₦airaland Forum

Investigative:
Read your comment again
I cants stoop low to your level of bigotry

A depraved AfghanEASTern terrorist who kills his own brothers in the Sad East Region talking about not stooping low to answer a simple question. Have you ever checked your dictionary for the meaning of stooping low before using it or you just caught it in the air? What can be lower than killing one's own blood just because of political differences?

Investigative:
You want me to stoop low to bigotry to address your stvpidity

You are just a confirmed victim of moronic plague. Stooping down low indeed when you actually obviously have no answer to give due to being actually guilty of the mess Nigeria is. AfghanEASTern pig!

SlyDev:
Who killed Akintola?

Please help me with answer

Captain Nwobosi

Investigative:
Op and stvpidity
tomorrow Nigeria will appoint Orji Kalu as a puppet but once he commit one blunder they will come to blame Igbo not minding igbo hate his lootocracy

You and idiocy are Siamese twins. Why can't you address the issue raised? Are you this daft and moronic that you can't answer a simple question but resort to abusive language characteristic of your people?
Tell us what Ironsi meant by those lines or remain quiet.

Posers on Ironsi and abolition of federalism.

Those who contend that Ironsi's Decrees 34 didn't abolish the true federalism and resource control we started with at independence should in very simple language explain what exactly Ironsi meant with the bolded expressions in his May 24 1966 National Broadcast reproduced in part below:

Ironsi's Broadcast to the Nation banning
Political Parties and introducing Decree No. 34, 24 May 1966.
www.dawodu.com


Fellow Nigerians:
During the past two weeks I presided over meetings of the Supreme
Military council and the Central Executive Council at which many
important state matters were considered. . .
It is now three months since the Government of the Federal Republic
of Nigeria was handed over to the Armed Forces. Now that peace has
been restored in the troubled areas it is time that the Military
Government indicates clearly what it proposes to accomplish before
relinquishing power. The removal of one of the obstacles on the way
is provided for in the Constitution (Suspension and Modification)
Decree (No. 5) 1966 which was promulgated by me today and comes into
effect at once.
The provisions of the Decree are intended to remove the last
vestiges of the intense regionalism of the recent past, and to
produce that cohesion in the governmental structure which is so
necessary in achieving, and maintaining the paramount objective of
the National Military government, and indeed of every true Nigerian,
namely, national unity.
The highlights of this Decree are as follows:
The former regions are abolished, and Nigeria grouped into a number
of territorial areas called provinces. . . .
Nigeria ceases to be what has been described as a federation. It
now becomes simply the Republic of Nigeria.
The former Federal Military government and the Central Executive
Council become respectively the National Military Government and the
executive Council.
All the Military Governors are members of the
Executive Council.
A Military Governor is assigned to a group of provinces over which
and subject to the direction and control of the Head of the National
Military Government, he shall exercise executive power. In order to
avoid any major dislocation of the present administrative machinery,
the grouping of the provinces has been made to coincide with the
former regional boundaries. This is entirely a transitional measure
and must be understood as such. [The present grouping of the
provinces is without prejudice to the Constitutional and
Administrative arrangements to be embodied in the New Constitution in
accordance with the wishes of the people of Nigeria.
The National Military Government assumes the exercise of all
legislative powers throughout the Republic subject to such
delegations to Military Governors as are considered necessary for
purposes of efficient administration.
The public services of the former federation and regions become
unified into one national public service under a National Public
Service Commission. There is a provincial Service Commission for
each group of provinces to which is delegated functions in respect of
public officers below a given rank. This rather drastic change will
probably involve a reconstitution of the existing commissions, and
the National Military Government reserves the right to do so in the
manner stipulated in the Decree. Until this is done, the present
Commissioners continue to act in their posts. Every civil servant is
now called upon to see his function in any part of Nigeria in which
he is serving in the context of the whole country. The orientation
should now be towards national unity and progress. I expect all
civil servants to co-operate and to consult at all levels, vertically
and horizontally, between groups of Provinces and between Provinces
and the Centre.

Those who argue here that Ironsi didn't abolish the region and federalism should tell us in very simple language what exactly Ironsi meant with the bolded lines in his national broadcast of May 24 1966 as reproduced below in part:


Ironsi's Broadcast to the Nation banning
Political Parties and introducing Decree No. 34, 24 May 1966.



