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ariesbull:See this idiot. Just as you are celebrating your biafran invasion of Midwest are you also mourning the massacres of your invading soldiers by local civilian resistance that arise? Local indigenes began to rebel against the biafran soldiers killing many of them so by the time Nigerian army arrived Benin City most biafran soldiers were dead and the rest fled. Fools. |
Onijagidijagan:Yet Nupe invaded Oyo (yoruba lands) deposed and chased out your monarchy ruled Yoruba for almost 100yrs.. and later came Fulanis who is still ruling yorubas till today |
soberdrunk:Really?? Only you buy microwave, gas cooker fridge and drive her about.. guy she really lock you somewhere |
[quote author=macof post=66770211] The first european contact to west africa was in the 15th century by the Portuguese, not 14th century and for half a century or so, they never ventured off the coast to inland west africa, they simply set up trading ports along the coastline. so how would the europeans have recorded bini history?Everyone knows the first Europeans to contact West Africa was Portuguese. They set up posts along the coastline because they were not allowed to venture inland by the Authority in power at that time. And that Authority was the Oba of Benin/Benin kingdom. Because as far as I know the europeans who visited Bini never recorded Bini's history, they simply took short notes of observations, much of which like of every other african kingdom or region was limited and distorted. Europeans did not know enough about african geopgraphy and politics, not until the late 19th century when they were ready for 'a place in the sun' as historians call it. So europeans are not an authority on bini or west african historyShorts notes was taken of other tribes which had no important activities and anything worth writing about. Extensive notes and documentations was done on the Benin Kingdom in early 15th century. News of Benin Kingdom was printed on European Newspapers and stories of its might and glory spread through Europe at that time long ago. Also, 14th century(which is infact wrong, as i have stated above) is just a 600-700 years not 1000years ago. do not be dubious600yrs, 700yrs, 1000yrs.. they all same time periods, no difference bro Benin was no doubt among the earliest to make contact, but that's due to coastal activities in trade with Kumasi, it ends there. it is not due to Bini being so wonderful or strong or the best thing in africa..just one thing: Benin had coastal activities(championed mainly by the Itsekiris, it was the Itsekiris that directed the Europeans to Bini), the europeans had coastal activities, and they met along the line of the coast and europeans, being in the so called 'age of discovery' wanted to 'discover' hence the first european to visit Bini was Joao Afonso d'Aveiros during the reign of Oba Ozolua(oba Esigie's father), who happened to gather from the Oba of Bini himself that the Oghene (Ooni of Ife) was the source of the Oba's authority...if you want proof just askItsekiris did not direct Europeans to Bini, they directed the Europeans to the Authority in power, the Authority which ruled and controlled all that vast areas of West Africa, The Oba of Benin. Its like directing foreigners to Abuja to meet the president. For your information Benin Kingdom was made of all Edo tribes (Binis, Esan, Afemai, Urhobos, Ijaws and Isokos) and they all lived together peacefully in Benin City the capital and also spread all over other cities making up the Kingdom. like i said, 15th century not 14th century.Yes planned streets and oil lamps are general, and every city had it.. But Benin was the first to develop such concept. The first city in West Africa was Benin City. They were the first to organize as a planned society and build a city. europeans are not an authority on west african history. how does bini beat mali in development? like i said before, it was because of Mali the europeans even came in search of West africa. The arabs told them of the great gold and power Mali possessedThe Europeans did not explore West Africa because of Mali. They wanted to explore and chart the unknown African continent. If they wanted to go to Mali they knew where it was since the Arabs already told them. They were exploring the unknown and was surprised to find an advanced civilization already existing in West Africa, The Benin Kingdom. lmao. Mr. man do not be deceived, the europeans never thought of Bini as significant partners. of all the books on european history i have worked with, i have not seen one page dedicated to Portuguese- Bini relations. This was very insignificant to Europeans, they just wanted to explore and exploit not