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BabaRamota1980:
Yoruba history is too complex for outsiders to grasp. This is because Yoruba is not just a ethnic race, it is also a spirituality; Yoruba is not just a language, it is also an emotion; Yoruba is not only a thought, it is also a philosophy; this Yoruba is not just a society, it is also a civilization. Under Yoruba are many aspects of sociology and humanities that are robustly comprehensive and contains within it the many secrets to ancient arts and cults. Yoruba is a curriculum of study on its own. It continues to reveal new dimensions previously unknown. It is self surviving and self sustainable. Calling us Jews is denigrating!

Chai see poem ooo lol. Yoruba don turn something lol.
Yet upon all this ur sweet and emotional write up about Yoruba, your lands remain among the most under developed in Nigeria, poorest states, you have the highest number of illiterates, highest numbers of ritualist and muderers..
Abeg discard this your poem, it is at best nonsense for a place and people that lack human development and basic amenities.

Moorish:
You also proved to be racist towards yorubas in your posts

Yes I attacked the Yorubas because they attacked Edos. That was what this thread is about.
But you and favor filled it with religious and black supremacy preachings, you could have opened a thread for that.
Now everybody has fled, no more postings and fighting. It was fun beating the Yorubas.

OlaoChi:
Benin empire not kingdom. Anioma was part of benin empire.. But the historic Benin kingdom doesn't even extend to cover all bini speaking areas. For example Utantan was not part of Benin kingdom since it has its own king - the Ogiemien

However Benin empire expanded past bini speaking areas but after the British destroyed the empire all its vassals gained independence since the land never belonged to Benin in the first place and now political authority does not have anything to do with Oba of benin
So Anioma is independent from Benin, even Esan is independent from Benin

Before you argue this (which I know your small mindedness would like to argue) think about Nigeria and Britain
Nigeria was under the British empire but gained independence.. Hence Nigeria doesn't answer to the British, nor does the land belong to the British

Commonwealth nations are independent of England but they still recognize the Queen as their monarch and overlord..
My point is that all those places u mentioned; Anioma, Esan are still traditionally part of Edo nation. If Nigeria breaks they will all peacefully and willingly band together to make one nation. Maybe we will have to conquer the Biafrans if they lay claim to Anioma but Anioma will stay part of Benin Empire.

BabaRamota1980:


I already knew your witchery will soon get hiccups and you must fall into my trap.

I am your Lord. Bow down and worship at my feet.


I read what you posted above. Im very familiar with the article. In fact this was thesis paper for phd and the content goes far deeper than what you posted.

Ado was a powerful kingdom, so much powerful that both Bini and Oyo feared it would compete and become a daring rival. To prevent that Ibadan from West, Bini from East, they would periodically raid Ado.

Ibadan used enslavement to punish Ado, wehereas Bini used population displacement to lessen Ado's influence in the region. The Ewi never feared either adversaries. The people fought their attackers always.

Ibadan defeated Ado and Bini defeated Ado.

Like I said earlier, Ijebu fought Egba, Ibadan fought Ekiti, Ilorin fought Oyo.

These are all brothers within same Yoruba Commonwealth and with single progenitor, Oduduwa.

If a different race commissioned war against them...like Fulani or Igala or Ibo....then you can talk about defeat.

These are internecine wars between sons of same root. No big deal.

In fact Ewi never capitulated his domain....it had to be taken by force.

Same with Ekiti.

You cannot say that of Ogedengbe waging war against Bini.

Do you recall what happened when Seriki Ogedengbe was preparing a raid of Bini Kingdom?

If you recall i dont need to say it...but if you dont I will put it here for your eyes to see. There is a trend!

Are u sure you are not taking too many codeine? U always sound drunk and high. Jubilating over your foolish assumption.
See as you beautify Edo conquests of Eastern Yoruba as brothers fighting.
However your small brain that is filled with dust and smoke failed to realize that the author of the document clearly differentiates Benin/Edo from Yoruba as 2 different tribes, not related in anyway.
I have more posts for u to beautify too.
Next I will post the executions of your rulers, you can as well say it’s big brother beheading junior brothers lol.

prolog2:
Because the name of the people of the Benin empire is Edo.