Fellow Nigerians:
During the past two weeks I presided over meetings of the Supreme
Military council and the Central Executive Council at which many
important state matters were considered. . .
It is now three months since the Government of the Federal Republic of Nigeria was handed over to the Armed Forces. Now that peace has been restored in the troubled areas it is time that the Military
Government indicates clearly what it proposes to accomplish before relinquishing power. The removal of one of the obstacles on the way is provided for in the Constitution (Suspension and Modification)
Decree (No. 5) 1966 which was promulgated by me today and comes into effect at once.
The provisions of the Decree are intended to remove the last
vestiges of the intense regionalism of the recent past, and to
produce that cohesion in the governmental structure which is so necessary in achieving, and maintaining the paramount objective of the National Military government, and indeed of every true Nigerian,
namely, national unity.
The highlights of this Decree are as follows:
The former regions are abolished, and Nigeria grouped into a number
of territorial areas called provinces. . . .
Nigeria ceases to be what has been described as a federation. It
now becomes simply the Republic of Nigeria.
The former Federal Military government and the Central Executive Council become respectively the National Military Government and the
executive Council.
All the Military Governors are members of the
Executive Council.
A Military Governor is assigned to a group of provinces over which and subject to the direction and control of the Head of the National Military Government, he shall exercise executive power. In order to
avoid any major dislocation of the present administrative machinery,
the grouping of the provinces has been made to coincide with the
former regional boundaries. This is entirely a transitional measure
and must be understood as such. [The present grouping of the
provinces is without prejudice to the Constitutional and
Administrative arrangements to be embodied in the New Constitution in
accordance with the wishes of the people of Nigeria.
The National Military Government assumes the exercise of all legislative powers throughout the Republic subject to such
delegations to Military Governors as are considered necessary for
purposes of efficient administration.
The public services of the former federation and regions become
unified into one national public service under a National Public Service Commission. There is a provincial Service Commission for each group of provinces to which is delegated functions in respect of
public officers below a given rank. This rather drastic change will
probably involve a reconstitution of the existing commissions, and
the National Military Government reserves the right to do so in the
manner stipulated in the Decree. Until this is done, the present
Commissioners continue to act in their posts. Every civil servant is now called upon to see his function in any part of Nigeria in which he is serving in the context of the whole country. The orientation
should now be towards national unity and progress. I expect all
civil servants to co-operate and to consult at all levels, vertically
and horizontally, between groups of Provinces and between Provinces
and the Centre.

Igboid:
"...a shadowy organization called the Anti-Midwest State Movement was put forward by the Action Group. It asserted that Edos had more to fear from Igbo than Yoruba domination, and that creation of a Midwest region would expose Edos to Igbo domination.". http://edo-nation.net/nowao1.htm


Ndiigbo in Midwest were well looked after by Zik and co.
Notice in the Willink commission report for Western region, while Edos were cheated in the scholarship slots, Midwest Igbos were not.
Osadebey who was Zik staunch man and an Igbo union leader from Asaba, ensured the Midwest Igbos were never cheated.

As an intellectual, you are expected to always wear your thinking cap and read between the lines whenever you are reading any piece of write up. The theme of the narration in the Omoigui speech you just referenced is that the anti-Midwest creation group were all natives of the proposed Midwest Region who were still loyal members of the Action Group. Didn't you see where the likes of Olu of Warri and other indegenes were mentioned as the spearheaders of the group? Did you see any Yoruba figure mentioned among them? The group's membership was 100% Midwestern in composition and not a pan-entire Western Region thing else it wouldn't have been termed shadowy. Don't you even think it is ironical that the Aniomas who were themselves initially opposed to the Midwest creation from its earliest proposal times out of fear of Edo domination would possibly later become feared as the source of domination in the new Region where the Edoid would be an overwhelming majority over them?
Note where your own referenced story reads:

inspite of his stature as the earliest and most consistently committed advocate of the Midwest cause, H. Omo-Osagie would later concede the leadership of the Midwest State Movement to Dennis Osadebay, also known as the �Gentleman Leader of the Opposition� in exchange for support.