build an international alliance with a west african kingdom. It is shameful that you will see pride in a one sided relationship with a people who never considered themselves in a relationship with you.. imagine you have a wife who doesn't see you as her husbandYou are really filled with jealousy.. The Europeans established diplomatic relations and significant partnership with the Benin Kingdom and they were happy about it because it benefited them in trade. There was already a Benin embassy in Europe as at 16th century and diplomats were already being exchanged by both kingdoms. Every kingdom always have a self serving interests in any relationship with other nations even till today. Its part of human nature.. be wise!! Relationship among fellow african nations that had more relations with more nations was very significant. like i gave an earlier example, the Oyo empire was in alliance with the Songhai and even had significant contact with Mali, with a trade route established through the Niger river (i believe the Alaafin of Oyo once claimed Sango studied in Timbaktu, but well that's for another discussion)Benin Kingdom had significant relations with other African kingdoms, that is normal and not to be disputed. They ruled over many West African tribes. We talking about over the seas relations. Also when did mythical Oyo empire encounter Mali or Songhai empire. according to oral history Mythical Oyo was founded in the 1600s, Mali and Songhai was no longer existing and Timbuktu university was destroyed in 1500s after the fall of Mali Empire. so where did your fairy tale sango study? Besides why compare an Alafin that you say studied in West Africa to an Oba of Benin that studied in Europe? the entire area Bini conquered is just as the size of modern day Oyo state, it was in theory a small empire, due to the fact that Bini people themselves are so low in numbers and have a small landmassHow can you say the entire area Benin conquered (Western shores of Igbo lands, through Yoruba lands pass Togo and Dahomey up to Ghana) is just the size of Oyo state? Are you that blinded with hate and jealousy to deny the truth? This truth is not oral or fantasy, it was witnessed and documented. Please read the copied post below. Copied from document that was recorded in the early 19th century. "By c. 1800 the kingdom consisted of the area approximating more or less to the eastern half of the Mono-Niger region east of a line drawn northsouth from Otun in Ekiti to the coast. The area embraced the eastern Yoruba states of Ekiti, Ondo and Qwo , the western Igbo communities west of the Niger delta; the Urhobo, Itsekiri and the Ijo in the south. Although the Edo of Benin City and the metropolitan area constituted the core of the kingdom, the other Edo-speaking peoples such as the Esan and the northern Edo in the north-east and the Urhobo and Isoko to the southeast may be considered the immediate outer ring of the area of jurisdiction of the Bini monarch. Further afield, Benin influence, if not suzerainty, was acknowledged all along the Atlantic coast as far west as Lagos and beyond. As with the Itsekiri, there was a widely acknowledged dynastic relationship between Benin and the ruling elites in most Awori-Yoruba and related Anago chiefdoms where (as in Ekiti, Owo and Ondo ) there is still visible evidence of the Benin impact on titles and court ceremonials.31 Benin is usually portrayed as having been in continuous decline in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. However, while recent research has shown that this decline was far from being continuous and was often punctuated by periods of revival and territorial expansion The Benin kingdom underwent radical contraction because of a three-sided assault on its territory. The Fulbe djihad, which had knocked Old Oyo off its feet and decimated it, also penetrated the northern and northeastern part of the Benin kingdom. While the Fulbe, based in Nupe , forced such northern Edo groups as the Esan and Ivbiosakon to pay tribute to the emir of Bida and to be accessible for Islamic proselytization, the Djama'a from llorín raided into the northern Ekiti and Yoruba states under Benin Kingdom. The djiadist's expansion was finally defeated and stopped by the Benin army from moving further deep into the Niger delta region." Ashanti, Ijebu, Dahomey were still existing states that the Europeans faced in the late 19th century and Arochukwu was only defeated in 1902 while Sokoto was only defeated in 1903All the above the mentioned were not kingdoms but rather small militant states controlled by powerful chieftains in those areas. Stop saying this nonsense, what do you mean by you know i don't know? what do you know?Bro all your posts shows that you