true, why would the Father send Jesus as a sacrifice for sins in the first place.

We need to understand this properly so as not lead ourselves and others astray.

Please see some (if not ALL) of these, "IF" you don't mind:

Luke 8:13 KJV
They on the rock are they , which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have NO ROOT which for a while believe, and in time of temptation FALL AWAY.

1 Corinthians 10:12 KJV
Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he FALL.

Hebrews 6:6 KJV
If they shall FALL AWAY, to "renew" them again unto "repentance"; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Luke 9:62 KJV
And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to THE plough, and LOOKING BACK, is fit FOR the kingdom of God.

Jude 1:23 KJV
And others save with FEAR, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

Romans 8:13 KJV
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

1 Peter 4:18 KJV
And if THE RIGHTEOUS SCARCELY be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

Luke 13:24 KJV
Strive to enter in at the strait gate: FOR MANY, I say unto you, WILL SEEK to enter in, and shall NOT be able.

Matthew 11:12 KJV
And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth VIOLENCE and the violent take it BY FORCE.

Hebrews 12:17 KJV
For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of REPENTANCE, though he sought it carefully WITH TEARS.

Hebrews 10:38-39 KJV
Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man DRAW BACK, my soul shall have NO PLEASURE in him.

[39] But we are NOT of them who DRAW BACK unto PERDITION; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

John 15:6 KJV
If a man ABIDE NOT in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them INTO THE FIRE, and they are BURNED.

Matthew 7:19-20 KJV
Every TREE that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast INTO THE FIRE.

***While it's true that NO ONE can pluck the Believer away from God, yet WE OURSELVES can WALK AWAY or Stop Obeying/Abiding in Jesus. We must be balance to avoid darkness.***

Nevertheless, if you or anyone still disagrees, OK then.

I don't justify myself.

But I hope at least few people will see through.

Thanks...

May Jesus Bless You.

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