The bolded part, taken in the context of all other mentioned reluctance of the Aniomas to identify with the Movement right from Adam, should have made it clear to you that the Aniomas weren't initially in support of the Midwest creation agitation as they were enjoying the influence of Dennis Osadebe's position in the intact Western Region. So how could they have carried that over into the new Midwest Region where the Edos/Edoids were most likely to dominate power on account of the fact that they initiated and nurtured the movement throughout in addition to having far superior demography over the Aniomas? As revealed above, Aniomas only came to identify with the project after an Edo son magnanimously conceded pioneer leadership to their son Dennis Osadebe, and in their characteristic treachery, they paid Edos/Edoids back with backstabbing later in 1967.
That aside, my contention in my penultimate comment is that the anti-Midwestern narrative which emanated from the larger Yoruba nation spoke of Bini domination and that was the real one that mattered more in those circumstances, not the one from the natives of the Midwest themselves.
Even Aniomas too hinged their initial resistance to the Midwest creation on fears of Edo/Edoid domination and a kind of revival of the Old Benin Kingdom. Read your own referenced article over again but this time slowly and thoroughly.

nku5:
The Western region fought tooth and nail to stop the Midwest from leaving but were very eager to support the exit of minorities from the Eastern region. If not that Awolowo was in detention, the referendum would never have happened.

And Zik was himself eager to see the minorities in the West and North separated from them while he held tight to the minorities in his own Eastern Region. Looking through the log covering his eyes to remove the spec in the eyes of others. Zik was a shameless hypocrite. No wonder Ojukwu hated him onto his grave and even Ipob recently dispersed a symposium in Igbo land because they heard Zik was to be given a posthumous award of honour through it.

Igboid:
Awolowo never supported the creation of Midwest!
Infact! Yorubas tried to stop Midwest referendum by telling Midwest minorities that the Igbos (Anioma) will dominate them in the new region with the help of their brothers in the Eastern region.
Stop talking nonsense.

Wrong! What Yorubas tried to use to discourage the relatively smaller Midwest tribes which Aniomas were e even part of was Benin domination.
Anioma domination was not even an issue. Go back and read the history of the Midwest Struggle all over again.

nku5:
Edwin Clark and his unfortunate generation have nothing to show for the Ijaw/Niger Delta alliance with the North since the First Republic.

It is the north that took 50% derivation down to 0% but it's Obasanjo that he can criticise. SMH

I never knew before Now that Azikiwe who went into the NPC-NCNC alliance in the First Republic was an Ijaw man. Thanks for this revelation.
You will make a lot of money if you look the way of fiction writing. Chai!

Clarke was a minister in several regimes from independence hence he has first hand knowledge of what he is talking about. He made it clear that it was under Obasanjo's military stint that derivation reduced to 0% and we all know Obasanjo to be a blind one-Nigerianist in the mould of Zik. What is it with you Igbos' love for Obasanjo and your attempt to always seek exoneration for him on his massive contribution to the Nigerian injustice and tragedy? I still don't get it.

nku5:
Gowon destroyed the 50% derivation. Do some research pls

This issue has been settled here. Who first ever tampered with the independence constitution that guaranteed that 50%? Definitely not Gowon.

Analyst7:
Baba nobody dy say saraki na Saint but surely he's damn better than the simp there rn, in as much as he's had his shortcoming Nigeria condition on some part would have ameliorate rn if he's there

Before I engage you on this your claim, I like you to first kindly answer the question below:

As Nigeria presently is, which between the following amendments to the constitution do you think is more urgently needed and is more directly relevant to addressing the social injustice and insecurity currently ravaging the country;

1. This current electoral bill on direct primaries and electronic transmission of results

2. A bill to weaken the center thus reducing the powers of the president through the return of most items from the exclusive list to the concurrent and residual lists where they initially were before the military came and concentrated nearly all powers at the center.

I am all ears in anticipation of your response.

jamesversion:
Heard about that joke severally it has become nauseating. You don't have any oil, stop trying to unnecessarily seek attention.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/06/oil-discovered-in-lagos/amp/


Note where the report reads:

The Ogo-1 well has been drilled to a total measured depth of 10,518 ft (10,402 ft true vertical depth sub sea), and has encountered a gross hydrocarbon section of 524 ft, with 216 ft of net stacked pay.