do not know, but now that you have read my posts you will know. Be educated and blessed. ![]() and to that moronic brother of yours, who keeps mentioning me to get my attention.. I am not obsessed with Bini kingdom. I am passionate about history in general, and african history in particular, yoruba history even more so. and you cannot discuss yoruba history without Bini, because both groups had such deep relationship ( this is the importance of significant alliances)You are clearly obsessed and jealous of anything Benin. (you even refused to spell the name right). You cannot discussed any West African history with mention of Benin influence on them. If you even type West African Kingdoms in search engines the first to always pop up is Benin Kingdom and always filled with descriptions and accounts of its advancement and development from long ago and superiority over all other surrounding tribes. The relationship between Benin and Yoruba is that of conqueror (Benin) and the conquered (Yoruba) "Now you Know".. |
macof:Did you know that as early as 15th to 16th Benin City had almost 100, 000 inhabitants? and you call that a small city.I happen to have a great understandingThe first Europeans to visit West Africa was in 14th century. So I can call that about 1000yrs ago. and Benin Kingdom was among the earliest to make contact. na u sabi Did you know that until the late 19th century Benin Kingdom was the only and still existing West African Kingdom and was a major and powerful force the Europeans encountered? I know you don't know but now you know. Knowledge is power. |
macof:Mr man you lack understanding.. Documentation of Benin Empire written about 1000yrs ago was done by early European explorers at that time.. so it is right to say Benin Kingdom was the first West African Kingdom to be documented on paper.. Yes Benin City was already using street lamps almost 1000yrs ago and it was oil lamps.. No other African city or villages at that time had the ingenuity to come up with that idea. And for your information I am not comparing Benin to other historic or mythical African empires although Benin is regarded as being highly advanced and developed than those empires you mentioned. Thank you. |
geosegun:Liar ke? there is more sweet facts ooo.. - long before Africans were shipped as slaves to Europe and America Benin Kingdom indigenes were already travelling to Europe for Business and pleasure just as we do now. - First Christian King in Nigeria was the Oba of Benin - First Church in Nigeria was built in Benin City - Oba Esigie of Benin Kingdom was the first West African king to establish diplomatic relations with a European country. - Oba Esigie lived and studied in Portugal for many years before returning home to become king - Benin Kingdom was the only West African Empire whose Empire covered different people/tribes/languages and ruled over other kingdoms. - Benin kingdom stopped the islamization of the Niger Delta region by defeating the fulani jihadists. - Benin Kingdom is the only West African Kingdom to be documented and written about 1000yrs ago. (all other kingdoms have oral stories) - Benin Kingdom is the only Kingdom in Africa not defeated by other African kingdoms.. - Benin Kingdom was before and after all other kingdoms in West africa - Benin City was the first city in Africa to have street lights at night and this was over 600yrs ago.. (the people are too intelligent) Thank you for reading and stay blessed.. |
9jakool:Please can you also explain why there is no documents written hundreds of years ago describing Oyo empire. We only rely on oral tradition to know about mythical Oyo. There are documents written 500 yrs to 1000yrs ago describing Great Benin’s might and glory. Documents written by early explorers about Benin Empire. Why is there no documents written about Oyo? |
aljharem:Do you know what an empire really is?? An empire should cover “different” groups of people/nations/languages.. Oyo only ruled over fellow Yoruba people. PLEASE that is NOT an empire!! Great Benin ruled over Igbo, Yoruba, Igalas, all Edos, Togo, Dahomey, Ghana tribes. That is an EMPIRE!! |
I believe this research. Yoruba and Igbo are same people... useless people. |
Is she pregnant? You should get her pregnant first before marriage.. ur mum will change mouth. |
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phollybee:He comes from the Yorubalands.. he is a Yoruba man. |
Guestlander:Thoughtless and hateful I don’t know, but cowardly never!! I am Edo.. |
This Oba is exhibiting typical Yoruba character.. sellouts and confused people. Nothing surprising here!! |
larimo:Ehi means Destiny in bini not God.. |
JackBaueress1:No he will change it to Enogie of Lagos |