Thank you bro.
Why do Oyo people call themselves Yoruba instead of Oyo?

Favor99:
Ok that’s cool. Yea I remember that story about how Yakub created the white race. I live in Chicago.
D.C and Maryland are nice places. I’ve been there.
You been to America before?

Favor, you and ur brother moorish have derailed this thread. It was strictly just for Edos putting the Yorubas in check, telling them their place in history.
Now u guys have filled it with ur religious and black supremacy or racist preaching. You removed the fun of subduing the Yorubas.

Obalufon:
what part of Ekiti did you people decapitated their king ..i need the names of the kings and noted you've once mentioned that you beheaded olowo before so benin behead their own son..that's strange

[b]"Overview of 19th Century Wars and Turbulence on Ado-Ekiti:

No part of Ekiti was spared the agony of imperialist invasions…The rampaging Benin armies sacked Ogotun, Aramoko, some subordinate communities of Ijero, Ado communities such as Are, Afao, Ugbo (now Ilu) Omoba and Agbado and settled a large percentage of the haul of captives therefrom in Ikere, their garrison post.


Benin armies constantly waged wars of external aggressions on Ekitiland and other communities in different parts of old Ondo State in their quest for territorial expansion and control, among others. A good reference point is the Ado-Ikere relations that resulted to Benin pillage and attacks on Ado-Ekiti on several occasion. Olomola (1984:2-3) noted that Benin armies invaded parts of Ado kingdom a few times between 1500 and 1815.. Olomola further asserted that the Ewi actually devise a strategy of evacuating his capital city so that the Benin armies would not disturb the Ewi and the rest of his people in their new site.
Odo which was, before the Benin invasion a town of considerable size, broke up as the people sought the safety of rocky and forest recesses and Uyin and Igede lost part of their population in their fight against Benin in 1815.

The development of the Ado Kingdom was seriously affected by external invasion. These resulted in series of demographic upheavals with settlements constantly moved from one site to another. The most serious of these external invasions were by the "Edo" of Benin. They attacked and destroyed many settlements…in the Ado Kingdom… The Edos were invited by Ogoga, the third time the Edos were so invited to settle the quarrel between Ado and Ikere. The line of action they resolved to adopt was to bring all the villages under the ewi to Ikere, settle them there and in this way Ikere would be equal or even bigger than Ado. Ado would then be afraid of Ikere. The Benin soldiers came and sent words to the Ewi Aroloye… He refused to surrender. He did not in any way show that he was not ready for fight. Every town or village under him except Ijan were prepared to fight…


Every town or village under him (Ewi) except Ijan were prepared to fight… The Benin soldiers stormed Igbara-Odo and Ilawe and took them. At this time, Ado town had been vacated. Aroloye took the people to a place called Oke Oko Axis between Ifaki and Iworoko. Most of the gods Ado worshipped on that side: Olua at Eyio, Obanifon at Esure and Are, Ogbese and Orisala at Iworoko. The soldiers pitched their camps near Uyin (Iyin)…Ogbesi Okun, the then Oluyin …was conquered and killed. They proceeded to Igede, Awo and Esure and took them. The inhabitants of Igede then uder Okiribiti were driven in a north-easternly direction to a place called Oke Asha…Edo troops then marched to Iworoko…The soldiers entered Are…The same fate befell Afao. They were all taken to Ikere. The soldiers moved to Igbemo …entered Igbo-Omoba (now Ilu-Omoba)…The soldiers left Aisegba for Agbado and without delay took it and evacuated the people. Agbado was the last place under the Ewi. With the conquest, of Agbado, the soldiers seemed to have finished their job…’