“The well was targeting 78 mmboe of gross P50 prospective resources, but based on evidence to date, targeted resources are likely to be significantly in excess of previous estimates,” Afren said in a statement made available to Vanguard.

I am not from Lagos and not even from the SW, so don't think I am taking this position because of any ethnic sentiments. It is all about truth which shall set us free. The earlier you deactivate your self delusion mode the better for you.

jamesversion:
This joke has been taken too far. Lagos does not have any oil. Not even palm oil.

Funny you never heard that crude oil has been discovered in Lagos since 2018.

babasolution:
The foolish nigerdelta have long been sacrificed on the alter of one Nigeria, Fulani's and kanuris,Yorubas are enjoying the benefits of oil wealth,while the nigerdelta people bear all the negative consequences of black soot and oil pollution.This is live human sacrifice.slow death

You cleverly left Igbo out of your mention of the tribes enjoying the oil proceeds at the detriment of the producing Niger Delta region. You think you are smart, right? Orijakor who is operating an oil exploration company called SEPLAT in Edo State is of which tribe?

[quote author=aviara post=108738006][/quote]Unfortunately you didn't address the issue raised by the monicker you responded to here.
You mean Saraki grew democracy by staging a legislatorial coup? How was Saraki's senate presidency beneficial to genuine national interest? It seems you have forgotten that it was under the Saraki Senate Presidency that the power devolution bill failed and that it was also under Saraki that for the first time the Senate shamelessly sponsored a bill seeking immunity for themselves. It was also under Saraki that there was an attempt to technically expunge the part of the Electoral Act which mandates counting and announcement of votes right at the pollen booths before being taken to the local INEC office.

bolaayenimo:
i trust Saraki as Senate President. Sharp override

The same Saraki under whose senate presidency the power devolution bill failed to be passed into law or another Saraki?
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/238857-senate-rejected-devolution-powers-states-saraki.html
What most of us Nigerian masses don't understand is that these people only begin to know what is genuinely good for the masses once they are no longer in position. Imagine Obasanjo now calling restructuring which he repeatedly thwarted efforts towards while in office, and now also calling for a reduction in the legislators jumbo allowances which he himself signed into law in 1999.
You will be shocked how the present Senate President, Ahmed Lawan, will excellently defend the inteest of the masses once he is out of office.

Advocate500:
you chose the one agree with and the one to disagree with, i have no issue with that, oil or no oil Clarke carefully mentioned the west marginalising the midwest as at the time. Maybe you need to read it the second time.

Read me well. I didn't say the West didn't marginalize the Midwest. Of course that was why we chose to exit it in the first instance. What I am saying is that the marginalization in question was not about oil. Read the story again and you would see where Clark only spoke of the marginalization in terms of assets sharing and never oil which was yet unknown in the Midwest then.
Then the other fact is that the East marginalized the Eastern Region minorities back then and that explains their quest for COR Region and the eventual Isaac Adaka Boro secession declaration.

Owologbo:
Some time, you can deceive yourself calling yourself as wise but in the real sense you are are epitome of pull them down children of hate.
Obadanjo made a law that anything beyond 6ft belong to the government, but your gold belong to you only.
don't you think that is inhuman?

I can see your anger. I am not from the SW. However, recall that the SW rejected Obasanjo's bid to become president in 1999 but was supported and voted massively for by the SS and SE now complaining of his anti-resource control antecedents. What were you people expecting when you were voting for a stooge of the North whom Northerners presented because of having a history of defending their interest at the expense of the South's?

christistruth01:
It was because Obasanjo hated Niger Delta that he Supported Goodluck Jonathan into Power when the Core North was adamantly against it and wanted Turai Yaradua Sworn in as Vice President so she could easily take her Husband President Yaradua's place after he fell ill

Can we extend this arguement of yours to also say that it was because IBB and the North loved the SW that they used cash and military influence to buldoze the better qualified Alex Ekweme an Igbo man out of the way in 1999 to enable Obasanjo clinch the PDP ticket in 1999 despite he, Obasanjo, fell far short of PDP NWC criteria?