macof:Sweet facts about Great Benin Kingdom/Edo people. -West African civilization started in Igodomigodo -Edo people were the first in Sub-Sahara region to build a city. -Benin City is the oldest city in Sub Sahara Africa. -Benin kingdom is the first Kingdom in West African region and it was also the last kingdom to fall to the British. It was the longest surviving kingdom. -At its height the kingdom covered the eastern shores of River Niger (Onitsha), through great parts of Yoruba lands up to Ghana. -Ga tribe in Ghana traces its origins to Benin kingdom. -some tribes in Togo also come from Benin kingdom. Togolese leader Eyadema publicly declared that his ancestors are from Edo. -Edo people are the first to speak a European language ( we were speaking Portuguese before the British came, language of communication btw Benin and British was in Portuguese).. -Benin Kingdom was sending ambassadors to Portugal long before British came to west Africa. -Benin kingdom was the most developed and advanced kingdom in Africa. At a time when rest of Africa was called primitive our cities was in the same class as European cities. -Militarily Benin kingdom was the strongest kingdom in Africa. It was the only kingdom not defeated by fellow African kingdoms. All opposition were crushed. -British soldiers confessed that Benin would have won the war if it had same type of weapons the British had. Benin military was very organized and disciplined. |
macof:Shut up.. you don’t know Edo or Bini history. You don’t even know Yoruba history.. if u did you will know Yoruba was conquered by Benin kingdom, the Nupes, Fulanis and finally by the British. |
macof:Mr. Man don’t be blinded by your jealousy or twist truth becos of jealousy. Benin City was founded 400BC, and Benin kingdom is always described as being the most highly developed/advanced and organized kingdom in Weet Africa. At its height of glory it extended up to Ghana. The road from Benin to Ghana goes through Yoruba lands which was conquered and paying tribute to Benin kingdom till Oyo Empire rose and started claiming parts of Yoruba lands from Benin due to civil crisis in the kingdom. Around 15th century Oyo tried to conquer Benin kingdom but failed woefully and was crushed in battle. All these are facts. Go research and find out. |
AxxeMan:Don’t mind him. They are too ashamed to accept they are a conquered tribe. Conquered by Benin kingdom. |
macof:I just said 70% of present day yorubas are slave descendants. Yorubas I know are actually educated. You are not original Yoruba, probably the 70%.. Benin City is the oldest City in Sub-Sahara region, founded 400bc. Oba Ewuare expanded the kingdom and made it greater and stronger conquering Yoruba and reaching as far as Dahomey. Please idiot go do your research again. |
Olu317:The only people with hatred for the truth is Yorubas. You guys can’t accept the truth that Great Benin conquered and ruled Yoruba. And accept the truth that 70% of present yorubas are offspring of former slaves dumped in Lagos by the British at the end of slave trade. |
macof:Jealous idiot go and find out how old Benin City is before u start spitting rubbish. |
macof:Are u from Kush, Mali or Wagadu? Foolish unknown idiot. |
GodIsBiafran:Onitsha used to be Benin territory. Abi u no know? Many places in Igbo land whenever they are doing ceremony before they break kola or pray they will first ask if a Benin man is around to come break the kola or say opening prayer. This is because Benin once conquered and ruled parts of Biafra. |
GodIsBiafran:Hahaha.. You make me laugh. Black Africans came out of the Edo people. Benin kingdom is the first African kingdom, it is the oldest and also the last African kingdom. Benin kingdom existed before Christ. Earliest civilization in West Africa was Edo people. We were first to form a civilized society. |
80% of Yoruba people are returnee slaves that couldn’t find the real villages or homelands so the British just dumped them in Lagos area and made them loyal servants to the British. Igbo people, I’m still searching for una history I no fit find anything. Who una be?? |
GodIsBiafran:My guy abeg no vex. I just Dey wonder who Igbo people be and where dem come from. Tell us una history. Only the great Benin kingdom and all Edo people get true history. |
Original Africans are the Edos, Urhobo, Ijaws, Ibibio, Efik... Yoruba, Igbo and Hausa/Fulanis please who are you people, where una come from?? you guys have no history!! |
fratermathy:Really??!! ��� So u ready to be enslaved by the Yorubas.. abeg which tribe u be sef? I hope not Bini.. |
robosky02:Please that picture is not 1896! That dress style wasn’t done in Nigeria as at that time. Probably early 1900s |
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