Ewi Idagunmodo (1696-1710), Ewi Okinbaloye Aritawekun (1710-1722), Ewi Amono Ola (1722-1762), Ewi Afunbiowo (1762-1781), Ewi Akulojuorun (1781-1808), Ewi Aroloye (1808-1836) who reigned at Ado but were attacked successively by Benin hordes…‘During the reign of Ewi Aroloye, Ado-Ewi’s kingdom witnessed massive dislocation across the terrain as town dwellers and villagers ran for safety in different directions. Many of the captives from Iworoko, Are, Afao, Ugboomoba (now Ilumoba) and Agbado were taken to Ukere by Benin invaders’."[/b]


So my dear Obalufon (descendant of Ekhalederan a.k.a Oduduwa) you can see from the above post how the Edos subjugated your adopted Yorubas.. We owned the Yorubas.. They were our subjects.. It is because we are a spiritual and traditional people that we spared Ife.. We would have burnt it to the ground too..

Obalufon:
Doubt your claim

just starting..

Obalufon:
which of the ruler edo behead ..what is the connection between OWO and Benin?...

Between 1705 to 1850; Benin beheaded a Deji of Akure, about 7 ewis of Ekiti land, 2 Oluyins and some Obas. Your princes were taken hostage to Benin palace and it became a tradition for your princes to live in Benin palace for a while before ascending their throne.
Owo was a vassal state to Benin. A son of Oba of Benin was olowo of Owo, another ruled idoani..

[quote author=jmoore post=69580987][/quote]Africans should not be deceived into praising the same people who started the slave trade as heroes who ended it.
Slavery was ended due to the rise of machines. If machines had not been invented they would still be selling Africans as slaves.

GodIsBiafran:
Why is this one shinning teeth? BabaRomota or what is your name? Mind your business. Stop following me all over NL. If you think we will keep kwayet while you and your Bini cousins try to annex Igbo heritage in Anioma and Igbanke then think again. Because HELL WILL FREEZE over before we allow that to happen.

Please mr biafran don’t ever group Yoruba and Bini as one. We are not the same. It’s like me saying igbos and Fulanis are cousins.
As for Anioma and Igbanke, they are part of the Edo nation.
Anybody that says they choose Biafra we will allow them enter canoe and sail across the river Niger to join them there.

Obalufon:
we ruled your ancestors with IDA oranmiyan useless man. Curved sword carry by your Omo ADA as a deterrent to people like you...

Useless man all this your fake made up stories doesn’t change any historically acknowledged facts.
My forefathers conquered and ruled your forefathers for hundreds of years.. beheading your rulers who dared stand up to us, colonizing your lands.
We were mighty and you were weak.
That is the fact.. ur lies can’t change history.. your future generations will read about it and probably be like you, argue and suffer from denial.

Obalufon:
Do you know what the ADA stand for? How could a king rule his people with sword if they are not slaves laughing. (IDA/ADA) OmoAda sword boy is a Yoruba slaves?

Yes ooo. The Omoada used to be Yoruba slaves.. I don’t know if the present ones are Yoruba but they are no longer classified as slaves.

banku:
Look, I have struggled through some of your posts, your worst are personal insults people without logical reasoning resort to.

You may have to do better to get my attention.
Obviously, you have limited vocabulary to express yourself.

See this goat oo. What do I want your attention for? Please get a grip of yourself. I only reply u because of your idiotic posts about Edos and I will reply u again whenever you make any foolish posts about Edos. Don’t deceive yourself again that I want your attention, it’s the other way around. You the one seeking attention by making posts about us.
As for your unlimited vocabulary how did it help you? Vocabulary put food on ur table, or it increased your finances?
Go sleep this foolish Yoruba man, descendant of our conquered and subjugated tribe.

Obalufon:
we ruled your ancestors with IDA oranmiyan useless man. Curved sword carry by your Omo ADA as a deterrent to people like you...

The Ada was in existence long before the time of Oranmiyan the son of Ekhaladeran who is the son of Ogiso Owodo.. well you wouldn’t know that because you are not Edo. I can’t argue Yoruba symbols or objects with you because I’m not Yoruba.

banku:
Watch out for some of Ogiamen sons that were conquered by Oranmiyan centuries ago still resisting Yoruba domination of their ruling house.