Advocate500:
Thank God is coming from one of their elder ,so under Michael okpara ,the oil producing state was receiving 50% derivation? Under the one Nigeria they supported the killing of their neighbours because of the same oil they are made to enjoy only 13%.


But some people have been pushing a narrative that the igbos marginalised the oil producing state under the defunct old eastern region. So it's was actually the west that marginalised the midwest, we are learning, the truth will be made open one day and all this fairytales of igbos hating the people of niger delta will be led to rest with facts that will be glaring to all.

He pointed out that the derivative principle continued till the discovery of oil in commercial quantity at Oloibiri in 1956 which the then Prime Minister, Alhaji Tafawa Balewa, sent congratulatory message to the then Premier of the Eastern Region, Dr. Michael Okpara.

The sharing formula at the time was 50% of the revenue for the owning State, while 20% and 30% goes to the Federal government and distributable pool, for sharing among the regions, including the contributing region.

So after reading the bolded in Clarke's letter you concluded that the going of 50% to the producing area was done by Michael Okpara despite you read it clearly that Balewa was the one who congratulated Okpara for joining the club of those to be receiving 50% derivation?
Per your second line of arguement, there was not yet any discovery of crude oil in the Midwest while it was still part of the Old Western Region so the West didn't cheat the Midwest of crude oil revenue and Edwin Clark didn't so insinuate.
Most importantly you read where he made it clear that the Igbo coups of January 1966 destroyed the constitution by which this 50% derivation was being enjoyed.

All I see here is that the similar kind of excuses given for rejection of restructuring and state police, eg lack of funds, abuse of it, etc; are being given now for the rejection of direct primaries and funny enough some folks who don't welcome such excuses in the debate about restructuring seem to welcome them now in the face of direct primary which actually is an element of restructuring. Isn't it now clear that Nigerians don't really know what exactly they are asking for?

samdaisi:
They'll have to go on record eventually. Lol they can't hide behind voice votes this time.
My brother those guys are fighting for themselves most especially 2023 because they don't want governors to determine their faith in politics not that they have our love on their hearts,
Nigeria politicians are wicked and terrible

If direct primaries would not let the governors decide their fate in 2023 and beyond, it follows that the party members (the people) will decide their fate meaning they want their fate to now be decided by the people. So how exactly does that amount to them fighting for their selfish interest? I don't get it.

tunapawizzy:
the north is the beneficiary of everthing that is wrong with the structure of this country....until u got a southern president with balls...forget electoral bill, forget true federalism

Obasanjo with all his balls as president from the South didn't believe in restructuring in the first instance. He thwarted all efforts and rebuffed all calls for restructuring. Same with Jonathan another Southern president.

It is a pity that Nigerians who purport to hate godfatherism are applauding the president's refusal to endorse a law that naturally kills godfatherism.
It only shows that most Nigerians don't actually know what exactly they want.

Abujason:
Will you shut the hell up you freaking midget. Bokoharam and the bandits were started by you Northerners to frustrate GEJ and OBJ and you are one of their financiers. We know it. Stop lumping IPOB with them. You dunderheads pushed the IPOB into militancy by your discriminatory practices.

You mean as Minister of FCT in Obasanjo's administration he was financing Boko Haram to frustrate that very administration he was part of and Obasanjo couldn't do anything about it? You are indirectly confirming Andrew Owoye's revelation about the connection between PDP and the introduction of terrorism to Nigeria.

Prinxzona10:
White people can never use their fellow white men to commit evil buh black people have the same animal mentality and we will continue to suffer for it till we start reasoning.....People said that they're tired of been in the same country with you(becaus of injustice,nepotism,hatred,lost of interest,lost love towards the country),the next thing you suppose to do is to call them to a round table(dialogue) ,engage them buh if they determine and said nope,then you compel a stockholder's meeting of the former head of states,the governors,the high government officials and deliberate on it and engage them locally and after if they still insist on going,then you put forward a referendum on the table buh you see black people,they will rather die than to do something honourably...fighting your brother to preserve the benefit and interest of the white people. I will open the eyes and minds of many people even some of these lost souls here,will see reasons and repent. I will be starting from next year..the day Nigeria will be free,is the day Africa will also be free buh the question now is ,"WHEN"??