They now want to use Urhobo and Esan as their mercenaries against Yoruba. The same Ogiso they deserted to form their own land because of brutality and imprisonment with a wall to prevent them from escaping.

No it won't work. Professor Peter Ekeh, an Urhobo detailed your cruelty until Oranmiyan saved you from Ogiso.

When Ogiso sent his soldiers to go and bring back Ekhaleran from Ughoton, they deserted rather than commit suicide in the hands of formidable Ughoton soldiers protecting Ekhaleran.

You wan hia wod, we go dash you plenty.




Look, this Edo, Edo nobody knows among reputable historians, takes a back seat to others outside South West where the most recognized civilization in Africa is Yoruba; taught in every reputable university worldwide.

Outside South West, Try Hausa states, Igbo Ukwu, Ashanti, Sudan etc. Edo will never register except among usurpers standing on Yoruba shoulders.

Your fake made up stories and frustration amuse me a lot. Don’t worry, my next post will break ur heart. Ask Babaramota I dealt with him before he ran here. I will deal with u too.

Obalufon:
Die in your delusion Uroboh and Isan general.. Jesus you guys are brain dead

On the contrary, you are the one that will die in your denial. A simple research you cannot do, you are here ranting out of pain and fear of the obvious.
Edo people led by our great Oba conquered and ruled your ancestors.

GodIsBiafran:
Please your propaganda use to work back in the days when people were not exposed. If you like write these lies a million times over...that does not make it true.

The Dein of Agbor Kingdom, His Royal Majesty Dr. Benjamin Ikenchukwu Keagborekuzi I, has enjoined his subjects to stop promoting Igbo culture, describing the Agbor culture as ‘unique and peculiar’.

The Dein gave the admonition at his palace recently while giving his royal blessings to the new Iregwa of Ogbemudien Community, Pa. Bogi Abagi. He called on the good people of Agbor Kingdom to join hands with him to effect the changes he desires to be in place. According to him, “I am back and happy to be in the midst of my subjects. This kind of gathering gives me joy because it is an opportunity for me to learn more from my people. There is room for change, therefore my wish and desire for my subjects is that they adopt and respect every change that is being made. Going through the history of Agbor Kingdom, one will thank the gods for wisdom. Thus, everyone will join hands with me to reposition things the way they ought to be in order to restore our lost glory”.

He called on all Agbor indigenes to preserve Agbor culture and stop promoting Igbo culture. His words, “stop giving our children Igbo names. The native names given to our children should be pronounced and written in Agbor language and not in Igbo or Ika language as Agbor has its own unique language. The Igbo red cap should also be dropped as it is not a native cap for Agbor Kingdom. Soon, I will start driving away my palace chiefs who are fond of coming to the palace, wearing in red caps. Agbor traditions should be respected and preserved for future generations. Parents and the elderly should teach our children and the youths the culture of Agbor”.

The Odion of Agbor Kingdom, Chief Julius Ochei who led the new Iregwa and the people of Ogbemudien to the Dein’s Palace for blessing, said the Iregwa title goes to the oldest man in Ogbemudien Community, stating that it is the turn of Pa. John Bogi Abagi who is 89 years and the oldest man. The Iregwa, according to Chief Ochie is the traditional head of Ogbemudein Community in Agbor Kingdom.

GodIsBiafran:
At least if you wanna lie...lie gently. The Anioma blood is 100 % Igbo. The fact that a few of them like to wear bini beads does not make Anioma a Bini domain. Your village headmaster (sorry oba) will continue to be ridicule until he stops interfering negatively in Igbo affairs. If he fails to yield we will make sure he regrets the day he ascended to the fetish pot (sorry 'throne'). Useless goats.

Please stop your lies. Ruler of Agbor already denounced Igbo, says Agbor is not Igbo. Igbanke has already denied anything Igbo about them and said they are loyal to the great Oba of Benin. Ika people 50% have joined Edo, the remaining 50% is loading.
We are waiting for isseluku and Asaba to follow suit.
Soon you will be crying when all Anioma bows to the great King in Benin.

GodIsBiafran:
I am ready for all of you today. Yoruba-Bini-Itshekiri propogandists. We will continue to expose your lies about Aniomas and Igbankes. We will continue to show you for what you really are - LAND GRABBERS AND THEIVES.

Igbankes don’t want you. Besides Igbankes are more Edo than Igbo. There’s nothing about Igbo in Igbanke.. their names are mostly Edo names, their language sound more Edo than Igbo.
Stop dreaming guy, stay in your Eastern part of the river Niger.

GodIsBiafran:
Sorry. Igbos are Republicans. No true Nwafor will EVER bow to a monkey in human skin. A fetish monkey for that matter! Tufiakwa!!

Guy leave that thing. You will bend the knee wether you like it or not.
As far as Anioma is concerned they are in the domain of Benin kingdom/Edo nation.
Majority of Anioma accept Edo more than Biafra. Original Edos or with Edo ancestry outnumber real igbos in Anioma

BabaRamota1980:
Why should i fabricate a war between Yoruba and Bini if there wasnt one? What pride are you talking about? Pride of fables and hoaxes?

Bini came out of Ife. Oyo came out of Ife. Ondo came out of Ife.

Oyo warred with Ondo, Egba warred with Ijebu.....but no history ever says Oyo defeated Yoruba, or Ondo defeated Yoruba, Ijebu defeated Yoruba or Egba defeated Yoruba. What sense will that make?


Your problem is you, descendants of Edo slaves are trying to do witchery and make Edo and Bini into one with Edo as a warrior force that fought against Yoruba and others.

Your witchery can pass for others....you can use the smokescreen to sell them your make believe but with me it remains a fantasy.

Bini and Yoruba are one. If Bini fought Owo....its not Bini fought Yoruba.

When Ekiti's Ogedengbe waged war on Bini we dont say Yoruba fought Bini. Never. Ekiti and Bini are brothers of same racial root and progenitor.


We are not related with Edo, we dont know you. We only came to your land to civilize and rule over you.

So if Edo waged war on Owo or Ekiti then this will correctly qualify as Edo fought Yoruba because you and us are different racial stock with different progenitors.


So bring evidence of where Edo fought Yoruba.

The Benin armies that laid waste to much of Eastern Yoruba, beheading your rulers were mostly made up of Esan and urhobo soldiers, brave warriors they are. And the army was led by Esan Generals.
One of the administrators appointed to administer a part of our conquered Yoruba town was Urhobo. Some Esan administrators were appointed too.

You are not Edo so can never understand who the Edo people are. But know this; Benin kingdom of the Edo people conquered and ruled over your ancestors for hundreds of years. It is all in the archives, go find out and you will see the painful truth.

Obalufon:
what you had was midnight raid on a peaceful villages

Lol. Thank God it’s all in archives, you can easily research and find it. I know u already did but u just suffering from denial.
Ever wondered why Benin is always referred to as Mighty Benin kingdom??
That is your next assignment I’m giving you. Go research.

GodIsBiafran:
Useless goat. A small village like bini is asking 4 war? Your population is not even up to a street in Onitsha. Who will fight the war for your village fetish headmaster who calls himself oba? Is it the useless products of Italian prostitution? Please don't make me laugh

Mr biafran, you are busy shouting Anioma, didn’t the Agbor ruler recently ban anything Igbo from his palace and denounced the Igbo culture as not part of Agbor? Didn’t the Igbankes say they can never be Igbo? Majority of Anioma have said they are not Igbo despite the similar language so why are you the minority still fighting a lost battle?
No part of delta state will ever be Biafra.

The great Oba you just insulted is your king wether you like it or not. Your fathers will bow to him.

BabaRamota1980:
Can you provide evidence or is this just another of yoir fable.

Here is evidence Igala defeated you and raided and took war booties from palace.