Unfortunately the Nigerian Government learned it's aversion to this suggestion of yours from how Ironsi as Hos handled Isaac Adaka Boro when he made same demand.
Again, Nnamdi Kanu's refusal to follow this method of yours in his wish to carry SS states along into Biafra morally justifies the FG's refusal to tow your line of suggestion.

greatness77:
azikiwe is a sabo and never one of us

False! While he did all that, you all cheered him up and bathed him in accolades of being a nationalist. No record exists of any Igbo man publicly disagreeing with him back then. If you Igbos regarded him as a saboteur those times, then why didn't you set sail a motion to recall him from the federal parliament in which he was doing all that rubbish in representative capacity of you people?

ariesbull:
stop dwelling in the past monkey was it an igbo man did the amalgermation of Northern ams Southern protectorate of Nigeria...

Is Lugard now an igbo man... Idioť

Mr. AfghanEASTern pig, why haven't you ever given this advice or order of yours to your past-dwelling Lamidi Cownu who regales people on false historical narratives? Which school did you attend where you never learned about the importance of history? Do you know that History is a university course which people pay heavily to study? The past shaped the present just as the present will shape the future.
Yes the Igbo man did not amalgamate Nigeria but he sabotaged all efforts made to de-amalgamate it when it was first realized that the amalgamation was a mistake, so the Igbo man therefore remains with that guilt of amalgamation. Even after Lord Lugard had exited the scene post independence, it was Igbos that again sabotaged all efforts to de-amalgamate Nigeria. You remember Ironsi and Isaac Adaka Boro?

enyi1:
Like i said, there's no honor amongst thieves. His hand is soaked with blood of innocent Nigerians which his administration killed. He needs to step aside so that someone with clean hands like Dave Umahi can heal the land and develop it rapidly. Why can't we rally round Dave Umahi? Is it because he is Igbo? Go to Ebonyi state and see what he is doing there with there meagre resources. Traveling is part of education and if you can't travel, then Google it. Let's rally round Dave Umahi for prosperity, development and fairness

It seems you are yet to realize that David Umahi is not loved right in his own home SE and the neighbouring SS region just because of his party. He is also not very popular in the SW. So how exactly will his candidacy sell? I am convinced he exhibits some pristine traits of an ideal leader but unfortunately Nigerians voting choices have no correlation with records else Obasanjo wouldn't have defeated Falae in 1999.

Gunayo:
lt seems you have memory failure. Atleast, Atiku stood up against obj in case you have forgotten. That is something. But which of the bad policies of buhari has Osinbanjo vehemently stood against even if it will cause him his seat? Tell me

Atiku only spoke up against Obasanjo's third term bid which we all knew was a threat to Atiku's own presidential ambition. Had Obasanjo never nursed a third term, Atiku wouldn't have ever risen against him. Why didn't Atiku speak up against numerous other wicked policies and actions of OBJ like the massacres of thousands in Odi and Zakibiam, the over ten times increase in petroleum products pump prices, the frustration of the civil societies's call for restructuring which Atiku now ironically campaigns with, the political assassinations of Funsho Williams, Harry Marshall, Dekibo, Bola Ige, and lot others numbering over 20, broad daylight rigging of the SW guber elections in 2003 which Atiku even described as free and fair, seizure of Lagos State allocation, disobedience of court orders, etc. Please just cite one instance where Atiku took Obasanjo up on any of these.

funsho75:
Nice write up... But you guys need to remove that sentiment of (Iboman) thing... Politics is a game of number, apart from Oshomole which other person from your region has been fully active in national politics
Despite the facts that i don't like timubu but he has been going around, meeting stake holders and getting support

Q1. How many people in remote are known David Umahi

Q2. Has he been active in the national politics of his party (i meen national not state)

My brother, police is a game parties give the person that have either financial muscle or peoples muscle or both

Even Oshiomhole is not from their region. Forget the recent insinuations that SE and SS share the same political aspirations. That is a big fat lie from the propaganda mill of Lamidi Cownu and his IPOBian ilk.