Give tangible evidence to prove you defeated Yoruba. We are tired of empty mouth abeg.

The difference between you and me is that while I can proudly boast that we defeated and conquered you Yorubas, you cannot do the same but rather run to Igala as defeating Benin in battle. Thank God you know that Yoruba was never a match for Benin.
As for your Igala they were a vassal state to Benin kingdom paying tributes till the 18th century, so how did they defeat Benin and end up a vassal?

BabaRamota1980:
We have always known their stories to be hoax and unbelievable. Even historians refuse to consider their fables for any worth other than waste of time.

Their cups are over filled, they transgressed beyond boundaries, now they must get their brains reset with facts that show they were nobody before, and even now they are still nobody.

A whiteman called olfert, who never in his lifetime stepped foot in Africa but wrote in journals how Bini have cathedrals like those of Vatican was partly to blame for Edo false sense of self worth. The man even went as far to say Edos wash their house walls and polish them till they glitter and be like mirrors.

Edos with their witchery soon started parading around as a great people.

...we are yet to see evidence of Edo greatness.

Look to the east of Yoruba lands there you will see our greatness. We conquered and ruled all over your fathers..

banku:
If it is only claiming and usurping other people's culture because they lack authentic one they can point to, we may create one for them.

But these people base their pride on cruelty. Beheading pregnant women, midnight marauding of peaceful people while looking for loot and severe oppression at home by building walls so that people could not flee.

It did not prevent Urhobo from fleeing, it did not prevent Ekhaleran from fleeing to Ughoton to become their Oba which they mischievously called fleeing to Ife.

The people just had enough of these midnight marauders begging Ile- Ife to come to their rescue.

Even their conqueror Oranmiyan called it Ile-Ibinu.

How midnight raiders now pride themselves as conquerors is ridiculous.

Hey you, beheading pregnant women using them for rituals is a common practice among you yorubas. A practice you people continue to do forever, so please claim what’s urs don’t put it on us.
The only people we beaded are the Yorubas during the time we were conquering your lands. We even beheaded your Deji of Akure and many of your Ewis and Obas. Abi you don forget? I can start to remind you of all your rulers we beheaded.

Obalufon:
omo ADA(OMADA) is a slave right? holding ADA naked beside the oba You people are dunce

See ur foolish sense. The Omada is a slave. Can u see the rings on his legs? It’s a symbol of his enslavement. Edo person does not play that role. The Omada used to be Yorubas enslaved at the palace. Well you are not Edo so cannot know that.
However in this modern era, that practice has been done away with, the Omada is now referred to as being employed and released after a certain age..
but you yorubas in this modern era are still sacrificing your women and children for rituals. Shame...

BabaRamota1980:
I see, i touched some raw nerves ehhn? You are loosing your calm and getting frustrated? Pele!


Look at how Oranmiyan met your forefathers....stark nayked!!

It explains why he called you Ile Ibinu....because you were uncivilized.

We taught you how to wear clothes.

Let me ask my curator to pull the record from archive and send to me. I will show you how we civilized your forest roaming, fruit gathering ancestors.

The unclad people there are the Yoruba slaves serving at the Palace..

ghostfacekillar:
i knw BabaRamota and I am not BabaRamota.

You are a Yoruba man, stop pretending to be Igbo..

ghostfacekillar:
u are the hater here. That's how you go around claiming everything claimable. Re writing history. U claimed Lagos. Unclaimed akoko edo even though there are lots of evidence that shows that they are yoruba people..that's hw u go around claiming and claiming till one day u claim a curse that will end up. Swallowing ur tiny bini kingdom...

Another Yoruba man pretending to be Igbo lol. Are u sure u not babaramota??

ghostfacekillar:
please which is part of yoruba did u peeps conquered. The Yorubas also bested u and built shrines for ogun and sango using ur heads..even the ijaw in edo state bested u peeps and took over gelegele.

Now I know u are just a hater and jealous person. I don’t even think you are Igbo sef.
No need trading words with an ignorant (probably Yoruba) person.